Pegasus Research Consortium

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/scott-morrison-says-anyone-who-goes-to-black-lives-matter-rallies-should-be-charged-after-melbourne-protester-tests-positive-to-coronavirus

So according to this story, there was a Black Lives Matter rally in Melbourne, Australia eight days ago.  Our Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, apparently said that anyone who attended the rally should be criminally charged, due to the fact that there have been new positive tests in the country for Corona virus.

That got me thinking.  The virus hits in January, then we have about four months of formal lockdowns more or less globally, with things starting to ease now slowly; but then we have the George Floyd shooting and international protests/riots immediately after that, with our Prime Minister using the virus as an excuse to charge and arrest anyone who attends.

Am I paranoid, or does this seem just a tiny bit too much like a set of coincidences?

You are being paranoid. :)

I believe in coincidences, but I don't think this is one, this is people using the pandemic as a tool to help their position.

More or less in the same way spam changed and we are now bombed by CoViD-19 related products.

Reddit has also apparently just banned 2,000 subreddits as well.

Lots of things happening at once.

Quote from: petrus4 on June 29, 2020, 02:19:09 PM

but then we have the George Floyd shooting and international protests/riots immediately after that, with our Prime Minister using the virus as an excuse to charge and arrest anyone who attends.

There was NO George Floyd shooting. He died of a heart attack. No evidence of strangulation.

Rock  8)

TAMPA (WFLA) — Florida health care company AdventHealth said it's possible that as many as 33,000 Florida patients who took COVID-19 tests may have been told incorrect results, or received no results at all.

AdventHealth said over the weekend that it terminated its contract with one of its third-party coronavirus testing labs because of the unreliable test results. Eight thousand of the 33,000 patients with unreliable test results were administered in AdventHealth's West Florida Division, which includes the Tampa Bay area.

It is possible there were patients who tested negative but were in fact positive, and patients who tested positive who were actually negative.

The players and side stories are probably endless, as with most other social and political phenomena.

I think this is a good start to racking & stacking the likely suspects in the Covid fiasco -

Trump haters / foes - wreck his great economy; keep it shut down until Nov;  blame him for fake failures while ignoring the crimes of Cuomo and others.

Fauci and other profiteers - Steer the Vax to their patents and cronies; make sure that they own the whole Covid franchise from start to finish.

BLM Antifa and other lunatics / anarchists - keep society in chaos and fascist over-reach to help them wreak havoc everywhere.

Deep state - get rid of Trump, get the people locked down and subservient, begging for govt protection / solutions.

Communists / NWO- destroy the economy and social compact / system; start over with their always-failed model.

You do know your stuff and I think that is an accurate summary of what is this cluster *#$% is all about.


Makes me disgusted to see people with masks on, that do absolutely nothing in protecting oneself from getting the bug.

Lol, the 'know my stuff' was only a gag with mangling all the musician names.  Trying to be the class clown with my intro.
Lots of people know lots more than me. Though I do like to try and stay true to logic and honesty and accuracy when I throw stuff out there.
I have lots of opinions, but try to keep them rooted in what we actually see and hear, not what I wish was true.

I think Trump was cornered into going along with Fauci because of his deep, deep ownership of all things virus- related.

Fauci screwed him over several ways, but Trump would have been worse off  throwing in with some random unknown person.  They would have torched him worse for that.

Just like Trumps original cabinet. Lots of traitors, plants, and double agents. Trump had no way of knowing, but he's cleaned it up with growing experience.

That and everyone has a blind spot. Trumps is his little princess Ivanka. She's hurt him more than helped, but what are you gonna do. At least she's not as bad as the Biden, Pelosi, Kerry spawn that are involved in real scams and frauds.

Quote from: micjer on July 01, 2020, 01:07:43 PM
You do know your stuff and I think that is an accurate summary of what is this cluster *#$% is all about.


Makes me disgusted to see people with masks on, that do absolutely nothing in protecting oneself from getting the bug.
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The point of the mask is try to slow down there transmission by non-symptomatic carriers.

This man is talking in 2014....LOCKSTEP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpB_GqAfro4&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR31gqlaNGB14mNHp2UQhgCXuhDPrJDRE28KIu8zkCrOSq64JmM06DIRlVk

This plandemic is all just part of an agenda  for total control with the internet of things, and You reader will become a thing.


Kevin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVjketUc3qA&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1YjRqvCoq-OXKZby3zpbFzm-EfiJXrxGglfzrpTGhSVkuuvNbOsQTPdwE

These rockernutters are totally insane, it's how all civilizations have perished when the super rich think they are gods.

Kevin

https://questioningcovid.com/

This looks like a well balanced site  exploring the real facts relative to the virus.


kevin

Quote from: kevin on July 06, 2020, 02:56:06 PM
https://questioningcovid.com/

This looks like a well balanced site  exploring the real facts relative to the virus.

I stopped reading at "bodily sovereignty".  :P

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 30, 2020, 04:32:45 PM

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/H3N2_Hong_Kong_Virus.jpg)

Those people were not cowards.  My generation, and the two after mine, are.

I've always been afraid.  Not of anything specific.  Just afraid.  Of everything.  Of death.  Of life.

There were two attempts to teach me to swim, as a child.  Both were unsuccessful, but I learned something from one of them.

During the first attempt, I was put in the shallow end of a rectangular swimming pool.  The instructor taught us how to drive our toes into the wall of the pool, and put our arms over the raised outer edge, in order to hold ourselves against the wall.  Then he had us walk around the entire wall of the pool like that.  At the time I hadn't learned any form of swimming, even with a kickboard, and I was less than 5 and a half feet tall, while the deepest part of the pool was 18 feet.  If I let go, I had no reason to believe that I wouldn't drown.

I didn't let go, and I made it around the entire pool; but that experience became the basis of my entire philosophy of life.  That was 32 years ago, and I've been doing the same thing ever since.  I hold to the outer edge as tightly as I can; because the interior is just a game of poison ball, and if they don't see or hear or know about you, then you won't get eaten, until old age comes for you anyway.  Life is absolutely nothing more than a resolution to stay sane and breathing for one more day at a time, until the day finally comes when for whatever reason, you can't.

I'm marginally less friged than Generation Z.  Marginally.  I can admit it.  I'm semi-literate.  I still know how to communicate in something other than Newspeak, smartphone slang, and memes.  I'm still nostalgic for a world in which people believed in God and truly gave half a shit about each other, instead of just hashtag virtue signalling and burning everything to the ground, because they've never seen what real empathy looks like.  I can remember a time when we weren't being slowly suffocated by profanity, totalitarianism, censorship, corporate amorality, and non-reproductive sex.  When people knew that there was a difference between objective truth and collective consensus.

The only reason why Z think that they're working towards a better world, is because they're not old enough to be able to remember what I can.  If they were, they'd realise that what they're actually doing is tearing that better world down, not building it.

It's an interesting situation. It's basically as though they were given the best deal ever by sheer luck, to enact the same scam as global warming, which they weren't able to get off the ground.

As long as they can keep all Democrats and quite a few GOP that hate Trump, all pulling together, they can keep the US in a lockdown and economic freefall. It's also a great scam for keeping Biden hidden, and probably out of debates altogether.

The riots and protests were just more luck piled on top of that. Perfect way to spread the COVID and boost the sick numbers. Not to mention their classic goals of anarchy, mayhem, and wrecking the law enforcement system.

But if a dem mysteriously wins in November, the day after the election they will all announce that it's time to get the economy and normal life going again.

They will also announce that the election ran perfectly if they win, and that it was all wrong if they lose, because of COVID, unrest, fear, no national mail-in ballots, etc etc etc.

They were also able to do the massive socialist money redistribution that they wanted to do in global warming. Especially to pay people to not work, almost a temporary basic universal income.

A huge stroke of luck for the aspiring socialists and communists. Just fell into their laps, and they're fighting like hell to keep it going.

Quote from: petrus4 on July 09, 2020, 01:46:00 AM
Those people were not cowards.  My generation, and the two after mine, are.

There's a difference between not being a coward and not caring/being ignorant.

QuoteI've always been afraid.  Not of anything specific.  Just afraid.  Of everything.  Of death.  Of life.

I was five years old when I learned that I could die at any moment from an asthma attack, so I stopped worrying too much about it. :)

 :-\  It looks to me that this virus deal,..... is just that, a deal between certain people in power to set-up a situation that allows them to implement the actions they want to enforce.  Money and control.......Make money and increase control.  Another thing is, its a great way to test the amount of control they have over the population using the media.

  Also it opens the door for forming a 1 world populace situation.   So I guess all we can do is hold on tight and hope for the best. Speak out when we get a chance and pray everything works out for the better!  ::) 

   Good luck to us all!!!!!!! 8)
   WhatTheHey

Here in Louisiana, Da Gobnor...decided that you can't sit in a bar and have a few drinks with your friends....instead......

It's ok to DRIVE to your local bar and get a TO-GO-CUP of alcohol and DRIVE home and enjoy it with friends that are 6 feet away at your house...

Do you think for one minute that someone is not going to take a few sips on the way home? And make sure you get several to enjoy in your home?... :o

UK to try to enforce Wearing Masks in Shops from July 24th

This was the next thing that I was dreading... Compulsary Mask Wearing when you go in shopping areas.
Not sure if this already applies in other Countries as yet.. ie other Euro countries or the  USA/ Canada / South Americas. ...

No doubt it will be awkward to try to enforce or a real pain for small shops who dont have security...
as well as a pain for security to have to deal with offenders..

then no doubt anyone seen without a mask on will be pointed out by the public who favor it...

One still wonders if this is really for the publics  best interest  .. or just another step to make us comply if they are doing this as some agenda to brainwash us further...

If the Virus is for real... then no doubt its now a main concern that we do not get a main 2nd wave... and many of the public may still wonder if the Govt has acted too soon in having made many recent changes that seem to sugest that  the threat seemed to have been contained or lowered in its severeity..

but its now a concern that people may now ignor many of the things that have led to the improvements...that could end up bringing the threats back...

Looking back no doubt many things that certain countries did were VERY poor to have aided or lowered the viruses potential threat.. and yet some Countries applied much safer / stricter rules that appeared to have reduced the threat considerably...

and as I have said before... I personally cannot understand WHY all Countries do not have a set standard procedure to apply to attempt to avoid the poor actions that led to increasing the threat like what the UK and USA had done...

It appears that they both were very poor and slow  at dealing with the threat in their applications.. such as taking more control of who they let into their country...and how long it took before they decided to control things to an accptable or valid positive effective application.

QuoteChair of Met Police Federation Says It Will be "Impossible" to Enforce Mandatory Face Masks in Shops

Quote

The Chair of the London Metropolitan Police Foundation says it will be "nigh-on impossible" to enforce a new law which makes the wearing of face masks mandatory in all shops in England from July 24.

People who refuse or forget to wear the masks face a possible £100 fine for non-compliance, but according to Ken Marsh, who represents police officers in the capital, imposing the new law is virtually inconceivable.

"We'll be driving round and round London looking for people who weren't wearing masks, it's absolutely absurd," said Marsh.

He pointed out that the burden would fall on shopkeepers to stop refusniks, although since they have no power to detain, individuals would just leave before police could arrive.

Peter Cowgill, chairman of UK clothing outlet JD Sports, said that store employees shouldn't be expected to try to enforce the law and that the outcome would just be less people shopping.

While health authorities have repeatedly insisted that wearing face masks helps stop the spread of COVID-19, the evidence is dubious at best.

The WHO only advocated face masks after political lobbying despite the science being unconvincing.

"The World Health Organization committee that reviewed the evidence for the use of face coverings in public didn't back them. But after political lobbying, the WHO now recommends them," reported BBC Newsnight.

Face masks were also widely used by Chinese people in Hubei province both before and during the original coronavirus outbreak, with seemingly little effect.

As Toby Young explains, forcing people to wear face masks in shops will only deter more people from going shopping, further damaging any chance of a proper economic recovery.

"One of the most depressing things about this Government's diktat is that it will mean people are even less likely to go shopping than they were when non-essential shops were allowed to re-open on July 4th," he writes.

"It's as if the Government is determined to destroy the high street. First, it insisted on the closure of non-essential shops; then it allowed them to re-open, but only on the proviso that they put ridiculous social distancing measures in place, such as limiting the number of people that can be inside at any one time and insisting that anyone entering use hand sanitiser; now they've decided to make the shopping experience even more unpleasant. It's the final blow, surely? Who will bother to go to a shop when they can get everything delivered to their front door?"

https://summit.news/2020/07/14/chair-of-met-police-federation-says-it-will-be-impossible-to-enforce-mandatory-face-masks-in-shops/



Looks like maybe Alex Jones could have been right that Trump may have challenged Bill Gates (If Gates is head of the WHO)

The US has officially notified the United Nations that America is leaving the World Health Organisation, and the process will be completed one year from now on July 6 2021.

QuoteThe US has officially notified the United Nations that America is leaving the World Health Organisation, and the process will be completed one year from now on July 6 2021.

https://summit.news/2020/07/08/us-officially-withdraws-from-world-health-organisation/

It seems that the UK Govt have been concerned about Huawei as they say they plan to ban using its services / equipment..

UK to ban new Huawei equipment due to security risks

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/uk-ban-huawei-equipment

astrO144,
The face mask garbage is all about fear based control, it is all leading to mandatory vaccinations to include technology.
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/busted-11-covid-assumptions-based-fear-not-fact?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Busted%3A%2011%20COVID%20Assumptions%20Based%20on%20Fear%20Not%20Fact%20%28WDsqgt%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

If it isn't obvious to everyone yet this is a plan demic created by technology, the virus garbage is false out of date thinkings.

Kevin

Unfortnately the last few weeks I have fell behind keeping up with other posts that may had been made in ref to Covid..
5G . Bill Gates Alex Jones theories etc and if I can later try to catch up on some of it..

I will try to read your link in more detail if I can later..if It seems to suggest relevant info to query COVID as a hoax.

If you and others who agree with you Kev are right in your opinions....in which I do still highly question the whole thing...

Then no doubt what do we expect to go on to happen from now on...is no doubt a severe concern...

In ref to the mask wearing and observing what various people are saying in the media etc... many are now seeming to becoming swayed to accept it....but there are some that still speak out about their concerns about it...but I think I get the impression many have submitted to accepting it as being real... or agreeing with those who suggest we use masks... as many other countries have appeared to had done so some time ago on a longer larger  scale..

I still have to question... should we not need to at least  see significant evidence the threat is coming back... before they suggest enforcemnt to have to wear masks..

it seems they may just be suggesting it  and people now more easily are swayed to accept it.. as they are burned out after the fear from the initial threat...

which could be genuine... or maybe if the Govt are hoaxing us... they now  know this would be the case from past experiences and human psychology..

The next thing is do they try to get us to wear them just for going out side.

but how many Authorities would they need to enforce fines...or how many people would they in prision if people ignored to pay them....

the expense would be huge.

But there are people now pointing out or making a fuss to people that dont wear masks..

and some have genuine medicals reasons why they do not wear them... who may be ill and DO NOT need people exposing them..... DO THEY HAVE to get Doctors Notes to prove their situation...

or wear something that explains their situation..to avoid confrontation...

Like anything in Life..

you always get people who will NOT say anything and some always will say something...

Its hard as both types of people can have valid points...

but Introverts may not like extroverts making a fuss...or challenging them...
in Extroverts may not like people staying silient...in what they may consider things that needs to be raised or discussed.
or exposed...

So many opinions on so many things in Life....we all have and differing levels to analyse or to TRY to make sense of things...

Then even the cleverest persosn in the World will have varied views...

Who do we trust if we feel that we are not sure about certain things ? to guide us...
Many suggest Govts.../ Scientists etc.. but many may also have concerns against them..

Its so time consuming / demanding even trying to consider such things at times..

QuoteIf it isn't obvious to everyone yet this is a plan demic created by technology, the virus garbage is false out of date thinkings.

Kevin

There is most definitely something shady going on and it's not good. I don't think it's going according to the plans of whomever set the gears in motion though, which means it's going to get kicked up a notch. Hence Coronavirus 2.0 MERS version I suspect we'll see in the near future. Has anyone found the Rockerfeller document for the Lock-Step plan?

Some further comments about wearing Masks or face coverings from PJ Watson.

QuoteThe same type of face masks that the UK government is mandating people wear in shops from July 24 onwards to protect against the spread of coronavirus specifically state on their packaging that they don't protect against coronavirus.

Genius.

Earlier this week, the government confirmed that anyone caught not wearing a mask when entering a shop or supermarket will be subject to a police fine of £100, prompting the Chair of the London Metropolitan Police Foundation to complain that this would be totally unenforcable.

However, the law states that cloth masks, scarves or other textile items that don't require the use of hands to hold them in place are acceptable forms of protection against COVID-19.

One problem with that, the packaging on these kind of cloth masks specifically states that they don't protect against COVID-19.

"This product is an ear loop mask. This product is not a respirator and will not provide any protection against COVID-19 (coronavirus) or any other viruses or contaminants," states the packaging on a standard set of cloth masks currently being sold.

Skeptics have also pointed out that people continually touching potentially infected masks and then touching surfaces could even exacerbate the spread of coronavirus.

"Apart from everything else, the only coverings the Government is insisting on are cloth ones, which every man and his dog knows are COMPLETELY USELESS," writes Toby Young.

"As Allison Pearson says in her excellent comment piece in today's Telegraph, "anything other than tight-fitting, surgical-grade masks are utterly pointless – like trying to stop a bullet with a chain-link fence". I mean, the evidence that the gold-standard N95 masks are effective in non-healthcare settings is threadbare at best – and they have to be disposed of after a single use."

"There is literally no evidence that re-usable cloth masks are effective in community settings. None. It's like wearing a tin foil hat in case you get struck by lightening – an ineffective way to protect yourself from an almost non-existent risk. What has become of us?"

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said mandating the wearing of masks would "give people more confidence to shop safely and enhance protections for those who work in shops," however many have reacted to the law by asserting that they will simply avoid shops altogether.

This will lead to yet more economic devastation, more high street job losses and in the longer term, more poverty and death.

Again, genius.

(https://cdn.summit.news/2020/07/150720mask.jpg)

https://summit.news/2020/07/15/face-masks-mandated-by-uk-government-specifically-say-they-dont-protect-against-covid-19/

I think that I may need something more like a light weight Astronauts or deep sea divers  or motor bike like helmet or see thru type of gas mask sphere type complete head cover  that has some sort of filter or oxygen feed or demister...

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_aNzaifrK1RjSspbq6A4pFXau/H-D-Crystal-Clear-Crystal-Ball-80mm-3-1inch-80mm-3D-Skull-Head-Including-Metal-Stand.jpg)

or bubble heads

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QLc90Xa4FYo/hqdefault.jpg)

(http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.TV0-j2GrpWfYhfiqcwAHSQAAAA?pid=Api&rs=1)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u218QZf1pfs/maxresdefault.jpg)

(https://www.seton.net.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/400x400/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/Y/3/Y3602676-A41610-Sphere-Facesheild-1_2.jpg)

(https://img.staticbg.com/images/oaupload/banggood/images/DD/BA/a2b2f574-172d-415c-bb48-1a041c2ebafd.JPG)

which also maybe better as it also may help avoid Facial recognition issues..(better if tinted or more coloured)

(https://img.staticbg.com/images/oaupload/banggood/images/41/4B/3b3559fb-7f60-4a29-9615-50596453cedc.JPG)

The Muslim Women or ninja type head coverings may  also now seem to have been a good idea in todays Surveilance society...

(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03048/niqab_3048687c.jpg)

or maybe to wear a type of BOJO face mask  as a new styleUK  fashion  in ref to him asking us to wear masks :)

(https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTI4NFg5NTk=/z/j2wAAOSwQN1bDy~a/$/Boris-Johnson-Mask-Halloween-Fancy-Dress-Costume-Caricature-_1.jpg)

(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/boris-johnson-novelty-face-mask-london-uk-june-london-souvenir-shop-selling-conservative-politician-72799510.jpg)

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/busted-11-covid-assumptions-based-fear-not-fact?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Busted%3A%2011%20COVID%20Assumptions%20Based%20on%20Fear%20Not%20Fact%20%28WDsqgt%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D


The face masks are simply been used to accustom everyone to obeying the control.

Next will be mandatory vaccinations with nano technology in it.

You will become a thing in the internet of things, and things are disposable.


Kevin

For those who hav been aware of such theories..

If correct , what you say would seem very possible... Conpirisist like Alex Jones have been saying this or similar for a long time. That some form of Chipping could occur and take more control of us...

It would seem  just like some nightmare film sceneio of the future with some Evil leaders with their Scientist to bring it to become some Hi tech Frankinstein agenda  or in a Bond movie Villians who has planned this all out for years..

Only this could be much Worse than anything ever in the History of tyranny...which has gone on over many past lifetimes...be it the Romans , Nazis or who ever..

There is No doubt about it .. we have become like Lab rats to them if this is not a real virus and is designed as a hoax.
Just seeing how many of us comply in our Millions.. just shows the power behind it...and what Fear can do...

but in reality as yet...it would not seem more fearful those who have been to war or what our past generations went thru during WW2..

UK, US, Canada accuse Russia of hacking virus vaccine trials

Quote

LONDON (AP) — Britain, the United States and Canada accused Russian hackers on Thursday of trying to steal information from researchers seeking a coronavirus vaccine, warning scientists and pharmaceutical companies to be alert for suspicious activity.

(1 of 2) A subject receives a shot in the first-stage safety study clinical trial of a potential vaccine by Moderna for COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, at the Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute in Seattle. Britain, the United States and Canada accused Russia on Thursday July 16, 2020, of trying to steal information from researchers seeking a COVID-19 vaccine.
July 16, 2020

Intelligence agencies in the three nations alleged that the hacking group APT29, also known as Cozy Bear and said to be part of the Russian intelligence services, is attacking academic and pharmaceutical research institutions involved in COVID-19 vaccine development.

"It is completely unacceptable that the Russian Intelligence Services are targeting those working to combat the coronavirus pandemic,'' British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said in a statement, accusing Moscow of pursuing "selfish interests with reckless behavior."

Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, rejected the British accusations, saying: "We don't have information about who may have hacked pharmaceutical companies and research centers in Britain."

"We may say one thing: Russia has nothing to do with those attempts," Peskov said, according to the state news agency Tass. The persistent and ongoing attacks are seen by intelligence officials as an effort to steal intellectual property, rather than to disrupt research. The campaign of "malicious activity'' is ongoing and includes attacks "predominantly against government, diplomatic, think tank, health care and energy targets,'' Britain's National Cyber Security Centre said in a statement.

Britain's NCSC said its assessment was shared by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency and the National Security Agency, and by the Canadian Communication Security Establishment. The move at a coordinated position seemed designed to add heft and gravity to the announcement — hopefully prompting the targets of the hackers to take protective action.

It was unclear whether any information actually was stolen, but the U.K. says individuals' confidential information is not believed to have been compromised. The U.K. statement did not say whether Putin knew about the vaccine research hacking, but British officials believe such intelligence would be highly prized.

Relations been Russia and the U.K. have plummeted since former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter were poisoned with a Soviet-made nerve agent in the English city of Salisbury in 2018 and later recovered. Britain blamed Moscow for the attack, which triggered a round of retaliatory diplomatic expulsions between Russia and Western countries.

In a separate report Thursday, Britain accused "Russian actors" of trying to interfere in December's U.K. national election by circulating leaked or stolen documents online. Unlike in the vaccine report, the U.K. did not allege that the Russian state was involved in the political meddling.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is being accused by opponents of suppressing a report into Russian interference in British politics that was completed last year by the committee that oversees the U.K. intelligence services. The document was not cleared for publication before the general election in December, and the six -month delay since then in appointing new members to the Intelligence and Security Committee led to allegations that Johnson's government was deliberately stalling.

The opposition Labour Party has accused the government of failing to publish the report because it would lead to other questions about links between Russia and the Brexit campaign in Britain's 2016 European Union membership referendum, which Johnson helped to lead.

The intelligence committee met for the first time this week and said it would publish the Russia report before Parliament begins its summer break on July 22. Some critics accused the government of releasing its dossiers of allegations about Russia as a diversionary tactic.

Johnson's spokesman, James Slack, said that was "nonsense." The report of Russia trying to hack COVID-19 vaccine research comes two years to the day since Trump stood alongside Putin in Helsinki and appeared to side with Moscow instead of U.S. intelligence agencies about the 2016 election interference.

A 16-page advisory prepared by Western agencies accuses Cozy Bear of using custom malicious software to target a number of organizations globally. The malware, called WellMess and WellMail, has not previously been associated with the hacking group, the advisory said.

"In recent attacks targeting COVID-19 vaccine research and development, the group conducted basic vulnerability scanning against specific external IP addresses owned by the organizations. The group then deployed public exploits against the vulnerable services identified," the advisory said.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity agency warned in April that cybercriminals and other groups were targeting COVID-19 research, noting at the time that the increase in people teleworking because of the pandemic had created potential avenues for hackers to exploit.

The global reach and international supply chains of these organizations also make them vulnerable, the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said in an alert published in conjunction with its counterparts in Britain.

CISA said it and the British cyberseucity agency have detected the threat groups scanning the external websites of targeted companies and looking for vulnerabilities in unpatched software. It did not identify any of the targeted companies.

U.S. authorities have for months leveled similar accusations against China. FBI Director Chris Wray said last week, "At this very moment, China is working to compromise American health care organizations, pharmaceutical companies, and academic institutions conducting essential COVID-19 research."

Mike Chapple, an information technology expert at the University of Notre Dame's Mendoza College of Business, said the Russian hackers realized that knowledge is power when it comes to COVID-19. "I think the biggest takeaway from these attacks is that other countries are actively targeting the health research industry and we're seeing the pharmaceutical companies and others being targeted because they have the information that can be used to help alleviate this global pandemic,'' he said. "It's reasonable to conclude that the coronavirus is the No. 1 priority of every intelligence agency around the world right now.''

Bill Gates Says Indian Pharma Industry Soon Able to Produce Covid-19 Vaccines for Entire World
Major countries, including US, race to develop first vaccine against Coronavirus

QuoteAs the number of COVID-19 cases approaches the one million mark in India, the country has accelerated its efforts to roll out a vaccine against Coronavirus. Recently, two potential vaccines against the virus, produced by Bharat Biotech and Zydus Cadila, were approved for human trials.

Microsoft Co-Founder Bill Gates on Thursday acknowledged India's efforts in terms of research and work on developing a vaccine against Coronavirus, while stating that India is now a member of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).

Founded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and headquartered in Oslo, Norway, CEPI accepts donations from public, private, philanthropic, and civil organisations and finances independent research projects to develop vaccines against emerging infectious diseases.

"India has a lot of capacity there – with the drug and vaccine companies that are huge suppliers to the entire world. You know, more vaccines are made in India than anywhere – starting with Serum Institute, that's the largest. I am excited that the pharmaceutical industry there will be able to produce not just for India but also for the entire world," the 64-year old business mogul commented in a documentary titled "COVID-19: India's War Against The Virus" which is set to premiere today on Discovery Plus.

Gates also highlighted that health crisis was being magnified in India due to the country's massive population and density.

Netizens have reacted to the news on social media. Here is what they had to say.


The US, UK, Russia, India, China, and Australia are also racing to develop the first vaccine against Coronavirus.

So far, there are reportedly over 155 potential candidates, all at different stages of the development. Out of these, around 23 potential vaccines for Coronavirus are in human trials, with Russia leading the squad.

In India, there are 331,146 active cases, with 24,915 deaths. A total of 612,814 people have recovered or been discharged as well, according to latest statistics of the federal Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 15, 2020, 01:53:40 AM
UK to try to enforce Wearing Masks in Shops from July 24th

This was the next thing that I was dreading... Compulsary Mask Wearing when you go in shopping areas.
Not sure if this already applies in other Countries as yet.. ie other Euro countries or the  USA/ Canada / South Americas. ...

In Portugal we have to wear masks when we are inside shops, and the same applies to the workers. Fines for not wearing them are between 100€ and 500€.

QuoteNo doubt it will be awkward to try to enforce or a real pain for small shops who dont have security...
as well as a pain for security to have to deal with offenders..

In Portugal that doesn't apply, as the number of people inside shops is already reduced to (in theory), 0.02 persons per square metre, so most small shops can only have one person at a time inside.

Quotethen no doubt anyone seen without a mask on will be pointed out by the public who favor it...

As far as I know that hasn't happened here, at least not in a scale to make it noticeable. A few days ago there was one person that went to the office of a company that, although not the one where I work, it's a "sister" company, and I have been helping them most of the time. That person didn't have a mask, so we gave her one and she put it on without any problems, I suppose she only forgot about it.

QuoteOne still wonders if this is really for the publics  best interest  .. or just another step to make us comply if they are doing this as some agenda to brainwash us further...

Wearing masks is the best way of not spreading CoViD-19 or any other disease, haven't you noticed in the last years, when we see images from Japan we see some people wearing masks? They have been doing that for a long time.

QuoteIf the Virus is for real... then no doubt its now a main concern that we do not get a main 2nd wave... and many of the public may still wonder if the Govt has acted too soon in having made many recent changes that seem to sugest that  the threat seemed to have been contained or lowered in its severeity..

but its now a concern that people may now ignor many of the things that have led to the improvements...that could end up bringing the threats back...

In Portugal, in the Lisbon area, we haven't had a reduction of the number of new cases, so things are stricter than in the rest of the country. One of the reasons things haven't got better is because people are ignoring the directions of the health authority and even making "CoViD parties". In at least one case some of the people in one of those parties were making bets to see who would catch it first when the police arrived and disbanded the party.

QuoteLooking back no doubt many things that certain countries did were VERY poor to have aided or lowered the viruses potential threat.. and yet some Countries applied much safer / stricter rules that appeared to have reduced the threat considerably...

The places where things were better controlled were the places where people are already being controlled, like China and South Korea. Yes, I said South Korea, people were completely tracked by the government and as they knew exactly where people were at almost any time they were able to quickly find the sources of the infections and close those areas. They were very strict and the result was a strong reduction in cases soon after the start.

Quoteand as I have said before... I personally cannot understand WHY all Countries do not have a set standard procedure to apply to attempt to avoid the poor actions that led to increasing the threat like what the UK and USA had done...

Different laws, timelines and situations.

For example, in Portugal they had to declare state of emergency, which allows the suspension of some constitutional rights, to be able to enforce the stay at home order and give police the power to sent people back home, as the Portuguese constitution states that everyone has the right to resist an order that goes against their rights, liberties and guarantees.

QuoteIt appears that they both were very poor and slow  at dealing with the threat in their applications.. such as taking more control of who they let into their country...and how long it took before they decided to control things to an accptable or valid positive effective application.

In Portugal, our biggest problem was lack of control of the people entering the country. I know a lawyer that married an Italian man and moved to Italy 2 years ago. As she still has some pending processes she has to come to Portugal from time to time, and she entered Portugal, coming from the North of Italy, the area worst affected, at the beginning of March, and she told us that nobody asked her if she had any symptoms or any thing like that, she just walked through the airport without any control.

QuoteLooks like maybe Alex Jones could have been right that Trump may have challenged Bill Gates (If Gates is head of the WHO)

That's a very big "if"...

QuoteIt seems that the UK Govt have been concerned about Huawei as they say they plan to ban using its services / equipment..

UK to ban new Huawei equipment due to security risks

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/uk-ban-huawei-equipment

I saw that today on Euronews, the UK, as usual, acts like a servant of the US, so if the US bans Huawei they have to do the same. The interesting part is that most equipment for 5G is made by Huawei, so I suppose 5G will have some delays as a result.

PS: Vodafone in Portugal uses Huawey routers for the normal and corporate Internet clients.

I find it funny that at least 4 or 5 years ago it was known that Chinese technology is riddled with back-doors and seemingly added functionality to give them spying capabilities in a lot of goods. It should be NO surprise to anyone that in this day and age you can't trust anyone to do the right thing and make products that have your best interest in mind.

Beyond Masks: This Portable Head Pod Could Be Your Future.

I had sent some images on one of my replies the other day of some other ideas to having to wear a mask...maybe some of you thought that I had gone insane.. and maybe I still have...

I said :

Quote
I think that I may need something more like a light weight Astronauts or deep sea divers  or motor bike like helmet or see thru type of gas mask sphere type complete head cover  that has some sort of filter or oxygen feed or demister.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.msg151169#msg151169

but  to my surprise next day I came across this....so I wonder was I having some sort of conscious thoughts or vision entering my brain.. as its seems  rather a bit of a coincidence to me... (and I had had things happen like this on quite a few occasions in recent times)

I wonder how people may view this idea ? That may make us  look a bit like Astronauts.. :o

No doubt could be more expensive than just using masks  ..Maybe if you make your own .

(But maybe not IF people buy them at some of the prices that some manufacturers of masks now are charging and  Dependent how long things go on for)

and maybe this would more inconveinient to put on and uncomforatable to wear...BUT they could be a safer bet if the Virus is as serious as we are led to believe..)

(https://cdn.summit.news/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-17-at-11.33.34.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUWbbwXYAIkTio?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaUWcClWsAcnWl5?format=jpg&name=360x360)

QuoteWith governments mandating the wearing of face masks left right and centre, and social distancing plastic pods popping up everywhere, it isn't too much of a jump to image a future where we are all forced to walk around in our own bubbles, literally.

Indeed, companies are already rushing to develop exactly that, with one already having received fifty thousand pre-orders for a portable head pod:

With governments mandating the wearing of face masks left right and centre, and social distancing plastic pods popping up everywhere, it isn't too much of a jump to image a future where we are all forced to walk around in our own bubbles, literally.

Indeed, companies are already rushing to develop exactly that, with one already having received fifty thousand pre-orders for a portable head pod:

The bubble, known as the 'BioVYZR', is being developed by VYZR technologies, a company that designs protective equipment.

The hazmat-style bubble is made from neoprene, marine vinyl, and ripstop, and has a battery powered N-95 respirator and an anti-fogging viewing window.

VYZR is charging $250 a pop for the head pod, with Bloomberg noting that it has received $400,000 already from eager customers wanting to encase their faces in plastic.

Yezin Al-Qaysi, the co-founder of VYZR technologies, commented "When the [Covid-19] outbreak happened, we realized that in a perfect world, everyone would have access to a Powered Air Purifying Respirator."

"We've taken a product usually limited to health care and industrial settings that's typically priced around $1,800 and adapted it to be accessible to the public," Al-Qaysi added.

So here we are, literally at the movie Bubble Boy:

Another similar idea..

Can you imagine walking around or entering shops in one of these ... ???

(https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/ETM0Hi8WoAA2qzm?format=jpg&name=small)


https://summit.news/2020/07/17/beyond-masks-this-portable-head-pod-could-be-your-future/

Quote from: ArMaP on July 16, 2020, 09:57:18 PM

In Portugal we have to wear masks when we are inside shops, and the same applies to the workers. Fines for not wearing them are between 100€ and 500€.


So how long has this been the case for ArMaP... since he lock down in March... or did things alter or come in more recently..  Thse fines are very expensive.. and many poor people or maybe maybe less clever or who may have some mental issues  (who are the ones more likely to offend IMO)  would never afford to pay them ... I see that as a MAJOR concern..in any Country.

In Portugal that doesn't apply, as the number of people inside shops is already reduced to (in theory), 0.02 persons per square metre, so most small shops can only have one person at a time inside.



THat also applies to some shops in the UK... but not all... and I am not sure what % wise may apply it to compare. but I can see if it able to contro more... it could help avoid those sort of problems... BUT some shops who were using similar systems.. have also now removed them in the UK in recent weeks .. and even Tescos in the UK who had applied some quite strick rules maybe more than many other shops have also recently slackened off in somethings and removeed certain restrictions..to my surprise...

As far as I know that hasn't happened here, at least not in a scale to make it noticeable. A few days ago there was one person that went to the office of a company that, although not the one where I work, it's a "sister" company, and I have been helping them most of the time. That person didn't have a mask, so we gave her one and she put it on without any problems, I suppose she only forgot about it.


It could be good if Businesses would offer Free Masks..for those who do not have them or forget them or run out.. but there is also concern about masks being easily just thrown away and litter problems etc..but my overall impression is the have to pay for or make their own


Wearing masks is the best way of not spreading CoViD-19 or any other disease, haven't you noticed in the last years, when we see images from Japan we see some people wearing masks? They have been doing that for a long time.
In Portugal, in the Lisbon area, we haven't had a reduction of the number of new cases, so things are stricter than in the rest of the country. One of the reasons things haven't got better is because people are ignoring the directions of the health authority and even making "CoViD parties". In at least one case some of the people in one of those parties were making bets to see who would catch it first when the police arrived and disbanded the party.

In the UK it has taken them a LONG time to suggest wearing a Mask would be a better option as opposed to other who as you describe had decided that they were a more vaid option from early on or from when the threat first came known.


The places where things were better controlled were the places where people are already being controlled, like China and South Korea. Yes, I said South Korea, people were completely tracked by the government and as they knew exactly where people were at almost any time they were able to quickly find the sources of the infections and close those areas. They were very strict and the result was a strong reduction in cases soon after the start.


Yes Japan and some other countries have wore masks for some years.. (I thought often due to air pollutoin rather than virus threats  (unless such threats were known to be valid) )
Different laws, timelines and situations.

For example, in Portugal they had to declare state of emergency, which allows the suspension of some constitutional rights, to be able to enforce the stay at home order and give police the power to sent people back home, as the Portuguese constitution states that everyone has the right to resist an order that goes against their rights, liberties and guarantees.


In Portugal, our biggest problem was lack of control of the people entering the country. I know a lawyer that married an Italian man and moved to Italy 2 years ago. As she still has some pending processes she has to come to Portugal from time to time, and she entered Portugal, coming from the North of Italy, the area worst affected, at the beginning of March, and she told us that nobody asked her if she had any symptoms or any thing like that, she just walked through the airport without any control.

Yes that was a problem for many Countries.. looking back now many acted very poorly and slowly...
WHICH I STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND... IF the thing is Genuine..

As I STILL SAY... FROM PAST EXPERIENCES OVER HISTORY... THEY ALL SHOULD  HAVE STRICK RULES and PROCEDURES ALWAYS,  TODAY ... IN PLACE  to AUTOMATICALLY APPLY UNDER SUCH THREATS...

Its seems that many of the Euro Countries and  the USA just bloody ignored the threat...and were really careless with their Borders or allowing Flights to continue...at least as what seemed to make no reductions what so ever for several weeks.... when certain Countries were showing serious signs of infection....



That's a very big "if"...

THAT NEEDS TO TRY TO BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER ... but at the moment what AJ said may seem possible.if Trump has had concerns over the W.H.O... so what makes you still say its a BIG IF ?

Would you be suggesting Trump has got it wrong ? or his actions may not relate to possibly Gates Involvement

see some of these other website comments that I found in ref to Bill Gates and WHO..see more info on them below..

QuoteThe Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation contributed almost $327 million to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds, making it the second-largest donor overall. The only donations to these funds higher than those of the Gates Foundation came from the government of the United States.

https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2019/01/world-health-organization-gates-foundation-now-second-largest-funder-after-u-s-government/

QuoteWe have a major crisis on our hands. Bill Gates is a VERY SERIOUS threat to not just the world economy, but to world peace. He has been using a loophole that allows health organizations to appear to be government agencies but are not independent and have been actually controlled by Gates. You will see that 80% of the funding of WHO is not from governments, but from donations. Then you see that Gates is the largest donor after countries listed on their website. Behind the curtain, the WHO has been bullied and pushed around by Bill Gates according to various sources one who is even writing a book on the domination of the WHO by Gates.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/conspiracy/bill-gates-has-been-controlling-who/


I saw that today on Euronews, the UK, as usual, acts like a servant of the US, so if the US bans Huawei they have to do the same. The interesting part is that most equipment for 5G is made by Huawei, so I suppose 5G will have some delays as a result.

PS: Vodafone in Portugal uses Huawey routers for the normal and corporate Internet clients.

Its also quite a surprise to see this occur along with Trumps issue with the WHO..so is there a connection...

Putting this into search engines to see what maybe said ..come up with quite a few other known people I am aware of other than Alex Jones who also suggest Gates as a Threat..

Is Bill Gates connected to the WHO ?

QuoteThe Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation contributed almost $327 million to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds, making it the second-largest donor overall. The only donations to these funds higher than those of the Gates Foundation came from the government of the United States.

QuoteProviding proof that the independence of the World Health Organization (WHO) has been severely compromised, a document from the 2018 annual meeting of the World Health Assembly (WHA), the WHO's decision-making body, gives revealing details of where the organization's funding comes from. During 2017, the total amount of money provided to the WHO by countries was exceeded by that coming from non-state actors, including the pharmaceutical industry. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation contributed almost $327 million to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds, making it the second-largest donor overall. The only donations to these funds higher than those of the Gates Foundation came from the government of the United States.   

Money donated by countries to the WHO's General and Fiduciary Funds totaled $1.06 billion in 2017. This was less than the contributions from non-state actors, which amounted to $1.08 billion. Along with the Gates Foundation, other prominent sources of funding included the Brussels EU Commission, which gave over $84 million; the 'Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria', an organization promoting the use of antiretroviral drugs and other pharmaceutical approaches, which contributed over $16 million; and UNITAID, another organization promoting the use of pharmaceuticals, which gave almost $30 million.
Drug and chemical industry donations to the WHO

The multinational drug and chemical industries and their investors figure prominently in the lists of WHO donors. Money contributed to the WHO's General Fund by these sources during 2017 included the following:
Bayer AG   $1,158,060


Other prominent WHO donors during 2017 included banks, private foundations with links to the pharmaceutical industry, and the George Soros Open Society Institute.
Gates treated like a head of state by the WHO 

With the contributions provided to the WHO by the Gates Foundation now exceeding those of every national government on earth apart from the United States, the WHO clearly no longer has any independence in the field of health. Having traded its scientific credibility for funding from business interests, its advice on the prevention and control of diseases cannot be trusted.

The money donated by Gates undoubtedly buys him a lot of attention at the WHO. Illustrating the extent to which he has essentially 'captured' the organization, the picture at the top of this article shows him sitting alongside Margaret Chan, WHO Director-General between 2007 and 2017, at a press conference in Geneva. The sway Gates gained over the WHO during Chan's tenure has led to him being labeled by some as "the world's most powerful doctor". As Politico has pointed out, the size of his contributions have brought him an outsized influence on the WHO's agenda. The first private individual to give a keynote speech at a WHA meeting, Gates' authority at the WHO is said to be comparable to that of a head of state.

In this situation, it isn't difficult to imagine that, should Gates ever threaten to withdraw his gigantic funding, the WHO would inevitably bend its policies to suit his will. Indeed, it is said that the appointment in 2017 of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus as the new Director-General of the WHO was made with Gates' support.

Clearly, having sold its soul to Gates and other business donors, the WHO no longer represents the interests of patients. The time has therefore come for it to be replaced with a new global body tasked with the goal of making natural preventive health a human right. Achieving this will require the creation of an organization that is truly independent. Avoiding the mistakes of the WHO and its leaders will be essential for such a body to succeed.

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https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2019/01/world-health-organization-gates-foundation-now-second-largest-funder-after-u-s-government/

QuoteWe have a major crisis on our hands. Bill Gates is a VERY SERIOUS threat to not just the world economy, but to world peace. He has been using a loophole that allows health organizations to appear to be government agencies but are not independent and have been actually controlled by Gates. You will see that 80% of the funding of WHO is not from governments, but from donations. Then you see that Gates is the largest donor after countries listed on their website. Behind the curtain, the WHO has been bullied and pushed around by Bill Gates according to various sources one who is even writing a book on the domination of the WHO by Gates.



Melinda Gates has been behind pushing digital currency and she has been addressing the G7 on the claim that this will empower women. Just unbelievable sophistry that digital currency will be better and create more jobs for women? She is also ANTI-Trump.





I have explained that Jeffrey Epstein was NOT a Pedifile which is someone who is after children pre-puberty. I certainly would not have been able to visually distinguish between a girl who was 17 and one who is 18. So what is the point of seeking girls who are 16-17 and risk a criminal violation? To me, it has always smelled of a blackmail scheme. Get people involved who may or may not even know they are 17 v 18 and then use that as a bargaining chip for other things. Here Gates teamed up with Epstein, not once, but three times he went to his island. He was dealing with Epstein since 2011 and was looking at partnering with him where he would get a $30 million fee. So was Gates one of his targets? Or was Gates looking to use Epstein for a power-play blackmail scheme against others?

It is well known in among programmers that Bill Gates didn't write the operating system which made Microsoft known as DOS. Gary Kildall (1942-1994) wrote CP/M, an operating system that ran on early microcomputers based on 8-bits. IBM either couldn't or wouldn't make a deal with Kildall. Bill Gates bought what became MS DOS from Seattle Computer Products for $50,000 and licensed it to IBM.

DOS was actually written by a 22-year old Tim Paterson (born June 1, 1956). How much of Kildall's intellectual property he appropriated is a matter of some dispute. IBM later did make a deal with Kildall by some accounts after threatening to sue IBM because DOS infringed on his copyright. The early IBM PC was sold with both CP/M and DOS operating systems, but CP/M was sold at a much higher price. Many never were aware of the two systems. Most buyers simply chose MS DOS, which became the standard, or were steered toward MS DOS by IBM.

Gate's reputation has always been cloudy. His co-founder of Microsoft, Paul Allen (1953-2018), wrote in his memoirs that Bill Gates is a ruthless schemer who demeaned his employees and conspired to rip off his business partner. Mr. Gates and Mr. Allen first became friends in 1968 over their Seattle high school Teletype machine, on which they wrote their first software together. Mr. Allen moved to Boston and Gates dropped out of Harvard University in 1975 so they could work on what would eventually become Microsoft.

The authors of "Primal Leadership" wrote in the Harvard Business Review some years ago that Gates was one of "those infamous corporate leaders who seem to have achieved sterling business results despite their brutish approaches to leadership."

Microsoft founder Bill Gates stepped down in February 2000 as chief executive of Microsoft allegedly as part of the settlement with the Department of Justice in his battle in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Gates remained as Chairman of Microsoft with the new title of Chief Software Architect. He then claimed he wanted to return "to what I love most, focusing on technologies for the future." This was an interesting explanation.

What led to this was on May 18th, 1998, the Department of Justice (DoJ) and the attorneys general of 20 different states filed antitrust charges against Microsoft to determine whether the company's bundling of additional programs into its operating system constituted monopolistic actions. The suit was brought following the browser wars that led to the collapse of Microsoft's top competitor, Netscape, which occurred when Microsoft began giving away its browser software for free.

Charges were brought against Microsoft to determine whether its bundling of additional programs into its operating system constituted monopolistic actions. Back then, there were rising concerns that it was impossible to compete against Microsoft and many alleged Gates was a ruthless businessman. The government case accused Microsoft of making it difficult for consumers to install competing software on computers operated by Windows.

Gates was accused of creative editing of video, twisting facts, and emails, but Microsoft still lost the case. The presiding judge, Thomas Penfield Jackson, ruled that Microsoft violated parts of the Sherman Antitrust Act, which was established in 1890 to outlaw monopolies and cartels. He found that Microsoft's position in the marketplace constituted a monopoly that threatened not only the competition but also innovation in the industry. You could not invent a product for Microsoft would create a competitive and put you out of business. Judge Jackson also called for Microsoft to divide the company in half and create two separate entities that would be called baby bills. The operating system (MS DOS/Windows) would make up one half of the company and the software arm would make up the other.

Microsoft appealed citing the Judge was biased in favor of the prosecution. The appeals court overturned Judge Jackson's decision against Microsoft. Instead of seeking to break up the company, the Department of Justice decided to settle with Microsoft. In its settlement, the DoJ abandoned the requirement to break up the company, in return, Microsoft agreed to share computing interfaces with other companies. The company saw its once invincible market share erode due to old-fashioned competition which allowed computers to finally explode after Gates' control was demolished. This is what has been alleged was part of the unpublished deal that Gates himself would step down, which he interestingly allegedly did to avoid the breakup of Microsoft.

Bill Gates' father was the head of Planned Parenthood. Many saw this as a covert means to justify abortion among minorities to reduce the population which he has been so concerned with which is why he has supported the Climate Change movement. Bill Gates in an interview said:  "When I was growing up, my parents were almost involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it's fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that."



Gates appears to be carrying out his father's objectives. His wife Melinda Gates, who had three kids, is alleged to have embraced abortion as a means for women to be liberated. Of course, abortion is a tool for eugenics. Many know of the racist legacy of Margaret Sanger (1879-1966), the founder of Planned Parenthood, who once gave a talk to the KKK and helped promote the "Negro Project." In her own words, "[Birth control] means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extirpation of defective stocks— those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization." (NYT, April 8, 1923). To this day, 79% of Planned Parenthood's surgical abortion facilities are located within walking distance of African American or Hispanic/Latino neighborhoods (Map).

Few know that this project is continued on an international scale by the enormous wealth of Bill Gates. In 1965, the Rockefeller Foundation was a significant donor to the International Planned Parenthood Federation (Source). Today, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has spent billions on population control in Africa and throughout the Third World. Obianuju Ekeocha, author of Target Africa, wrote in her 2012 open letter to Melinda Gates:

"Amidst all our African afflictions and difficulties, amidst all the socioeconomic and political instabilities, our babies are always a firm symbol of hope, a promise of life, a reason to strive for the legacy of a bright future. So a few weeks ago I stumbled upon the plan and promise of Melinda Gates to implant the seeds of her 'legacy' in 69 of the poorest countries in the world (most of which are in Sub-Saharan Africa). Her pledge is to collect pledges for almost $5 billion in order to ensure that the African woman is less fertile, less encumbered and, yes, she says, more 'liberated.'"



Bill Gates has targeted both Climate Change and the claim of gender equality, which is, interestingly, about women liberation not to have children. Of course, "gender equality" is all about reducing the population. Is Gates merely continuing his father's work by changing the label? In the world of insurance, you buy fire, accident, and theft insurance. However, you do not buy "death insurance" because people saw it as bad luck. They changed the label to "life insurance" and suddenly everyone bragged about how much they had. Planned Parenthood has long had a racist undertone. Just change the label to "gender equality" and everything is good!

Bill Gates has taken over the world health issue as he allegedly ruthlessly he ran Microsoft. This man, I believe, has threatened civilization itself. We should be yelling to every politician in every country to (1) abolish any governmental agency from accepting any private donation AT ONCE! and (2) to launch an investigation into the connections with Gates that span the entire world. I may be risking my life even saying this – but we have a right to be free, not tagged and herded like cattle.
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EXPOSED: Bill Gates Funding Partnerships and Moderna – America's Tangled Vaccine Web
By Viable Opposition

QuoteBy Viable Opposition – The hunt for the world's first coronavirus vaccine is taking place with numerous companies and countries seeking to solve the COVID-19 pandemic.  At the forefront, we find one American company that has been given a clear advantage in the process.

On May 15, 2020, Donald Trump announced this:

"Today I want to update you on the next stage of this momentous medical initiative.  It's called Operation Warp Speed.  That means big and it means fast.  A massive scientific, industrial, and logistical endeavor unlike anything our country has seen since the Manhattan Project.  You really could say that nobody has seen anything like we're doing, whether it's ventilators or testing.  Nobody has seen anything like we're doing now, within our country, since the Second World War.  Incredible.

Its objective is to finish developing and then to manufacture and distribute a proven coronavirus vaccine as fast as possible.  Again, we'd love to see if we could do it prior to the end of the year.  We think we're going to have some very good results coming out very quickly.  In addition, it will continue accelerating the development of diagnostics and breakthrough therapies....

To date, Operation Warp Speed has brought together all of the experts across the federal government from places like the NIH, CDC, FDA, and many other agencies.  This historic partnership will now bring together the full resources of the Department of Health and Human Services with the Department of Defense.  And we know what that means.  That means the full power and strength of military — the military.  And that — really, talking about the logistics — if we get it, when we get it.  That means the logistics, getting it out, so that everybody can take it.

And today, we're proud to announce the addition of two of the most highly respected and skilled professionals in our country — worldwide respected.  Operation Warp Speed's chief scientist will be Dr. Moncef Slaoui, a world-renowned immunologist who helped create 14 new vaccines — that's a lot of our new vaccines — in 10 years, during his time in the private sector.  One of the most respected men in the world in the production and, really, on the formulation of vaccines." (my bolds)

Notice "...so that EVERYONE can take it".  That sounds pretty non-optional to me.

Until Trump's announcement, Dr. Slaoui was a former member of Moderna, Inc.'s Board of Directors as shown here:



While Moderna may not be a "tip of the tongue" pharmaceutical company, Washington is, in fact, very familiar with the company.  Here is an announcement from Moderna dated April 16, 2020:

Thanks to American taxpayers, the company has benefited from a "donation" of $483 million from the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority or BARDA, part of the Department of Health and Human Services as shown here:

Not only has Moderna benefitted from the generosity of American taxpayers, it has benefitted from none other than the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation as shown here and here.

As if those connections weren't enough, Dr. Slaoui is also connected to the Gates Foundation through his position on the Board of Directors of the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative (IAVI) as shown here.

I bet that you can't guess who funds IAVI?  That's right, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation as shown here.
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Moderna's timeline of the development of its mRNA-1273 vaccine answer to the COVID-19 pandemic includes this, noting the highlighted portion of the announcement:

While you may not have heard of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), its mission is to "stimulate and accelerate the development of vaccines against emerging infectious diseases and enable access to these vaccines for people during outbreaks.  CEPI also claims the following:

"If a highly contagious and lethal airborne pathogen, with the characteristics of the 1918 Spanish Flu, were to emerge today it is estimated that nearly 33 million people worldwide would die in just 6 months.

The costs of emerging infectious diseases are vast—in both human and economic terms. Recent economic work suggests that the annual global cost of moderately severe to severe pandemics is roughly $570 billion, or 0.7 percent of global income. The cost of a severe pandemic like the 1918 Spanish flu could total as much as 5 percent of global GDP."

Note the use of the "33 million people worldwide would die in just six months" mantra, not entirely dissimilar to the fear being used during the initial days of the pandemic.

By now, you probably have a pretty good idea of who is funding CEPI but here is the list of founding and current donors.

As well, two voting members of CEPI's Scientific Advisory Committee are representatives of the Gates family:

Here's one of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's donations to CEPI.

Let's close this rather complicated posting by looking back at Moderna.  Thus far, Moderna has tested its mRNA-1273 vaccine on 45 individuals between the ages of 18 and 55 with the company claiming success and announcing the start of Phase 2 testing on more human subjects.  It has also announced that it is partnering with Lonza U.S. to produce up to 1 billion doses of its new experimental product mRNA-1273 starting in July 2020:

Unfortunately, by its own admission, Moderna has not successfully created a vaccine for coronaviruses as shown in this quote:

"We had previously collaborated with the NIH on a vaccine for MERS-CoV, which is a different type of coronavirus than the current pandemic. While the program was only at the research stage, it provided significant insights as we launched our efforts for mRNA-1273. Before the Phase 1 study for mRNA-1273, we had not previously tested a coronavirus vaccine in humans."

Caveat emptor.  Moderna is not unique in its inability to create a safe vaccine for coronaviruses; there has never been a vaccine for coronavirus at any time.

The complicated web of one of the world's wealthiest philanthropic armchair virologist, pharmaceutical research and his links to the newly appointed "vaccine czar" Dr. Slaoui should cause us to ponder the rapid "Warp Speed" development of a vaccine dedicated to ending the COVID-19 pandemic.  There are just so many connections between the main players in this drama that conflicts of interest are certain to trump solid science.  With Moderna having a half billion dollars worth of taxpayer funding and the company's solid connections to the Bill Gates "vaccine  funding machine", I suspect that we already have a pretty good idea that the mRNA-1273 vaccine is going to be the vaccine of choice.
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I was not aware of this organisation before...

This website makes a ref to Bill Gates and the W.H.O and this  Global Health Alliance  being connected to each other
when you read thru some of the other webpages...

Bill Gates is a Member of it...

https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/members_partners/member_list/gates/en/



About the Alliance

QuoteTo date, the Alliance has contributed significantly to a range of global, regional and national level initiatives and achievements. These include: expanding the Alliance membership to comprise and engage over 400+ organizations, multi-constituency in nature, with a stake in HRH; elevating HRH on various global agendas and in the World Health Organization's (WHO) mandated program of work; facilitating policies and action by national governments to address HRH issues, and; demonstrating evidence that indicators of progress such as aggregate HRH density, coordinated and comprehensive HRH national planning, as well as illness and death rates in critical countries have been improving.Its added value lies in its mandate – to support, convene and harness the capacities of its global, regional and national partners and members, working across the multiple dimensions of HRH – whether in health, education, finance or labour sectors. This has enabled and will continue to enable a stronger, multi-sectoral focus on HRH within the global health agenda.

https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/about/en/

The Global Health Workforce Alliance

https://www.who.int/workforcealliance/en/

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Other views maybe on Bill Gates..

    Bill Gates Funding Relationship With WHO Explained

QuoteBill Gates Funding Relationship With WHO Explained

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is one of many WHO partners that collaborate on and fund a number of global public health projects.
By Aswin Narayanan May 17, 2020

Misinformation and conspiracy theories have almost spread as fast as COVID-19 in recent months and the World Health Organization (WHO), along with Bill Gates, has been a major target for many of those theories. The internet is full of fake news surrounding both the WHO and Gates with social media users questioning the relationship between the two. Here's a closer look at exactly how Bill Gates and the WHO are connected.

The WHO has been under intense pressure from the Trump administration ever since the US was hit hard by coronavirus. President Trump's harsh criticism of the WHO, along with US funding cuts for the organization, have turned many hostile towards the agency. Although Gates has been a long-time target of anti-vaccination advocates, due to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's work to popularize immunization around the world, the claims have intensified since the foundation begun helping to fund the scientific fight against COVID-19. For instance, many people are convinced that it is Gates who has unleashed coronavirus on the world. In some instances, there are those that believe it is for the benefit of his vaccine program, while others think it is to set up a global surveillance system and a new world order. The sum of which is the internet is full of users claiming that the WHO is controlled by Gates and the foundation.
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While a far-fetched claim, it is safe to assume that the foundation has some influence over the WHO's projects, considering it is one of the agency's biggest contributors. The WHO is an agency under the United Nations and is responsible for international public health. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, on the other hand, is a private foundation that's focused on projects to enhance global healthcare and reduce poverty. As per the WHO documents, the foundation is one of the non-state actors that has official relations to the international agency and collaborates with it on various public health projects, and mainly in developing nations.
Gates' Relationship With The WHO

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has had a long history of engagement with the WHO and on various healthcare projects, such as Polio eradication. The foundation and the WHO are major partners in global public health initiatives like the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) and the Global Health Workforce Network (GHWN), and these initiatives are funded by both public and private money. Therefore, the funding is usually a combination of money donated by the WHO, governments, private companies and foundations, such as Gates' Foundation. For instance, recently, the governments of major countries have been contributing considerable amounts to GAVI due to its active involvement in the efforts to find a COVID-19 vaccine. In order for a non-state actor engaging with the WHO on projects, the organization and the actor will have to adhere to the WHO's Framework Of Engagement With Non-State Actors (FENSA). As part of this, the associating group will have to reveal its assets, annual income, funding sources and existing relations with tobacco, arms, or other industries.

As a non-state actor engaging in official relations with the WHO, it is safe to assume that the Gates Foundation would have been vetted by the agency. However, it is important to acknowledge that the foundation continues to face criticism regarding its investments in pharmaceutical firms, companies responsible for heavy pollution, and even for-profit prison corporations. As a result, questions are bound to be asked on why the organization is supporting a private foundation with such investments. As this Politico article suggests, over the years concerns have been raised by different respected critics on the foundation's - one of the WHO's biggest funding sources - influence over the organization's global projects. In other words, the conspiracy theorists can't be entirely blamed for the theories now surfacing around coronavirus, Bill Gates and the WHO.

Warning this ask you to accept cookies... if you try to read the article more than a few secnds when web page is opened
so I managed to quickly select and cop the content and post it above...but you able to view the page for a few seconds.. to check what is said..

https://screenrant.com/bill-gates-who-funding-explained/

Those head pods will not sell well on a hot country.

Wearing a mask in 37º C (98º F) is bad enough (I know, as I wore one this week, when the temperature reached 37º here in the Lisbon Area), imagine having your head inside a plastic bubble under the hot Sun in a country like Portugal or Spain, where we usually have several days with temperatures above 30º C during the Summer.

Temperatures above 40º C are also relatively common (and expected for next month, apparently).

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
So how long has this been the case for ArMaP... since he lock down in March... or did things alter or come in more recently..  Thse fines are very expensive.. and many poor people or maybe maybe less clever or who may have some mental issues  (who are the ones more likely to offend IMO)  would never afford to pay them ... I see that as a MAJOR concern..in any Country.

Masks have been mandatory inside shops since May 1st, when the emergency state ended and many businesses were allowed to reopen.

People with some kind of problem (physical, medical or psychological) can ask for a doctor declaration freeing them from the obligation to use a mask or visor.

I forgot to mention that masks are not really mandatory, as people can choose between masks and visors. Most people use masks, but I have seen some with visors and one or two with both. Children bellow 10 years are not forced to use them.

QuoteTHat also applies to some shops in the UK... but not all... and I am not sure what % wise may apply it to compare. but I can see if it able to contro more... it could help avoid those sort of problems... BUT some shops who were using similar systems.. have also now removed them in the UK in recent weeks .. and even Tescos in the UK who had applied some quite strick rules maybe more than many other shops have also recently slackened off in somethings and removeed certain restrictions..to my surprise...

They probably saw that they weren't get enough buyers with the limitations so risked removing them.
In Portugal that can result in a fine between 1000 and 5000 Euros.

QuoteIt could be good if Businesses would offer Free Masks..for those who do not have them or forget them or run out.. but there is also concern about masks being easily just thrown away and litter problems etc..but my overall impression is the have to pay for or make their own

Surgical masks are cheap, around 0.2 each if bought in boxes of 50, like we did at work. Reusable masks are more expensive, but you can wash them and reuse them.
And yes, throwaway masks are a problem, I have seen many discarded on the street as if they were just a piece of paper.

QuoteIn the UK it has taken them a LONG time to suggest wearing a Mask would be a better option as opposed to other who as you describe had decided that they were a more vaid option from early on or from when the threat first came known.

Masks are a good way of protecting other people, as they block the saliva being projected by the person wearing it if they speak, cough or sneeze, but they give only a slight protection against outside viruses or bacteria to the person wearing it.

QuoteTHAT NEEDS TO TRY TO BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER ... but at the moment what AJ said may seem possible.if Trump has had concerns over the W.H.O... so what makes you still say its a BIG IF ?

Because it is a big if. Suggesting Gates is head of the WHO is baseless and makes no sense, as it would make it harder for the WHO to get money from other countries and organisations if someone being part of the donors was the head of the WHO.

QuoteWould you be suggesting Trump has got it wrong ? or his actions may not relate to possibly Gates Involvement

I don't think his actions are related to possible Gates involvement.

In fact, the fact that Bill Gates is directly related to "big money" makes me think it would be more likely for any action from an US president to be according to it, not against, as they usually follow what "big money" wants.

QuoteIts also quite a surprise to see this occur along with Trumps issue with the WHO..so is there a connection...

The problem between the US and Huawei is mostly the fact that Huawei is Chinese and that all the other hardware companies were behind in the development of 5G technology, that's why most countries are using Huawei technology.
Now that they US made it mandatory for people not to buy from Huawei the US companies can try to make some money from it (there's the "big money" connection again).

I think I would have to agree with you on that ArMaP..

Unless they had some form of cooling system included !

Otherwise maybe only a cooler climate or a winter  option  maybe...

It would also for me depend how serious I thought the threat was... until I see some suggestions that a 2nd wave is likely or if I went to another Country  that had a higher threat (where I was able to wear or bear one)

Lately in the UK... the weather has been rather strange for July... or many parts of the year for that matter.

we have had quite a lot of rain or cloud for the last couple of months after an earlier year sunny hot period in April / or May. .

Is this to do with the Tilt of the Earth I wonder... Have you had any thoughts on NASAs altering Earth Axis suggestion ?

Quote from: ArMaP on July 18, 2020, 03:38:58 PM
Those head pods will not sell well on a hot country.

Wearing a mask in 37º C (98º F) is bad enough (I know, as I wore one this week, when the temperature reached 37º here in the Lisbon Area), imagine having your head inside a plastic bubble under the hot Sun in a country like Portugal or Spain, where we usually have several days with temperatures above 30º C during the Summer.

Temperatures above 40º C are also relatively common (and expected for next month, apparently).

Quote from: astr0144 on July 18, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
Is this to do with the Tilt of the Earth I wonder... Have you had any thoughts on NASAs altering Earth Axis suggestion ?

See my answer on that thread. :)

I must stop doubting the dominant story about the supposed virus.
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/instagram-threatens-delete-greenmedinfocom-again-why?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Instagram%20Threatens%20to%20Delete%20GreenMedInfo.com%20AGAIN%20-%20Why%3F%20%28UC6GKJ%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

Sounds very borg like to Me.
Resistance is futile.

You must BELIEVE or be eliminated.

kevin

If I recall Several Internet related Companies from Facebook, Google, yahoo have  sent messages to ask for the website owners to remove content or they have removed it...  or banned certain websites like Alex Jones channel from youtube...

It just seems that these companies are made out to be trusted and seem to either work on behalf of whoever or act at their request... and no longer offer free speech or alternative views for certain topics any more..
as if they now sort of Police what is acceptable.

On some news media this morning, it was saying that in some places that quite a large % of people do not like the idea of being asked to wear masks and are also concerned about vaccines... I think it suggested maybe in the USA.. a 1/3 of people or more may oppose it...

and IF the Govt try to enforce both mask wearing and vaccines... thats a LOT of resistance towards them...
There was mention that these people were aware and concerned about wearing masks and Bill Gates and his vaccination program agenda.

You get the Doctors who work on some of these media programs... saying how they would be willing to become Testers for the Vaccine and trying to convince the public..

Then you get some accusing the Conspirisists of misleading the public... but some presenters on the media may side on their advisors... but some seem uncertain... and may question things themselves..or they may remain neutral../ unsure.

No doubt with the Internet... this could work either way.. for the  best or the worst depending on how people may view things..

If the Virus was genuine and the Conspirisists are wrong... it could be a high price to pay...

but its the opposite or same if Govt are hoaxing the public..

I just see this as being VERY HARD for any of us to know what think or trust or believe..

In the UK they may now have another Town that could be worse than Leicesters lock down..
Its weird as for the UK on many things they slacked down in the last few weeks... and then we get this on quite a large scale.. if it continues a 2nd wave will occur in many parts of the UK...if its legit...

QuoteBlackburn has overtaken Leicester to have the highest coronavirus infection rate in England, data today revealed.
Figures show the borough of Blackburn with Darwen in Lancashire had a rate of 78.6 Covid-19 cases per 100,000 in the seven days to July 17.
Leicester — the first place in the UK to be hit by a local lockdown — saw 72.6 cases per 100,000 people over the same period.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8540885/Mosque-Blackburn-forced-close-imam-tests-positive-Covid-19.html

A quarter of Brits say they may refuse the coronavirus vaccine
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/quarter-brits-say-may-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine-13012707/

Quote from: kevin on July 20, 2020, 06:03:59 PM
I must stop doubting the dominant story about the supposed virus.
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/instagram-threatens-delete-greenmedinfocom-again-why?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Instagram%20Threatens%20to%20Delete%20GreenMedInfo.com%20AGAIN%20-%20Why%3F%20%28UC6GKJ%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

Sounds very borg like to Me.
Resistance is futile.

You must BELIEVE or be eliminated.

kevin

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 01:06:00 AM
If I recall Several Internet related Companies from Facebook, Google, yahoo have  sent messages to ask for the website owners to remove content or they have removed it...  or banned certain websites like Alex Jones channel from youtube...

Facebook, Google or Yahoo have no legitimacy or power to ask any site to change their content, but they do have the power to control what is posted on their own sites and how their services are used.
The problem with that is that Google controls almost all the advertising in the Internet, so when it reduces the score of conspiracy theories sites to almost zero the advert companies stop using those sites and the sites lose their main source of income, as most are free.

QuoteIf the Virus was genuine and the Conspirisists are wrong... it could be a high price to pay...

but its the opposite or same if Govt are hoaxing the public..

For the second option the be the most likely then all governments in the world are working together, as this is a global event. If country contrary to the status quo like Venezuela, for example, got any information or doubt about they would use it immediately in their propaganda, and that hasn't happened.

QuoteIn the UK they may now have another Town that could be worse than Leicesters lock down..
Its weird as for the UK on many things they slacked down in the last few weeks... and then we get this on quite a large scale.. if it continues a 2nd wave will occur in many parts of the UK...if its legit...

Why is it weird?

In Portugal we are having not a second wave but the continuing of the first wave in the Lisbon area while most of the rest of the country saw a big reduction in cases. That happened mostly in factories and with the transportation of construction workers on private vans, where they didn't take the care they should to avoid transmission. Also, the younger adults in their 20s even started making CoViD-19 parties, defying the rules and regulations from the health authority.
Then, some 10 days later, the cases started increasing in some parishes, and when they analysed the data about those they found out that those parishes in the Lisbon region are the ones with the highest population density in the country, so it's a question of too many people together with too little care.

https://tricentennial.us/2020/03/28/bill-gates-and-eugenics-the-world-needs-fewer-people/

Within this supposed virus plan demic is an added string where it is becoming ever more difficult to discuss about the actual agenda/s at play.

I for one see all humans as equal.

But there is others who do not, therefore it is very convienient for them to suppress all talk of possible eugenics agendas been involved by claiming any such discussion as been RACIST.

So up pops this black lives matter slogan and movement right in the middle of the so called virus outbreak?????????

Leicester and blackburn have high percentage Pakistan origin populations, who just so happen to be technology savvy people, they tend to live in highly dense Pakistan based areas and in the UK have all but totally taken over the running of taxi services.

The suppression of sites trying to openly discuss possible involvement of technology been involved in the condition that is been totally put down as covid is pointing to an organised global agenda.

Kevin

In ref to the companies like FB, Google, Yahoo, twitter ,instagram..etc.

Are you saing that maybe Perhaps they can only Police their own related connected websites... and
With google for eg.. they are as far as I Think I am aware.. maybe the largest search engine on the Internet.
So if any website owner is shown in their search engine... Is that to say that Google could remove them from it ?

Those companies however cannot as far as I know take action against a website on another search engine or platform
unless the content is found to be illegal and they report it to the law..

If I recall correct... Both Twitter and Instagram for eg have lately (in the past for other topics at times).. have sent messages to some of their members to ask them to remove content.. or they took action to do so..

Some main egs recently to do with Racism....in particular since the Black Lives Matter has become a main issue after the George Floyde incident..

But they also may be doing it in relation to Covid issues now.. and against People like Alex Jones views.

So the question for me is.. also they doing it thru Govt request... or just their own views on it ?

Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2020, 01:27:39 AM
Facebook, Google or Yahoo have no legitimacy or power to ask any site to change their content, but they do have the power to control what is posted on their own sites and how their services are used.
The problem with that is that Google controls almost all the advertising in the Internet, so when it reduces the score of conspiracy theories sites to almost zero the advert companies stop using those sites and the sites lose their main source of income, as most are free.



From when I used to Follow Alex Jones... at one point he used to claim most Countries Govts are working together on certain things.. and that were certain people who are in charge who have the power to influence them on certain agendas... Its almost saying basically... Europes ran by the UN... the we have USA, Russa and China...

Im not too sure about China as I get the feeling they are one on thie own...

But I was maybe under the impression that maybe Jones could be right on Europe / USA / Russia..

For the second option the be the most likely then all governments in the world are working together, as this is a global event. If country contrary to the status quo like Venezuela, for example, got any information or doubt about they would use it immediately in their propaganda, and that hasn't happened.


Probably because NOT long before those Citys are now under Lockdown threat again... just a few weeks after they slackened off on so many things in the UK...

But Yes that maybe still par of the 1st wave rather than a 2nd wave.... or if ref to what you say... its a similar thing...

Why is it weird?

In Portugal we are having not a second wave but the continuing of the first wave in the Lisbon area while most of the rest of the country saw a big reduction in cases. That happened mostly in factories and with the transportation of construction workers on private vans, where they didn't take the care they should to avoid transmission. Also, the younger adults in their 20s even started making CoViD-19 parties, defying the rules and regulations from the health authority.
Then, some 10 days later, the cases started increasing in some parishes, and when they analysed the data about those they found out that those parishes in the Lisbon region are the ones with the highest population density in the country, so it's a question of too many people together with too little care.

I have had similar thoughts on what you say...

This is is maybe another part to it and may take a bit of thinking about in how to over a more detailed reply ...

But I also do see the recent issues as having been now not only another main concern.. but also one may see positives and negitives with the situation...and maybe one questions how its going to effect things or if this is also being used as a manipulative motive..

In the UK.. NOW I do think many Whites are feeling threatened by this especially how the media has reacted to it..
and how we are seeing people being questioned about things like Bernie Eccelston for eg being asked WHY by a back person and white presenters why there seems few black people working in Formula 1..
and then the World Champion is Lewis Hamilton of black race wearing his Black Lives matter Tee Shirt..

Then there is the threat of over Competition in what was mainly a white Country maybe now having as much as 20 to 25% other races now living in the Country and at some period will be competing with us for jobs.. at all levels...
and maybe upto 25% of Children now in Schools are ethnics...

So some of the prior Working Class and maybe even middle class Generation who had less or even Children dues to econmic hardship or lack of security since Thatcher in the 1990s created HUGE Unemployment for that Generation.. 
many who have since ended up now many of the mental problems that is now a major topic in the UK...where they have been severely stressed with forms PDSD ..

If and when they are able to consider what may have happened over the years..

THEY MAY NOW LOOK BACK and WONDER what the HELL HAS HAPPENED...!

so ..To SOME ITS A MAJOR CONCERN...

MANY NOW are stuggling ... can no longer even get benefits easily..like they used to do without having to agree to do 35 hours a week job searching...which is a full time job...

and if you are unfit to work for things like mental issues... YOU NOW have to be accessed often by NON medical persons to see if you qulaify for benefits and if you get turned down.... and cannot work... basically you have had it..
and this is happening on a big scale..

NOW many of those people have to go to the new lastest thing... to FOOD BANKS...

and you not even allowed to go to them... without getting a valid voucher from some offical..

Thats part of the UK Today... !


On another sided arguement.... it maybe that many employers took this to their advantage and have used many of the immigrnats as cheaper labour... which no doubt they helped benefit the UK economy.. which would be hard to fully deny..
The NHS as being one eg....that the UK would be hard pressed to say anthing about those ethnics who took on those jobs and aided many people in Hospitals..

other than the British workers had to pu up with wage cuts and unemployment as they claim they could not afford to live to the lifestyle hat used to have on lower wages...and would not take those jobs..

Many Black TV and News presenters are now taking over..and are VERY well educated and Talented...and have pushed out some of the talented White presenters... No doubt ..Many have worked hard to get where they are... but they have got educated often the UK and Now live and work here..

Also in Football... there is a very Large % of players that are Black. often as many as 50% in many teams..
and lately many of them have made a ref to how they claim they have gone thru quite severe prejudist issues to get where they are..

BUT when you dealing with White people... often they want to employ people of the same race that they know..
or even White Friends and family etc.... so do we expect them to just easily offer a position to someone from another race... 

I mean would we want to give up our or family lifestyle if it was of a reasonable standard to allow another person from another race take over a job that maybe ones related connections may have been able to do or have..

Its a sort of natural thing for many especially the older people...

but Younger people who are now being more and more (some say educated some say brainwashed now by the system) ..may not know any different may not see it like this..and for the next generation may submitt to it and before you know it .... a generaion later.. your family could be replaced...

Alex Jones has suggested that George Sorus is involved in wanting to allow other races into the Country to create issues..or encourage more mixed race relationships...which to some degree has now more occurred..

He may have an agenda..since it is claimed he was held as a prisioner as a Jew if I recall in WW 2..where it was suggested he had to endure or do some terrible things to survive...and may have since developed an issue with some of the White race....

Things seemed bad enough for Jobs since Thatcher in the 1990s....competing against ones own race at around ones level of ability dependent what that maybe..

but lately in todays present ....at least around where I live...
I get impression is some areas now... they want a higher educated or stronger , cleverer  population to take over what ever the race...as even in my own area now.... There seems quite  a influx of other nationalities now living in many houses around the area they are all not that long ago were mainly british white owned..

Average People often seem under more and more pressure to have the lifes that they would have once had maybe more easily some years ago...

with in 10 to 20 years... the area has completely changed... and many prior whites and their offsprings since , do not have as many Children any more or have not had .

They are being replaced now by many other or various  races...

As much as a set % may have concerns about it... a larges % also seem to support such a thing...and encourage more other nationalities to become UK citizens..

and racism now is a very tricky area... as its as if you say anything to people about it you are viewed racist..
or may even get arrested if reported..

Many Blacks now are relating to the Slave trade and a type pay back that our race owes them..
and thats not to say that they d not have a fair point...

BUT they dont seem to realise also... that many Whites have been slaves to other races in the past thru out history..
such as to the Romans ..

But then we come across theories that the Blacks could be more under threat from Eugenics.. but maybe more so in places like Africa... not those in Europe... unless this Covid Virus is designed some how or other to target Coloured people more for some reason..

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
https://tricentennial.us/2020/03/28/bill-gates-and-eugenics-the-world-needs-fewer-people/

Within this supposed virus plan demic is an added string where it is becoming ever more difficult to discuss about the actual agenda/s at play.

I for one see all humans as equal.

But there is others who do not, therefore it is very convienient for them to suppress all talk of possible eugenics agendas been involved by claiming any such discussion as been RACIST.

So up pops this black lives matter slogan and movement right in the middle of the so called virus outbreak?????????

Leicester and blackburn have high percentage Pakistan origin populations, who just so happen to be technology savvy people, they tend to live in highly dense Pakistan based areas and in the UK have all but totally taken over the running of taxi services.

The suppression of sites trying to openly discuss possible involvement of technology been involved in the condition that is been totally put down as covid is pointing to an organised global agenda.

Kevin

n ref to the Corona Virus...

and the big questions maybe...
IS it genuinely for real ?

or

Has it been created by whoever to become a threat to us ?
So is there some Created agenda ?

Is the Goverment or someone like the NWO or Illuminati or whoever involved...
and if so....

What Next after what we have been through...so far..
I think it seems the next stage is to create and offer us a Vaccine...
and will the public be willing to take it...

And IS this vaccine being created Genuinely to aid or help , prevent or save the population ?

OR is it it beng created for further agenda means to harm us in further or other ways.. such as make us ill in ways such as by Cancer or reduce our life expectency or kill us off quicker in some way..

So we may view this as WOULD WE RISK believing who ever its for own good or best intentions..
VERSES.... IS it a likely further THREAT ?

Will the Goverment  and maybe their control of the media start to try to convince us to believe in it or suggest enforcing it..as that is what think I can see happening now.. as its one of the latest main topics on certain major TV media related programs...and are they now going to try to brain wash the Public more..

So what do we decide from here if this becomes the case..?

If the Virus and Vaccine are genuine... then many will no doubt MAY not have too many concerns in taking it..
But this may only be valid if enough will take it...as say 50 % do not.. it may Not work as would had been expected.


But if its a Hoax and the vaccine is another part to it....
Then it may seem maybe like a death sentence..

This to me is a like a 50/50 issue and VERY HARD to make a decision on...

If many feel like this.. I will suspect will try and avoid it as long as they can... and would want to see what happens to those who are willing to risk it..
BUT How will we ever really KNOW for sure who has taken it...

and IS the Govt going to bring something out to register or to identify those who have and have NOT taken the Vaccine..
and or maybe also use Public to report those that have not...

where LiFe will get even more REALLY NASTY...!
and there could be a LOT of fall out and disagreement between Family , work colleagues , neighbours , Friends etc ...

and you maybe banned from working or benefits if you do not accept... or at some point get arrested...

or at worst be take somewhere to become vaccinated against ones will..

They are saying at the Moment that they dont want to imply we should accept to have it enforced against our will..
but from past experiences... in certain other difficult situations... I suspect this would be overruled..

THE THING IS THOUGH...
HAS ANYTHING EVER HAPPENED LIKE THIS BEFORE... EVER ?

I dont think it has to my knowledge ?

(Back in 1916 I think it was Spanish Flue)  was the last main similar epidemic.. but they did not have vaccines back then as far as I know...but we are led to believe Millions did die)

So this maybe seen as a complete new issue..and we cannot compare...

Other types of epidemics .. even like AIDS...or some other main threat. which may had as seen as bad in a different way...but I dont think that  they suggested any type of vaccine or did not suggest to enforce vaccines if there was one available for those other past threats..

SO WHY are they NOW making out that this is any worse than another other past threat ???

Are they really think with certainty... thats its another similar type threat to the Spanish Flue..
which if they were almost certain... they maybe doing the right thing..

But because we have now taken other precautions... does it really need us to accept the idea of vaccines at such an early stage...if they are trying to bring it in ASAP this or early next year for eg...

where may not get much time to actually see how things have worked out over say 9 month or to one year for eg..
to see how much the precautions may appear to have worked..

I know there is concern about the 2nd wave...

But I would had thought that only should appl to considering vaccines only if the leve gets back a certain value..

and to try and make us take a vaccine say whille the level is in the acceptable zone...
SO they MAY create Millions of Vaccines.. say in the next  months.. and try to to suggest we take them...
But the threat may have been seeming to ower naturally.. and may at some point disappear on it own.

if however the threat comes worse...

Then that maybe a more valid reason to consider a vaccine if and only if we believe from some testing that it is safe or safer  to take..

Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.


>:( >:( >:( >:(


Canada has just set aside enough funds to order 2 doses of vaccine for every citizen in the country. 

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
The suppression of sites trying to openly discuss possible involvement of technology been involved in the condition that is been totally put down as covid is pointing to an organised global agenda.

I'm against any kind of censorship, so I'm against suppression of the discussion of technology being involved in CoViD-19, but I understand that when lives may be in risk for what is said people should act more responsibly.

Stating, for example, that people do not need to care about a virus spreading because this is not caused by a virus but by 5G radiation may make people act without care and catching the disease, with all the consequences it has, so people should be more careful about the way they say things.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 11:12:44 AM
Are you saing that maybe Perhaps they can only Police their own related connected websites...

Yes, they cannot do a thing about other sites, unless those other sites are doing something illegal, in which case they can alert the authorities.

Quoteand
With google for eg.. they are as far as I Think I am aware.. maybe the largest search engine on the Internet.
So if any website owner is shown in their search engine... Is that to say that Google could remove them from it ?

Yes, they have done that many times with many sites. Besides that, Google's algorithm ranks the sites according to the number of links pointing to them, but they also have a "grade", so a site with a lower "grade" doesn't appear at the same level as other sites with the same popularity but with a higher "grade".

QuoteThose companies however cannot as far as I know take action against a website on another search engine or platform
unless the content is found to be illegal and they report it to the law..

True, but as Google controls most of the advertising, their ranking affects advertising on those sites, as any company looking for sites to put their publicity on will obviously avoid spending money on sites with lower "grades".

QuoteIf I recall correct... Both Twitter and Instagram for eg have lately (in the past for other topics at times).. have sent messages to some of their members to ask them to remove content.. or they took action to do so..

Some main egs recently to do with Racism....in particular since the Black Lives Matter has become a main issue after the George Floyde incident..

It's a question of Terms and Conditions of Use, they all have them, telling people what they can and cannot do on the site (we also have them, naturally), so people have to accept them to join. After joining they are subject to those Terms and Conditions and can be penalised if they go against them.

QuoteBut they also may be doing it in relation to Covid issues now.. and against People like Alex Jones views.

Yes, if it goes against their Terms and Conditions of Use they can do it legally.

QuoteSo the question for me is.. also they doing it thru Govt request... or just their own views on it ?

They are, most likely, doing it for money, as usually advertisers do not like "alternative" views on important topics, so if a site starts getting many posts/pages with those the advertisers start to go elsewhere, so they get less advertising money.

Hopefully not too many % wise will just be snitchers...

I would think its mainy between the other two options..

There has been mention that some people will require extra doses of the vaccine..
maybe more the Elderly..

ONE THING that really distrubed me in recent times.... a few years ago..

Alex Jones warned about one of the viruses maybe for Bird flu or even just a general yearly winter flu vaccine or something and said it also contained I think it was something in relation to MMR...that was not being officially disclosed or people were not warned about it...

The MMR vaccine is a vaccine against measles, mumps, and rubella.

I new two old people who had just taken their yearly Winter Flu vaccine.... that I had considered warning them about it the day before..but was too late when I found they had already gone to their Doctor to have  it..

6 months later they were both dead...from cancer and had previously lived very well...
This has severely disturbed me since in ref to this sort of stuff...

Its very hard to even consider if one should talk to others about opinions on Viruses..even to family memebers..
especially if they have Children who are going to get vaccinated for say even such as Small pox..

on the one hand if you led to believe the vaccines could be a threat.. or believe you may had had a similar experience as i described...

and on the other if you did say something and something later was suggested as being related to effect someone for them not having taken a vaccine...

then it back fires on you...or could make you feel or  look bad..

when laymen are having to to wonder can we trust Doctors or some onewho you are led to believe you should trust..
such as Govt.. or their Scientist...

and yet you maybe being led to believe from other sources that what they say may not be truth...

its very hard to make judgement...

Quote from: micjer on July 21, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.


>:( >:( >:( >:(


Canada has just set aside enough funds to order 2 doses of vaccine for every citizen in the country.

Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2020, 01:56:30 PM
I'm against any kind of censorship, so I'm against suppression of the discussion of technology being involved in CoViD-19, but I understand that when lives may be in risk for what is said people should act more responsibly.

Stating, for example, that people do not need to care about a virus spreading because this is not caused by a virus but by 5G radiation may make people act without care and catching the disease, with all the consequences it has, so people should be more careful about the way they say things.

But that is the problem, as it may be that it is not the virus causing the condition ( hypoxia), but if all debate and investigation about technology been involved is blocked, then it is equally far more dangerous and war like if technology is been deployed against the population of this planet for a certain few mega rich lunatics agenda??????

And is it not this forums basis to investigate to determine the truth?


Kevin

Quote from: micjer on July 21, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.


>:( >:( >:( >:(


Canada has just set aside enough funds to order 2 doses of vaccine for every citizen in the country.

The MANDATORY wearing of masks is a conditioning move to enable the mandatory vaccination agenda to be be rolled out far quicker.
It will be mandatory with a huge fine and confinement for anyone not complying.

Then those who are riddled with fear will turn on anyone not having had the vaccine .
They will block anyone from ever leaving their home or having a driving license etc.

What is in the vaccine is what matters???????

It will have nano technology to enable surveilliance of every person and turn everyone into a THING in the internet of things, then You will have to puzzle out for Yourselves what further could then be undertaken from a eugenics perspective.

This is WAR , against You and all of your off spring, live in denial if You are so afraid.

MASKS

https://thedailycoin.org/2020/07/15/the-facts-on-masks-catherine-austin-fitts-dr-sherri-tenpenny-videos/

When You are wearing a mask, You are breathing back in that which Your body is trying to get rid of.

They are dangerous to YOU.


Kevin

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 11:24:44 AM
Alex Jones has suggested that George Sorus is involved in wanting to allow other races into the Country to create issues..or encourage more mixed race relationships...which to some degree has now more occurred..

He may have an agenda..since it is claimed he was held as a prisioner as a Jew if I recall in WW 2..where it was suggested he had to endure or do some terrible things to survive...and may have since developed an issue with some of the White race....

Most Jews, racially, are white, but as Judaism is a religion and not a race they can be from any race, although in Israel they prefer those from an European descent to those of a Middle East descent.

George Soros is obviously white.

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 02:35:45 PM
But that is the problem, as it may be that it is not the virus causing the condition ( hypoxia), but if all debate and investigation about technology been involved is blocked, then it is equally far more dangerous and war like if technology is been deployed against the population of this planet for a certain few mega rich lunatics agenda??????

The problem is that there isn't any real fact supporting that theory, only speculation.

QuoteAnd is it not this forums basis to investigate to determine the truth?

In forums like this, yes, but not on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram.

Seems like there is merit to the Bill Gates Vaccine conspiracy after all...

Testing Will Begin In Africa For Biometric ID, "Vaccine Records," & "Payment Systems"

QuoteTesting will soon begin in poverty-stricken parts of Africa for a biometric ID which will also be your payment system and vaccine record. The biometric digital identity platform that "evolves just as you evolve" is backed by none other than the Bill Gates-backed GAVI vaccine alliance, Mastercard, and the AI-powered "identity authentication" company, Trust Stamp.
The GAVI Alliance, which is largely funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates and Rockefeller Foundations, as well as allied governments and the vaccine industry, is principally concerned with improving "the health of markets for vaccines and other immunization products," rather than the health of individuals, according to its own website. Similarly, Mastercard's GAVI partnership is directly linked to its "World Beyond Cash" effort, which mainly bolsters its business model that has long depended on a reduction in the use of physical cash.
Reducing the use of cash is needed. Cash is impossible to track, but if you use centralized digital currency, the ruling class has complete control over what you can spend.

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/testing-will-begin-in-africa-for-biometric-id-vaccine-records-payment-systems_07162020 (https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/testing-will-begin-in-africa-for-biometric-id-vaccine-records-payment-systems_07162020)

Bill Gates sees RNA vaccines as best options for quick coronavirus treatment

Quote"You essentially turn your body into its own vaccine manufacturing unit," Gates writes.
DNA vaccines are similar, but feature a different type of genetic material and method of administration, according to the blog post.
Scientists aren't sure if RNA platforms are effective for vaccines, and Gates acknowledged that there may not be a perfect coronavirus vaccine by the time we need it.
"If we were designing the perfect vaccine, we'd want it to be completely safe and 100 percent effective. It should be a single dose that gives you lifelong protection, and it should be easy to store and transport. I hope the COVID-19 vaccine has all of those qualities, but given the timeline we're on, it may not," he writes.
Gates predicts that the vaccine that is at least 70 percent viable will be enough to stop the outbreak, and that one will be ready in about 18 months. The primary challenge will be to see if the vaccine can work well in elderly patients, as they tend to be more immunocompromised.
Additionally, about 7 billion doses of the vaccine will need to be distributed globally, with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation working with Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, on how to effectively deploy medicine.
"It might be a bit hard to see right now, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. We're doing the right things to get a vaccine as quickly as possible," Gates concludes. "In the meantime, I urge you to continue following the guidelines set by your local authorities. Our ability to get through this outbreak will depend on everyone doing their part to keep each other safe."

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/495650-bill-gates-sees-rna-vaccines-as-best-options-for (https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/495650-bill-gates-sees-rna-vaccines-as-best-options-for)

Vaccines That Change your DNA & Gates' Italian Experiment

QuoteEurope was already planning for a Vaccine ID Passport from the 3rd quarter of 2019. The real question is what is a vaccine. Gates has been funding a vaccine that is totally different. Instead of introducing a sample of a disease, he has been funding a vaccine that is in part nanobots that target to change and alter your DNA to prevent disease. This is already being met with approval and is highly questionable as to what are the long-term effects of changing someone's DNA.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/vaccines-that-change-your-dna-gates-italian-experiment/ (https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/vaccines-that-change-your-dna-gates-italian-experiment/)

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 02:46:44 PM
The MANDATORY wearing of masks is a conditioning move to enable the mandatory vaccination agenda to be be rolled out far quicker.
It will be mandatory with a huge fine and confinement for anyone not complying.

In some countries vaccination is already mandatory, in other countries it cannot be without changing the constitution.

QuoteThen those who are riddled with fear will turn on anyone not having had the vaccine .
They will block anyone from ever leaving their home or having a driving license etc.

How can people know if you didn't get the vaccine?

QuoteWhat is in the vaccine is what matters???????

It will have nano technology to enable surveilliance of every person and turn everyone into a THING in the internet of things, then You will have to puzzle out for Yourselves what further could then be undertaken from a eugenics perspective.

See, that's the kind of talk I was mentioning before. You are presenting your theory (or someone else's theory that you adopted) as fact, as if you have supporting evidence, when in fact you have nothing. That's the kind of scare tactics terrorists use to spread fear in the population and the kind of talk sites like Facebook and Twitter ban.

Even here, where we allow the discussion of these theories, we have had little of discussion, as you haven't presented any thing we can discuss, only that idea.

QuoteThis is WAR , against You and all of your off spring, live in denial if You are so afraid.

More scare tactics. You are the one spreading fear around here, not the people that think the virus is real and provokes a real disease.

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
When You are wearing a mask, You are breathing back in that which Your body is trying to get rid of.

They are dangerous to YOU.

Then why do doctors and nurses use them during surgeries?

Do you think you will wear a mask Kevin ?

Or maybe at least initially not do so and see what happens..
I suspect a fair ammount of people may not... and will to see just how the law / authorities will react to them not doing so.

I myself do not want to wear one... I feel its a phobia to me... but if you are denyed access to entering shops.. we have no choice.

I also think some people will go to their doctors to get some sort of certificate to say they are exempt..
I dont know if I am really convinced that they will make that much difference...

yes they stop initial sneezing spread... but some particals will still become airbourne and it probably will only take a minute particle to effect someone ... (if this thing is as they describe)

They are saying in the UK.. that children under 11 dont have to wear masks...

and are being given something like an AP that they can carry on their phones to show any shop keeper or complainer.. if they are not say initially aware of the age exemption/ or think they look older than 11 yrs.......that they can show any disbelievers...

WILL this work ok for them  ?  who knows .... but it will be interesting to see..

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
MASKS

https://thedailycoin.org/2020/07/15/the-facts-on-masks-catherine-austin-fitts-dr-sherri-tenpenny-videos/

When You are wearing a mask, You are breathing back in that which Your body is trying to get rid of.

They are dangerous to YOU.
Kevin

The suggestion of the NANO technology if truth as Alex Jones described if I recall in one of his videos.. seems very disturbing if what it says is truth...

and I would have hoped that People Like Trump.. if they are aware of this.. would expose it..

If we have no one trustworthy to confirm or deny this.. we are left in the dark... and certainly will be affraid of considering any vaccine..

The other things about Vaccines that Alex Jones has made claims about.... is that he and some other people have in the past somehow or other... appear to have claimed that they never allowed any of their children to have been given any vaccines..

I thought that the Systems (esp in the UK  at early or early School level ) enforced some vaccines maybe like Small Pox..

So How did he get away with that I wonder..

and he has said that vaccines often impair ones intellegence development..or create mental issues later i Life..

and he says generally we are rarely at threat from anything...that is of the known past threats..(unless we may go to certain Countries where the threat may still be like in Africa)

Quote

It will have nano technology to enable surveilliance of every person and turn everyone into a THING in the internet of things, then You will have to puzzle out for Yourselves what further could then be undertaken from a eugenics perspective.

Thanks ArMap for your explanations or comments about Search engine Companies / websites like google..

Yes.... George Soros is as far as I am aware is a WHITE Jew..

Not sure about other jews colour in general... But most I may have come across or seen on TV seem to be whites.

In ref to  what I think Alex Jones was referring to...

I dont know if he was suggesting that because what he went thru in a concentration Camp in the war where he was forced do killings or aid in the gassing etc...

that he is now for some reason got huge agendas maybe against some of his own race..

(Would that be more agaisnt the Germans) or include other countries as well..

I think it did because he may have had issues that his own SIDE did not act quick enough or do enough to help save himself and other Jews earlier on.....and he considered it a let down from some of his own Colour of race..

and maybe he has since wanted to create issues to upset them  later in his life once he became business successful or Rich to creates the agendas that Alex Jones claims he has or is involved in...

Such as have some say in allowing a huge flux of Racial Intergration into European Countries..
that may had also been in relation to some of the EU plans when they occurred .. maybe he helped fund their aganda.

Quote from: ArMaP on July 22, 2020, 02:39:54 AM
Most Jews, racially, are white, but as Judaism is a religion and not a race they can be from any race, although in Israel they prefer those from an European descent to those of a Middle East descent.

George Soros is obviously white.

In ref to our past Group Comments on Bill Gates... ie is he the devil or a hero saviour ?

I dont doubt some members will still be asking proof to to these articles..

But I still think there is a lot of high possibility or truth behind at some of these agendas..

I definately think they are aiming to chip us if such technolgy does exist.. (It exists presently on Animals so not humans as their next agenda )..and or put us on a type Biometric system...

Then no doubt they will have a system in place to know that they have recorded us if we have taken the vaccines or not..

Exactly what they can do to us if they achive doing this... is the big question ?

and some may ask why ?   WHY do they need to think they need to do this..

It just seems that if they can ... it will save so much time and money in lots of issues in relation to Human problems..
and further monitor us all in huge detail..no one will be able to do anything without them knowing...
but we will all then be part Cyborg..

As much as we may want to reduce crime... Many people thru out history and some of our relatives have prospered from certain illegal activities..

and if future generations have this taken away from them.... to some degree.... it may well well end them..or there species.. unless they obtain other suitable means to obtain money...which for some are less oportunity to do so..

as a large majorty of people would have done something that could be viewed criminal..ie steal something... cheat in an exam.. or give false job descriptions etc..

If they did come up with some chip / vaccine that could help improve us in various ways... such as monitor our health.. cells in the body...fight against bad genes..in ref to DNA etc...and maybe improve our mental abilities etc..

I wonder how people view that..

But are they going to help improve our Intellegence.. that could be a positive to us and them...
but I am sure it will still become restricted to what ever level that they want us at..


Quote Ellirium113

Quote
Seems like there is merit to the Bill Gates Vaccine conspiracy after all...

Testing Will Begin In Africa For Biometric ID, "Vaccine Records," & "Payment Systems"


https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/testing-will-begin-in-africa-for-biometric-id-vaccine-records-payment-systems_07162020
Bill Gates sees RNA vaccines as best options for quick coronavirus treatment


https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/495650-bill-gates-sees-rna-vaccines-as-best-options-forVaccines That Change your DNA & Gates' Italian Experiment

Quote from: astr0144 on July 22, 2020, 12:27:52 PM
Do you think you will wear a mask Kevin ?

Or maybe at least initially not do so and see what happens..
I suspect a fair ammount of people may not... and will to see just how the law / authorities will react to them not doing so.

I myself do not want to wear one... I feel its a phobia to me... but if you are denyed access to entering shops.. we have no choice.

I also some people wil go to their doctors to get some sort of certificate to say they are exempt..
I know if I am really convinced that they will make that much difference...

yes they stop initial sneezing spread... but some particals will still become airbourne and it probably will only take a minute particle to effect someone ... (if this thing is as they describe)

They are saying in the UK.. that children under 11 dont have to wear masks...

and are being given something like an AP that they can carry on their phones to show any shop keeper or complainer.. if they are not say initially aware of the age exemption/ or think they look older than 11 yrs.......that they can show any disbelievers...

WILL this work ok for them  ?  who knows .... but it will be interesting to see..





The suggestion of the NANO technology if truth as Alex Jones described if I recall in one of his videos.. seems very disturbing if what it says is truth...

and I would have hoped that People Like Trump.. if they are aware of this.. would expose it..

If we have no one trustworthy to confirm or deny this.. we are left in the dark... and certainly will be affraid of considering any vaccine..

The other things about Vaccines that Alex Jones has made claims about.... is that he and some other people have in the past somehow or other... appear to have claimed that they never allowed any of their children to have been given any vaccines..

I thought that the Systems (esp in the UK  at early or early School level ) enforced some vaccines maybe like Small Pox..

So How did he get away with that I wonder..

and he has said that vaccines often impair ones intellegence development..or create mental issues later i Life..

and he says generally we are rarely at threat from anything...that is of the known past threats..(unless we may go to certain Countries where the threat may still be like in Africa)

I have a friend who has a doctors note saying he doesn't have to wear a mask due to Him been claustrophobic
Which made Me laugh.

If You don't wear a mask in shops the people there will turn on You, this is how the vaccine will be made mandatory, the masks are dangerous to the wearer due to breathing back in what Your body is trying to rid itself of constantly.

This is nothing more than an attack on humans, it is lunacy, and the amount of discarded masks everywhere is disgusting, they should have been made biodegradable.

I work two days a week at a recycle centre, it is disgusting what is been dumped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeVf8Bq1knk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3TA60WcQMtKKeScqj9CbTBb8VQiKcSPDgRYo4HOAgHjrc_qfiA14V04cI

This lady is talking sense, especially with munchausens syndrome , as they are trying to make everyone think that everyone else is sick and dangerous, it is all an attack on humans.


Kevin

I dont think wearing anything over our mouths or to restrict breathing is a good thing if it can be avoided..

No doubt those who visit shops... can be done within a reasonable short time..if its a quick type shop..
but may be dong this more times in one week..

or they do longer time once a week / month like indepth shops..

but I suspect that those who work in shops will now have to wear them all day..as some other workers alreay do so.

What the Video says could be correct or along the lines that I am already partly aware maybe possible..
and if true its very disturbing...

I am not sure what sort of materials the new created type paper like masks are made  of..
some others can be home made using cloth of some sort... such as old socks materials..

there was a news program that was showing a company that is producing them... who have a special machine..
it did mention about the materials but I did not note it down..

Some peole will make a LOT of money from Masks..

One businessman acted very quicky and created self serve vending machines where you can obtain them around the country or various parts of ones town..

The Cost of some of the paper like ones seems high to me.. 5 to 10 GBP for 20 to 50 off if I recall..
A lot of people struggle to afford that..esp if they have to supply other familiy members..
I dont think many places offer them free, but some may do at times..

Quote

I have a friend who has a doctors note saying he doesn't have to wear a mask due to Him been claustrophobic
Which made Me laugh.

If You don't wear a mask in shops the people there will turn on You, this is how the vaccine will be made mandatory, the masks are dangerous to the wearer due to breathing back in what Your body is trying to rid itself of constantly.

This is nothing more than an attack on humans, it is lunacy, and the amount of discarded masks everywhere is disgusting, they should have been made biodegradable.

I work two days a week at a recycle centre, it is disgusting what is been dumped.

I suspect this is the sort of thing that maybe possible to try to obtain for those who say they have a problem wearing masks...

But do you have to go thru to convince ones Doctor or whoever to get such a certificate or identification..

No doubt it will on some sort of Govt data base..

How many will actually attempt to check up I wonder....

Larges stores like Walmart / Tescos etc may have links to the data base and may confront those who show such IDs / Certiificates.. before they let you shop in their store..

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.OrEOBEJ0sIGHPl_-nJYaHgHaEK?pid=Api&rs=1)

(https://anewscafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/ADAScam1.jpg)

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/video-we-are-victims-greatest-crime-history?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Video%3A%20We%20Are%20Victims%20of%20the%20Greatest%20Crime%20in%20History%20%28SMj8VG%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D
This man is spot on, and funny with it.

Dr Vernon Coleman.

Kevin

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/index.htm

You have been lied to on a massive scale, do You still buy their lies??????

If so , please put on Your zoro masks and hide away in fear.

This is WW3 , not with guns, but with technology.

Kevin

Quote from: ArMaP on July 22, 2020, 10:25:45 AM
Then why do doctors and nurses use them during surgeries?

We wear procedure masks to avoid passing pathogens to our patients.  In the event of a patient with tuberculosis, an N95 mask is required for the protection of staff members.  That type of mask filters out incoming pathogens.  A tuberculosis patient must also be in a negative airflow room.  That room vents the inside air out to the atmosphere where it can disperse.  In a regular room, the tuberculosis pathogen would be able to escape to the rest of the facility, potentially infecting others.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 12:55:43 PM
Has it been created by whoever to become a threat to us ?

As usual I start by asking "why"? Why would "they" do that?

Quoteand IS the Govt going to bring something out to register or to identify those who have and have NOT taken the Vaccine..

In Portugal we already have a registration of the vaccines we take.

Quoteor at worst be take somewhere to become vaccinated against ones will..

They would have to change the Portuguese constitution for that to happen here, as it does not allow for forced medial procedures.

QuoteSO WHY are they NOW making out that this is any worse than another other past threat ???

Because of the number of people that need intensive care treatment, as it's easy for the health system to be flooded with CoViD-19 cases, like what happened in Spain and Italy.

QuoteBut because we have now taken other precautions... does it really need us to accept the idea of vaccines at such an early stage...if they are trying to bring it in ASAP this or early next year for eg...

If a virus creates immunity in infected persons then a vaccine is the best way to stop it.

Quote from: micjer on July 21, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.

There's also those that do not care much about it, like me. :)

If they come up with a proven vaccine, I will probably take it.  My grandchildren have drilled it into my head that I'm not allowed to die, so if I contracted COVID and died because I didn't get vaccinated, they would probably hold a seance to bring back my spirit and yell at me.

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 23, 2020, 07:24:50 AM
If they come up with a proven vaccine, I will probably take it.  My grandchildren have drilled it into my head that I'm not allowed to die, so if I contracted COVID and died because I didn't get vaccinated, they would probably hold a seance to bring back my spirit and yell at me.

Good one Shasta  ;)

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 02:09:43 PM
I new two old people who had just taken their yearly Winter Flu vaccine.... that I had considered warning them about it the day before..but was too late when I found they had already gone to their Doctor to have  it..

My late boss, besides being a diabetic, was a healthy man, and because he was a diabetic he had regular exams. On November 2016 he started complaining about pain in one leg and in the back. In January, after many exams, they found out that he had cancer, spread all over his body, and the pain came from the fact that the bones were already affected. He died in February.

This is just to show that dying of cancer in six months is not that rare, people die of cancer in less than that.

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 22, 2020, 03:42:48 AM
Seems like there is merit to the Bill Gates Vaccine conspiracy after all...

The conspiracy is (as they usually are) on some truths, but they add things that are not true, so when people look for information about it they find the truth part and think the whole is true.

QuoteTesting Will Begin In Africa For Biometric ID, "Vaccine Records," & "Payment Systems"

From what I have seen they want an electronic record to know who was vaccinated. I haven't seen any sign that they want to inject electronics in the people.

QuoteVaccines That Change your DNA & Gates' Italian Experiment

Unless I'm mistaken I haven't seen any reference to vaccines that alter the person's DNA, although I have read about DNA vaccines. Those are vaccines that use DNA similar to that of the virus/bacteria they want to fight to make the person's cells create the antigens in the same way as if they had detected the virus/bacteria. There aren't any "nanobots" in those.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/5g-radiation-linked-coronavirus-infection-new-study-suggests?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%205G%20Radiation%20May%20Cause%20Coronavirus%20Infection%2C%20New%20Study%20Suggests%20%28RDJeUd%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

And now our glorious leader boris has stated that anyone doubting the vaccine is a "nut"

I am proud to be a nut.

Kevin

At least he's not promoting GLORY HOLES!  :o

QuoteSteps to protect yourself during sex
Here are some ways to lower the chances of being exposed to COVID-19 during sex with others:
Ask your partner(s) if they're feeling unwell or have any  symptoms of COVID-19.
Consider keeping contact information for your partner(s) so that you can reach them if one of you develops symptoms.
Before and after sex:
Wash your body with soap and water.
Wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds.
Wash sex toys thoroughly per the manufacturer's instructions. Most, but not all, can be cleaned with mild unscented soap and water. Do not share them with multiple partners.
Wear a face covering or mask. Heavy breathing during sex can create more droplets that may transmit COVID-19.
Avoid or limit kissing and saliva exchange.
Choose sexual positions that limit face-to-face contact.
Use barriers, like walls (e.g., glory holes), that allow for sexual contact but prevent close face-to-face contact.
Using condoms, lubricant, and dental dams may help to further reduce the chances by minimizing contact with saliva, semen, feces, blood and/or internal genitalia/vaginal fluids during sex.

http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/prevention-risks/covid-19-and-sex?fbclid=IwAR1R4D0XLflRWaSF9mbAgPHxZ6VF4_b3LgHWRlAGjrOP3aT4A70pcdDF4KM (http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/diseases-conditions/covid-19/prevention-risks/covid-19-and-sex?fbclid=IwAR1R4D0XLflRWaSF9mbAgPHxZ6VF4_b3LgHWRlAGjrOP3aT4A70pcdDF4KM)

What is this world coming to? LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXZCZy3E-0&t=7s

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 25, 2020, 03:42:48 AM
At least he's not promoting GLORY HOLES!

Things are getting ridiculous.  ::)

Could be a very Interesting Post Kevin.

I recall Vernon Coleman when he used to write every week in  the " People  Newspaper"...(That later became the Sunday People) (For younger people and those outside the UK it / it maybe one of the most well known Sunday New Papers that ran for many years..) but I am not sure if it still is in operation today or not..
this shows some ref to Vernon Coleman and  the People newspaper.

https://vernoncoleman.com/weekly.htm

I think he was seen as the Working class Mans most trusted Doctor...at least back then..

For those of us who have question the validity of this virus.. to have him ref to it as well... may offer one more faith in their views on it..

I seem to recall often he be making claims that many may had disbelieved about various things be medical or Polictics .
I would really liked to have been able to ask him some further questions if he was obtainable..
(Which his website says he is unable to offer his contact details as in the past he was flooded with far too many wanting to contact him.)

QuoteVernon always tried to answer letters as soon as possible but eventually there just wasn't enough time in the day – and no time left to research or to write anything.

He says quite a few things that Alex Jones relates to.... that the Govt want to kill us off...



Seems he has had some of his videos banned...

I need to try to read his webite in more detail....

I was going to say I wanted  to know if he has made any Negative  refs to Bill Gates vaccine program  ?..
Then I just came across an article from him on Bill Gates...

Quote

Just a Little Prick – The Bill Gates Story (Part One)Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSABill Gates is often described as a philanthropist.Interviewers generally seem to treat him as a cross between a saint and a prophet. In a way this isn't difficult to explain. After all, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a partner with many media companies, tossing money around with remarkable generosity. In the UK, the BBC and The Guardian are just two of the recipients of Gates largesse.It would, of course, have been possible for Gates to have used his vast wealth to change poor countries in a very straightforward and positive way by, for example, using his billions to help with road building programmes or to help poor farmers to improve their land and their farms by digging wells. Using $10 billion to set up water supplies would have doubtless saved many lives in a simple, honest way. But you can't control the world quite as easily simply by doing practical, honest things which save lives. And Gates seems to me keen to take control of every aspect of our lives. To me he seems to be a strange hybrid of those mad fictional characters Dr Strangelove and Ernst Stavro Blofeld – the James Bond baddie.I'm afraid I don't believe any of Gates' projects have anything much to do with philanthropy. There is too much intermixing of donations and business. What do the Gates family really want? I cannot help thinking it's more about power and unspoken plans.Gates got rich through the Microsoft software company, allegedly because his mum knew the chairman of IBM and got Gates his big break. There are accusations that Gates stole some of the ideas for his business. Personally, I feel that Gates has made himself obscenely rich by making the world a far more stressful and annoying place than it was before Microsoft appeared. In my experience, there were other much easier to use word processing programmes but Gates steamrollered the opposition out of the way with ruthless efficiency. Gates' original partner, Paul Allen, claimed that Gates tried to screw him and charged his partner, with mercenary opportunism. Before Gates arrived on the scene, people who wrote software often gave it away free. Gates took over the world of personal computing, acquired a monopoly position and took full advantage of it to make himself very rich. Additionally, there have for some time been doubts in my mind about how close Microsoft is to the National Security Agency in the USA.The Microsoft billionaire seems to have learned his hometown boy act from veteran investor Warren Buffett who didn't get to be rich by being a hometown boy but has a good line in simple charm. Gates has described himself as a health expert. He frequently offers advice and predictions about health matters though personally I'd have thought his only area of expertise with viruses involved those usually found in computers. He has stated that the world will not return to normal after the coronavirus until all or most of the world's population has been vaccinated. Because he has a lot of money, and tends to distribute it widely, politicians and bureaucrats and scientists listen to his advice and accept what he tells them – parroting his line about vaccination with great loyalty.It would, I think, normally be unusual for a bloke with no formal medical training to give health advice to the world but Gates has managed to buy himself a seat at the table by giving huge sums of money to organisations such as the United Nations and the World Health Organisation – in my own view now two of the most evil organisations in the world. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is said to be the second largest contributor to the WHO and If the United States really does stop its donations then Gates will be the biggest contributor. That sort of money buys a lot of access and, I think, an unhealthy amount of influence – especially when you also spend a good deal of money on publicity designed to show the world what a good egg you are. Gates is also linked to the World Economic Forum, which reckons that the coronavirus is a great excuse to change the world and which has a plan called The Great Reset which, like most of these plans which have emerged since the coronavirus, seems to me to have been prepared some time before the arrival of covid 19.Gates, of course, also gives a good deal of money to Imperial College in London – the place where Neil Ferguson works. It was, of course, Ferguson whose rubbishy forecasts about the coronavirus resulted in the lockdowns, the social distancing, the ruin of the British and American economies, untold deaths in care homes and so on. Gates has also funded work done by Dr Chris Whitty, the UK's current Chief Medical Officer. And the Gates Foundation has even given money to Public Health England – a UK Government organisation, sponsored by the Department of Health, which allegedly exists to protect and improve the nation's health. Public Health England appears to be desperately keen on vaccinations which is a big surprise, of course. One of their documents carries the slogan Keep Calm and Carry on Vaccinating – which seems a little cheesy to say the least.Before I go any further it is important to point out, and bear in mind, that Gates believes the planet is overpopulated. He thinks this is a real problem. Is it still a secret passion? Who knows? Interviewers, who often seem to come from organisations with financial links to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation rarely ask searching question about difficult issues.The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is an odd organisation in that as well as having philanthropic aims it also invests in a good many companies designed to make a profit. Indeed, the Foundation seems to be doing very well and seems to me to operate as much like a family investment trust as a charity.The Gates Foundation has a mass of interlinked projects and commercial holdings. And it seems to an outsider as though he is more interested in controlling the world than in helping people.Here are just a few of the things Gates is currently doing with his money.First, of course, there are the vaccines. I have already dealt with some of the controversies associated with the Gates's obsession with vaccines in previous videos.Gates seems obsessed with vaccines and now seems to favour ones using very new technology. He is terrifyingly keen on giving his experimental vaccine to billions of people – ideally to the whole population of the planet. It doesn't seem to occur to him that even relatively safe vaccines have been known to cause many thousands of deaths, might enhance susceptibility to disease or indeed cause and spread infections. If it has occurred to him it doesn't seem to be something that worries him unduly.On the surface Gates seems to see vaccination as the answer to most of the planet's health problems and sees them only doing good and incapable of doing very much harm. `We're not going to return to normal until most people have been vaccinated,' he has said, after warning that the coronavirus would otherwise result in millions of deaths. `You will never be free until we have a vaccine,' seems to be the mantra. Naturally, the politicians and the scientists agree with the man with the money even though experts seem to agree that a vaccine may never be found. If no vaccine is found then much of the world will remain in a state of terror and social distancing and masks and occasional lockdowns will become a normal part of life. Is that what Gates wants? The politicians and the big business people with a yearning for control will be delighted.Moreover, Gates seems to have decided that we won't have a vaccine for 18 months – and, naturally, the world's politicians and scientists (many of whom are on the Gates payroll) agree with the world's least qualified but most powerful `doctor'. So it seems that the artificial lockdowns and the unnecessary social distancing and masks will remain in place.Incidentally, I usually avoid the words vaccine and vaccination because they tend to result in censorship. On this occasion, however, it seems impossible to do so.Since Gates is convinced that the planet is overpopulated it seems odd that he would be keen on vaccinating huge swathes of Africa. You might think that vaccinating children would mean that there would be fewer deaths and that the population would go up. But Gates argues that if you vaccinate children and they don't die then mothers will have fewer babies and instead of having eight babies in the hope that two will live they will just have three, believing that the vaccines will keep them alive. I am not at all sure how this means that vaccination will result in a fall in the population but Gates says it will and the politicians and the scientists and the journalists all nod wisely, pat their wallets and agree with him. I haven't been able to find any real, solid evidence for this claim, which seems to me to be a combination of the bizarre, and the unbelievable, laced with wishful thinking, apart from the evidence from Gates himself. I don't like to point this out but religion seems to play a part in the number of children a woman has. In the UK, for example, the figures show that Muslims tend to have an average of three children per family whereas Christians usually have only two.There are, of course, those who are concerned that Gates's mass vaccination programme is part of his plan to reduce the world's population to 500 million or so – a figure that many who are keen on population control regard as acceptable. Personally I cannot see the difference between an untested vaccine, used globally, and genocide. But then I'm perhaps a little old fashioned in liking to see drugs and vaccines properly tested before being rolled out to large populations.And although interviewers rarely seem to mention it there are some very worrying stories circulating about some of the vaccination programmes promoted by Gates and/or the WHO. These are not, however, worries that get aired in those parts of the media supported by grants and partnerships from the Gates Foundation. I allow absolutely no advertising or sponsorship on my videos or website. But great chunks of the media, popular and specialist, seem to enjoy close, financial links with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and it is important to remember this. I have no doubt that many websites are also given money or support by the Foundation.I will deal with Bill Gates' obsession with vaccines in the second part of this two part series entitled Just a Little Prick.But there are many other topics which must first be mentioned.First, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has invested in a company called Monsanto.I have always regarded Monsanto as the most evil company on the planet and I've thought of it this way for several reasons.First, Monsanto has long been a leader in the development of genetically modified plants. These terrify me because as far as I have been able to find out they have never been properly tested to see what long term consequences there might be. What damage could there be to crops in a few years' time? Could they become more susceptible to disease? And are there any risks to the people who eat genetically modified food? For some years now, Monsanto has taken to patenting its seeds and as a result small farmers who have traditionally grown their crops from their own seeds have found that they have been unable to do so. There are said to have been many thousands of suicides as a result of this – as farmers found that they weren't allowed to grow the seed they had saved from their own crops but had to buy seed they couldn't afford to buy. I have reported on this many times in the past.And, of course, Monsanto is the manufacturer of Roundup – a doubtless effective but equally doubtless nasty weed killer. Unfortunately, there have been a number of claims that Roundup causes cancer and there were 125,000 lawsuits as a result. The German company Bayer bought Monsanto a little while ago. Bayer is alleged to have paid $63 billion for Monsanto and to have paid $10.9 billion to settle the claims relating to Roundup.Bayer, now the new owner of Monsanto, has an interesting history which is worth a short detour while we're here. Think of this as our equivalent of a side trip to Barnard Castle.In 1925 a group of important German companies, which included Bayer, formed a cartel called IG Farben. Their aim was to obtain control of global markets in key industrial sectors – specifically: chemicals, pharmaceuticals and petrochemicals. History shows quite clearly that it was the formation of this cartel, and the creation of IG Farben, which led directly to the Second World War (and all its associated atrocities) and ultimately the European Union. IG Farben's need for cheap labour was so great that the company built a huge factory at Auchswitz where there was a large reservoir of slave labour. Bayer, the company's pharmaceutical division tested its drugs on prisoners. IG Farben also made huge amounts of money by providing the gas for the killing of prisoners in concentration camps throughout Germany.At the end of the Second World War IG Farben was broken up into four new companies, one of which was Bayer, and all of Farben's assets (including the profits from manufacturing the gas used in the infamous gas chambers) were transferred to the new companies – all of which were managed and run by the people who had run IG Farben.So, the bottom line was that although IG Farben had been run by war criminals no one was really punished and things carried on much as they had done during the war. The only thing that changed was that a good deal of company notepaper had to be redesigned and freshly printed.The new companies denied any responsibilities for the actions of IG Farben on the basis that they were new and had not existed during the war. This disgraceful self-serving legal move was accepted without a murmur of protest. Bayer, which had been a part of IG Farben, had used concentration camp victims for its experiments and for testing new drugs but the company was allowed to keep all the profits from these experiments.By the mid-1960s Bayer had become ever richer and more powerful.And there seemed to be no shame about the past. Bayer actually set up a foundation to honour a Nazi called Fritz ter Meer on his 80th birthday and started the foundation off with a donation of two million deutschmarks. (It was not until 20 years later that Bayer changed the name of the foundation.) It did not seem to bother anyone that Herr ter Meer had overseen the building of IG Auschwitz and had been found guilty of war crimes (including genocide) and sentenced to just seven years imprisonment in 1948. Naturally, he did not serve the full sentence. Fritz ter Meer, one of the most evil Nazis, was released in 1950 and immediately re-joined the board of Bayer.That's the end of the detour.Will Bayer be making a coronavirus vaccine or treatment? Who knows. Would you want it if they did?The bottom line is that I cannot imagine why anyone who really cares for people and the planet would put any money into Monsanto or Bayer.Many investors try to avoid what they think of as `dirty' companies who do or have done bad things to people or the environment but this doesn't seem to bother Gates.Oddly enough I haven't been able to find any evidence that interviewers from the Guardian or the BBC have asked Gates whether he is comfortable with his investment in a company widely regarded as rather worse than wicked. Have I mentioned, by the way, that both the BBC and The Guardian are partners with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation – by that I mean that they have received money from the Foundation. That is, of course, the sanctimonious Guardian newspaper which was founded with the aid of money from slavery.Next, Gates has been funding scientists at Harvard who are trying to block out the sun's rays in an attempt to stop global warming.If you haven't heard of this before just stop and think for a moment.The scientists want to spray millions of tons of dust into the stratosphere to stop the sun's rays reaching the earth.One plan is that every day more than 800 large aircraft would lift millions of tons of chalk dust to a height of 12 miles above the Earth and then sprinkle the dust to stop the sun's rays getting through. Another plan is to send up hot air balloons to release powder into the atmosphere.There are, you won't be surprised to hear, a couple of problems with this.Obviously, the first is that no one has yet proved that global warming is taking place and is anything more than a natural phenomenon. Moreover, there are a lot of scientists who believe that we are heading into a phase where the planet is actually cooling. Is it really a coincidence that the Americans and the Chinese are busy building ice breakers? Would they do that if they thought the ice was all melting because the earth was getting hotter?And there are those who think that the Gates money and the scientists throwing powder into the sky could help create droughts, hurricanes and mass deaths. It seems fairly well agreed that altering the atmosphere to cool the planet could have unpredictable effects. In 1815 a volcanic eruption created crop shortages and disease outbreaks.Some might say, of course, that all this could be considered a bonus by a man who wants to reduce the world population.No one seems to have told him, by the way, that 800 large aircraft taking off every day and flying to 12 miles up, would require a good deal of aviation fuel. And what sort of dust are they planning to have sprayed? Well, some say calcium. But I have also heard talk that barium, alumina and strontium might be used. Whatever it is won't improve the quality of the air we breathe. Bottom line is that this seems to me to be a way to reduce the world's population rather than protect it – all in the guise of dealing with the climate change hoax.Next, Gates is funding scientists at a company called Oxitec who are genetically modifying mosquitoes. This project has received authority in the US and the genetically modified mosquitoes will be released in 2022. What could go wrong? I have no idea. I don't think anyone else does either. But I can think of a number of good reasons why this is breathtakingly dangerous. There is even talk of research into mosquito delivered vaccines.Gates is also helping to pay for researchers who are making breast milk from cultured mammary cells. This seems to me to be the ultimate in hubris. Why does Gates always want to interfere with nature? The female body produces the perfect breast milk. There is no need for substitutes. I remember that when attempts were made to introduce powdered milk into developing countries it was a disaster. Women were told to stop natural breast feeding and to follow the example set by Western women – and to use artificial milk. One problem was that the water used to rehydrate the milk was often badly polluted. And many babies died. If Gates wants to help women and babies he would surely do better to encourage natural breast feeding.You will by now see a pattern developing. Gates seems to me to be a mad scientist manqué . He seems to have massive faith in the idea that scientists can solve everything by interfering with nature – often using global warming as an excuse for his plans. His attitude seems to be that he knows much better than God how things should work and so he is going to use his money to pay for the improvements he thinks we need.Next, Gates is funding the developing of fake meat. This will be very handy when his other projects such as blocking the sunshine destroys traditional farming. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funds the Cornell Alliance for Science which supports the agrichemical industry. All this takes the power from small farmers and gives it to big chemical companies, in my opinion. If Gates's projects damage natural farming then his foundation's investments in laboratory food and artificial breast milk will doubtless prove to be extremely profitable.Gates, through his Foundation, has also invested in microchipped biomedical, track and trace and payment transaction systems such as cryptocurrencies. He seems to prefer digital payment systems to old fashioned cash and appears to be enthusiastic about ID systems and health passports, which he describes as being good for keeping an eye on people, making sure that they pay their taxes and have their Gates approved vaccinations.And I think it is fair to say that he is probably rather more enthusiastic about transhumanism than I am.And then there is the organisation known as ID2020 which is believed by some to show more than modest enthusiasm for mandatory vaccination programmes and mandatory track and tracing programmes. Since 2016 ID 2020 has promoted digital ID. The promoters or partners are Microsoft, the company which made Gates rich and GAVI, the alliance which links drug companies and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation – among others. One of the Gates Foundation's aims is, of course, investing in vaccine development and surveillance.`It's exciting,' they say, `to imagine a world where safe and secure digital identities are possible, providing everyone with an essential building block to every right and opportunity they deserve.'If I trusted Bill Gates I might be a trifle more enthusiastic. But I'd rather ask Donald Trump to hold my wallet than ask Bill Gates to hold my identity.Gates and or his Foundation or Microsoft have also invested in Onfido which is preparing technology to develop a phone app to scan faces so that people can work or travel.And I doubt if Gates would object to the suggestion that we all have medical certificates vaccinated into our bodies to prove that we have had the Covid 19 vaccination.What else is there?Well, there is the Pirbright Institute, where they study infectious diseases affecting farm animals. The Pirbright Institute is one of those curious hybrid organisations which is government funded but also a charity and, as you have probably guessed, its major stake holders include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. I was a little surprised to find Gates supporting an institute researching farm animals until I discovered that the Pirbright Institute had taken out a patent on a coronavirus with the European Patent Office. Big companies do that a lot these days and it seems institutes do, too. I wonder why anyone would want a patent on the coronavirus – though, of course, the patent might be useful for a vaccine.And there is something called CEPI – which is the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations. This was launched in Davos in 2017 by the governments of Norway and India, the Wellcome Trust, the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It has been given large chunks of taxpayer money from Germany, Australia and the UK.One of CEPI's goals is the development of platforms which can be used for rapid vaccine development against unknown pathogens. One of the board voting members is someone from the vaccine business unit at Takeda Pharmaceutical Company and the scientific advisory committee includes someone from Pfizer, of course. And CEPI and Glaxo Smith Kline have announced a collaboration, which is nice. And CEPI works in partnership with Imperial College, which is where Ferguson works and where work is being done on vaccines. You will remember Ferguson. It was his outrageously wrong prediction which led to the lockdowns and the social distancing and the desperate call for a vaccine to end all our misery. Oh and CEPI also works with GAVI which we will come to in part two of `Just a Little Prick'. GAVI has announced its enthusiasm for identifying and registering children around the world.Just how Gates, the world's leading expert on health, keeps up with all these organisations is beyond me. I wouldn't know whether I was at a CEPI meeting or a GAVI meeting or simply in the counting house counting out my money. But I expect our wonderful billionaire has lots of help. And there is always Mrs Gates, of course.Gates, through his Foundation, has bought support and influence everywhere but he has, in my view, left a trail of damage and concern.And all that brings us back to the vaccines, of course. No story about Gates would be complete without details of the vaccines – past and future.I will deal further with Mr and Mrs Gates' obsession with vaccines in the next part of this two part series. It's an obsession which seems to me to be distinctly unhealthy though perhaps not for Bill and Melinda. I don't think it is too healthy for people in developing countries and it is probably not going to be healthy for those of us in developed countries either.When asked when we would get back to normal after the coronavirus hoax, Gates said `when almost every person on the planet has been vaccinated against coronavirus'. He has colourfully described the vaccine for Covid 19 as the final solution. Inconveniently, many experts say that it may not be possible to make a vaccine. Some point out that making a vaccine often takes many years. And I am not the only doctor to worry that if a vaccine is made very quickly, with inadequate testing, then the global consequences could be absolutely catastrophic. Injecting 7 billion people with an experimental vaccine sounds to me like a potential recipe for a disaster previously unknown on the planet. In his less bombastic moments Gates realises this and has, therefore, insisted that there be indemnification for those making and distributing vaccines. In other words: if the vaccine kills you or destroys your brain then you're on your own. Don't expect any compensation. In the US, manufacturers and distributors have had immunity from February 2020. I'm not sure whether the immunity will cover doctors and nurses so that's something they might like to worry about. Patients should see my video entitled `Advice for anyone not wanting to be stuffed'. Or read the transcript on this website.Part Two of this series gets even more extraordinary. And watch it soon just in case it gets removed and mysteriously disappears.You Tube has announced that it will remove any video deemed to be in contravention of advice being given by the WHO (that must be tricky, given the WHO's ability to change its mind but there you go).And one of the biggest providers of money for the WHO is, of course, what's its name, oh yes, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.Still, if that happens you can always read the transcript on my website www.vernoncoleman.com – as long as that remains in place.Copyright Vernon Coleman July 3rd 2020Vernon Coleman's book on vaccines and vaccination is available on Amazon as a paperback and an eBook. The title is: Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying. Here's the proof.

also The UK needs someone like him to be challenging the DHSS in much more detail and severeity..

Mental health issues have risen severely now in the UK and World Wide and were doing so even before Covid...or early 2020.... and if you cannot work... and try to apply for benefits... you have to offer proof.... and supply a Doctors NOTE...
But you may only get Drs Notes for so long and then they ask you to go for a medical.. in which its been said from those who researched the process.. is being done by NON Medical personel...and they have become VERY strict now on what they will consider..

So many people who are unable to work end up havingto rely on food banks and having even further mental issues which could cost the system more in the long run... or maybe they just expect it to kill people off quicker..

Some people say that the DHS does NOT need to KNOW what your medical details are if you have given a Doctors Note in the 1st place..and that you should not need to be sent for medicals.... That only brought this in after the 2008 Crisis..
but prior to that Past generations did NOT get thru such treatment..

Having quite a large part of the population now having to go without benefits and to rely on Food banks should NOT be acceptable in the year 2020...

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This man is spot on, and funny with it.

Dr Vernon Coleman.

Kevin

Quote from: kevin on July 22, 2020, 07:03:19 PM
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/index.htm

You have been lied to on a massive scale, do You still buy their lies??????

If so , please put on Your zoro masks and hide away in fear.

This is WW3 , not with guns, but with technology.

Kevin

Part 2 of the Bill Gates article...

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Just a Little Prick (Part 2)

Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA




Welcome to part two of `Just a Little Prick', the unauthorised Bill Gates story. Obviously, the term `little prick' refers to what happens when you have an injection and is naturally in no way meant in a pejorative way. Heaven forbid. If I were to be rude about Mr Gates his subsidised friends at The Guardian and the BBC would doubtless need to be revived with smelling salts.

In the first episode of `Just a Little Prick', I dealt with a few of Mr Gates's connections, aspirations and investments. But I made it clear that he and his wife seem to have one first love: vaccines.

Some people love cats, mountain climbing or horse racing. But Bill and Melinda Gates love vaccines. They yearn to inject everyone and to them vaccines appear to be the eighth wonder of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if they spent their honeymoon watching vaccines being made or watching vaccinations being given to tiny African children. I bet they spend their evenings drooling over vials of vaccines. And at Christmas they probably give each other unusual vaccines they've found.

Unravelling the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and its links with the world of vaccines and vaccinations has taken weeks and given me a headache. Thank heavens there isn't yet a vaccine for headaches.

Among the many partnerships and so on which the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has developed in recent years there is one with an organisation called GAVI.

Now GAVI is rather odd in that it is a partnership between the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Health Organisation (which itself is very well financed by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) and the World Bank and a variety of other bodies.

So, for example, GAVI also has close and loving partnerships with what I think are some of the world's biggest, dirtiest, most disreputable multinational drug companies including GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer.

Perhaps not surprisingly, the organisation `Doctors Without Borders' has I think criticised GAVI, alleging that large multinational drug companies working with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation put high mark ups on their prices and that GAVI spends oodles of money subsidising large companies. One of GAVI's stated aims seems to be to create a healthy market for vaccines.

You will probably not be surprised to hear that Gates has close links with a number of multinational drug companies but you may, or may not, be surprised to hear that he doesn't seem to me to be terribly fussy about the company he keeps. On the other hand it would I suppose be quite difficult to find a drug company partner that didn't have a reputation that would make Al Capone blush with shame. If you get into bed with a drug company you have to be prepared to wake up in the morning with a bit of scratching and itching and so on.

In a previous video entitled `Would You Trust These People with Your Life? I detailed some of the bad things that GSK has done over recent years and I pointed out that if it were a human being GSK would be described as a recidivist. It would probably have regular appointments with a parole officer.

GSK is one of the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies and in my view if it made teaspoons you'd need to be a special sort of person to buy a teaspoon from them.

In 2014, for example, GSK was fined $490 million dollars by China after a Chinese court found it guilty of bribery. The court gave GSK's former head of Chinese operations a suspended prison sentence and they gave suspended prison sentences to other executives too.

Sadly, that misadventure in China wasn't GSK's only little `Oh dear, whoops, how did that happen?' mistake. Here are some others.

In 2009 in Canada, a five-year-old girl died five days after an H1N1 flu shot and her parents sued GSK for $4.2 million. The parents' lawyer alleged that the drug was brought out quickly and without proper testing as the federal government exerted intense pressure on Canadians to get immunised.

In 2010 GSK paid out $1.14 billion because of claims over a drug called Paxil. And they settled lawsuits over a drug called Avandia for $500 million.

In 2011 GSK paid $250 million to settle 5,500 death and injury claims and set aside $6.4 billion for future lawsuits and settlements in respect of the drug Avandia.

And then there are the accusations of fraud, misbranding and failure to report safety data.

In 2012, GSK pleaded guilty to federal criminal offences including misbranding of two antidepressants and failure to report safety data about a drug for diabetes to the FDA in America. The company admitted to illegally promoting Paxil for the treatment of depression in children and agreed to pay a fine of $3 billion. GSK also reached a related civil settlement with the US Justice Department. The $3 billion fine also included the civil penalties for improper marketing of half a dozen other drugs.

There's more interesting stuff about GSK on my video entitled `Would you trust these people with your life?'

Oh, and there are a couple of other things you should know about GSK.

First, GSK is one of the top earning vaccine companies in the world. And in 2010 there were reports of narcolepsy occurring in Sweden and Finland among children who had the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. It is reported that not all the safety problems were made public.

In Ireland, the Irish Government kept inviting people to get vaccinated even when it was clear that the pandemic was on the wane and it was nowhere near the catastrophe portrayed by influenza researchers, governments, industry and the media. One member of the Irish parliament, told the Irish Prime Minister. `The Health Service Executive decided to purchase Pandemrix and continued to distribute it even after they knew it was dangerous and untested.'

It is perhaps worth noting that Professor Neil Ferguson, the Eddie the Eagle of mathematical modelling though perhaps without the innocent and patriotic charm, had predicted that the swine flu could lead to 65,000 deaths in the UK alone. In the end, the swine flu killed 457 people and had a death rate of just 0.026 per cent of those infected. Just another of Ferguson's cock ups. Cock ups seem to be a speciality of his in more ways than one.

Second, Sir Patrick Vallance, is the Chief Scientific Adviser in the United Kingdom and, I suspect, a key figure in dealing with the coronavirus in the UK and the plans for a vaccine. Vallance worked for GSK between 2006 and 2018. By the time he left GSK he was a member of the board and the corporate executive team. Fines and so on which I have listed took place while Vallance was working as a senior figure at GSK.

As I say, you can find out lots more exciting stuff about GSK and about Astra Zeneca in my video entitled `Would You Trust These People With Your Life?' If the video disappears, you can, as always find the transcript on my website www.vernoncoleman.com

Oh, and there's one more thing I nearly forgot to mention. Glaxo Smith Kline was fined £37.6 million for cheating the National Health Service. I wonder what Vallance thought about that.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation also has a relationship with Pfizer and to be honest with you, Pfizer's record isn't anything you would want to boast about. If you worked there you'd keep quiet about it I think and say you worked for the tax people or robbed banks for living.

So, for example, in the UK, Pfizer was fined £84.2 million for overcharging the NHS by 2,600% and in the US Pfizer was hit with a $2.3 billion fine for mis-promoting medicines and paying kickbacks to doctors.

You might think that a foundation wanting to have a clean reputation might avoid relationships with companies like those.

But Bill Gates doesn't seem to mind about all these little peccadillos; the cheating and the deceiving and so on. And in a way why should he? He has a team of PR people willing and able to make sure that his halo is constantly being repaired and polished and I doubt if any of his many press and broadcasting partners will want to damage their financially advantageous relationship by mentioning anything which might caught embarrassment. After all, we must not forget that the Foundation he shares with Melinda, Mrs Gates, seems to me to have investments with bought much of the world's media; doling out fairly huge chunks of cash to no doubt grateful partners. Did I remember to mention that those two sanctimonious organisations the BBC and The Guardian are partners with the Gates Foundation?

It cannot be that Gates isn't aware of the problems associated with vaccination because his own foundation has allegedly had its own little peccadilloes to think about. I've described some of those controversies in other videos.

In India there was trouble over a Gates funded vaccine programme. A government investigation claimed the programme, an observational study, violated the human rights of those being injected and failed to report properly adverse effects. That, as we have seen, is not entirely unusual drug company practice. A parliamentary investigation concluded that the Gates funded Program for Appropriate Technology in Health had been engaged in a scheme to help ensure `healthy markets' for GlaxoSmithKline and Merck (another drug company).

An eminent Indian editor said `it is shocking to see how an American organisation used surreptitious methods to establish itself in India. Another complaint was that Indians were used as guinea pigs.

In Africa a meningitis vaccine project, funded by Gates, led to reports of up to 500 children allegedly suffering seizures and convulsions and becoming paralysed.

And back in India it was reported that over 490,000 people developed paralysis as a result of the polio vaccine that was given. Remarkably and horrifyingly it was claimed that 80% of polio cases were derived from the vaccine.

There are complaints that the Gates Foundation has taken over public health for the benefit of big drug companies. The links between the Gates Foundation and other organisations and the pharmaceutical giants seem never ending.

Gates has long argued that the world is overpopulated and to help further this end the Gates Foundation is said to have funded Marie Stopes, an organisation, which performs over three million abortions a year and has also worked with a charity called Gynuity which is experimenting with a second trimester abortion trial in Africa.

But it is vaccines which seem to interest Gates most and despite all the known hazaards the enthusiastic Gates remains gungho about vaccines. He must know that there are very real dangers with vaccines but curiously it doesn't seem to worry him. I wonder if he really has any idea what he is talking about when he discusses vaccines. There seems to me to be little awareness of the risk-benefit ratio.

For example, I have seen an interview in which he agrees that if 7 billion people are vaccinated against the coronavirus there could be 700,000 people damaged by the virus. There could of course be many deaths but I don't think Mr Gates likes to talk about that scenario.

He says that there could be 700,000 people with side effects and he dismisses this as though he is talking a bit of soreness or a slight rash.

Not necessarily so, Mr Gates. I've been studying and writing about vaccines for 50 years and the side effects from vaccination are often life changing. It is perfectly possible, for example, that there could be 700,000 people with severe brain damage after the first tranche of the vaccination programme has been completed.

I wonder if Gates has any idea what a brain damaged person looks like; how devastating it is not just for them but for their relatives.

And of course the Covid 19 disease, the subject of the Gates determination for a global vaccine, has, as I keep reminding everyone, killed far, far less than the ordinary flu can kill in the same sort of time period.

What is all this about? Who is doing what for why and who is profiting and how?

Well, the drug companies are making money. Loads of it. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is getting more control over global healthcare. And Bill and Melinda are becoming ever more powerful and ever more able to pursue whatever other goals and agendas may be dear to them. And wherever they go they are treated like royalty. And Bill Gates himself is said to be richer now than he was a decade ago. Indeed, during the decade of vaccines promoted by Gates, his personal worth is said to have doubled to over $100 billion.

The bottom line, however, is that I can't help suspecting that if Gates hadn't made so much money and hadn't doled so much of it out to buy influence, everyone would laugh at him, ignore him or dismiss him as a nutter. Is there a hidden agenda? How much does Gates' fear about overpopulation influence what he does? And how much does that family interest in eugenics affect the aims of the Gates Foundation. Many rich people do wonderful things with their money – but they do it without trying to change the world and without wanting to alter the way people live.

Although Gates is a university drop out with no more medical degrees than your fridge he is regarded as a saviour and his views on vaccination are treated as though they had been carved in stone and handed down from on high. What Gates wants is what we get. It seems to me that Gates is ignorant, deluded, arrogant and enormously dangerous. In my view, he is doing, and will do, infinitely more harm than good.

And the other half of this strange joke is that whereas although I am medically trained and have studied vaccines and vaccination for half a century my questioning, cautious view, asking only for more medical or scientific evidence to be produced in support of the claims which are made, is regarded as unacceptable and I am the one libelled, demonised and dismissed as a nutter, targeted by trolls, demonised as too questioning and regarded as too dangerous to be allowed onto Facebook lest I terrify the `community' with too many truths.

Putting aside my scepticism and doubts about vaccination (and my conviction, after much research, that vaccines are neither as safe nor as effective, as we are assured by their ignorant supporters) I am deeply concerned about the safety of any coronavirus vaccine. I feel that anyone who accepts a coronavirus vaccine as proposed or supported by Bill Gates or his Foundation should perhaps be placed in protective care for their own protection. I pray that no parents will allow their children to be given a vaccine that has been hastily produced. Those who believe in vaccination should demand that any vaccines are thoroughly tested for safety and efficacy – and that all test results be made public.

Still, there is a bright side to all this.

When the inevitable biopic of Gates' life is made I hope they will use my title `Just a little prick'. It seems so suitable for a man who appears to be dedicated to vaccinating the world.

Copyright Vernon Coleman July 3rd 2020

Vernon Coleman's book on vaccines and vaccination is available on Amazon as a paperback and an eBook. It is called Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying. Here's the proof.

And his novel The Truth Kills tells the story of a middle aged GP and a young trainee doctor who questions vaccination.

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They Want to Kill 6 Billion of Us – Here's How They'll Do It

Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA




There are people around who believe that if we all wear masks, obey the social distancing laws and become true slaves to the system, then everything will be back to normal by Christmas at the latest.

In the last 24 hours I have read, and been dismayed by, three articles by writers who believe that if we all behave properly, and do exactly as we are told to do, the coronavirus will slink off and all will be well with everyone back at work, the economy beginning to boom and the world well on its way to a recovery. There are even some who were shocked at the suggestion that taxes will rise dramatically in the next 12 months or so. Where do these people think the money came from – the money that an ex Goldman Sachs, currently the UK Chancellor, was throwing around with such gay abandon.

Of course, they add as a rider, we won't be able to forget about social distancing, and we may have to keep on our masks until the vaccine is ready, but everything will be normal apart from that.

I wonder what these people have inside their skulls. Porridge? Those little white polystyrene balls that are used for packaging? Bubble wrap?

They certainly don't have brains.

The people now planning to rule the world, a group of billionaires and would-be billionaires who I will, for ease, refer to as the enemy, have decided that there are too many people in the world and that the earth would be more comfortable for them if the total were reduced to around 500,000,000.

Since the current population is around 7 billion that means that at least 6 billion of us are surplus to requirements, unnecessary, not wanted on voyage. Since their ambition has a convincingly eugenic flavour they will presumably want to get rid of the weak and the poor and the elderly and the frail.

So how are they going to do that?

Well, the ignorant, scare mongering climate change nutters have done some of their work for those who want us dead. The brainwashed children and idiots who believe in man-made global warming are helping the enemy enormously. Cutting back on our use of oil and gas will kill hundreds of millions who will die of hunger and cold.

And I have no doubt that the enemy will manage another plandemic.

The abominable Gates and his wife have already said that people will pay attention when the next pandemic arrives. And I thought they both smirked very knowingly when Bill made this prediction.

It wouldn't be difficult.

They could just say that the coronavirus which caused Covid-19 had mutated. Or they could blame a pig virus or a cuckoo virus or maybe a virus from the Gates family – something unpleasant.

It wouldn't really need to be something too nasty. After all, a really bad virus might kill off some of the billionaires.

I rather suspect that we are going to have more alleged virus health calamities coming up. If it isn't the coronavirus in a pre-ordained second wave it will be something else. If they can make up one crisis then they can, and will, make up many more.

All it needs is good marketing, and organisations like the BBC will provide all the myths and fake news that the enemy will need.

The BBC, The Guardian and the Daily Mail could turn tapioca into a deadly threat.

Of course, the plan to reduce the global population is already doing well.

The enemy has got everyone social distancing. And that is known to cause illness and to kill people. The CIA reckon that social distancing is one of the most powerful weapons there is for controlling large numbers of people.

They managed to murder huge numbers in the care homes and they have killed vast numbers of the sick by closing down hospitals for absolutely no good reason.

They put everyone under house arrest – and isolation damages the immune system. Prisoners of War have confirmed that isolation does more damage than physical torture. Stress and anxiety affect the immune system too.

The masks will kill quite a few people too. It's well known that they reduce blood oxygen levels, and those with respiratory and cardiac disorders will die. It's true that surgeons wear masks but the circumstances are entirely different. Women's movement enthusiasts used to burn their bras. Perhaps, we should burn our masks – in an environmentally acceptable way, of course.

Even the sanitising gel they insist we use a dozen times a day will kill some people. (If you haven't seen it, watch my video on hand sanitisers. Or read the script on this website.)

And then there is the cold in the winter months. They are stopping us using gas and there are going to be electricity outages. Many will freeze to death in the winter months.

But I think their biggest weapon is food.

That's how they are going to bring the population crashing right down.

Food shortages are coming and the cost of food is going to rise even faster than it has been doing. And it isn't because of global warming or whatever other lies they tell you – it is, however, a side effect of the coronavirus hoax.

All around the world food is in short supply. The price of the world's most important staple food – rice – has risen by 70%. Food prices in the US have recently seen a historic jump and are, I believe, destined to stay high and go higher. Countries which have good food production are halting their exports. Vietnam, for example, has stopped exporting because they need their food supplies at home. And you cannot blame them. Some authorities condemn it as nationalism but all countries, all villages, all homes would do much the same.

And it is the managed over-reaction to a virus known to be no more dangerous than the flu that is causing the problem – and that will result in millions of deaths to add to the millions who are going to die as a result of the lockdowns.

The global death rate because of the food shortage is going to be measured in hundreds of millions – and eventually in billions. Africa and Asia are going to see the worst levels of starvation ever seen. I fear that those countries which have some grain will flog it to America – despite massive starvation. Black lives matter protestors, who have been manipulated by professionals, would be wise to forget about Cecil Rhodes's statue, and where they'd like to see it placed, and concentrate instead on helping Africans who are going to be subjected to the worst genocide in history.

So, how is the coronavirus scandal responsible for the food shortages that are coming?

That's easy to explain.

Processing plants and distribution centres all around the world have been deliberately severely disrupted by the massive over-reaction to this fairly ordinary virus.

Around the world more and more testing is being done. And although the tests are about as trustworthy as Gates, Clinton and Soros – your local purveyors of fear and death – they are treated with undeserved reverence. Curiously, it seems to me that farms and food distribution centres are being tested more than, say, civil servants or tax officials. This is odd because the chances of the virus being carried on food are roughly the same as the chance that the moon is made of cheese.

And so if one worker on a farm or in a warehouse falls ill with flu like symptoms then the authorities will close down that farm or the warehouse. Delivery systems have been massively affected as drivers are sent home for two weeks and all their colleagues sent home for two weeks too.

As a result, huge crops of vegetables and fruit are being ploughed into the ground. Millions of animals are being slaughtered and then buried or burnt because the supply chains have been shut down. America, almost unbelievably, has been importing beef because of the shortages.

The world lockdown, and the mass house arrests that were engineered to keep us all subservient, mean that thousands of farmers cannot get their crops picked. Fruit in particular is likely to rot in the fields, and tankers full of milk are being poured away. Controls on transport have meant that it has been difficult to move food from where there is a glut to where there is a dearth. It would have been easy for governments to insist that furloughed workers should help pick the crops but they didn't do so. And why would they? The plan is to eradicate the poor and the weak.

And the unsurprising consequence of all this is that there are going to be massive shortages of fruit and vegetables, and prices are going to rocket.

In the UK, the most toxic of the Remainers, the fascist EU loving lunatics, bigoted, soaked in their own prejudices and consumed by ignorance, will blame Brexit for the shortages. But then, if they develop a bald spot or lose their keys they blame Brexit.

In the US, the media will doubtless blame Trump for the food shortages.

Sadly for them all, the shortages will be global.

All around the world there will be a shortage of almost all foods.

This isn't the sort of fear-porn favoured by irresponsible main stream media giants such as the EU and Gates supported BBC.

This is real.

Other factors are going to ensure that the shortage just gets worse.

If and when the economy is allowed to stutter into action again, the price of oil will doubtless eventually rise because the existing supplies are diminishing rapidly and most oil companies have pretty well given up exploration.

The rising price of oil will mean that farming and transportation costs will rise and that will push up the price of food still further.

I tell you this not to scare you but because when you know something is happening you can do something about it.

You may think it is worthwhile building up your stocks of long-dated food staples such as rice and pasta. Dried and tinned foods which have long dates are good. As you eat your stocks, replace them with more.

Governments tell us not to store stuff but the military don't buy bullets the day they need them, do they? If you have a garden and can grow your favourite vegetables or fruit that's probably a good idea but watch that no one climbs over your fence and steals them. I don't recommend having an allotment – the chances of you being able to harvest your own crops are too remote because they will be stolen. It might also be a good idea to stock up on vitamin and mineral supplements if you usually take them.

I've always been a bit of contrarian, though I don't suppose anyone would notice, and I'm convinced that the time to panic buy is when there is no panic.

I hope the advice here will help you and your family to have a better chance to be strong and healthy. Countries look after themselves and we all need to do so. It isn't selfish. It's survival. If you buy food you will eat anyway, and you store it carefully, what have you got to lose? If I'm wrong and there is no enemy and there are no food shortages then you can always eat what you're stored.

If and when your government finally warns you of this problem it will be far too late.

Remember: you should stockpile food now – don't wait for the panic

Copyright Vernon Coleman July 17th 2020

Vernon Coleman's book Food for Thought is available as a paperback and an eBook. His book A Bigger Problem than Climate Change is also available as a paperback and an eBook.

I can only refer to things that I have come across and some other people opinions who at least at one time I thought that I trusted their opinions on...

I know you say you do not trust Alex Jones opinions very Much. or thats my impression from many of your past replies / posts in relations to the related discussions we have had..

I cannot really 100% ever prove anything...I dont think any of us ever can...
But maybe my only option to offer at the moment is what Dr Vernon Coleman refers to...

but I know you will say one Drs View will only be one in a 100 other views..

But if he could not convince you... then I dont know who could ...
see the post kevin made by Dr Vernon Coleman..

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/index.htm

Having a bit of a further look at some of Dr Colemans comments...

and I no longer fully believe everything that Alex Jones says...

I am rather surprised to see the Dr ref in one of his Articles..
As Much as I think it could be possible.. to make a ref to such a specific figure.. I am not sure he should be trying to suggest that...

and yes... Even this Doctor has book books that he can sell that relate to many of his articles.. and I dont think just on medical issues...

So ALSO If one thinks people like Alex Jones could be questionable in a negative way or for selling his products... Some may also question such Doctors..!

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They Want to Kill 6 Billion of Us – Here's How They'll Do It.
Dr Vernon Coleman MB ChB DSc FRSA.

The people now planning to rule the world, a group of billionaires and would-be billionaires who I will, for ease, refer to as the enemy, have decided that there are too many people in the world and that the earth would be more comfortable for them if the total were reduced to around 500,000,000.

Quote from: ArMaP on July 23, 2020, 02:39:56 AM
As usual I start by asking "why"? Why would "they" do that?
In Portugal we already have a registration of the vaccines we take.
They would have to change the Portuguese constitution for that to happen here, as it does not allow for forced medial procedures.
Because of the number of people that need intensive care treatment, as it's easy for the health system to be flooded with CoViD-19 cases, like what happened in Spain and Italy.
If a virus creates immunity in infected persons then a vaccine is the best way to stop it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeVf8Bq1knk

Polly saint george, talking of covid torture .

Kevin

Looks familar on Page 4 bottom of the page..« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2020, 05:43:58 AM »

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.msg151231#msg151231

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
He says quite a few things that Alex Jones relates to.... that the Govt want to kill us off...

And that's where that idea fails, as governments get their money and power from the people, with less people they would fail, so why would they want to kill the source of their power?

QuoteThen I just came across an article from him on Bill Gates...

I read the first 10 lines or so, but it has so many wrong things that I stopped reading.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 03:41:50 PM
Looks familar on Page 4 bottom of the page..« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2020, 05:43:58 AM »

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11517.msg151231#msg151231

That's because it's the same video.

Posting it twice doesn't make it true.  :P

I see your logic in ref to why would they want to Kill us off if they lose out on man or  human power..

But also I am not convinced Money is any longer much of a issue or  concern to them....
Those at the top may  have more than 95%/ maybe even 99% of us maybe combined - already...from some sources I have come across.

One :  They have on and off ,so many times reduced employment opportunities.. or created an environment for people to take low paid jobs in which often they do not earn enough to live in a more modern economy even today in 2020..

Two : They have much more technology... Do they need all the humans anymore ?  Robots have already taken over  in many cases to quite a large scale .. and there is suggestions of Cyborgs for the future...That to me is also a high part reality.

We could just be in a further parts a NWO type experimental plan... in which they are toying with us...
and gradually making further problems for us and putting us under more and more control... to what ever next step that they maybe aiming for... Something evils like that Hitler would have maybe done.

Three... if they concerned about the Earth and its environment... killing off a large % of us...would help their cause

The more people in the World the more problems that will be..

I suspect also they may now only really want higher level  intelligent people... in which they could aim to cut down 50 % of the population who maybe under average IQ range...

I have not read Colemans other information as yet...but from parts its not looking a hopefull / promising  as I first thought..

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
And that's where that idea fails, as governments get their money and power from the people, with less people they would fail, so why would they want to kill the source of their power?
I read the first 10 lines or so, but it has so many wrong things that I stopped reading.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 05:06:43 PM
But also I am not convinced Money is any longer much of a issue or  concern to them....
Those at the top may  have more than 95%/ maybe even 99% of us maybe combined - already...from some sources I have come across.

If it's not money then it could be power, so if they do not have anyone to boss around they would have nothing to do. What do you think gives more pleasure to a power mad person, ordering around 10 people or 10 million?

QuoteTwo : They have much more technology... Do they need all the humans anymore ?  Robots have already taken over  in many cases to quite a large scale .. and there is suggestions of Cyborgs for the future...That to me is also a high part reality.

There's no fun in ordering around a robot. :)
And robots do not do most of people's work, not by far.

QuoteThree... if they concerned about the Earth and its environment... killing off a large % of us...would help their cause

No, correcting the problems would help their cause without the side effect of not having people to do their work.

QuoteThe more people in the World the more problems that will be..

That's why some people like Bill Gates are promoting better living conditions for the poor countries, as has been noticed for a long time that better conditions result in lower birth rates.

QuoteI suspect also they may now only really want higher level  intelligent people... in which they could aim to cut down 50 % of the population who maybe under average IQ range...

That would be silly, as there's no way of knowing who has a higher IQ without making a test, besides the fact that a high IQ may be useless in real life.

QuoteI have not read Colemans other information as yet...but from parts its not looking a hopefull / promising  as I first thought..

He just looks like someone that gives too much importance to his own ideas, based on bad information, so I will not give much importance to what he says.

I suppose thru out history... Is always been Power that gave those in control Money etc or more Freedom...
where as those opposed were killed or became slaves..

In todays society at least in the 1st World.. we are led to believe over all slavery does not exist..
But some people suggest being paid a pitence of a wage from a Job just to survive or make a living for 40 to 50 years..
that its just another partal slave like existance solution... but in reality we do not have that much freedom...

Although Hitler was opposed to the Jews and wanted to eliminate them.... why do you you think he wanted to Kill them... and not just use them as slaves ?  and could not that same mentality be being applied now (Maybe thru other reasons..not just ones religion or race..)

How anyone would want to manipulate millions of people is beyond me or my thought process / mental acceptance ?
it seem so demanding and time consuming... I am sure have MANY better things to want to consider in life rather than that as a hobby or job ??? ???

But maybe thats the way a set % of the population or their personalities  are ? ie that the severely Contolling / Bullying type.


Overall I am led to believe those with higher IQs tend to lead us, be it at Work or by Govt..
The strong clever ones are more likely to be able to make it in their own business.. one way or another if they opt to do so...that can offer them earning more money and lead to better lifes and more freedom..for them and their families..

Of course they have a very good idea of our IQ levels... you do IQ test at School ! they test it at age 11.. at least in the UK...and may do so more so today at other earier stages thru out childrens lifes today..

I dont think ones score.. is necessarily accurate.. as there many factors involved... from social background, parents / family size /ages , help.. famiy financial status... time given thru out life from the right sources..

and as one gets older and they more aware... I do believe one can improve ones IQ score... at least partly or for so long in there life.. more so if they are prepared to do the work and put the time in to improve it.. especialy today as they have maybe a lot more self help type books on doing such things on hw to do tests etc....

BUT if Alex Jones is Right.. he claims our Diets are designed to reduce our IQ... deliberately and those in Power want us controlled to a certain level...

As in my Opinion this seems what Life is all about... or to do with Mental Strength / personality maybe more than Physical strength in todays more moderns technology type society...where as in the past  physical strength was the major factor for survival...

It also be restriced by biological brain size developement....that you cannot alter...such as head width size..
or certain parts of the head brain in how that develop...

There are theories about persons head width size  with for some reason as to how wider heads tend to remember thing better over all..or that the distance between ones eyes....your frontal lobes..may have more capacity .who tend to be more leader types.. ie supervisors, manager types..... is this just due to having been brought up on a good diet or of ones mother breast size and if she milk feeds  her children...?  :) if breast or bottle fed ..some may suggest breat fed is better....or is..luck of the draw ...

Does having a bigger head overall suggest a larger brain capacity / relative to their body size?  (On average) It dont always suggest that they any cleverer than smaller headed person in some smaller head people can be very clever by far...

but over all in Life people seem to be more of the leader / controllers...types..

and some are more visual and some audial/ verbally or caring type natured / personality orientated...so it is all rather complex...


Ok Bill Gates aganda may appear to have alter conditions for Africans in certain ways BUT DO NOT FORGET he is also involving Population Control.... and thats one of the main Issues people who have against him or his agenda as its suggested he aims to do this to the rest of the world...or even  1st world countries ..


In ref to Vernon Coleman... I think he has still touched on certain topics that maybe be of further interest that maybe worth checking out further...at least for now....

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 05:26:06 PM
If it's not money then it could be power, so if they do not have anyone to boss around they would have nothing to do. What do you think gives more pleasure to a power mad person, ordering around 10 people or 10 million?
There's no fun in ordering around a robot. :)
And robots do not do most of people's work, not by far.
No, correcting the problems would help their cause without the side effect of not having people to do their work.
That's why some people like Bill Gates are promoting better living conditions for the poor countries, as has been noticed for a long time that better conditions result in lower birth rates.
That would be silly, as there's no way of knowing who has a higher IQ without making a test, besides the fact that a high IQ may be useless in real life.
He just looks like someone that gives too much importance to his own ideas, based on bad information, so I will not give much importance to what he says.

No doubt there are many various situations that people face...

but sometimes we may become aware of some suggestion and maybe assocaite it with something that later occurs and wonder if its related...

I still say its VERY hard to know to do or think about certain situations in to what you may think you come to know or become aware about and if you should tell certain people about it if you thin its a threat to them..

Its the same with what Shasta says below..

you ask what if you get it wrong ! or was misinformed...but also what if you were right !

something things are just too hard to feel you know in enough valid detail.

Quote from: ArMaP on July 23, 2020, 02:09:54 PM
My late boss, besides being a diabetic, was a healthy man, and because he was a diabetic he had regular exams. On November 2016 he started complaining about pain in one leg and in the back. In January, after many exams, they found out that he had cancer, spread all over his body, and the pain came from the fact that the bones were already affected. He died in February.

This is just to show that dying of cancer in six months is not that rare, people die of cancer in less than that.

Shasta

QuoteIf they come up with a proven vaccine, I will probably take it.  My grandchildren have drilled it into my head that I'm not allowed to die, so if I contracted COVID and died because I didn't get vaccinated, they would probably hold a seance to bring back my spirit and yell at me.

Astr0144,

Are You wearing Your mask?

Are You complying?

Technocracy ( technocrazy) is about to devour You.

Will You take the mandatory vaccine?

Will You comply?

This is a global panic demic, the agenda is technocracy control.

Will You comply to becoming a thing?

There will be no governments or politicians.

The virus is a cover, the BLM movement a distraction.

The police are today warning people that if they don't wear their masks they will be fined, and the fine will increase each time they don't wear a mask, then it will be the vaccine where You will be fined if You don't COMPLY and have it, You will be confined and isolated.

This isn't a test run, this is a global take over, China has been a test run, to establish technocracy, the eugenics shites will sterilise anyone deemed sub standerd.

The useless eaters will be culled.

WE THE PEOPLE will be replaced.

Kevin

Kev,

I asked similar question to you, but not sure I got a clear answer.....

So far I have not worn one... but do fear what could be going in the way as you describe...and certainly do not count it out...

BUT the way things have gone so far and seeing how masses of people at ALL levels... are having to go along with it...
there plan and power abilities are too strong a force for any individual to oppose...

I am very well aware of how Govts and Police can increase fines.... having seen egs of some going from 35 GBP to over 500 GBPs  or maybe even over 1000 GBP or more  for those who continued to not pay...even for very simple parking fines.. or not placing a parking permit in ones car window screen...

Even Councils who work in relation to Govts act for them... and so do the Police..

In the USA if things get out of hand... Those with Guns may back up in large groups...people who become under attack from the system..to aid to back them up...but in the UK we dont have this in as a more obvious way...

What we are seeing is no doubt a major concern...
Authorities and Police in this Country now can be or are are very disturbingly...frightening....

and to top it off I  would not count out a major stock market collapse...that will create even more devisation...

so far we have been VERY lucky the markets recovered....but I am doubtful that will continue if the markets dont break to newer highs than those made In February 2020 for the USA Inices like the Dow Jones / S&P500 index...
(The US markets generally dictate what the other countries markets do)


Can I ask what you would advise ? in terms of should we comply or not ? or wear a mask...
Ways around it is to shop online if you can...as one eg....
but some shops I believe are still allowing non mask wearers in.
and in certain cases you probably will get away with it...
the first month we need to try to pre prepaired as best you could for the next month or so...and wait to see how start to go...and if things change for the better or get even worse...

Those who oppose or disbelieve all this I am sure will do what they can to try to find ways around the isses but.. it only maybe a matter of so much time..

lastly wearing a mask for short periods is not as yet the end of ones world... but thats not to say its not a start to it..

What do you make of the BLM ?

Do you see it as a George Sorus Plan as Alex Jones has suggested ? or something else ?
and what do you see their aim.. and the big question   WHY ?

whats it all about ?
Is it a race take over  for them to try to take white Women...or interracially mix which we are now seeing one quite a large scale....they seem to be able to attract white Women...but those women risk deleting there own race..

or just an equal rights for jobs etc ?
are they trying to reduce the White male race ?

In ref to taking vaccines... Its not something I would like to consider....

what happens later on if and when they apply it... and if you then get autjorities and group masses investigating individuals or snooping to find out if one has had there dose...

then life will seem an utter nightmare and may come to an end...

is there any way out on Prison Planet ?   Are there any places left on Earth worth trying to disappear to whee you wont be pestered or good Aliens out there to take us elsewhere ?


Listening further to that Vernon Coleman video... he does seem to be making some questionable points..
and coming from a Doctor ...who you would believe quite highly knowledgable than most...again those who question what going on...makes you further wonder..

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Astr0144,

Are You wearing Your mask?

Are You complying?

Technocracy ( technocrazy) is about to devour You.

Will You take the mandatory vaccine?

Will You comply?

This is a global panic demic, the agenda is technocracy control.

Will You comply to becoming a thing?

There will be no governments or politicians.

The virus is a cover, the BLM movement a distraction.

The police are today warning people that if they don't wear their masks they will be fined, and the fine will increase each time they don't wear a mask, then it will be the vaccine where You will be fined if You don't COMPLY and have it, You will be confined and isolated.

This isn't a test run, this is a global take over, China has been a test run, to establish technocracy, the eugenics shites will sterilise anyone deemed sub standerd.

The useless eaters will be culled.

WE THE PEOPLE will be replaced.

Kevin

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 05:58:02 PM
Although Hitler was opposed to the Jews and wanted to eliminate them.... why do you you think he wanted to Kill them... and not just use them as slaves ?  and could not that same mentality be being applied now (Maybe thru other reasons..not just ones religion or race..)

Hitler and the Nazis wanted, like many other people in Germany and in other European countries, get rid of the Jews because they saw in them a kind of a state within the state, and they thought they had too much power, that came to them through the money they handled, as many Jews were bankers, something that came from the Middle Ages, when Christians thought that it was bad for Christians to own banks, letting that work for the Jews, which didn't have that problem in their religion.

One of the ideas was to remove all Jews from Germany and send them to some African country, but they finally decided that it was easier (and probably cheaper) to just kill them, along with other undesirables like Gypsies and homosexuals.

QuoteHow anyone would want to manipulate millions of people is beyond me or my thought process / mental acceptance ?
it seem so demanding and time consuming... I am sure have MANY better things to want to consider in life rather than that as a hobby or job ??? ???

That's the whole idea behind the existence of some kind of world government that controls everything and everyone.

QuoteOverall I am led to believe those with higher IQs tend to lead us, be it at Work or by Govt..
The strong clever ones are more likely to be able to make it in their own business.. one way or another if they opt to do so...that can offer them earning more money and lead to better lifes and more freedom..for them and their families..

That's wrong, high IQs are not related to being leaders, high IQs go relatively unnoticed, as people do not have (usually) opportunities to use it. Also, a higher IQ doesn't mean that person is more capable of solving problem in real life, IQ measuring is subjective.

QuoteOf course they have a very good idea of our IQ levels... you do IQ test at School ! they test it at age 11.. at least in the UK...and may do so more so today at other earier stages thru out childrens lifes today..

I didn't know that, we don't do them in Portugal (as far as I know). Also, that would be useless, as an high IQ in children do not translate to a high IQ in adult.

QuoteI dont think ones score.. is necessarily accurate.. as there many factors involved... from social background, parents / family size /ages , help.. famiy financial status... time given thru out life from the right sources..

Mostly, IQ tests are useless in real life.

QuoteBUT if Alex Jones is Right.. he claims our Diets are designed to reduce our IQ... deliberately and those in Power want us controlled to a certain level...

How can anyone control what we eat? Our diets are chosen by ourselves, not by the government (or by Alex Jones, that is always trying to sell his "supplements").

Now, as a kind of PS to the above, let me tell you that I think you shouldn't give that much importance to Alex Jones (or anyone else). From what you have posted here it's clear that you are an inquisitive and intelligent person, even if you lack knowledge in some areas.
Seeing an intelligent person giving so much weight to someone else's opinions is something that I think is a shame, as you are intelligent enough to have your own opinion without being led by someone else, so I suggest you just use Alex Jones to find topics you like but then do your own research instead of accepting what he says.

QuoteIt also be restriced by biological brain size developement....that you cannot alter...such as head width size..
or certain parts of the head brain in how that develop...

Brain size is not related to intelligence, even people with some areas of the brain damaged can have a normal intelligence.

QuoteThere are theories about persons head width size  with for some reason as to how wider heads tend to remember thing better over all..or that the distance between ones eyes....your frontal lobes..may have more capacity .who tend to be more leader types.. ie supervisors, manager types..... is this just due to having been brought up on a good diet or of ones mother breast size and if she milk feeds  her children...?  :) if breast or bottle fed ..some may suggest breat fed is better....or is..luck of the draw ...

Those people got to be leaders more likely because other people look at them and see them as a leader type and accept what they say instead of thinking for themselves. Most people are too lazy to try to be a leader (I know I am :D), so they accept anyone else that appears to want to be one.

One thing that affects intelligence is a bad/insufficient food while growing up, so people from very poor families have a natural (or artificial, seeing that was dictated by external factors) tendency to be less intelligent and so to have lower paying jobs, leading to their children to have lower intelligence than they could if they had a good living while growing up.

QuoteOk Bill Gates aganda may appear to have alter conditions for Africans in certain ways BUT DO NOT FORGET he is also involving Population Control.... and thats one of the main Issues people who have against him or his agenda as its suggested he aims to do this to the rest of the world...or even  1st world countries ..

Population control through a better life, resulting in a lower birth rate in those poor countries. Many 1st World countries (and almost all European countries) are seeing too low birth rates, so they do not need any more population control, any more would result in, once more, lack of people to pay taxes and keeping the countries working.

QuoteIn ref to Vernon Coleman... I think he has still touched on certain topics that maybe be of further interest that maybe worth checking out further...at least for now....

No problems in checking things out, just don't accept what anyone says (me included ;) ) without analysing it yourself. :)

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
Astr0144,

Are You wearing Your mask?

Are You complying?

Technocracy ( technocrazy) is about to devour You.

I always find it funny when people act as if words sound similar for some special reason and ignore the origin of those words.  ::)

QuoteThis is a global panic demic, the agenda is technocracy control.

Judging from your posts it looks like you have your own agenda, and that's spreading panic your own way.

QuoteWE THE PEOPLE will be replaced.

By what, robots? Robots don't pay taxes.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 07:37:06 PM
Is it a race take over  for them to try to take white Women...or interracially mix which we are now seeing one quite a large scale....they seem to be able to attract white Women...but those women risk deleting there own race..

So do the black man doing it, as their children would be neither black or white, right? :)

Astr0144,

TECHNOCRACY.

The BLM is an invented distraction, do You believe all content in movies????
Eugenics is central to technocracy thus it must be shown that BLM, but whilst they kneel, they also seem to be strangely dying at a higher rate.

technocracy is not bothered about the stock exchange or money, or politicians, it is all about scientific control.

The trouble is the science is flawed.

This isn't about power, it's about control by technology, the internet of things, where resistance is futile.

The masks are just part of the control agenda, they are actually dangerous to the wearer, but that doesn't matter as any deaths will increase the fear.
The ultimate agenda is the vaccine with DNA altering content and nano content, where humans will cease to be humans, they will become things, and things are disposable if they falter.

This is END TIMES for humans, forget WE THE PEOPLE as they will be like neanderthals, and remember that history is written by the victor.

Kevin

Kevin

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 08:06:40 PM
I always find it funny when people act as if words sound similar for some special reason and ignore the origin of those words.  ::)
Judging from your posts it looks like you have your own agenda, and that's spreading panic your own way.
By what, robots? Robots don't pay taxes.

No ArMap, I am not spreading fear or panic, I am simply pointing out that which is occuring globally.

Kevin

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 08:28:18 PM
This isn't about power, it's about control by technology, the internet of things, where resistance is futile.

Isn't control the us of power over someone/something else?

QuoteThis is END TIMES for humans, forget WE THE PEOPLE as they will be like neanderthals, and remember that history is written by the victor.

So, does that mean that the machines will be in control, not humans?

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 08:32:46 PM
No ArMap, I am not spreading fear or panic, I am simply pointing out that which is occuring globally.

The way you are doing it it looks more like you are spreading fear and/or panic, as you present this situation as an end of times for humans, without presenting any credible and verifying facts or solutions.

I will try to answer some points in red below..at least as an initial quick response for now..

What you say about Hitler and the Jews ..may have reminded me about some points you made about the Jews having money businesses or banks... wealth.. while Germany and Europe was in depression after the 1929 to 1932 Financial collapse....  7 years later WW2 started...and Hitler had been in power.

Now I know I kep referring to Alex Jones... and the reason being .. is mainly what I became aware about is from some of his teachings or some other book I have read that seems to  go along with many things A.J says..and maybe thats why I have followed him for some years... even prior to joining PRC...in 2012

But A.J has suggested many things are created by design by the Mega Rich  Controllers in power and aided Hitler to Power..

Whether one believe this or not.. is ones own business...

When I was invited by Zorgon to PRC... I initially thought that a far % of members may had been A.J  followrers or maybe took partal  similar views ... but I am not sure thats the case...

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 08:02:44 PM
Hitler and the Nazis wanted, like many other people in Germany and in other European countries, get rid of the Jews because they saw in them a kind of a state within the state, and they thought they had too much power, that came to them through the money they handled, as many Jews were bankers, something that came from the Middle Ages, when Christians thought that it was bad for Christians to own banks, letting that work for the Jews, which didn't have that problem in their religion.

One of the ideas was to remove all Jews from Germany and send them to some African country, but they finally decided that it was easier (and probably cheaper) to just kill them, along with other undesirables like Gypsies and homosexuals.
That's the whole idea behind the existence of some kind of world government that controls everything and everyone.


Trying to answer further on IQ for now maybe too much of a complex topic...but yes IQ does not determine outcome and many factors and luck fate can apply...but you cannot have low IQ people leading businesses or organisations...
but you can put high IQ people doing much lower grade jobs.. in which they probably do not really fit or should not be for their best or societies interest  (If its anyones elses businsess that is ) .

Generally I think after a certain age ,unless you get effected by various things that can occur in life.... generally your IQ remains similar thru ones life unless you really work to try to improve it..although some people may increase their IQs sort of naturally somehow...

and from what I have researched.... Average IQ is 100... and only 25 % have an IQ above 110

Alex Jones claims his IQ is 140 as was Hitlers.. Einsteins / Trump / Bill Gates  I think was around 160, .. Bill Clinto 180.. MATRIX TRAVELLER who was a member on PRC..CLAIMED 180.....James Bond has a 188 IQ ( if he had ever really existed)  :)  [/i]  Devinci may had been in the 200s which is VERY rare.... to give some guidence egs

AS for the DIETS.... IM NOT SURE I CAN DISCUSS THIS ONE AGAIN... AS WE HAVE REFERRED TO THIS QUOTE A FEW TIMES IN THE PAST....I dont know if its me of if you have just forgot past discussions on this or never got convinced...

PEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES SUGGESTS THAT..THING LIKE GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOODS can be made to effect us negatively as well as positively and claimed many foods thru the likes of the SECRET Bilderberg Group.... are involved in creating such foods that dose us down and age us quicker...FOOD LIKE BAKED BEANS AS AN EG OR CORNFLAKES that many people eat... are prime egs.....and some people may hoestly believe this is happening to them and A.J has recently suggested some [peoples IQs are dropping by 20 points and if thats correct thats very serious

That's wrong, high IQs are not related to being leaders, high IQs go relatively unnoticed, as people do not have (usually) opportunities to use it. Also, a higher IQ doesn't mean that person is more capable of solving problem in real life, IQ measuring is subjective.
I didn't know that, we don't do them in Portugal (as far as I know). Also, that would be useless, as an high IQ in children do not translate to a high IQ in adult.
Mostly, IQ tests are useless in real life.
How can anyone control what we eat? Our diets are chosen by ourselves, not by the government (or by Alex Jones, that is always trying to sell his "supplements").


DIFFICULT WHEN ONE HAS SPENT SEVERAL YEARS FOLLOWING HIM...Brain washd or not

The reasons I relate to these topics is I see them maybe as being some of the most concerning topics effecting us

and A>J has studied this stuff for years and I do believe is quite alot more intellegent than me and most people..
and discusses such difficult topics that many people may avoid or not take notice..

I am also now probaly over mind controlled by it  

Now, as a kind of PS to the above, let me tell you that I think you shouldn't give that much importance to Alex Jones (or anyone else). From what you have posted here it's clear that you are an inquisitive and intelligent person, even if you lack knowledge in some areas.


FOR ME IF I VALUES SOMEONES VIEWS OR TEACHINGS ... I AM PREPARED TO FOLLOW WHAT THEY SAY..
AS I WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP WITH ANY SUCH KNOWLEDGE..AS NEITHER WAS MY PARENTS..
PEOPE LIKE AJ...SEEMED LIKE A GOD TO ME Touching on such subjects...that related to that book I read

Seeing an intelligent person giving so much weight to someone else's opinions is something that I think is a shame, as you are intelligent enough to have your own opinion without being led by someone else, so I suggest you just use Alex Jones to find topics you like but then do your own research instead of accepting what he says.
Brain size is not related to intelligence, even people with some areas of the brain damaged can have a normal intelligence.


NO DOUBT  WE ALL MAY WASTE OUR LIFES AWAY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER...at timesor things may occur that make us do so.. I KNOW I am not living the Live that I had hoped to do so at least as yet and time could certainy be running out

Those people got to be leaders more likely because other people look at them and see them as a leader type and accept what they say instead of thinking for themselves. Most people are too lazy to try to be a leader (I know I am :D), so they accept anyone else that appears to want to be one.

YES PART OF THE POINT I AM MAKING ABOUT DIET OR WHAT WE EAT AND HOW IT MAY EFFECT US..

One thing that affects intelligence is a bad/insufficient food while growing up, so people from very poor families have a natural (or artificial, seeing that was dictated by external factors) tendency to be less intelligent and so to have lower paying jobs, leading to their children to have lower intelligence than they could if they had a good living while growing up.
Population control through a better life, resulting in a lower birth rate in those poor countries. Many 1st World countries (and almost all European countries) are seeing too low birth rates, so they do not need any more population control, any more would result in, once more, lack of people to pay taxes and keeping the countries working.


No problems in checking things out, just don't accept what anyone says (me included ;) ) without analysing it yourself. :)

YOU MAKE A EQUALLY VALID POINT ? but my earlier impressions used to be more to seeing Black men with White women... but since tin the last year or two the TV and media has now created more equality to other races... more coloured people are involved in various TV ads and Programs / soaps etc where your starting to see white man with coloured women... I THINK we are seeing more Black race people even more than muslims now being being part of TV shows and few Chinese ..so to me it seems Black people are being considered more in both TV and media and also NOW JOBS....which to my Original white race is an even more added threat on what has been already challenging times since Thatchers days in the 1990s

Quote from: astr0144 on Today at 11:37:06 AM
    Is it a race take over  for them to try to take white Women...or interracially mix which we are now seeing one quite a large scale....they seem to be able to attract white Women...but those women risk deleting there own race..

So do the black man doing it, as their children would be neither black or white, right? :)

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 08:37:53 PM
The way you are doing it it looks more like you are spreading fear and/or panic, as you present this situation as an end of times for humans, without presenting any credible and verifying facts or solutions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqMADHBJd8

I am acting as a messenger, the fear is been supplied by the technocrats.


Kevin

I dont watch as many Movies these days..or may opt to watch some older type ones when I do rather than more modern movies......and initialy I am not quite sure what you may mean by what you say

The Word... Technocrazy   Ill be honest to you I think maybe newish to me... Id just assumed it was technology related but there maybe more to it.... I will  need to read up further on it

from what I can see on the link below on a very quick browse relates to 2013 .. prior it refers to early 1900s.

QuoteIn 2013, a European Union library briefing on its legislative structure referred to the Commission as a "technocratic authority", holding "legislative monopoly" over the EU lawmaking process.[21] The briefing suggests that this system, which relegates the European Parliament to a vetoing and amending body, was "originally rooted in the mistrust of the political process in post-war Europe". This system is unusual, since the Commission's sole right of legislative initiative is a power usually associated with Parliaments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy

I thought BLM only came on the scene recently since the Death of George Floyd...
BUT many concerning things to do with Coloured people in the UK / Europe and maybe USA in ref to Muslims has been going on for a few years now ..maybe since 2010

WHo is Kneeling.... the Whites to the Blacks do you mean... in ref to comments made about the slave trade recently or yet again...you dont mean blacks kneeling to whites I dont think..

BUT as to why they may dying... That I do not KNOW... Does Vernon Coleman relates to this do you know ?

(If White Controllers are involved...(who are still racist) they maybe creating false illussions to them but really aim to start killing  some off if they have reason to consider doing so)

Eugenics and Scientific control... yes they have been around from many years ago...or at least WW2 in the 1940s

if the science is flawed.. and its technology based... its has to be created by some human agenda..

so really your just saying what Alex Jones has said... that they aim to vaccinate us using nano technology which is some how designed to allow them to take a form of chip like control over us... as individuals...

SO again I ask.... WHAT IF ANYTHING WOULD YOU ADVISE US TO CONSIDER..

DO YOU SEE ANY WAY OUT OF THIS ? if you are willing to advise...

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 08:28:18 PM
Astr0144,

TECHNOCRACY.

The BLM is an invented distraction, do You believe all content in movies????
Eugenics is central to technocracy thus it must be shown that BLM, but whilst they kneel, they also seem to be strangely dying at a higher rate.

technocracy is not bothered about the stock exchange or money, or politicians, it is all about scientific control.

The trouble is the science is flawed.

This isn't about power, it's about control by technology, the internet of things, where resistance is futile.

The masks are just part of the control agenda, they are actually dangerous to the wearer, but that doesn't matter as any deaths will increase the fear.
The ultimate agenda is the vaccine with DNA altering content and nano content, where humans will cease to be humans, they will become things, and things are disposable if they falter.

This is END TIMES for humans, forget WE THE PEOPLE as they will be like neanderthals, and remember that history is written by the victor.

Kevin

Kevin

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 09:13:41 PM
But A.J has suggested many things are created by design by the Mega Rich  Controllers in power and aided Hitler to Power..

Does he say who are those "Mega Rich Controllers"?

QuoteTrying to answer further on IQ for now maybe too much of a complex topic...but yes IQ does not determine outcome and many factors and luck fate can apply...but you cannot have low IQ people leading businesses or organisations...

True (mostly), but one thing that helps people is knowing what their weaknesses are, so if a person with a lower IQ starts a business but they know they need someone better prepared than them to organise things they can get one and have a successful business.

QuotePEOPLE LIKE ALEX JONES SUGGESTS THAT THING LIKE GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOODS can be made to effect us negatively as well as positively and claimed many foods thru the likes of the SECRET Bilderberg Group.... are involved in creating such foods that dose us down and age us quicker....and some people may hoestly believe this is happening to them and A.J has recently suggested some [eoples IQs are dropping by 20 points and if thats correct thats very serious

Life expectancy is always going up and elder people are healthier than they were some years ago, so how are we ageing quicker?
Also, not all countries have genetically modified foods. The US uses them much more than the EU, for example. Now that the UK is out of the EU they will probably use more coming from the US.
And don't forget that Alex Jones has an interest in making people scared of the food they eat, as it sells food supplements and other related stuff.

QuoteFOR ME IF I VALUES SOMEONES VIEWS OR TEACHINGS ... I AM PREPARED TO FOLLOW WHAT THEY SAY

That's natural, I'm only saying that we shouldn't accept what other people say as being absolute truth as that it's exactly like they say, we should look for ourselves to create our own opinion instead of just following what other people say.
I know that's easier said than done, as in many topics it would take use years to gather that knowledge, but what I want to say is that we should always look at things from a sceptical point of view and look for supporting evidence.

QuoteYES PART OF THE POINT I AM MAKING ABOUT DIET OR WHAT WE EAT AND HOW IT MAY EFFECT US..

Yes, what we eat affects us, obviously, just don't believe whatever is said about it without looking for evidence.

QuoteYOU MAKE A EQUALLY VALID POINT ? but my earlier impressions used to be more to seeing Black men with White women... but since tin the last year or two the TV and media has now created more equality to other races... more coloured people are involved in various TV ads and Programs / soaps etc where your starting to see white man with coloured women... I THINK we are seeing more Black race people even more than muslims now being being part of TV shows and few Chinese ..so to me it seems Black people are being considered more in both TV and media and also NOW JOBS....which to my Original white race is an even more added threat on what has been already challenging times since Thatchers days in the 1990s

One way I used to use to know if a TV show was from the UK or the US was to see if there were any mixed race couples/families in it, as if they were then it was always from the UK. :)
As for the jobs question, why does it matter the person's race?

Quote from: kevin on July 25, 2020, 09:19:24 PM
I am acting as a messenger, the fear is been supplied by the technocrats.

No, the fear is being provided by you, with your posts about the "END TIMES for humans", nobody else is saying things like that.

Yes which has ben discussed a few  times also in the past... he used to  make ref to people like the Rothchilds and Rockerfellows as some of the earler people involved who had still lived..or recently died.as I think David Rockerfellow may have......although it could have been going on over history.. since or even before the Romans.....but on a quick search I found one site that he warned David Icke not to mention the Rothchilds..
So one can only make ones own judgement...Has Trump warned him off about that or has he had certain threats.. or has realised he made an error of knowledge / judgement..

Then more recenly he related to people like George Sorus and Obama... NWO, Illuminati. Bankers Bilderbergs

You used to use a phrase fror certain conspiracy issues.... that you believed may had been made up but I cannot recall the phrase....

Yes Business owners can find higher staff to aid them in their business...and quite possibly many may achieve this.
but they have to hope that they can maintain things if they face problems in the future...and they also have work a lot harder and longer.. which can be a bind....or end up becoming an obsession with little rewards...

the clever ones seem to excell and prosper quickly in younger life to later enjoy there remaining years if they manage to succeed....which is what most business people would prefer..

In terms of Life expectancy and GM foods.. from whatI can see GM foods on a larger scale have been more mass created since 1994... so it may not seem to have effected some age groups but maybe others..
some have developed since..at varying dates..

So GM food issues on a larger more concerning scale may be relatively over new...so you may not easily notice things as yet.... but one eg .. look how bad mental health (Inc with the young) has recently become.. is that oneof the  signs..
which is one thing A.J refers to...as well as all the uncertainty created by Govt and the new ideals... pressure on them to have to work so much harder...

IF they are capable of dealing with it later on... they may get there rewards... but many may also become negively effected..more than they should be doing....

It may depends on ones view but the way I believe things occurrng in the UK...

there is no easy  ier  rides thru life anymore for most...its constent pressure from being young to perform to a higher level....that not everyone can cope with...even if they claim to make considerations...

the fact is.. for certain they have to now do much more than my generation ever did....at such younger ages..

They could have  designed to  just reduce lifespans if say the last generation who survived the war who are coming to an end now..

anyone born say since the 1950s.../ 60s may now start to face it..

some medical drugs and technology can aid in peoples health or if chosens they can also be designed create problems.
(I suspect that could be hard to prove either way)

It maybe initially they were not a threat.... But I do recall a lot being said and concern about them some years back...

I also now believe that maybe There are now many more threats of increase in health like strokes, heart Attacks , Dementa , Alziemers , Parkinsons , Motor Nuron Disease etc... but I think the Govt are hiding the real figures..

on a quick search I could easily find suitable charts over a reasonable time period to compare... just the last 5/ 10 yrs and next 50 years or so...such as these as an eg..

(https://www.fic.nih.gov/News/GlobalHealthMatters/PublishingImages/graph-people-with-dementia-lmic-hic.jpg)

This a cancer related chart for the USA...
(https://www.cancer.gov/PublishedContent/Images/images/graphs/Estimated-cancer-prevelance-by-age-enlarge.__v200336597.jpg)

Quote

FROM A VERNON COLEMAN  ARTICLE .... In which some of these things I have experienced... or witnessed...

MANY people having to SELL their homes for their Care ! after many paid into the system for years

Many of the next generation may not be in a good enough financial situation to pay for theres.. unless things change for the better which I am rather doubtful... thats some of the other real concerns people face..

Around the world there are estimated to be around 50 million people suffering from dementia – though this figure is probably on the low side. One half of all the patients admitted to nursing homes are said to be suffering from dementia.

Millions of patients who have been diagnosed with dementia are being looked after by their families. Many family members have had to abandon their jobs and their normal lives in order to find the necessary time to provide care for their loved ones. Millions more patients have been dumped in hospitals and nursing homes where they sit or lie, waiting to die.

The commonest diagnosis for all these patients is Alzheimer's disease. It is widely reputed that two thirds of patients with dementia are suffering from Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's has in many countries become the default diagnosis. If a patient has dementia then they will be assumed to be suffering from Alzheimer's and little or no effort will be made to find any other diagnosis. The drug companies, the big charities, the media and even some doctors seem to promote the view that the words 'dementia' and 'Alzheimer's' are pretty well interchangeable.

The effect of the stress they have been under will produce permanent damage. When (or if) GPs surgeries eventually reopen there will be queues and long waiting lists as people report their depressions and anxieties and ask for help. With no suitable training, and no time, GPs will hand out vast quantities of anxiolytics and anti-depressants – most of which are addictive. Tens of millions will be turned into prescription drug zombies.

Quote

The first genetically modified food approved for release was the Flavr Savr tomato in 1994.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food


NOT sure about the details of the programs you refer to shown in Portugal... unless theyare more recent ones of some old ones that back then were seen as comical...(which may now be  concerns to BLM or similar)

but in terms of the Blacks being considered for jobs more when we had a fairly recent influx of them.. as I have said before these people are replacing MANY whites who have strugled for years due to employment isses created by the system... that should have children of their own filling those jobs.... People from the WAR wondered what they fought for.... and now they are allowing or trying to persuade employers to allow coloureds in these jobs....due to things like race concern issues s that got created since  prior to brexit concerns... that is part of what Brexit was about....At least IMO..

You may see me as showing racist views..

But I do like some Coloured / other nationality  people....and have some favorite icons who are other than white race and hate some white people....but can find positives with most people... so maybe I am just racist to things I do not like....

Its just the recent scale and past issues as to how things are seeming to  occur now ..

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2020, 10:23:39 PM
Does he say who are those "Mega Rich Controllers"?

True (mostly), but one thing that helps people is knowing what their weaknesses are, so if a person with a lower IQ starts a business but they know they need someone better prepared than them to organise things they can get one and have a successful business.


Life expectancy is always going up and elder people are healthier than they were some years ago, so how are we ageing quicker?

Also, not all countries have genetically modified foods. The US uses them much more than the EU, for example. Now that the UK is out of the EU they will probably use more coming from the US.

And don't forget that Alex Jones has an interest in making people scared of the food they eat, as it sells food supplements and other related stuff.

That's natural, I'm only saying that we shouldn't accept what other people say as being absolute truth as that it's exactly like they say, we should look for ourselves to create our own opinion instead of just following what other people say.
I know that's easier said than done, as in many topics it would take use years to gather that knowledge, but what I want to say is that we should always look at things from a sceptical point of view and look for supporting evidence.


Yes, what we eat affects us, obviously, just don't believe whatever is said about it without looking for evidence.
One way I used to use to know if a TV show was from the UK or the US was to see if there were any mixed race couples/families in it, as if they were then it was always from the UK. :)
As for the jobs question, why does it matter the person's race?

Quote from: astr0144 on July 25, 2020, 10:59:17 PM
Yes which has ben discussed a few  times also in the past... he used to  make ref to people like the Rothchilds and Rockerfellows as some of the earler people involved who had still lived..or recently died.as I think David Rockerfellow may have......although it could have been going on over history.. since or even before the Romans.....but on a quick search I found one site that he warned David Icke not to mention the Rothchilds..
So one can only make ones own judgement...Has Trump warned him off about that or has he had certain threats.. or has realised he made an error of knowledge / judgement..

Then more recenly he related to people like George Sorus and Obama... NWO, Illuminati. Bankers Bilderbergs

Rothschild, Soros. It looks like the Jews are still being targeted. ;)

Does he say why they are doing it?

QuoteYou used to use a phrase fror certain conspiracy issues.... that you believed may had been made up but I cannot recall the phrase....

I don't remember saying a specific phrase, so I can't help you with that.

QuoteYes Business owners can find higher staff to aid them in their business...and quite possibly many may achieve this.
but they have to hope that they can maintain things if they face problems in the future...and they also have work a lot harder and longer.. which can be a bind....or end up becoming an obsession with little rewards...

The fact is that people have to work hard to have a successful business, at least at the start, if the business is highly successful then they rest.

QuoteIn terms of Life expectancy and GM foods.. from whatI can see GM foods on a larger scale have been more mass created since 1994... so it may not seem to have effected some age groups but maybe others..
some have developed since..at varying dates..

That's true, they are relatively new.

QuoteSo GM food issues on a larger more concerning scale may be relatively over new...so you may not easily notice things as yet.... but one eg .. look how bad mental health (Inc with the young) has recently become.. is that oneof the  signs..
which is one thing A.J refers to...as well as all the uncertainty created by Govt and the new ideals... pressure on them to have to work so much harder...

Uncertainty is nothing new, what kind of pressures are you talking about?

Quotethere is no easy  ier  rides thru life anymore for most...its constent pressure from being young to perform to a higher level....that not everyone can cope with...even if they claim to make considerations...

Where does that pressure come from? And what does it pressure them to do or be?

QuoteThey could have  designed to  just reduce lifespans if say the last generation who survived the war who are coming to an end now..

anyone born say since the 1950s.../ 60s may now start to face it..

Only if they use GM food. If they do not use it then they cannot be affected by it, right?

Quotesome medical drugs and technology can aid in peoples health or if chosens they can also be designed create problems.
(I suspect that could be hard to prove either way)

They don't need to create drugs to create problems, they just have to create drugs that are not effective as a treatment to the already existing problems or that have many side effects.

QuoteI also now believe that maybe There are now many more threats of increase in health like strokes, heart Attacks , Dementa , Alziemers , Parkinsons , Motor Nuron Disease etc... but I think the Govt are hiding the real figures..

Most of those appear now to be more common because people was not diagnosed with them, it was considered just "old age".

Quoteon a quick search I could easily find suitable charts over a reasonable time period to compare... just the last 5/ 10 yrs and next 50 years or so...such as these as an eg..

(https://www.fic.nih.gov/News/GlobalHealthMatters/PublishingImages/graph-people-with-dementia-lmic-hic.jpg)

This a cancer related chart for the USA...
(https://www.cancer.gov/PublishedContent/Images/images/graphs/Estimated-cancer-prevelance-by-age-enlarge.__v200336597.jpg)

Once more, the fact that people are now better followed by doctors makes it hard to compare today's situation with the past, but I know that all those things appear to be more common than before. Which is not really a surprise, as most people live under stress and do not have a good diet.

QuoteNOT sure about the details of the programs you refer to shown in Portugal... unless theyare more recent ones of some old ones that back then were seen as comical...(which may now be  concerns to BLM or similar)

I'm talking about common series from (mostly) the 70s and 80s, it was common for those from the UK to have mixed couples, while those from the US had none.

QuoteYou may see me as showing racist views..

I do, as I don't see any reason to see things in a different way just because of the person's race.

A.J has made a ref to this, but says little detail about it in writing... so it requires to watch his video.

He suggested something like this some time ago..that Trump would challenge Bill Gates. but I did not see any follow up...

has anyone watched it ? or aware of it

Live: Trump Warns Gates-Controlled U.N. Wants Permanent U.S. Shutdown

In this emergency Saturday report, Alex Jones lays out the latest development in the globalist plan to create a worldwide depression and destroy America forever
Infowars.com - July 25, 2020

https://www.infowars.com/trump-warns-gates-controlled-u-n-wants-permanent-u-s-shutdown/

Alex Jones brings you this live emergency Saturday report to break down how President Trump revealed he finally knows the diabolical United Nations plan to keep America in a permanent state of lockdown using the coronavirus hoax.


Also has anyone got any written information that describes the suggested nano technology that is being suggested could be added into the up coming Vaccines and what it claims it can do....

I seem to recall coming across some videos on it.. on certain websites but not sure there was any detailed description as to how it may work and what it can do or monitor....... that relates to some of the concerning issues that have been referred to.. such as : as to how certain things maybe activated...if they have ways of using it as some form of chip... that could be activated to act in certain ways or kill


this article does make ref to the fact that the vaccine for Covid contains nano tech... but I am doubtful it refers to the other concerning issues...

Nanotechnology plays major role in COVID-19 vaccine development

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200715/Nanotechnology-plays-major-role-in-COVID-19-vaccine-development.aspx

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 23, 2020, 12:25:10 PM
Good one Shasta  ;)

They have plans to clone me.  Not sure how that's going to work.  Maybe use my grandson's 3D printer.

Quote from: astr0144 on July 26, 2020, 01:59:18 AM
In this emergency Saturday report, Alex Jones lays out the latest development in the globalist plan to create a worldwide depression and destroy America forever

Again I ask: why?

QuoteAlso has anyone got any written information that describes the suggested nano technology that is being suggested could be added into the up coming Vaccines and what it claims it can do....

I haven't, probably because it's just imagination.

QuoteI seem to recall coming across some videos on it.. on certain websites but not sure there was any detailed description as to how it may work and what it can do or monitor....... that relates to some of the concerning issues that have been referred to.. such as : as to how certain things maybe activated...if they have ways of using it as some form of chip... that could be activated to act in certain ways or kill

"Nanotechnology" is just another key word used by those trying to spread fear in people, with words like "AI" and "DNA" mixed together to sound scientific. When we look for more information we see there is none, they just gathered some key words to scare people.

Quotethis article does make ref to the fact that the vaccine for Covid contains nano tech... but I am doubtful it refers to the other concerning issues...

Yes, they use nanotechnology to work with the cells and all the components, like proteins, that are key parts in the way virus and the immune system work, but they are not putting nanobots on a vaccine for the simple reason they do not exist, at least not in a reliable and cheap way to be used in millions of vaccine doses.

Yes Astro, the Borg developed the Corona virus, and we're all going to be assimilated.  Except for us cats. Cats are smarter than the Borg, so we won't be assimilated.  We will simply resume our rightful place as the rulers and deities if humanity.

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 26, 2020, 09:56:46 PM
Yes Astro, the Borg developed the Corona virus, and we're all going to be assimilated.  Except for us cats. Cats are smarter than the Borg, so we won't be assimilated.  We will simply resume our rightful place as the rulers and deities if humanity.

Sekhmet was both great healer and war goddess.
https://www.gaia.com/article/sekhmet-the-egyptian-goddess-of-war-and-female-empowerment


To every season, turn turn turn, there is a reason, turn turn turn.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKP4cfU28vM

Isn't it time for female empowerment, instead of these crazy male plotters who kill kill kill???????/

Kevin

Hi Shasta....

Forgive me at the moment I am in a sort of drunken state due to lack of sleep / eating...trying to read thru some of
Dr Vernons materials...my head is spinning around and im halucinating or went into another world or zone entirely

I think I may have been attacked my mind control somehow has I witnessed very strange things :o

Being a Cat may always be the best option !    but

Did you say that you used to be a Nurse ? and if so had you changed from being a cat  :P or was you a cat in disguise.

Somewhere on the Vernon Colemans website that Kevin posted... I came across somewhere that he had a page on Cats if I recall... but when I looked I could not find it. but will try again if and when I can  think better.

Can you explain about the Borg in ref to CV....  (is that from Star Trek or something on present Earth or something else?)

I may be wrong but I think this morning it was mentioned in UK that the 1st Animal of what ever species was found to have CV...that  had been a cat.. so do NOt come to the UK !....unless you know otherwise



Pet cat becomes first animal to test positive for coronavirus in UK

Quotehttps://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/pet-cat-becomes-first-animal-to-test-positive-for-coronavirus-in-uk/ar-BB17eT8k?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Dr Vernon.... Says the whole thing is BS and a Hoax..  but can we trust him ?  upon trying to read further ..He appears to
had made a series of varied comments about CV... in which may have also been questionable

but to have such a DR... say what he does...you would also think could be someone who does really know more so than anyone else.. but most Drs had been too involved dealling in the crisis rather than looking at it from being away from it..
or they are to concerned to risk saying what they may think..due to reputation purposes

where as Dr Vernon.. was retired...and did not come back into the crisis as some had done so

He relates to some other topics that I dont think he should say if the CV is done by the Borg or maybe NWO..
as somethings he says maybe supporting it instead..but he make out he disblieves the crisis issue.

Other than ArMaP and yourself .....
I was hoping that some further comments may had been made after I made my last post and thought id await a few days to see if anyone may have further things to comment on if they were trying to catch up as there maybe too much material posted  and too little time for most to read in a day or week..

so a break inbetween maybe needed.. and a long cat knap ...and hope that the dogs dont bark to wake me up.or a borg attack... :-\

I dont know if kevin had read it..or if he aims to comment further..or if he or anyone found any material related to what I asked about..or he may have some other reasons.

so it maybe hard to answer some further comments with any info..

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 26, 2020, 09:56:46 PM
Yes Astro, the Borg developed the Corona virus, and we're all going to be assimilated.  Except for us cats. Cats are smarter than the Borg, so we won't be assimilated.  We will simply resume our rightful place as the rulers and deities if humanity.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dr+vernon+coleman+cats&id=29D292F17E727D7BBCD4D77450B5318B101CAA5F&form=IQFRBA&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover


Dr Vernon Coleman and cats.

Kevin

Thats looks like the right part..

Can I ask in general to all... if one thinks some further connected information to this topic maybe rather too sensitive or of concern for an open to public viewing.

What other area would be best to make a connected related thread to this..that only purely members can read.

So say If may have found some further information but it would have to kept secret ..

what area should one create the thread ?

Quote from: kevin on July 28, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dr+vernon+coleman+cats&id=29D292F17E727D7BBCD4D77450B5318B101CAA5F&form=IQFRBA&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover


Dr Vernon Coleman and cats.

Kevin

QuoteCan I ask in general to all... if one thinks some further connected information to this topic maybe rather too sensitive or of concern for an open to public viewing.

There should be nothing hidden regarding this. Put all the cards on the table. People can then make their own informed decisions based of the collected data. We are all adults here.  ;)

Hi Ellirium113

I would hope that this could be seem as similar past content as to what you may expect....BUT this Could be the start of the Worst possible outcome...and I am not really sure how best to try to write or explain it...and may need to be careful..and I am not sure if anyone would really be able to add anything further to it...as the solutions maybe
severely restricted...with no outcome..

So I may be trying to give some various  egs and suggestions that later lead to the final option..
so it may take a while to explain...once started...during this time you maybe confused...

and solutions maybe obvious and maybe I am trying to get from A to B by going around in circles..
when the easy option is to go across in a much shorter straight line...

or I am missing the wood for the trees.../ trees for the forsest..

Firstly I was not sure if members were still following or taking interest or  maybe just p--ssed off with it..,
fed up with the added content or laughing at it, or not taking it seriously..and the way things have been recently...
or if I have overstepped the mark or said things to offend....

with all the stress I dont my own mind and says things not realising...and has its gone so quite.. its hard to know where to go from here...as I could see so many possiilities....

Appologies if this seems long winded... but I have a problem in how best to write it...
rather than easily getting to the point...

Now you may have expected some added humor maybe...

Quote

BUT... I am sorry to say... this could be as serious as it could get ..and I cannot tell all..

So the reason I ask for a seperate area to continue.. is mainly for anyone may want to post but dont like the idea of other outside viewers seeing the content.. ie such as Spooks.. as well as the general public who could post the content elsewhere...or take it the wrong way..


and 2nd this could be life and death.. depending if it proves right

(lets hope the 3rd Choice is you can laugh if its proved wrong.. and I look an Utter arse or insane  ???!)

but better to look insane ,than dead maybe.. :) Humor maybe the only thing to get thru this..

SO...This is why I am asking for the next stages to be private.. and therefore need to ask whee best to put it..
What area would be most suitable..

I know its difficult now with Zorgon not being here...he would know straight away... if hes listening in maybe he can guide us..we need he help...

My sleeep patterns have been very low and my mind and body are not acting the norm and I know it..
After yesterday I even felt as if I was having my mind taken over... and Ive never had such an experience before

but at the moment with the CV and posts made by Kevin...in which he has continued to stick with his claim..
I dont  know if  members may overall have taken The Vernon Coleman stuff or what their views maybe on it.....theres a lot of material..and if most members are only getting limited time to browse... its would take a long time to go thru and try to analyse it...

so I am guessing few if any, have attempted it...and even I have only still in reality browsed thru over some hours worth..But from what I said... there is a LOT to try to make judgement on..

In ref to some of other Kevins prior content.... he has given what he believes has occurred..
and some other members inc ArMaP, you and me have tried to ask him further info and try and determine what he has
said as to as possible as he claims...in some cases maybe disbelieving if we thought somethings did not make sence or logic..

I asked to see if other members or Kevin could find some other info to confirm to back it up but no one posted anything.

So where were we upto...

but I cannot continue the next part on this particular thread...

I am in a catch 22 with this...
I want to tell you  ALL  , BUT I cannot tell you all about it for safty reasons..  and I think I know why Kevin has the same problem..

I dont know if other members are viewing..or not.. Is Seeker ok..

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 28, 2020, 10:00:01 PM
There should be nothing hidden regarding this. Put all the cards on the table. People can then make their own informed decisions based of the collected data. We are all adults here.  ;)

Astro, I believe that no information should be withheld and it should be available to all.  I'm a member of a couple of forums and I posted an opinion on another forum and was told to knock it off because it may be slander.  I merely supported an opinion that they didn't like.  I merely faded into the wood work there and just go back once in a while.  It use to be that we could gather information from people whether we agreed or not.  I don't like being put down by others who think my information is not relevant.  I don't like it when people pick things apart and tell you that you and you opinion is wrong.

Isaid all that to say this.  Let the information flow publically and people can decide to view it or not.  Once upon a time we were critical thinkers here and researchers also.  Everyones information is important because even the smallest nugget of information can bring out an element that may be relevant to certain subject matter that is being discussed.  LET THE INFORMATION FLOW.  Just my humble opinion.  However, keep on the subject matter and off rabbit trails.

QuoteLet the information flow publically and people can decide to view it or not.  Once upon a time we were critical thinkers here and researchers also.  Everyones information is important because even the smallest nugget of information can bring out an element that may be relevant to certain subject matter that is being discussed.  LET THE INFORMATION FLOW.  Just my humble opinion.  However, keep on the subject matter and off rabbit trails.

In time correlating evidence will point us in the right path. It is healthy to consider all the information... as things progress we will see where this is going clearer.

OK...SpaceMav, E113...

thks for your feedback..I dont know how long you got online today...so I am doing an initial quick reply.. and will attempt to add further and ammend..

I wont be able to give you all the details / answers today... so you may have to wait a day or two..

This is what I propose... to follow.... give me time to ammend this... and maybe reread the other posts incase I ammended it.. more than say 10 mins ago.. otherwise it should be similar...

But the replies had gone very quite and I am trying to get some idea how members maybe viewing this...
or if they are still following..or how serous are they taking it..

and what I think for now... Is I want now allow other members to see this post .. before I / we consider and suggest what to do next....

This may take a day or two...and depends if they reply...
I may put something on another thread.. but I want to ask Where best it go ? and its GOT to be in  PRIVATE  AREA..

SO NO... this cannot remain in an open thread Spacemav  ..
So it depends whoever can do this..arrange it and  and if they are able or willing to do so...

other wise I will just carry on with some basis follow up...as the norm...

I also want to see what Kevin makes of it.. (Thats if he is willing to reply)

I am just Putting the feelers out...and will need time to try to think it out..
and tha also may depend if I dont get other destractions....

If the information is of the sort of "whistle Blower" information that has you concerned by all means put it in private area until a way can be determined on how to release the info in a different way.

That is the sort of thing that maybe ok..

the only thing that I am not sure about would be if ALL members had access to it...

because from what I recall.. some are restricted...

so say I put it in the nearest related option... that is classed as private...say 50 % are already in there..

the other 50 % would not be able to read it...

and another major concern could be for no one to copy and paste and transfer to another area.

It could also be... that who arranges things.. maybe ArMaP... they to give all present members  not in that area..
a way to get in..

It maybe best FIRST.. to consider where best 1st to put it..

Then have a few initial MAIN members who best be able to make beter judgements...and provided.. its possible to agree... then arrange things further from then on...

It may just  be an idea who best to do this with..and if they are able and willing  to do it..


ALSO AGAIN.... I want to make sure just general COMPLETE Non members or GUESTS..VIEWING CANNOT SEE it..

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 29, 2020, 12:57:30 AM
If the information is of the sort of "whistle Blower" information that has you concerned by all means put it in private area until a way can be determined on how to release the info in a different way.

Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 29, 2020, 12:57:30 AM
If the information is of the sort of "whistle Blower" information that has you concerned by all means put it in private area until a way can be determined on how to release the info in a different way.

I Agree.

I will just await to see what occurs over the next few to 24 hrs or so..

depends on various factors... whos available and sees messages..if anyone else...

and decision where best to post..

I am not sure who is now acting in Zorgons position ? if its seeker or ArMaP or someone else..

and others things I may have overlooked..

It will also now be subject to changes... as I am going to have to try to think things out how to present etc..

What it may do is just put you in the picture more....rather than give the full real reason..

which at the moment you wont understand..

Also you will have to allow for possible delays as I have a very distractive mind at times..overloaded for my capacity..or to slow at set  times

see how things go...

The Pegasus Group - General Discussions (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=89.0) is a members only area that I suppose would be a good place for your thread, when you decide to create it.

Ok ArMaP..

if you think would be the best option...

Would most or ALL present members presently have access or would you have to create a pass for  others who for what ever reason may not have access...

Also... WHO WOULD you say now is in Charge to discuss something of this nature  ?

if Zorgon was still alive... Id first speak to him..first.. but now since he is not..one of his family members is now the owner... but who would be some of the main 3 persons to deal with inc you... Has one of the members suggested to be the person who now take Zorgons role....that  say would make or consider such details / decisions...
I know Sgt RR and John Lear (Who not longer seems to visit..) also such as  Seeker as an eg...who also used to or now also now may be a main PRC leader...(I dont know if he is presently active as does not seem to visit lately so I hope he is ok)

or do all moderators have this position ?

I suppose initially Id suggest I write some basic description... but need persons who followed this with the right sort of interest...who can best analyse... like your self....where they  can maybe judge the material and try if agreeable to try to
investigate further...

before committing to writing longer descriptions...or going too far initially into detail...

may depend if persons can grasp what I am trying to explain...

to do that 1st before informing the rest of the group....

I may start a thread of on some things to do with Vernon Coleman and lead to other issues as time goes on...
I will be having a bit of time to think...I am not sure if it will be in the next hr or some hour later in the day..

it will be something like  Corona Virus Concerns...

Quote from: ArMaP on July 29, 2020, 02:51:02 AM
The Pegasus Group - General Discussions (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=89.0) is a members only area that I suppose would be a good place for your thread, when you decide to create it.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/if-covid-fatalities-were-902-lower-how-would-you-feel-about-schools-reopening?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20If%20COVID%20Fatalities%20Were%2090.2%25%20Lower%2C%20How%20Would%20You%20Feel%20About%20Schools%20Reopening%3F%20%28YACrY8%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJrZXZpbmJlbjQ5QG91dGxvb2suY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSzJ2WEF5In0%3D

This is a blog about numbers related to covid reporting.
The whole thing is been inflated to cause fear when the only thing to fear is fear.

I have been accused upon here of creating fear, I am not, I am simply trying to reveal this fear based lie, 911 is tiny compared to this.

Kevin

Kevin

By some members of that opinion at the earlier stages.... some not sure, some like me... maybe possible what you say.

some may look at things differently if certain evidence can be shown...

Is it ok if I PM you..

Are you famiiar with the personal message system about...

under my messages at the top of the page... I sent you a PM msg the other day.. it should show a 1 under messages..

if you had not noticed ... if you click on it... it will show the message..


see list at top of page...that goes horizontal across... not vertically down...like this

I am unable to copy it horizontally,,the system does not seem to allow it.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/portugal-says-some-eu-countries-breaking-pact-to-reinstate-free-movement/ar-BB17jOBb?ocid=msedgdhp

astr0144,
I am not really into PM, been from Yorkshire, it is if thars ow't to say, say it, or say now't.

Kevin

Not greatly familiar with some of the Yorkshire sayings.... (Thars..ow't)   seems like a cricketing statement..
but suspect something else..say what one means or say nowt.

I had asked if you could offer some further info on the virus...kill switch...and as to how it would work...

Can I ask if you found a video on that or any article on it ?  or maybe you posted it already and I missed it...

can you confirm ?

Its the KILL SWITCH that I am trying to analyse.... which is the parts that is most danger to us all..

Quote from: kevin on July 29, 2020, 07:52:10 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/portugal-says-some-eu-countries-breaking-pact-to-reinstate-free-movement/ar-BB17jOBb?ocid=msedgdhp

astr0144,
I am not really into PM, been from Yorkshire, it is if thars ow't to say, say it, or say now't.

Kevin

If the KS... can be confirmed... as to how it works...or if it actually exists...

I was trying to see what also the material in it.. as to what it does...and how it works.

I am also aware... you May not be able to actually say... as there is another theory behind it...which I think I maybe aware off..

As some of the existing numerous posts...that have been made... trying to find info you may had posted about it...

I would have to reread thru this thread trying to find it... or check you videos.. if one contained info on it...

that would take a long time....unless I get lucky or something in the search section .... which may be an idea..

so I can be reminded....what you said about it..

Hi Kevin

That 1st post that I sent you..I only had arrived online.... and noted you were on the forum...

. I had done so QUICKLY to try to catch your attention...so as I did not know how long you had been online...and was concerned you may disappear.

if you had only just arrived and not seen the prior days previous posts... you would not had been aware of what has been said...

If you managed to read and catch up... it may take you some time...and thats if you understand what I was trying to ask...

YOU MAY reconsider or take a different view if can understand  what I am trying to ask you.
At the moment I think you will not as yet be very clear...
but if you do think you understand can you post one more post to acknowledge it...

so at least I have some idea as to if you understand...

if you did..

I wanted to move part of this conversation to a private area...as we do have a private area.. so that know visitors or guests can see what is said if we were discussing what could be a very sensitive area... or it is at least for me...

I know you need time to catch up

so I will await to see if you understand either later or your next visit....which hopefully would be tomorrow..or weekend.

We are TRYING to look into the virus parts...or NANO Technology / parts to it.. which I know am led to beleive
theres the NANO BOT and then there is the vaccine...

I want to know / learn more about the nanobot...(They do exist..)

but the CV one maybe different to others found online....

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IT MAY BE HARDER THAN I THOUGHT TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND  WAHT I AM TRYING TO DO..

I KNOW WE HAD SOME ISSUES...and things slowed down.. or got confused ..But Hopefully we can move on...

I was origionally awaiting for Kev.. to see how he was with things..and if he may had been able to catch up..

I therefore today have NOT managed to get around laying out the other Private thread I created...in the way I initially had intended..but also had some others problems earlier today..

But I hope to do so soon and restart things once ..the dust settles..

God rarely allows things to go to plan....  ??? and I may have messed up...trying to too eary to get attention..and to ask to try and get to the point..  (Then forgetting the day before I meant to go about it differently.. without exposing part of it at least on this open thread)

In ref to some of the other related CV Thread LINKs.. as posted below...

What I am trying to discuss maybe already wrote on say the 43 page one...
but on a initial browse  (which I need to go thru again maybe  relatively quickish) I think a lot of that is thru out the history... In the early stages on CV .. I was not always following that....in as much detail as I should have...
therefore I cannot recall what may or may not had been posted on there..

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The ultimate agenda is the vaccine with DNA altering content and nano content, where humans will cease to be humans, they will become things, and things are disposable if they falter.

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I want to add this as a reminder...from another thread..  (Just as some ref for me if we manage to carry  on with this)

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    Evidence, evidence, evidence, and if there is none then the conversation is moot.  Not watching videos, a person cannot comment with any intelligence on something they have not viewed.  Then the videos have to come from a reliable source.  How do you know the source is reliable?  In order to get anything resembling the truth, you have to check your sources and check their sources unit there is nothing more to check.  A good journalist or citizen journalist will do this.  We have experts from the medical field coming out with their own conflicting opinions with their colleagues.  So, the question for each of us is who do you believe.  If no truth is found, then all we have is theories.  Fact:  many Coronaviruses exist.  Fact:  Covid-19 is another strain.
    Theory:  Where did Covid-19 originate?, Theory:  Was it manufactured?  Theory:  Was it used as a biowarfare agent?  Theory:  Did the virus actually come from a Canadian Lab where it was found out that a Chinese virologist passed on to Wuhan Laboratory?   Did 5G have anything to do with the virus?  All we have is different opinions and very little fact.

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Trying to find related threads as a reminder if trying to find some past related content or maybe a video..
that could contain what I am aiming to trying to explain

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Other views on Corona Virus
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11506.30


This was maybe the initial main largest thread on this Corona Virus topic...
as Started by Spacemav.. 43 pages worth....

Videos dealing with Corona Virus
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11476.0

Quote from: kevin on July 29, 2020, 07:52:10 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/portugal-says-some-eu-countries-breaking-pact-to-reinstate-free-movement/ar-BB17jOBb?ocid=msedgdhp

astr0144,
I am not really into PM, been from Yorkshire, it is if thars ow't to say, say it, or say now't.

Kevin

Quote from: kevin on July 29, 2020, 07:52:10 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/portugal-says-some-eu-countries-breaking-pact-to-reinstate-free-movement/ar-BB17jOBb?ocid=msedgdhp

There's one part on that article that is not correct, Portugal hasn't attributed the increase in cases in the Lisbon area to an increase in testing, most of those cases came from 5 (if I'm not mistaken) parishes that are not only the more populous but also the ones with the highest population density. They also found connections between smaller areas with an increase in cases and construction workers, so they changed some rules (like mandatory use of masks inside vans transporting workers).

The problem Portugal has with being put on a "black list" is that those doing so are looking at the numbers from the whole country, ignoring that 80% of the cases in the last month or so came from the Lisbon area, most of the rest of the country has had only a few new cases, so it's much safer to travel to some Portuguese locations than living in the London, for example.