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Started by petrus4, June 29, 2020, 02:19:09 PM

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ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 11:12:44 AM
Are you saing that maybe Perhaps they can only Police their own related connected websites...
Yes, they cannot do a thing about other sites, unless those other sites are doing something illegal, in which case they can alert the authorities.

Quoteand
With google for eg.. they are as far as I Think I am aware.. maybe the largest search engine on the Internet.
So if any website owner is shown in their search engine... Is that to say that Google could remove them from it ?
Yes, they have done that many times with many sites. Besides that, Google's algorithm ranks the sites according to the number of links pointing to them, but they also have a "grade", so a site with a lower "grade" doesn't appear at the same level as other sites with the same popularity but with a higher "grade".

QuoteThose companies however cannot as far as I know take action against a website on another search engine or platform
unless the content is found to be illegal and they report it to the law..
True, but as Google controls most of the advertising, their ranking affects advertising on those sites, as any company looking for sites to put their publicity on will obviously avoid spending money on sites with lower "grades".

QuoteIf I recall correct... Both Twitter and Instagram for eg have lately (in the past for other topics at times).. have sent messages to some of their members to ask them to remove content.. or they took action to do so..

Some main egs recently to do with Racism....in particular since the Black Lives Matter has become a main issue after the George Floyde incident..
It's a question of Terms and Conditions of Use, they all have them, telling people what they can and cannot do on the site (we also have them, naturally), so people have to accept them to join. After joining they are subject to those Terms and Conditions and can be penalised if they go against them.

QuoteBut they also may be doing it in relation to Covid issues now.. and against People like Alex Jones views.
Yes, if it goes against their Terms and Conditions of Use they can do it legally.

QuoteSo the question for me is.. also they doing it thru Govt request... or just their own views on it ?
They are, most likely, doing it for money, as usually advertisers do not like "alternative" views on important topics, so if a site starts getting many posts/pages with those the advertisers start to go elsewhere, so they get less advertising money.

astr0144

Hopefully not too many % wise will just be snitchers...

I would think its mainy between the other two options..

There has been mention that some people will require extra doses of the vaccine..
maybe more the Elderly..

ONE THING that really distrubed me in recent times.... a few years ago..

Alex Jones warned about one of the viruses maybe for Bird flu or even just a general yearly winter flu vaccine or something and said it also contained I think it was something in relation to MMR...that was not being officially disclosed or people were not warned about it...

The MMR vaccine is a vaccine against measles, mumps, and rubella.

I new two old people who had just taken their yearly Winter Flu vaccine.... that I had considered warning them about it the day before..but was too late when I found they had already gone to their Doctor to have  it..

6 months later they were both dead...from cancer and had previously lived very well...
This has severely disturbed me since in ref to this sort of stuff...

Its very hard to even consider if one should talk to others about opinions on Viruses..even to family memebers..
especially if they have Children who are going to get vaccinated for say even such as Small pox..

on the one hand if you led to believe the vaccines could be a threat.. or believe you may had had a similar experience as i described...

and on the other if you did say something and something later was suggested as being related to effect someone for them not having taken a vaccine...

then it back fires on you...or could make you feel or  look bad..

when laymen are having to to wonder can we trust Doctors or some onewho you are led to believe you should trust..
such as Govt.. or their Scientist...

and yet you maybe being led to believe from other sources that what they say may not be truth...

its very hard to make judgement...




Quote from: micjer on July 21, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.


>:( >:( >:( >:(


Canada has just set aside enough funds to order 2 doses of vaccine for every citizen in the country.

kevin

Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2020, 01:56:30 PM
I'm against any kind of censorship, so I'm against suppression of the discussion of technology being involved in CoViD-19, but I understand that when lives may be in risk for what is said people should act more responsibly.

Stating, for example, that people do not need to care about a virus spreading because this is not caused by a virus but by 5G radiation may make people act without care and catching the disease, with all the consequences it has, so people should be more careful about the way they say things.

But that is the problem, as it may be that it is not the virus causing the condition ( hypoxia), but if all debate and investigation about technology been involved is blocked, then it is equally far more dangerous and war like if technology is been deployed against the population of this planet for a certain few mega rich lunatics agenda??????

And is it not this forums basis to investigate to determine the truth?


Kevin


kevin

Quote from: micjer on July 21, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
Watching and listening to people I feel that there are three types of individuals out there.

The first are those that are saying that there is no way that they are going to take the vaccine.

Next there are those that can't wait for a vaccine.  These are the people that you see in their own cars with no passengers. wearing a mask.

Thirdly there are those people that can't wait to snitch on those that are not conforming to the rules.


>:( >:( >:( >:(


Canada has just set aside enough funds to order 2 doses of vaccine for every citizen in the country.

The MANDATORY wearing of masks is a conditioning move to enable the mandatory vaccination agenda to be be rolled out far quicker.
It will be mandatory with a huge fine and confinement for anyone not complying.

Then those who are riddled with fear will turn on anyone not having had the vaccine .
They will block anyone from ever leaving their home or having a driving license etc.

What is in the vaccine is what matters???????

It will have nano technology to enable surveilliance of every person and turn everyone into a THING in the internet of things, then You will have to puzzle out for Yourselves what further could then be undertaken from a eugenics perspective.

This is WAR , against You and all of your off spring, live in denial if You are so afraid.




kevin

MASKS

https://thedailycoin.org/2020/07/15/the-facts-on-masks-catherine-austin-fitts-dr-sherri-tenpenny-videos/

When You are wearing a mask, You are breathing back in that which Your body is trying to get rid of.

They are dangerous to YOU.


Kevin

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 21, 2020, 11:24:44 AM
Alex Jones has suggested that George Sorus is involved in wanting to allow other races into the Country to create issues..or encourage more mixed race relationships...which to some degree has now more occurred..

He may have an agenda..since it is claimed he was held as a prisioner as a Jew if I recall in WW 2..where it was suggested he had to endure or do some terrible things to survive...and may have since developed an issue with some of the White race....
Most Jews, racially, are white, but as Judaism is a religion and not a race they can be from any race, although in Israel they prefer those from an European descent to those of a Middle East descent.

George Soros is obviously white.

ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 02:35:45 PM
But that is the problem, as it may be that it is not the virus causing the condition ( hypoxia), but if all debate and investigation about technology been involved is blocked, then it is equally far more dangerous and war like if technology is been deployed against the population of this planet for a certain few mega rich lunatics agenda??????
The problem is that there isn't any real fact supporting that theory, only speculation.

QuoteAnd is it not this forums basis to investigate to determine the truth?
In forums like this, yes, but not on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram.

Ellirium113

Seems like there is merit to the Bill Gates Vaccine conspiracy after all...

Testing Will Begin In Africa For Biometric ID, "Vaccine Records," & "Payment Systems"
QuoteTesting will soon begin in poverty-stricken parts of Africa for a biometric ID which will also be your payment system and vaccine record. The biometric digital identity platform that "evolves just as you evolve" is backed by none other than the Bill Gates-backed GAVI vaccine alliance, Mastercard, and the AI-powered "identity authentication" company, Trust Stamp.
The GAVI Alliance, which is largely funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates and Rockefeller Foundations, as well as allied governments and the vaccine industry, is principally concerned with improving "the health of markets for vaccines and other immunization products," rather than the health of individuals, according to its own website. Similarly, Mastercard's GAVI partnership is directly linked to its "World Beyond Cash" effort, which mainly bolsters its business model that has long depended on a reduction in the use of physical cash.
Reducing the use of cash is needed. Cash is impossible to track, but if you use centralized digital currency, the ruling class has complete control over what you can spend.

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/testing-will-begin-in-africa-for-biometric-id-vaccine-records-payment-systems_07162020

Bill Gates sees RNA vaccines as best options for quick coronavirus treatment
Quote"You essentially turn your body into its own vaccine manufacturing unit," Gates writes.
DNA vaccines are similar, but feature a different type of genetic material and method of administration, according to the blog post.
Scientists aren't sure if RNA platforms are effective for vaccines, and Gates acknowledged that there may not be a perfect coronavirus vaccine by the time we need it.
"If we were designing the perfect vaccine, we'd want it to be completely safe and 100 percent effective. It should be a single dose that gives you lifelong protection, and it should be easy to store and transport. I hope the COVID-19 vaccine has all of those qualities, but given the timeline we're on, it may not," he writes.
Gates predicts that the vaccine that is at least 70 percent viable will be enough to stop the outbreak, and that one will be ready in about 18 months. The primary challenge will be to see if the vaccine can work well in elderly patients, as they tend to be more immunocompromised.
Additionally, about 7 billion doses of the vaccine will need to be distributed globally, with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation working with Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance, on how to effectively deploy medicine.
"It might be a bit hard to see right now, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. We're doing the right things to get a vaccine as quickly as possible," Gates concludes. "In the meantime, I urge you to continue following the guidelines set by your local authorities. Our ability to get through this outbreak will depend on everyone doing their part to keep each other safe."
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/495650-bill-gates-sees-rna-vaccines-as-best-options-for

Vaccines That Change your DNA & Gates' Italian Experiment
QuoteEurope was already planning for a Vaccine ID Passport from the 3rd quarter of 2019. The real question is what is a vaccine. Gates has been funding a vaccine that is totally different. Instead of introducing a sample of a disease, he has been funding a vaccine that is in part nanobots that target to change and alter your DNA to prevent disease. This is already being met with approval and is highly questionable as to what are the long-term effects of changing someone's DNA.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/vaccines-that-change-your-dna-gates-italian-experiment/


ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 02:46:44 PM
The MANDATORY wearing of masks is a conditioning move to enable the mandatory vaccination agenda to be be rolled out far quicker.
It will be mandatory with a huge fine and confinement for anyone not complying.
In some countries vaccination is already mandatory, in other countries it cannot be without changing the constitution.

QuoteThen those who are riddled with fear will turn on anyone not having had the vaccine .
They will block anyone from ever leaving their home or having a driving license etc.
How can people know if you didn't get the vaccine?

QuoteWhat is in the vaccine is what matters???????

It will have nano technology to enable surveilliance of every person and turn everyone into a THING in the internet of things, then You will have to puzzle out for Yourselves what further could then be undertaken from a eugenics perspective.
See, that's the kind of talk I was mentioning before. You are presenting your theory (or someone else's theory that you adopted) as fact, as if you have supporting evidence, when in fact you have nothing. That's the kind of scare tactics terrorists use to spread fear in the population and the kind of talk sites like Facebook and Twitter ban.

Even here, where we allow the discussion of these theories, we have had little of discussion, as you haven't presented any thing we can discuss, only that idea.

QuoteThis is WAR , against You and all of your off spring, live in denial if You are so afraid.
More scare tactics. You are the one spreading fear around here, not the people that think the virus is real and provokes a real disease.

ArMaP

Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
When You are wearing a mask, You are breathing back in that which Your body is trying to get rid of.

They are dangerous to YOU.
Then why do doctors and nurses use them during surgeries?

astr0144

Do you think you will wear a mask Kevin ?

Or maybe at least initially not do so and see what happens..
I suspect a fair ammount of people may not... and will to see just how the law / authorities will react to them not doing so.

I myself do not want to wear one... I feel its a phobia to me... but if you are denyed access to entering shops.. we have no choice.

I also think some people will go to their doctors to get some sort of certificate to say they are exempt..
I dont know if I am really convinced that they will make that much difference...

yes they stop initial sneezing spread... but some particals will still become airbourne and it probably will only take a minute particle to effect someone ... (if this thing is as they describe)

They are saying in the UK.. that children under 11 dont have to wear masks...

and are being given something like an AP that they can carry on their phones to show any shop keeper or complainer.. if they are not say initially aware of the age exemption/ or think they look older than 11 yrs.......that they can show any disbelievers...

WILL this work ok for them  ?  who knows .... but it will be interesting to see..





Quote from: kevin on July 21, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
MASKS

https://thedailycoin.org/2020/07/15/the-facts-on-masks-catherine-austin-fitts-dr-sherri-tenpenny-videos/

When You are wearing a mask, You are breathing back in that which Your body is trying to get rid of.

They are dangerous to YOU.
Kevin

The suggestion of the NANO technology if truth as Alex Jones described if I recall in one of his videos.. seems very disturbing if what it says is truth...

and I would have hoped that People Like Trump.. if they are aware of this.. would expose it..

If we have no one trustworthy to confirm or deny this.. we are left in the dark... and certainly will be affraid of considering any vaccine..

The other things about Vaccines that Alex Jones has made claims about.... is that he and some other people have in the past somehow or other... appear to have claimed that they never allowed any of their children to have been given any vaccines..

I thought that the Systems (esp in the UK  at early or early School level ) enforced some vaccines maybe like Small Pox..

So How did he get away with that I wonder..

and he has said that vaccines often impair ones intellegence development..or create mental issues later i Life..

and he says generally we are rarely at threat from anything...that is of the known past threats..(unless we may go to certain Countries where the threat may still be like in Africa)

Quote

It will have nano technology to enable surveilliance of every person and turn everyone into a THING in the internet of things, then You will have to puzzle out for Yourselves what further could then be undertaken from a eugenics perspective.


astr0144

Thanks ArMap for your explanations or comments about Search engine Companies / websites like google..

Yes.... George Soros is as far as I am aware is a WHITE Jew..

Not sure about other jews colour in general... But most I may have come across or seen on TV seem to be whites.

In ref to  what I think Alex Jones was referring to...

I dont know if he was suggesting that because what he went thru in a concentration Camp in the war where he was forced do killings or aid in the gassing etc...

that he is now for some reason got huge agendas maybe against some of his own race..

(Would that be more agaisnt the Germans) or include other countries as well..

I think it did because he may have had issues that his own SIDE did not act quick enough or do enough to help save himself and other Jews earlier on.....and he considered it a let down from some of his own Colour of race..

and maybe he has since wanted to create issues to upset them  later in his life once he became business successful or Rich to creates the agendas that Alex Jones claims he has or is involved in...

Such as have some say in allowing a huge flux of Racial Intergration into European Countries..
that may had also been in relation to some of the EU plans when they occurred .. maybe he helped fund their aganda.



Quote from: ArMaP on July 22, 2020, 02:39:54 AM
Most Jews, racially, are white, but as Judaism is a religion and not a race they can be from any race, although in Israel they prefer those from an European descent to those of a Middle East descent.

George Soros is obviously white.

astr0144

In ref to our past Group Comments on Bill Gates... ie is he the devil or a hero saviour ?

I dont doubt some members will still be asking proof to to these articles..

But I still think there is a lot of high possibility or truth behind at some of these agendas..

I definately think they are aiming to chip us if such technolgy does exist.. (It exists presently on Animals so not humans as their next agenda )..and or put us on a type Biometric system...

Then no doubt they will have a system in place to know that they have recorded us if we have taken the vaccines or not..

Exactly what they can do to us if they achive doing this... is the big question ?

and some may ask why ?   WHY do they need to think they need to do this..

It just seems that if they can ... it will save so much time and money in lots of issues in relation to Human problems..
and further monitor us all in huge detail..no one will be able to do anything without them knowing...
but we will all then be part Cyborg..

As much as we may want to reduce crime... Many people thru out history and some of our relatives have prospered from certain illegal activities..

and if future generations have this taken away from them.... to some degree.... it may well well end them..or there species.. unless they obtain other suitable means to obtain money...which for some are less oportunity to do so..

as a large majorty of people would have done something that could be viewed criminal..ie steal something... cheat in an exam.. or give false job descriptions etc..

If they did come up with some chip / vaccine that could help improve us in various ways... such as monitor our health.. cells in the body...fight against bad genes..in ref to DNA etc...and maybe improve our mental abilities etc..

I wonder how people view that..

But are they going to help improve our Intellegence.. that could be a positive to us and them...
but I am sure it will still become restricted to what ever level that they want us at..


Quote Ellirium113

Quote
Seems like there is merit to the Bill Gates Vaccine conspiracy after all...

Testing Will Begin In Africa For Biometric ID, "Vaccine Records," & "Payment Systems"


https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/testing-will-begin-in-africa-for-biometric-id-vaccine-records-payment-systems_07162020
Bill Gates sees RNA vaccines as best options for quick coronavirus treatment


https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/495650-bill-gates-sees-rna-vaccines-as-best-options-forVaccines That Change your DNA & Gates' Italian Experiment

kevin

Quote from: astr0144 on July 22, 2020, 12:27:52 PM
Do you think you will wear a mask Kevin ?

Or maybe at least initially not do so and see what happens..
I suspect a fair ammount of people may not... and will to see just how the law / authorities will react to them not doing so.

I myself do not want to wear one... I feel its a phobia to me... but if you are denyed access to entering shops.. we have no choice.

I also some people wil go to their doctors to get some sort of certificate to say they are exempt..
I know if I am really convinced that they will make that much difference...

yes they stop initial sneezing spread... but some particals will still become airbourne and it probably will only take a minute particle to effect someone ... (if this thing is as they describe)

They are saying in the UK.. that children under 11 dont have to wear masks...

and are being given something like an AP that they can carry on their phones to show any shop keeper or complainer.. if they are not say initially aware of the age exemption/ or think they look older than 11 yrs.......that they can show any disbelievers...

WILL this work ok for them  ?  who knows .... but it will be interesting to see..





The suggestion of the NANO technology if truth as Alex Jones described if I recall in one of his videos.. seems very disturbing if what it says is truth...

and I would have hoped that People Like Trump.. if they are aware of this.. would expose it..

If we have no one trustworthy to confirm or deny this.. we are left in the dark... and certainly will be affraid of considering any vaccine..

The other things about Vaccines that Alex Jones has made claims about.... is that he and some other people have in the past somehow or other... appear to have claimed that they never allowed any of their children to have been given any vaccines..

I thought that the Systems (esp in the UK  at early or early School level ) enforced some vaccines maybe like Small Pox..

So How did he get away with that I wonder..

and he has said that vaccines often impair ones intellegence development..or create mental issues later i Life..

and he says generally we are rarely at threat from anything...that is of the known past threats..(unless we may go to certain Countries where the threat may still be like in Africa)


I have a friend who has a doctors note saying he doesn't have to wear a mask due to Him been claustrophobic
Which made Me laugh.

If You don't wear a mask in shops the people there will turn on You, this is how the vaccine will be made mandatory, the masks are dangerous to the wearer due to breathing back in what Your body is trying to rid itself of constantly.

This is nothing more than an attack on humans, it is lunacy, and the amount of discarded masks everywhere is disgusting, they should have been made biodegradable.

I work two days a week at a recycle centre, it is disgusting what is been dumped.


kevin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeVf8Bq1knk&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3TA60WcQMtKKeScqj9CbTBb8VQiKcSPDgRYo4HOAgHjrc_qfiA14V04cI

This lady is talking sense, especially with munchausens syndrome , as they are trying to make everyone think that everyone else is sick and dangerous, it is all an attack on humans.


Kevin