Pegasus Research Consortium

PROOF That Society is doomed   


1. This picture of old friends reminiscing about the good old days over a delicious brunch:

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2. This adorable picture of star-crossed lovers meeting for the first time:

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3. This picture of graduating seniors leaving high school for the last time, finally free from the shackles of standardized education:

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4. This picture of friends sharing a delicious Brooklyn pizza:

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5. This picture of a wonderful family giving thanks for all their blessings at Thanksgiving dinner:

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7. This picture of best friends heading off on a life-changing road trip across the continental United States:


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8. This picture of teens enjoying their last summer vacation, one that will no doubt change their lives:

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9. This picture of friends discussing the intricacies of love, life, and everything in between over fine wine:

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10. This heart-wrenching picture of brother and sister reuniting after a decade apart:

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11. This picture of museumgoers seeing the beautiful paintings of Thomas Cole for the first time, the sort of paintings that bring a tear to one's eye:

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12. This picture of friends getting a little wild while tailgating at the 'Niners game:

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13. This picture of eager moviegoers itching to see this summer's hottest blockbuster:

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14. This picture of a friendly teen capturing a moment he never wanted to forget:

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15. This picture of friends getting a bit wild at a birthday party:

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How it SHOULD be done...

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16. This heartwarming picture taken mere seconds before the man on the right proposed to his girlfriend:

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17. This picture of a nice young lady taking a new photo for her United States passport:

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18. This picture showing young love in its purest, simplest form:

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19. This picture of the girls watching the exciting conclusion of Pretty Little Liars:

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...And eating eggs, apparently.

20. This picture of best friends sharing a delicious burger and a coffee:

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...maybe it will go viral

21. This touching photo showing the difficulty — and the reward — of parenthood:

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22. This picture of a young man viewing the sunset the way it was meant to be viewed — through a tiny screen:

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23. And this adorable photo of a baby logging into her very first social network account:

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Hey lets not forget about these classics...

Flying and texting:

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Driving and texting:

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Drivers instructor makes texting mandatory to pass drivers test:  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbjSWDwJILs

Mum? Is that you?
No. 17  ;D  ;D  ;D

Well now Z, all of that is very interesting. But, with all of the online websites that anyone can go to, just to simply read and/or listen to the Biblical scriptures, doncha just know that probably some if not many of these noted in your prior postings are doing that - - - studying and learning the scriptures? ???

Yeah, RIGHT!!  ;D

For sure, with all of the "texting", people are soon going to forget even how to use/talk on a telephone. And a very bad thing about texting, it is very obvious that texting "conversation" takes so much more personal time to complete, with all of the back-and-forth, than does a phone conversation which covers the very same thought transfers. And that is a really sad thing relative to thought for "increasing productivity" in this world of modernization and technology increase.

On the other hand, some people, if not many, will utilize texting to "stay in contact" with others, more-so than they do or would do with just the telephone. So, the smart phones are not completely negative.

Then, if we take into account the vast /almost unlimited capabilities of the smart phones into nearly aspect of our lives, we should know that very very soon, they will be nearly more important to us, than is any other "tool" we have in our lives. Medical stuff with smart phones is just beginning to reach the point of creating entirely new avenues for patient care and treatment.

So, much seemingly bad/doomed....................but the jury will be out on this for a lot longer. Some/many of us are "older", but if we can pull up our "boot-straps" and think "Star Trek communication devices", then we might have a better feel for where we are headed with this subject "PROOF"!  ;D

It's ok, it's only their first implant.


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They will gladly accept upgrades as they become available.




Assimilation is complete.

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Quote from: rdunk on June 26, 2013, 07:51:32 AM
Well now Z, all of that is very interesting. But, with all of the online websites that anyone can go to, just to simply read and/or listen to the Biblical scriptures, doncha just know that probably some if not many of these noted in your prior postings are doing that - - - studying and learning the scriptures? ???

Have you seen the different versions of those scriptures on Facebook? LOL Glad I am not on Twitter, must be worse there

QuoteYeah, RIGHT!!  ;D

Oh  sarcasm... my bad   ::)

Britain has one solution...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pOuVylMFFw

The main difference here is that many of those people would have 2 or 3 phones.

Many guys have one for work, one for family and friends and one for the girlfriend(s)
And yes many girls have 2 or more also for the same reasons.......

I only have 1 and often forget it. Guess I am to old. I did like the 2 cans with the wax string idea...Too bad it never took off.

A thought that moves this OP subject from "silliness" to "truth" - the report in the link below is absolute "PROOF" that our society is "doomed".

A divided U.S. Supreme Court overturned the federal law that defines marriage as a heterosexual union, saying it violates the rights of married gay couples by denying them government benefits.

The proof is simple - "married gay couples" do not and cannot together produce children, for the continuance of the "human species". So, the "Society" as we know it will eventually cease to exist - I said, "as we know it"! The more people that become "gaily married", the more that "gay marriage" will infringe upon the basics of the lives of "families" in this country. Just like as with the Boy Scouts now floundering around with trying to somehow accommodate "open gays" in scouting. Yes, that may be the next thing we see being brought up to the SCOTUS.

We should now expect to see more and more such associated actions coming to and being decided by the SCOTUS, for the benefit of the few human beings with GENDER RELATED PROBLEMS - and yes, that is what it is -  that will again and again infringe upon the basic foundations of what has helped make a great society in this country.

Love and consideration of all is what is right, but to make decisions that go against the foundations of what is "existentially normal life" is simply just wrong. 

Say Bye bye to this great society, as we start looking for the  real "hell in a hand basket" to come!!  :'(

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-26/defense-of-marriage-act-provision-struck-down-by-top-u-s-court.html

perhaps DOOMING this SOCIETY is not such a bad idea

humans all need an upgrade to compassion of others...in a general sense

but with  input on the forming of rules for the whole...if any


if each of us were self governing on treatment of others in a compassionate
understanding way..then that society would be a step forward..

ok..enough from me.. back to the gardenand tending the plants

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Quote from: rdunk on June 26, 2013, 07:51:32 AM

For sure, with all of the "texting", people are soon going to forget even how to use/talk on a telephone. And a very bad thing about texting, it is very obvious that texting "conversation" takes so much more personal time to complete, with all of the back-and-forth, than does a phone conversation which covers the very same thought transfers. And that is a really sad thing relative to thought for "increasing productivity" in this world of modernization and technology increase.

It is already happening Rdunk!
No longer do people wish to talk, hear one anothers voice.

Its true to some extent why law's were introduced that banned mobile phones whilst driving.  Being someone who commute's about 120km each week on a bicycle I see people on mobile's quite often whilst driving and 'some, not all' are damn well forgetting they are driving over a tonne of metal at speed whilst gabbing on a the phone.   ???

We are quickly running out of hope for an end the world scenario too  ;D

Seems the last hope in that area is Ed Dames :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7RIgs3eygo

Elvis ;)

What irks me even more is how proven technique's of mind are being touted as technology.

Brain Mind Interface's are not Telepathy. So why are people so excited over New's item's that Label a Machine Interface as something it's not?  The US MIL have proven that the real telepathy does not need a machine! 

As evidenced in only one New's article! (One could spend all night finding these linguistic reference's to what it is NOT)

Telepathy shifts towards science fact

SOURCE:


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/telepathy-shifts-towards-science-fact/story-fnb64oi6-1226580214468

Quote from: A51Watcher on June 26, 2013, 08:07:28 AM
It's ok, it's only their first implant.


(http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/cyborg.jpg)


They will gladly accept upgrades as they become available.




Assimilation is complete.

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May the Gold be with you mate :D

People find it hard to believe that something else may be trying to interface with us through these very means !

Quote from: deuem on June 26, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
The main difference here is that many of those people would have 2 or 3 phones.

Many guys have one for work, one for family and friends and one for the girlfriend(s)
And yes many girls have 2 or more also for the same reasons.......

I only have 1 and often forget it. Guess I am to old.  I did like the 2 cans with the wax string idea...Too bad it never took off.

Deuem, the 2 can/wax string idea did do ok for awhile, but, technology just overwhelmed that idea, because the 2 can approach did not adapt. The 2 can basic approach would still be in vogue, had the original design been changed to "4 cans, with 2 cans on each end. With that design, the "hearer" would always be hearing "in stereo". Stereo has been the rage for a long time, and that is certainly my preference, and probably yours also!!

Actually, if Z sees this, he might just turn this into a new product to sell on his website!

But then, there is now another problem for the can approach. "Wireless" is upon us, so, some how even the 4 cans would need to be redesigned, even before the basic design is released, to make accommodation for wireless. Z would probably have to move this over to the research forum for the wireless solution! That is, unless TAP has a free no cost solution on this already!!! I am relatively sure that in a society where everything is free, they will have to use the can/wax string approach, just to keep communications "free"!!  ;D ;D ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

QuoteHumans (variously Homo sapiens and Homo sapiens sapiens) are primates of the family Hominidae, and the only extant species of the genus Homo.

Todays model of human Primate is most definitely near to being made obsolete.

A new Model is on its way and has been for the last few thousand years.

But LIFE itself, (NOT Flesh) is Eternal.

The age of "Energy" and its associated gadgets is almost over.

Bring on the new Model, which uses the "Technologies" of "The True Mind" i.e. LIFE or "Awareness" (NOT the Brain).

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 26, 2013, 09:28:32 PM
But LIFE itself, (NOT Flesh) is Eternal.

Well you know that old saying "The Flesh is weak, but the spirit is strong"?

I think I have reached the point where the Spirit is weak and the flesh is totting :P

QuoteTodays model of human Primate is most definitely near to being made obsolete.

I think this model has been obsolete for some time :P

QuoteA new Model is on its way and has been for the last few thousand years.

What is taking so long? Can they just print the new model on a 3d printer?

QuoteWhat is taking so long? Can they just print the new model on a 3d printer?

LOL...

Waiting for this model to run its course I guess.   :(

The obsession with this model of primate today, seems to be, it is hell bent on "Self Destruction"...

QuoteI think this model has been obsolete for some time :P

I agree with you 100% on that Z   :)

It's just that the human species can't get to grips with it I guess.   :(

Quote from: rdunk on June 26, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
The proof is simple - "married gay couples" do not and cannot together produce children, for the continuance of the "human species". So, the "Society" as we know it will eventually cease to exist - I said, "as we know it"! The more people that become "gaily married", the more that "gay marriage" will infringe upon the basics of the lives of "families" in this country. Just like as with the Boy Scouts now floundering around with trying to somehow accommodate "open gays" in scouting. Yes, that may be the next thing we see being brought up to the SCOTUS.

LOL!  Like...the overturning means more People will "go gay?"  Or that the small increase will somehow create problems for straights that They don't already have???

Love, the only REAL difference is that married People will have the same tax breaks regardless of the gender combo, and married gays can visit Their spouses in hospitals like hetero spouses can.

Oh NOES!  People who love People will get to sit at Their loved One's side in the hospital!  Heh.

Quote from: rdunk on June 26, 2013, 07:51:32 AM

On the other hand, some people, if not many, will utilize texting to "stay in contact" with others, more-so than they do or would do with just the telephone. So, the smart phones are not completely negative.

Then, if we take into account the vast /almost unlimited capabilities of the smart phones into nearly aspect of our lives, we should know that very very soon, they will be nearly more important to us, than is any other "tool" we have in our lives. Medical stuff with smart phones is just beginning to reach the point of creating entirely new avenues for patient care and treatment.

One other trend happening is that more and more we are seeing mainstream media viewers dwindling as more and more people can instantly access a variety of trusted news sites and avoid television...not that texting while watching TV counts as watching.  :P

Quote from: Amaterasu on June 26, 2013, 11:24:56 PM
LOL!  Like...the overturning means more People will "go gay?"  Or that the small increase will somehow create problems for straights that They don't already have???

Ducks Unlimited did a Study in Winnipeg years ago on why Mallard Duck turn gay...

... they discovered that whenever the population of Ducks increases beyond a region's ability to support those Ducks... male Mallard Ducks turn gay...

Natures Balance at work :D

Just thought I would drop that bomb :P

There are a number of species that do that - mostly birds.  There is a gull that "goes gay" when the population builds too high.

... and hu-mons?  :P

::)

[quote author=rdunk The proof is simple - "married gay couples" do not and cannot together produce children, for the continuance of the "human species". So, the "Society" as we know it will eventually cease to exist - I said, "as we know it"! The more people that become "gaily married", the more that "gay marriage" will infringe upon the basics of the lives of "families" in this country. Just like as with the Boy Scouts now floundering around with trying to somehow accommodate "open gays" in scouting. Yes, that may be the next thing we see being brought up to the SCOTUS.

We should now expect to see more and more such associated actions coming to and being decided by the SCOTUS, for the benefit of the few human beings with GENDER RELATED PROBLEMS - and yes, that is what it is -  that will again and again infringe upon the basic foundations of what has helped make a great society in this country.

Love and consideration of all is what is right, but to make decisions that go against the foundations of what is "existentially normal life" is simply just wrong. 

Say Bye bye to this great society, as we start looking for the  real "hell in a hand basket" to come!!  :'(


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With respect id say that is a load of twaddle mate,
You really think That this macho society is that great?
The reason the mainstream push marriage as a prefered option is just another control construct.
So they can nail you into the system with a mortage and numerous bank accounts, and insurance policies. So youl stay put and numb and belive what they are telling you.
A neutered little unit that is easy to fleece.

I must say i didnt expect archaic anti gay guff on pegasus.
>:(

Quote from: zorgon on June 27, 2013, 01:02:27 AM
Ducks Unlimited did a Study in Winnipeg years ago on why Mallard Duck turn gay...

... they discovered that whenever the population of Ducks increases beyond a region's ability to support those Ducks... male Mallard Ducks turn gay...

Natures Balance at work :D

Just thought I would drop that bomb :P

I think that bomb has already hit here. With the one baby law, all parents are doing what ever they can to have a boy, otherwise the family name dies out. I can see the population gender swing already. Just drive by any school. Some classes are now 70% male and I think on the rise. The condition will set up a problem in the future. If girls have their pick of the crop then what happens to the left overs? Women will be sold to the highest bidder by the means of a Dowery. I guess the left over guys will go gay or go rape or go duck. Either way it is going to be a problem.

Agreed Deuem, the Females in Ch1n4 are very neglected compared to the males of their parents. My Bros in law is Laotian/Chin3s3 and he has told me this years ago of the male being the off spring of choice.

Controlling divine conception to single out either Male or Female is a really bad idea, it will lead to dominant and societal structure that will collapse with out that balance. My Bros in law has three boys and one girl, she has been treated as a queen by her sibling's, but when they went to Vietnam too visit relatives, the premise was evident, even too her brothers, Girls are just workers and child bearer's as far as the male population is concerned with in these countries.

At least my nephews have found great success and treat women as equals of the same intellectual prowess that is thought to be equivalent to the Males of that nationality. Very good point you made, and very spooky too think of what "Could" happen with in such societal deniability.

1WW

Quote from: rdunk on June 26, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
Say Bye bye to this great society, as we start looking for the  real "hell in a hand basket" to come!!  :'(

A society is a living thing, made up with all the people that participate in it, regardless of religion, sexual orientation, favourite football team, etc.

I'm sure that some years ago people were saying that giving women the right to vote would be the end of their great society. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 27, 2013, 01:54:17 PM
A society is a living thing, made up with all the people that participate in it, regardless of religion, sexual orientation, favourite football team, etc.

I'm sure that some years ago people were saying that giving women the right to vote would be the end of their great society. :)

Precisely sir,

Have some space gold.

I don't text, have no phone that will do that and either email or call to make noise.

My two nieces will sit next to each other and rather than talk, will text one another. I was at a wedding and we sat at a table and those two were sitting next to each other texting each other. I asked, are you testing each other and one says, ya.

They text all day and sit on facebook communicating to the digital fake reality. The one just had her dad die and I was rather concerned she never let any of us know. I wanted to see him before he departed but because I didn't know of his grave condition, I missed him. She, writes on facebook, my dad died. No call to any of us, just a facebook post.

The one is totally disconnected from oral communication and will only text or facebook. I talk to this one and she is a friggin ZOMBIE and fails to respond. My other sisters kid also texts all the time and does so with one hand.

Youth is lost.

Elvis said, "With respect id say that is a load of twaddle mate,
You really think That this macho society is that great?
The reason the mainstream push marriage as a prefered option is just another control construct.
So they can nail you into the system with a mortage and numerous bank accounts, and insurance policies. So youl stay put and numb and belive what they are telling you.
A neutered little unit that is easy to fleece.

I must say i didnt expect archaic anti gay guff on pegasus.

Elvis, most of YOUR expressed thoughts are pure drivel! We have had a way of life in this country since its founding, and that "way of Life" is, we have been free do do pretty much as we please, within the bounds of established laws of the people.

It is very easy to spout off such stuff, but there is no basis for it, except in the minds of some - usually in the minds of the far leaning left people.

People in the USA do not get "nailed" with the things you say, as everyone is absolutely free to make their own choices in such matters. Each man is as each man does.

FWIW, I am not "anti-gay". But what I do not like is to have "abnormal" homosexual men and homosexual women being the basis for state and federal laws being passed that infringe upon the people's rights as a free normal Americans.

Homosexuality is very obvious abnormal state for a man or woman, as their basic design provides for copulation together, as a man and a woman, and not with same sexes.

Homosexuals do need help, but, new federal laws will not deliver the help needed to correct the problems.

As I said prior, if there are only homosexuals around, then society/man will be gone in less than 100 years. No kids, no society, no man!!

I am fairly certain that as with other birth abnormalities, over time, early birth detection of homosexual condition/causes can also be established, so that appropriate absolute corrections can be consummated, while in the infant stage.

There is one good thought in all of this, homosexual couples do not begat homosexual children either!

Quote from: rdunk on June 27, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
Elvis said, "With respect id say that is a load of twaddle mate,
You really think That this macho society is that great?
The reason the mainstream push marriage as a prefered option is just another control construct.
So they can nail you into the system with a mortage and numerous bank accounts, and insurance policies. So youl stay put and numb and belive what they are telling you.
A neutered little unit that is easy to fleece.

I must say i didnt expect archaic anti gay guff on pegasus.

Elvis, most of YOUR expressed thoughts are pure drivel! We have had a way of life in this country since its founding, and that "way of Life" is, we have been free do do pretty much as we please, within the bounds of established laws of the people.

It is very easy to spout off such stuff, but there is no basis for it, except in the minds of some - usually in the minds of the far leaning left people.

People in the USA do not get "nailed" with the things you say, as everyone is absolutely free to make their own choices in such matters. Each man is as each man does.

FWIW, I am not "anti-gay". But what I do not like is to have "abnormal" homosexual men and homosexual women being the basis for state and federal laws being passed that infringe upon the people's rights as a free normal Americans.

Homosexuality is very obvious abnormal state for a man or woman, as their basic design provides for copulation together, as a man and a woman, and not with same sexes.

Homosexuals do need help, but, new federal laws will not deliver the help needed to correct the problems.

As I said prior, if there are only homosexuals around, then society/man will be gone in less than 100 years. No kids, no society, no man!!

I am fairly certain that as with other birth abnormalities, over time, early birth detection of homosexual condition/causes can also be established, so that appropriate absolute corrections can be consummated, while in the infant stage.

There is one good thought in all of this, homosexual couples do not begat homosexual children either!

Your about to wish you had not said that.

If we are Judging Lezo's and Fag's, and those in-between then we really need a thread dating back to ancient time's. 

In Oz it would it seem that the Catholic Church has enough Clout to Bend the Rule's even when a very serious inquiry is being held in the highest court's regarding "Old Man has Sex with 8 yo" matter's. 

Why people worry about two people happy in union is beyond me... when people are abused as a child and they are still getting away with systematic abuse. 

I used to live next door to a Gay Couple.. Some of the Best Neighbor's I had. Why we even judge on this matter of sexual preference is quite insane... Look around YOU.  The Web is full of Comment's from Straight People Bitching About Straight People. 

Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on June 27, 2013, 09:11:41 PM
Your about to wish you had not said that.

Getting popcorn and more coffee 

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Okay so since this thread is about our doomed society...  I guess we can run with this... just keep it civil.

Quote from: zorgon on June 27, 2013, 09:28:33 PM
Getting popcorn and more coffee 

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I was going to make a brief reply to that prior post too, but.......I just like yours better!!

More popcorn please!!  ;)

I'm always civil.



Did I spell that right?

While gay may not be biologically sound, it is none the less a part of nature. We have studied it in ducks and other animals... so this is NOT a human only issue.

I do not understand why Christians in particular are so worried about it in particular when their own priests are being nabbed for that and kiddie diddling almost daily. The Muslim too tend to want to stone thme..

Yet the fact that animals also have the issue, seems to me that if your god exists... he programmed things that way.

And it certainly was accepted way back because the very terms Lesbian and doing it 'Greek style' go back to Ancient Greece, the isle of Lesbos


Now today Hollywood is pushing the gay agenda... even shows like Psych are full of not so hidden gay overtones  actually outright in your face.  "Lost Girl" has open lesbian scenes... the list goes on...  just about every show I watch these days is slipping in stuff

But then for all the bluster  most men don't have a problem watching two girls getting it on :P  And those that say they do are usually LYING   ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_tx2uJqh14

Quote from: Elvis Hendrix on June 27, 2013, 09:34:53 PM
I'm always civil.



Did I spell that right?

Livid, Civil .. meh who care's.. They both have an I and V.

IV drip's drips are common in metaphor's in this day and age of the Catholic Church ;) 

QuoteAfter 16 years in Federal Parliament, Bob Brown has resigned as leader of the Australian Greens.

Oddly his Boyfriend is Happy to get him Home to Help out around the house! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf2IbecK3-E

WHOCARES

Quote from: rdunk on June 27, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
Elvis, most of YOUR expressed thoughts are pure drivel! We have had a way of life in this country since its founding, and that "way of Life" is, we have been free do do pretty much as we please, within the bounds of established laws of the people.

Way of life?  Seems to me there is no particular pattern...  We had the MaCarthy era where anything you said and did made you a communist... we had our own Tiamin Square at Kent State, We locked up Japanese American citizens and confiscated their property just because those they LEFT decided to blow up a few ships (and got nuked for it)  Now we have lived to see the Pope resign in the face of sex scandles in the church. Today we have the proof that the NSA/Gov is truly spying on us as we have been saying for years...

So what 'way of life' exactly do we have?

Just asking :P

QuoteIt is very easy to spout off such stuff, but there is no basis for it, except in the minds of some - usually in the minds of the far leaning left people.

Well the far right leaning people funded Hitler into power and control all the oil and money :P

QuotePeople in the USA do not get "nailed" with the things you say, as everyone is absolutely free to make their own choices in such matters. Each man is as each man does.

Freedom in the USA is merely an illusion.... my parents had more freedom during the NAZI's than we do now...  At least NAZIs didn't grope and humiliate German citizens like TSA does

QuoteFWIW, I am not "anti-gay". But what I do not like is to have "abnormal" homosexual men and homosexual women being the basis for state and federal laws being passed that infringe upon the people's rights as a free normal Americans.

Sound pretty anti gay to me...  Biology alone will prove that it is natural   It is something that we were taught in high school in Canada but has since been suppressed. But I won't get into that right now

QuoteHomosexuality is very obvious abnormal state for a man or woman, as their basic design provides for copulation together, as a man and a woman, and not with same sexes.

Then explain why your god made homosexual animals

QuoteHomosexuals do need help, but, new federal laws will not deliver the help needed to correct the problems.

Now THAT is certainly anti gay :P  You cannot 'help' genetic makeup... your genes are determined at birth. To say they need help is really dumb

QuoteAs I said prior, if there are only homosexuals around, then society/man will be gone in less than 100 years. No kids, no society, no man!!

Which is why the study on ducks proved that nature turns ducks gay when the population increases beyond what the pond can hold. So perhaps we are seeing more gays because human population is rising :P  Nature always takes care of its own... your god programmed that :P

QuoteI am fairly certain that as with other birth abnormalities, over time, early birth detection of homosexual condition/causes can also be established, so that appropriate absolute corrections can be consummated, while in the infant stage.

Wow seriously?  "Ach ja  Ve can creat ze superrace!"  good luck with that :D

Quote from: zorgon on June 27, 2013, 03:46:27 AM
... and hu-mons?  :P

::)

Could very well be...  Has there been a study of the prevalence of gays in city environments vs those in rural settings?  As in percentages?

Quote from: rdunk on June 27, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
FWIW, I am not "anti-gay". But what I do not like is to have "abnormal" homosexual men and homosexual women being the basis for state and federal laws being passed that infringe upon the people's rights as a free normal Americans.

"ABNORMAL?"  Um... Homosexuality (& bi-sexuality) have been a part of the Human story in all history.  What's "abnormal" about it?  If it was something NEW, I might agree, but it is one part of what is normal that any Human might be.

I'm seein the gender compatibility issue as an epic reverse specie specific natural selection event curbing out of control reproduction rates. Civilizations go through a natural multiplier time period reaching unsustainable numbers where by it goes stagnant by forming same gender companionship.

As sickening as this is to me, it maybe how natural selection operates reducing populations.

Zorgon said, Biology alone will prove that it is natural   It is something that we were taught in high school in Canada but has since been suppressed. But I won't get into that right now

Then explain why your god made homosexual animals

You cannot 'help' genetic makeup... your genes are determined at birth. To say they need help is really dumb


Nope, homosexuality is not by "natural" design at all! As far as man is concerned, there is no genetic link yet found to indicate a genetic problem, for humans, relative to homosexuality. So, did they teach you in Canadian high school that homosexuality is genetic, by error? Saying it is may be a "feel-good diagnosis", but, if you can find an accepted absolute determination of "genetic proof" for it, please provide us with that information!!  ;) 

I don't speak "for God", but I do often repeat what he has said (what little I know). If you really want to know the answer to that question regarding "homosexual animals", and even homosexual man, I suggest that you ask God yourself, if you "earnestly" want an answer!!  His answer to most everything is in His Word, which is to be spiritually discerned, for true understanding - ie, just the "reading" of His Word (like we do with most books), may not result in its revelation. 

well guys..

here's my  view

on the end of the world last dec and on this

what ever your preferrence or opinion
one thing that i know for sure is

before the new anything can be built the old must be destroyed

the minds of those to continue  must be changed
and the feelings/judgement  towards others altered to hold compassion and acceptance

the minds/essences stuck in the hate and judgement get another ride on the destruction train

doesn't matter which judgement you are making... you just bought another  ticket



but hey.. what do i know  ::)

Quote from: sky otter on June 28, 2013, 12:23:48 AM
before the new anything can be built the old must be destroyed

You can make upgrades. ;D

Quote from: Amaterasu on June 27, 2013, 10:02:55 PM
Has there been a study of the prevalence of gays in city environments vs those in rural settings?  As in percentages?

most likely but I doubt they will be easy to find in this politically correct environment. But I will look

Found a Wiki article  explaining why it is difficult to do such a study in humans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

Makes sense...

QuoteYou can make upgrades.

what if that is what the gays are..upgrades?..hummmmmmmmmmmm

Quote from: rdunk on June 28, 2013, 12:13:58 AM

Man XY Woman XX  there are also additional possibilities XYY XXX XXY  I will dig up the data if it hasn't been wiped of the net :D

QuoteI don't speak "for God", but I do often repeat what he has said (what little I know).

You cannot repeat what god has said... you can only repeat what MAN has written that god supposedly has said

QuoteIf you really want to know the answer to that question regarding "homosexual animals", and even homosexual man, I suggest that you ask God yourself, if you "earnestly" want an answer!!

This type of cop out answer was PRECISELY what made me realize religion was bunk. Worse than NASA  "Never A Straight Answer"

QuoteHis answer to most everything is in His Word, which is to be spiritually discerned, for true understanding - ie, just the "reading" of His Word (like we do with most books), may not result in its revelation.

Where is this word written by god himself? I have not been able to find such a book. All I see is MANY books that CLAIM to be the word of one of many gods interpreted by man... and thumped upon by those trying to convince me that THEIR god is the right version.  Sorry that doesn't work for me..

Better idea, since you can so easily quote his word... YOU show me in your God's word where He answers the question about homosexual animals...

Fair enough?  No more cop outs

Quote from: Gigas on June 27, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
As sickening as this is to me, it maybe how natural selection operates reducing populations.

My point exactly :D 

Better idea, since you can so easily quote his word... YOU show me in your God's word where He answers the question about homosexual animals...

Fair enough?  No more cop outs

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Z, I haven't the slightest interest in how animals do what they do, relative to their copulation/reproduction. Nor do I for the fowl, reptiles, spiders, and insects. So, I'll not be answering that question for you.

Making any comments on the homosexual subject is like beating on a dead horse anyway. And with no actual descendents from such relationships, that is pretty much what it is - like a dead horse in the end.

I in no way intend any disrespect for anyone who reads my comments here. The facts are facts, and putting any type of "let's make it (homosexuality) look every day common and natural" is absolutely a wrong thing to do, for the "familial continuation" of the peoples of this world. As mentioned earlier, a more important step would be to find the cause  of the problem, and fix them - maybe an absolute prevention/cure for Aids could be found too!!


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No disrespect, but written in the "Roman book" referred to as the bible it is written...  ;)

"Judge NOT that Ye be NOT Judged."

Hmmmmmmm.

I thought this included church goers as well... or are they exempt ?   ;)

The Book of Law judges everyone!

Matrix, maybe you misunderstand what I said - I was merely trying to state the facts of the physical matter, in general. I don't believe that I was judging anyone, except if the facts are deemed judgmental of/by whosoever.

And I know of nothing even referred to as a "roman book" by anyone but you! However, I do suspect that your continuing references  to the Bible in that way, is intended total disrespect. That is one reasion I never understand your continuing to often quote scripture from the Bible??   :o

Quote from: rdunk on June 28, 2013, 02:59:28 AM
And I know of nothing even referred to as a "roman book" by anyone but you! However,

I guess "Ignorance" is bliss, to some...   ;)

But a little research may relieve that situation though..   :)

No "situation" to relieve! But thanks anyway!  ;)

My two cents, what is off limits becomes a goal.

How many hetrosexuals just live together now due
to its convenience? Many dont even bother to marry,
living together so long that they become common law
"marraige".

What is going to make homosexuals any different, time
will pass and they too will be content to live together.

Not to mention that as soon as the high profile divorce cases
hit the news, we will see it they get the same coverage.

My prediciton, the big winners will be the Feds, collect more
tax money and the lawyers will get more divorce cases.

Signs of the times......

Yes bts, and this subject has been discussed every which way for a very lot of years! I guess that one of the bothersome things now, relative to more recent open news discussions, is that it has now become political fodder, with absolutely no "real" compassion for those who have difficulties with it, in the closet or out of it. 

And the real blackspot of this on humanity has been the on-set of the HIV/AIDS virus. That has become a scourge over much of the world, and remains terribly high. Almost 2 million people per year are dying because of AIDS.

Here is a link to an article that includes several pieces of related information. In particular, the chart on "Global number of people living with HIV per year" is very striking. The chart makes it easy too see the true growth of the disease. This data also says that since the beginning of the epidemic, nearly 30 million people have died from AIDS-related causes.

http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

Quote from: rdunk on June 28, 2013, 06:51:44 AM
Yes bts, and this subject has been discussed every which way for a very lot of years! I guess that one of the bothersome things now, relative to more recent open news discussions, is that it has now become political fodder, with absolutely no "real" compassion for those who have difficulties with it, in the closet or out of it. 

And the real blackspot of this on humanity has been the on-set of the HIV/AIDS virus. That has become a scourge over much of the world, and remains terribly high. Almost 2 million people per year are dying because of AIDS.

Here is a link to an article that includes several pieces of related information. In particular, the chart on "Global number of people living with HIV per year" is very striking. The chart makes it easy too see the true growth of the disease. This data also says that since the beginning of the epidemic, nearly 30 million people have died from AIDS-related causes.

http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

HIV/AIDS virus also comes from other sources as well, including sharing needles and blood transfusions in earlier years.
HIV/AIDS virus also appeared in one of our antibiotics from the 1960's, Polio if I recall correctly.

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Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 28, 2013, 07:08:57 AM
HIV/AIDS virus also comes from other sources as well,.

yeah  from here....

Robert Gallo: The Man That Created AIDS
"I CREATED AIDS to DELIBERATELY DEPOPULATE HUMANITY - Dr Robert Gallo"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI

Rdunk,
My my what a spirited thread,

told you you would regret that ;D
I see all the heavy hitters have been out and tore you a new one. Which of course was extremely pleasant to read this morning.
anyhoo, I think this rather interesting article may be of some
interest to your good self.

New studies suggest those who express virulent dislike of homosexuals may have an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex. Researchers also discovered homophobia is more pronounced in individuals who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires.

The study is the first to document the role that both parenting and sexual orientation play in the formation of intense and visceral fear of homosexuals, including self-reported homophobic attitudes, discriminatory bias, implicit hostility towards gays, and endorsement of anti-gay policies.

"Individuals who identify as straight but in psychological tests show a strong attraction to the same sex may be threatened by gays and lesbians because homosexuals remind them of similar tendencies within themselves," said Dr. Netta Weinstein, a lecturer in psychology at the University of Essex and the study's lead author.

"In many cases these are people who are at war with themselves and they are turning this internal conflict outward," said co-author Dr. Richard Ryan, professor of psychology at the University of Rochester who helped direct the research".

Annd im back :)
So you see just because you cried, the first time you watched the wizard of Oz (cos you HAD to have those shoes) Does not make you in any way inferior to anyone else!
Or remember that stolen glimpse across that empty car park, from the burly policeman who took just a little to long to get into his car,  you watched him drive away and couldnt stop thinking about his arms!

Its who you are!

life is short!

Be the butterfly you always wanted to be,
Fly, Fly my friend.
Let the music sore in your internal mental cinema,
let the waves crash and the new rain drench you,
Sing, Sing, Brother !!
Louder and louder!!
tell them all.. THIS.....................IS..........................ME.

Back to the OP and topic.........My grandson is asking for Google glasses, granted he is only five...but just saying.
I have banned textting and use of mobile devices at our Sunday dinners.
Actual voice calls only, and no outgoing.
Attendance has dramatically declined among the various children, steps, and grandchildren.
It's not like we're forcing bible study on them, just want their attention long enough to see what's going on with them...
My daughter goes through I-Phones like licorice whips...
Andy

Elvis said,

"Rdunk,
My my what a spirited thread,

told you you would regret that
I see all the heavy hitters have been out and tore you a new one. Which of course was extremely pleasant to read this morning.
anyhoo, I think this rather interesting article may be of some
interest to your good self".

Elvis, what is presented in your reply are simply musings, likely presented by someone who wishes to convict all people with feelings of homosexuality. Absolutely nothing could be further from reality, for me and for likely all other "straight" people.

Quite frankly, I have ZERO interest in homosexuals and the homosexual subject. As I have presented in my comments in this thread, my interests are only relative to the real negative impacts of it upon changing the laws and morals of our land, and its very negative impacts upon the people of the world in general.

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
yeah  from here....

Robert Gallo: The Man That Created AIDS
"I CREATED AIDS to DELIBERATELY DEPOPULATE HUMANITY - Dr Robert Gallo"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI

For anyone who watches this video, it might also be worthwhile to also read this wiki data relative to Robert Gallo. This information does provide what seems to be a good discussion of Gallo's life, and his associated involvement into the virus studies.

FWIW, for me, I view what is presented in the video as being considerably less than believable. Dr. Gallo does seem much more believable with what he says in his responses to this guy's questions. Just my opinion of course, from watching the vid.  :o

The wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gallo

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 28, 2013, 02:36:55 AM
No disrespect, but written in the "Roman book" referred to as the bible it is written...  ;)

"Judge NOT that Ye be NOT Judged."

Hmmmmmmm.

I thought this included church goers as well... or are they exempt ?   ;)

As Oddly as it seems, that is how it work's in the Church, The Police Force and many other Institutions. 

One can either plug these search term's into a search engine:

inquiry into catholic church abuse Inquiry Australia

OR you can look at a Local National Newspaper that are doing a not so bad job at covering The Systematic Abuse:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/abuse_inquiry


Oddly Bikie Gangs who pedal a few drug's, have sex with the same sex are usually vilified.  LOL

Society is doomed if we can't get past these point's and grow up LOL   

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
yeah  from here....

Robert Gallo: The Man That Created AIDS
"I CREATED AIDS to DELIBERATELY DEPOPULATE HUMANITY - Dr Robert Gallo"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI

ah, so the search for God is over...he is Robert Gallo, as certain religidiots have posed that aids was invented by God......

And, as Elvis has posed, that means Gallo might be the worst homophobe of all, by creating a virus to eradicate all of the gays...he will assure himself there will be no temptation for his latent homosexual desires. His wife was surely pleased to hear about the successful virus he came up with..it saved her marriage(just a theory of course)

But, any theologan worth their salt will tell you gay sex has been practiced by the numerous religions of the world for thousands of years.

LE,

In current Oddity's of the World at Large, people will still Ignore the Systematic Abuse!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/abuse_inquiry

Just like NASA Hugger's think NASA run the Space Program, as do Catholic's think they are Beyond the LAW.  Odd pattern and I can't believe it's true mate! :D

Quote from: rdunk on June 28, 2013, 04:07:16 PM
Elvis said,

"Rdunk,
My my what a spirited thread,

told you you would regret that
I see all the heavy hitters have been out and tore you a new one. Which of course was extremely pleasant to read this morning.
anyhoo, I think this rather interesting article may be of some
interest to your good self".

Elvis, what is presented in your reply are simply musings, likely presented by someone who wishes to convict all people with feelings of homosexuality. Absolutely nothing could be further from reality, for me and for likely all other "straight" people.

Quite frankly, I have ZERO interest in homosexuals and the homosexual subject. As I have presented in my comments in this thread, my interests are only relative to the real negative impacts of it upon changing the laws and morals of our land, and its very negative impacts upon the people of the world in general.

Wow you really talk about homosexuality a LOT.

The speculation was on a verge of becoming interesting  ;D

QuoteOh dear, back to the end of the world and how society is doomed....nothing to see here, step along...

;D

Obviously, ignorance is bliss for some! Absolutely nothing said will take me down this typical gay debunker's "must be you too" road. I don't fall for such crap as is this!

So yes LE and Elvis, you do need to "move on", as there is nothing in this regard for you here, in the direction you are headed!! 

As regards to the Catholic Church, they have had a significant problem for a long time, both spiritually and in the flesh. But then, God will be the judge of that too!!

Nope, as a Christian I have no part nor relationship with the "Catholic Church". The Protestant Church has no in-betweens (Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and a few statues) for approaching God and talking with Him, as does the Catholic Church. Here is one scripture that says directly what we can do in this regard:

Hebrews 10

9 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus

††† ;)

Quote from: Littleenki on June 28, 2013, 07:15:53 PM
But, any theologan worth their salt will tell you gay sex has been practiced by the numerous religions of the world for thousands of years.

This is quite true...  In our medieval group we created a plausible timeline History.  That History place us on an Island off the coast of Wales near Tenby called Inys Pyr  or today Caldy Island...

Well our Monk plays a Benedictine Monk as persona... No here is an interesting set of coincidences....

First he is Jewish, and Gay (and very open about it)  So here he plays a Benedictine <onk.  When we creates our History we found a time frame where that island was not used (its a long story with very interesting coincidences that freaked us out LOL ) but for now there was a Monastary on the island...

Just so happened it was a Cistercian/ Benedictine Order and the monks re all gay. The order has been on that island for hundreds of years and there is a great ghost store in Henry VII's time :D  But they are a gay order selling perfume and chocolate on the internet

There is also this article;

Some Benedictine Monks [still!] recruiting Gay men (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/984475/posts)


Well they DO say that Truth is stranger than fiction... :P

Quote from: rdunk on June 28, 2013, 04:07:16 PM
Quite frankly, I have ZERO interest in homosexuals and the homosexual subject. As I have presented in my comments in this thread, my interests are only relative to the real negative impacts of it upon changing the laws and morals of our land, and its very negative impacts upon the people of the world in general.

I think you are looking at it from the wrong direction; the law will not change the morals, the morals are the reason for the change in the law.

Morals, like all other things related to human nature, appear first, and sometimes we do not even notice that we are changing or have already changed, but our actions will reflect that.

As for negative impact, I work near the register office (or whatever that thing is called in English, the office where people go to get a civil marriage), and one or two days after they changed the law there was a gay marriage there. It didn't affect me at all.

Some months later, a woman decided that the best way to end her marriage was with a shotgun, and she did it in exactly the same place where that gay marriage had taken place. That affected me.

Quote from: burntheships on June 28, 2013, 11:05:32 PM
Paedophile Priest 'Exposes Satanic Vatican Rent-Boy Sex Ring' 

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Version 2.0

As I recall, from watching that Penthouse documentary Caligula... :P

It was sex and debauchery that brought Rome down the first time :D

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QuoteI have no part nor relationship with the "Catholic Church". The Protestant Church has no in-betweens (Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, and a few statues) for approaching God and talking with Him, as does the Catholic Church. Here is one scripture that says directly what we can do in this regard:

The protestant church is indirectly linked to the Roman church, via. doctrine, within/through
this "Roman book". (bible)

Even though other churches have their own versions of the bible, which was Roman
i.e. of the Roman church, these denominations can NOT agree with each others Interpretations
nor with the Roman church !

If this were NOT the case, then there would only be ONE church.

The Carpenter was reported to have said,   "If a House is divided against itself, it shall Fall."



The Roman church was originally an institution of Roman Government under Government control.

Governments have used the church as an informant institution.

In past Roman Power Structure; "the holy Roman church" as it was referred to was above the armed forces,
along side the court (Law) system.

Check out your history books regarding this !



Re. that "Roman edition" referred to as the bible....

Any bible is just  another version of that Roman Book...

The Kings James Version  of the "Roman best seller"
some refer to as the bible ?   ;)    Including other VERSIONS of that book,
are simply Different VERSIONS (Different interpretations to please different believers)

I recall in those writings, it is reported that it had been said, through the carpenter,

"Let NOT you put your faith in anyone, except the Father Only."

The Word "ONLY"..... meaning singular.
In this case The Father and NOT any other including the "Roman book", called the bible today.

Yet the congregation follow after doctrine, laid down by church hierarchy
who are of the primate family !

Nether did that Carpenter ever make any mention at all, that such a book called the bible
or King James VERSION of the "Roman Book" (bible) would be published.

Nor did that Carpenter ever say to put your trust in the Roman book, referred to as the bible today.   ::)

It is ONLY the human Primate who demands, that one has to trust this book believing falsely that it is
the word of god from the beginning of the all before the earth was ever thought of.

The Only Ones who want to destroy the Earth, are the human species !

It is only the "human species" who want to be doomed !

WHY ?

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 29, 2013, 12:34:56 AM
The Only Ones who want to destroy the Earth, are the human species !

As far as you know. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 29, 2013, 01:08:19 AM
As far as you know. :)

Who else then, and why ?

But please provide proof...  :)

What started out as a bit of 'light hearted' frivolity by Zorgs, has now degenerated into a Religious minefield!
Time to discuss the original OP and 'agree' to 'disagree' on your religious convictions.

How the discussion of Mobile Phone useage turned to discussion of whether 'X' Brand of religion is better, is beyond me.
I keep my religious views to myself (Mostly), tolerate other views, and never rundown anybody else's views.
Just a friendly tip  ;)

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 29, 2013, 01:18:26 AM
Who else then, and why ?

But please provide proof...  :)

I didn't say that I know of anyone/anything wanting to do that, I just pointed (using your post as an example) that our opinions are limited by what we know. :)

Quote from: rdunk on June 28, 2013, 12:13:58 AM
Zorgon said, Biology alone will prove that it is natural   It is something that we were taught in high school in Canada but has since been suppressed. But I won't get into that right now

Then explain why your god made homosexual animals

You cannot 'help' genetic makeup... your genes are determined at birth. To say they need help is really dumb


Nope, homosexuality is not by "natural" design at all! As far as man is concerned, there is no genetic link yet found to indicate a genetic problem, for humans, relative to homosexuality. So, did they teach you in Canadian high school that homosexuality is genetic, by error? Saying it is may be a "feel-good diagnosis", but, if you can find an accepted absolute determination of "genetic proof" for it, please provide us with that information!!  ;) 

I don't speak "for God", but I do often repeat what he has said (what little I know). If you really want to know the answer to that question regarding "homosexual animals", and even homosexual man, I suggest that you ask God yourself, if you "earnestly" want an answer!!  His answer to most everything is in His Word, which is to be spiritually discerned, for true understanding - ie, just the "reading" of His Word (like we do with most books), may not result in its revelation.

Hmmmm.  If I go to Leviticus - where the most frequent quote about homosexuality I have seen is (I think there may be one or two more mentions - God CLEARLY was preoccupied with this issue), it also tells Me I may sell My daughter into slavery...  Do You have a daughter and are You planning to sell Her if You do?

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2013, 12:41:18 AM
most likely but I doubt they will be easy to find in this politically correct environment. But I will look

Found a Wiki article  explaining why it is difficult to do such a study in humans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

Makes sense...

Thanks, z.  My bet is that there is higher prevalence in densely populated areas over rural.  But just barely.  Statistically significant, yes; huge, no.  But I guess We'll never know.

Quote from: burntheships on June 28, 2013, 11:05:32 PM
Paedophile Priest 'Exposes Satanic Vatican Rent-Boy Sex Ring' 

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Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2013, 11:40:43 PM

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Version 2.0

As I recall, from watching that Penthouse documentary Caligula... :P

It was sex and debauchery that brought Rome down the first time :D

Actually, there is fair evidence that lead poisoning was the downfall of Rome - and it also increased the debauchery....

Quote from: Amaterasu on June 29, 2013, 02:23:02 AM
Actually, there is fair evidence that lead poisoning was the downfall of Rome - and it also increased the debauchery....

So are you saying Rome fell because they had more lead in their pencil?

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Cartoon Intermission  (Like they used to do in the good old days) :P


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Quote from: zorgon on June 29, 2013, 02:34:35 AM
So are you saying Rome fell because they had more lead in their pencil?

::)

LOL!  More like...more lead in Their PIPES.

This is why we are doomed

    Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 29, 2013, 07:34:56 AM (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4685.msg63375#msg63375)
The Only Ones who want to destroy the Earth, are the human species   

Statemnet from ?     "As far as you know. (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)"    We can't talk to each other let alone write well.

In English the Statement "As far as you know." in this text would be considered sarcastic. It is a polite way of saying "Your stupid" or "As far as you know fool. I know better than that!"  It belittles the person who wrote to. It sets up an argument. These are the words Trolls use.

The more political way of stating this would be to say something like.
this is not a Deuem opinion, just made it up.

"I think that the humans are doing a very good job at this so far but I also wonder if there is an outside source helping us hate and love. I have seen a lot of articles about Aliens, Ancient Aliens and even pixie dust. Does anyone think that outside intervention is assisting us down the wrong path?"

A relevant question is better than an arrogant statement.

You could use the text " As far as you know" But not in this style of a statement.

Or maybe a rephrase... Are You certain of that?

[shrug]

Over the web the tone is often missed in saying the things We say.  If I were to be grinning and winking and I chuckled out, "As far as you know," I doubt that You would have caught that unless it was clear in the context. 

Um.  Just sayin'.

Not to say that in this case that was the tone.

Just sayin'.

Quote from: starwarp2000 on June 29, 2013, 01:22:11 AM
What started out as a bit of 'light hearted' frivolity by Zorgs, has now degenerated into a Religious minefield!
Time to discuss the original OP and 'agree' to 'disagree' on your religious convictions.

How the discussion of Mobile Phone useage turned to discussion of whether 'X' Brand of religion is better, is beyond me.
I keep my religious views to myself (Mostly), tolerate other views, and never rundown anybody else's views.
Just a friendly tip  ;)

True that !  ;D

Being a bike rider I get to the front of the Red Light waitathon without doubt! 

Today My companion in a car in the waitathon had taken over my green bike box and was pointed in the direction of my way.  I thought that was something to look out for, but then saw her busily on her smart phone piss farting around and then thought how much she would pee me off holding up traffic when the light turned Green. 

WRONG!  Man she was almost out of the box on a red... Funny thing is that this intersection has Green Light's for Bike's Prior to the Gen Traffic Light's.  Blew me away how quick she reacted to the Green.. almost like she had a Hardwired Green Light!!! 

Quite Impressive reaction/intuition Skill's for someone driving Two, too many wheels LOL 

Is the Proof in this thread ?   ;D

Find your Topic and Run with it like the wind ! 

If it's true people will follow, If it's not true People will Follow.... WAR  :)

Quote from: Somamech on July 01, 2013, 08:08:30 PM
Is the Proof in this thread ?   ;D

Yeah...
Right here :D

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Here is more 'proof' :P

Found this on farcebook...

QuoteKathleen Yvette Wickens II
Dr Steven Greer announced that he was being brought to Australia in August with Virgin airlines to address a G20 summit on an island off Queensland and he is available to give a presentation to the public as well as a CE 5 at a suitable location for around 25 people. This could take place in the 3rd week of August. We are involved with those who want to help organize something and will let you know in due course what transpires. This will be Dr Greer's first visit to Australia. We are hoping he will do the presentation in Sydney but time will tell what he decides to accept. This is very exciting.

So Soma  LOOK OUT  LOL

PS  need to verify this first :P

QuoteQuote from: The Matrix Traveller on June 29, 2013, 07:34:56 AM (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=4685.msg63375#msg63375)
The Only Ones who want to destroy the Earth, are the human species

Quote from: deuem on June 30, 2013, 12:27:13 PM

Statement from ?     "As far as you know."

Well we have more WMD's in the world to destroy a 100 planets. We even created the Doomsday Bomb... (cobalt chain reaction)

Are we the only ones bent on our destruction? Don't know, but so far no Alien invasion :D

Quote from: zorgon on July 05, 2013, 03:38:56 AM
Here is more 'proof' :P

Found this on farcebook...

So Soma  LOOK OUT  LOL

PS  need to verify this first :P

I knew they were creating that Zone of Nexus Mag for a reason! 

Where I sign up ?

DFAT says this :O

http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/g20/

Swindled again by truth seekers dang it

Quote from: zorgon on July 05, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
Well we have more WMD's in the world to destroy a 100 planets. We even created the Doomsday Bomb... (cobalt chain reaction)

Are we the only ones bent on our destruction? Don't know, but so far no Alien invasion :D

*I* don't have ANY of those.  I don't know ANYONE personally that does. I DO know the psychopaths that always matriculate to the top of the money/power heap DO have toadies with that kinda stuff at Their avail...  But to blame THAT on ALL of Us hapless Humans is extremely unfair to Humans as a whole.

Well just go out on July 4th and see what those hu-mons do when you put small bombs in there hands. Why do you think they made the good fireworks illegal? :P

as regards alien invasion:

i dunno, i have always wondered why politicians seem to make a complete 180 once they get in office.  almost like they get possessed like in invasion of the body snatchers and turn into something not quite human.

Quote from: undo11 on July 09, 2013, 03:25:13 AM
as regards alien invasion:

i dunno, i have always wondered why politicians seem to make a complete 180 once they get in office.  almost like they get possessed like in invasion of the body snatchers and turn into something not quite human.

I remember being hopeful when Jimmy carter was running for office, he promised to release all the files on UFO's the government had, primarily because he and his whole family had a close sighting on their farm in Georgia.

Then he made it an got in office and then... nada, not a peep about UFO's.

I always wondered what became of his big fat promise.

Then one day in the 90's I was reading an article in UFO magazine about how a female reporter went to one of Carter's 'habitat for humanity' projects where he was supposed to be, an managed to wrangle an interview with him.

After a few softball questions about the habitat project, she lit into him about the campaign promises and whatever happened to that?

Apparently he looked shocked and stammered out "umm yes, well, they're still looking into it and we're not allowed to talk about it."

The interview was terminated at that point by security.


???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAGeJK8iYPE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJHbh2Yqjw0

Interesting how he was stuck on "Risk" verses "List"...

Also that provided we do not burn up from G.W. or  blow up from irresponsible acts w/ nuclear  energy and its waste, the younger generations will live to see the ET connection unfold.

Seems like there were some deep hidden meanings in what he stated and did not state in this video.  If he is about 70, then it will be another 30 years before this all begins to open for humans and the knowledge of the stars, life in the cosmos and our connection to the whole.

I enjoyed the video.

Quote from: zorgon on July 09, 2013, 03:21:11 AM
Well just go out on July 4th and see what those hu-mons do when you put small bombs in there hands. Why do you think they made the good fireworks illegal? :P

I don't know of any cases where fireworks were used as weapons of war...  Rather disingenuous to compare fireworks to WMD, eh?

But, yeah, Some are less careful than Others.

Wasn't the Boston bomb made with simple off the shelf Fireworks. No WMD here but a lot of power none the less.

Quote from: deuem on July 09, 2013, 05:06:17 PM
Wasn't the Boston bomb made with simple off the shelf Fireworks. No WMD here but a lot of power none the less.

Who knows the truth of it, Deuem. I think that was a lie constructed to give plausibility to the story that it was "terrorists."  The bomb seems more likely to have been constructed by the toadies of the "made for TV" events that was the Boston bombing - and Sandy Hook, Aurora, Giffords shooting and many more.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 09, 2013, 04:49:31 PM
I don't know of any cases where fireworks were used as weapons of war...

It depends, does this sound familiar? :)

QuoteO say can you see by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Well done Armap.
Bitty gold methinks.

Quote from: ArMaP on July 09, 2013, 08:56:20 PM
It depends, does this sound familiar? :)

May I point out that I did not say the TECHNOLOGY of fireworks has not been used.  I said that FIREWORKS have not been used.  BIG difference.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 10, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
I said that FIREWORKS have not been used.

You didn't, you said "I don't know of any cases where fireworks were used as weapons of war...".
SMALL difference, but still a difference.  :P

Quote from: undo11 on July 09, 2013, 03:25:13 AM
as regards alien invasion:

i dunno, i have always wondered why politicians seem to make a complete 180 once they get in office.  almost like they get possessed like in invasion of the body snatchers and turn into something not quite human.

Exactly what I concluded. They talk a big show but when in office, they roll over and go with whatever nefarious agenda happens to be afloat.

I knew a Doctor here in Wisconsin who ran for congress a few years back. He had TV campaign ads with him looking totally concerned and saying, "unbelievable". He was going to washington to change things.

Wasn't long and washington turned him around into one of them, a ZOMBIE.

I went to his appleton office to tell him to vote no on obamacare and had email him cause I didn't get to talk with him. He responds back, he supports obamacare after his constituents told him no.

He was totally turned into one of them. Unfortunately they got him out on 1 term. Even was stopped at the capitol and asked his position on obamacare and he was all for it as he ran off.

There is a power so in place it controls governments of this world when players join it.

Quote from: Amaterasu on July 09, 2013, 04:49:31 PM
I don't know of any cases where fireworks were used as weapons of war...  Rather disingenuous to compare fireworks to WMD, eh?

The only difference between fireworks and WMD's is that one has preety sparly things mixed into the rockets, mortars and bombs :D So people can say OOOOOOO  AHHHHH PRETTY

But the chemicals are the same  That is why good fireworks are ILLEGAL today

The Chinese invented fireworks and were the first to use them as weapons of war

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I actually tried those arrows in my youth using screecher firewors when we 'attacked' a boy scout camp usurping our island :P  We shot them over the camp away from anyone into the wate, but the effect was AWESOME  especially with a few set on the ground (safely) to give the impression of hits  Hey okay so I was a stinker in those days :P It was Seahawks againsts Boyscouts... long story to that :P

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I LOVE this one LOL runs along the ground and KABAM!!!!

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The stick acted as a simple guidance system that kept the rocket headed in one general direction as it flew through the air. It is not clear how effective these arrows of flying fire were as weapons of destruction, but their psychological effects on the Mongols must have been formidable.

Yeah it worked on those Scouts too :P

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Quote from: zorgon on August 10, 2013, 03:51:12 AM
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Even the grand master proudly rode his stallion across forums with the will to fight, now, he is old, tired, injured and goes by a caveat, good till midnite, but alas, even he is nowhere to be found these final days.

And do We not count these exchanges of information in some way Human interaction?  These are not workers at a job that removes communication in favor of productivity ala Metropolis.

These are People engaging in co-creating the Now with Those They care about.

Quote from: zorgon on July 05, 2013, 03:38:56 AM
Here is more 'proof' :P

Found this on farcebook...

So Soma  LOOK OUT  LOL

PS  need to verify this first :P

Indeed that event happened with greer in attendance but a fellow traveler who was to make an appearence there as well stated, they stole his luggage and personal belongings to show he was not welcomed.

That attendee is none other than Douglas Dietrich who said virgin airlines owned by branson, stole his gear and never found it at the virgin terminal in australia.


http://www.douglasdietrich.com/

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 10, 2013, 04:17:00 AM
And do We not count these exchanges of information in some way Human interaction? 

No human interaction would require them to put down the phone and actually talk to each other  After all they are all in the same room  :D

But They don't know these People around Them?  They have some relationship with the One(s) They are trading data with.

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 10, 2013, 04:35:16 AM
But They don't know these People around Them?  They have some relationship with the One(s) They are trading data with.

How do you know? It could even be a set up :P But if what you say is true... why are they afraid to actually use that phone and talk to their ONE? 

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and you say 'trading data' that doesn't sound like 'human relations' to me ;)

Quote from: zorgon on August 10, 2013, 04:42:02 AM
How do you know? It could even be a set up :P But if what you say is true... why are they afraid to actually use that phone and talk to their ONE? 

::)

and you say 'trading data' that doesn't sound like 'human relations' to me ;)

LOL!  That's all two way communication is - trading data.  Sorry if My approach to the subject is...I dunno...geeky in nature?

I don't know.  Thus My question mark.  Did Ya miss it?  Yes, We don't know the whole story of the picture.

It might surprise a few people here, to learn that I do not use a mobile phone, or any other handheld device.  I think they are evil things.

I keep wondering....... suppose telepathy or a supernatural empathy (Troi on Startrek) has been long denied to the human race?  Suppose this useful and greatly pacific facility was then to be installed within people en masse?  If this were scheduled to happen fairly soon,  what changes might we observe in society?

Large numbers of people engaging in ever more intimate and immediate communication - such as going from a hand cranked phone ....... to walking thru NYC talking out loud with a Borg-like clip on their ear.... to Google glasses...... to cyber implants(?)

I would also expect massive exposure of all matters sexual and emotionally explosive, as being made intimately aware of others day to day thoughts could be terrifying.  You would have to get used to it.

In addition, political structures would have to be reformed to cope with such a development.  Even a little would change things greatly (Arab Spring).

Are there reports of aliens who possess a kind of electronic telepathy? (Tall Whites maybe?)

So, whether natural or wireless, these trends might be good.  I don't know how I stumbled into this optimism, I certainly had none of it in my youth.

Quote from: petrus4 on August 10, 2013, 12:56:43 PM
It might surprise a few people here, to learn that I do not use a mobile phone, or any other handheld device.  I think they are evil things.

I don't have a mobile phone because I do not like phones, mobile or otherwise, as they force me to stop doing what I am doing to answer the calls.

They are mostly a waste of time. ;D

Quote from: Eighthman on August 10, 2013, 03:01:01 PM
I keep wondering....... suppose telepathy or a supernatural empathy (Troi on Startrek) has been long denied to the human race?

I used it several times, but, from my experience, it only works with some people and in some directions.

For example, I was able to, more than once, tell my younger sister to something natural, and she did it. The last time I "told" her to see what time it was, and as soon as I thought it she looked at the clock, then turned to me and stopped, as she realised that I hadn't said a thing.

I had a neighbour with who (or whom? I never know what I should use) I did that, I just had to mentally call her name and she looked back at me, even if she was already some 100 metres away.

I was never aware of being able to "catch" any telepathic messages myself.

PS: I never had any case in which I was trying to "call" someone and someone else "answered".

Don't you think we are catching telepathic messages all the time?
Not as language or commands as such but as general ideas and cultural swaying.
I firmly believe in the collective conscious. When I used to write and I was looking for titles etc, all around me would be folk using the same type of names at any given time.

I think it's cyclical and we have no idea ( most of us  ) that its going on.

But I would argue that it is.

Elvis.

I'm pretty sure We are missing that.  Whether it was deliberate on the part of the geneticists who created Our DNA strain is unknown.

Quote from: Amaterasu on August 10, 2013, 06:45:03 PM
I'm pretty sure We are missing that.  Whether it was deliberate on the part of the geneticists who created Our DNA strain is unknown.

I think it's very powerful and we need to embrace it.

It's happened for me in other ways,
Sometime a song would pretty much write itself, and I just felt like the shmuck who was there to get it on paper.

There are more things in heaven and earth horatio ;)