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Title: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2015, 07:32:20 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/walmart_china_flags.jpg)

Fact:
85% of all Americans have been into a
WalMart store at some time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FqKMKh2WA

Walmart Directly Tied To DHS - Inside Info May Have Prompted Store Closures - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FqKMKh2WA)

Published on Apr 16, 2015
Rumors and speculation is running rampant on the internet about the Walmart store closings.

Independent media hacks are jumping to conclusions ranging from "the stores are being converted to FEMA Camps".

"Closings related to JADE Helm" and many other paranoia-prompting posts can be found on the internet as of this report.

At this point, nobody knows the cause of the sudden store closings.

Pete Santilli & Dani Mcpherson cover the news regarding the mysterious and sudden closure of 5 major Walmart Super Centers.

In addition to the numerous reports in the mainstream and independent media, Pete adds some additional interesting information regarding WalMart's relationship with the Department of Homeland Security dating back to Hurricane Katrina.

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In this video Pete displays a picture of WalMart's "EOC" (Emergency Operations Center), and comments about the EOC looking more like an NSA command center.

Pete's family member (brother) worked directly for Walmart Corporate headquarters in Bentonville Arkansas, and informed Pete about WalMart's relationship with the DHS.

During Hurricane Katrina, the DHS coordinated heavily with Walmart since they have the resources to distribute disaster relief supplies.

Since then, Walmart has also worked directly with the DHS by installing pinhole facial recognition cameras in their stores, scanning customers, and uploading/sharing the data with the Federal government.

Important links regarding developing Walmart story:

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/loc...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04...

http://cdn.corporate.walmart.com/15/0...

http://adage.com/article/digital/face...

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40552073/ns...

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on April 16, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
God I hate Wal-Mart.  I fully support the closing of every one of their stores.  Corporate America at it's worst.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: rdunk on April 16, 2015, 08:06:40 PM
Hate Wal-Mart or love Wal-Mart, it is a company that provides very needed services to to we the people of this country. Though I am unaware of any reason to "hate" Wal-Mart, I suppose there are some people that have reason to hate most every company in the country! One thing for sure, everything that Wal-Mart is..............is totally because they strivee to satisfy the peoples needs. People wants low prices - - that is why 80% of Wal-Mart suppliers are located in China - then people gripe because Wal-Mart sells products from China. Just no way to please everybody, about everything!! But they do have a 100 million customers per week, so it is pretty clear that Wal-Mart is actually "pretty well liked" by most people!! :)

A bit of interesting info on Wal-Mart:


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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: burntheships on April 16, 2015, 09:04:45 PM
I avoid Walmart stores at all costs. Yes, I am happy to pay more
to go to my local hardware store. I would not mind if all their stores
shut down.  ;D

Buy local, shop Made in USA.

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Pimander on April 16, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
Farmers all over the world have been pushed into poverty by the likes of Walmart.  They have too much buying power and too much of the market.  As a consequence they can dictate prices so much that farmers have to sell up to massive multi-nationals and super farms.  Big Capitalism is not healthy for small business owners or working people.

They also keep wages down where they operate by having a virtual monopoly now most of the competition is gone or in a Cartel with them.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2015, 10:17:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZJZA3qQj8w

Weird Nationwide Walmart Closures Spark Conspiracy Theories - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZJZA3qQj8w)

Published on Apr 14, 2015
UPDATE: Questions Swirl Over Bizarre Walmart Closures

Theories are flying after Walmart stores around the country suddenly announced that they were closing down for six months to deal with "plumbing" issues.

Employees and customers are not buying Walmart's explanation that it is closing five nationwide stores for six months due to "plumbing" issues, with questions swirling about the sudden closures that left hundreds of workers unemployed.

Customers reacted to the announcements by expressing their skepticism at the "plumbing" explanation.

"Why is it just plumbing problems? It's gonna take them six months to fix up the store?" John Mambrl told WTSP.

10 News also reported that no plumbing trucks were seen at the Walmart in Brandon, Florida, while city officials said they had no record of any code violation at the store.

Officials also visited the site and found no evidence of any repair work taking place.


When asked why the five different Walmart stores all closed at the same time for the same reason, a Walmart spokesperson merely reiterated the plumbing explanation, leading shopper Norma Espinosa to ask, "How many things have they not said? That's scary."

As the video below shows, police resources are also having to be used to guard the closed Walmart in Tulsa, Oklahoma.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LFTtVfAVNs

Walmart Tulsa, OK. Shut down, DHS cop cars - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LFTtVfAVNs)

Published on Apr 14, 2015
Video I took at the admiral memorial FEMA Region 6. Walmart in Tulsa OK. April 14th 2015. DHS cop cars, no semis, no plumbers. Supposed closing for plumbing issues. Crazy stuff!


HOWEVER, we think that they may be, in fact, Tulsa PD vehicles... it DOES say POLICE on the side of the car... but, so do DHS cars (better to hide in plain sight).    :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/tulsa_cop_car_video.png)

"DHS" Cop cars in front of WalMart.


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This is a Tulsa Police Car.


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This is a DHS Federal Protective Service car. . . the slant-stripe is evident on all DHS vehicles, but they seem to prefers Explorers over sedans.

The city of Tulsa also denied that any plumbing permit applications from Walmart had been received.

ABC Action News reported that, "None of the five affected stores have sought any plumbing permits for future repairs."


"I think it's a lie, I think it's something else," another shopper said in reaction to the closure of the Pico Rivera Walmart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tVzT4iSERo

Pico Rivera, 4 Other Walmart Locations Nationwide Closed For Chronic Plumbing Issues - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tVzT4iSERo)

A Walmart official at another closed store in Midland, Texas denied that the closure was a method of trimming highly paid employees, who earn $14-an-hour.

Footage shot at the Walmart in Livingston, Texas shows shelves being emptied before the closure of the store.

Obvious Question: Is this a red herring video or did this happen at ALL of the other stores?

Six months to "fix a plumbing problem"?

We be calling horse-pucky... we can build a three-bedroom house in six months, or take that long to remodel madame's bathroom . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styxqFf5fu8

Livingston Walmart Super Center Shuts Down Indefinitely, 04/13/15 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styxqFf5fu8)

Published on Apr 13, 2015
Without warning, the Livingston Walmart Super Center announced on April 13, 2015. that they would close their doors at 7 pm and would be closed indefinitely. Footage shot at about 6:15 pm...


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Livingston_WalMart_6mo_closing.png)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1I7K0ufcyg

Major Operation Jade Helm 15 Alert! Walmart Stores close same day same reasons! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1I7K0ufcyg)

Published on Apr 13, 2015
5 plus Walmart stores close today claiming same plumbing issues and same repair timeline!

6 months!

All stores in Jade Helm 15 operation zone!

http://www.ktre.com/story/28791533/li...
http://www.newson6.com/story/28790343...
http://tbo.com/news/business/plumbing...
http://www.newswest9.com/story/287925...
https://www.intellihub.com/poop-hit-f...


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We are sure that this has absolutely nothing to do with this... :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/facebook_walmart_facial_recog_tech.png)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 16, 2015, 10:29:25 PM
Yawn.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2015, 01:02:50 AM
"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself—anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face... was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime..."


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Maginnis: 'Jade Helm' no precursor of martial law (http://www.onenewsnow.com/national-security/2015/04/16/maginnis-jade-helm-no-precursor-of-martial-law#.VTAn9ktQDlI)

A national defense analyst is dismissing the fears of "conspiracy theorists" that a large-scale military exercise planned for this summer is part of a government plot to impose martial law.

"Operation Jade Helm 15 (http://www.soc.mil/UNS/Releases/2015/March/150324-03.html)" is a major exercise involving elite service members from all four branches of the military.

Army Special Operations Command has announced it will begin on July 15 and run through September 15, and that the participants will operate covertly among the U.S. public and travel from state to state in military aircraft. Texas, Utah and a section of southern California are labeled as "hostile" territory, and New Mexico isn't much friendlier (see map).


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The Washington Post reports (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/) that the eight-week exercise has prompted widespread conspiracy theories that the United States is preparing to hatch martial law.

Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis (USA-Ret.), a senior fellow for national security at the Family Research Council (http://www.frc.org), explains that the military routinely conducts exercises in the western part of the U.S.


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Quote"The fact that we're conducting exercises working on battle skills is something that the American people should want us to do," he opines. "That's something that they routinely do – but they want people to be aware that they're out and about doing things."

And like The Post article, Maginnis doesn't put any stock into conspiracy theories.

"The military is prohibited – certainly by U.S. law; the posse comitatus (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Posse+comitatus), which dates back to the 1800s – of conducting real operations inside the United States," he explains. "They certainly don't conduct combat operations against any element inside [the country] unless there is martial law declared."

And Maginnis says there's no evidence of that being planned in the near future.



A closer look at what he speaks of from our friend Russ Vaughn:
                       
The Myth of the Posse Comitatus Act : This ain't Hell, but you can see it from here (http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=53862)
by Poetrooper, July 14, 2014

I recently put forth a rudimentary plan (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/07/militarize_our_border_oreilly_heres_your_plan.html) for utilization of existing military resources in stanching the flow of illegal trespassers across our southern border with Mexico.

Many were the commenters who were quick to tell me that such a thing is impossible because it is proscribed by the Posse Comitatus Act (http://books.google.com/books?id=CTA3AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA152#v=onepage&q&f=false).
This is one of those issues that naysayers like to throw up as roadblocks to any attempts to settle the problem of rampant illegal immigration.

"We can't use the military to patrol our borders because of the Posse Comitatus Act," they protest breathlessly with a reverence for that act that hints of constitutional origins, and therefore, sacrosanct.

Well hold on, all you legal buckaroos, while we take a closer look at this statutory critter that so many profess to know and understand and are even quicker to invoke.

Here it is in all its sanctity:
Sec. 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.



Now that's not really all that complicated, is it? What's not to understand? The simple legislative act says that the federal government cannot use our military forces to execute or enforce laws. The law was originally enacted by a Republican Congress as a quid pro quo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act) to Southern Democratic congressmen whose backing was needed to decide the presidential election of Rutherford B. Hayes.

Southerners were sick of the Union Army's occupying forces' interference in matters of local law and their representatives in Congress saw an opportunity for some horse trading. Republican supporters of Hayes agreed to the removal of federal troops from the occupied Southern states and sealed the deal with this brief bit of legislation that prohibited the use of federal troops for the purpose of enforcing civil and criminal statutes.

So the hallowed Posse Comitatus Act was really nothing more than a clever legislative gambit by southern congressmen to get the heavy boot of northern forces off the necks of their southern constituents, a rather ignominious birth for a minor piece of legislation that is now foolishly considered Holy Writ by too many of the uninformed.

But let's get down to specifics; Congress, as always, covered its butt with the insertion of the weasel words:

"...except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress,"

Thus, in an act of Congress requiring no more than fifty-two words, that august body let itself off future hooks with that excepting phrase. And do not delude yourself into believing that was by accident. Quite obviously, the lawmaking body of this country wanted to reserve unto itself the power to use federal forces in domestic crises.

It would appear then that the Posse Comitatus Act says whatever the Congress says it does. And if that Congress determines that the massive incursions on our border from Mexico constitute an exceptional threat, there is nothing in the law to prevent this nation from defending that border with the military forces necessary to do so.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2015, 01:15:31 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/greenBerets.jpeg)
Green Berets assigned to the 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne) clear rooms inside a compound
during a training mission held Feb. 20 at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida.
(Photo by Capt. Thomas Cieslak/ U.S. Army)


Why Operation Jade Helm 15 is freaking out the Internet — and why it shouldn't be - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/)

31 March 2105
The mission is vast both geographically and strategically: Elite service members from all four branches of the U.S. military will launch an operation this summer in which they will operate covertly among the U.S. public and travel from state to state in military aircraft.

Texas, Utah and a section of southern California are labeled as hostile territory, and New Mexico isn't much friendlier.

That's the scheme for Jade Helm 15, a new Special Operations exercise that runs from July 15 to Sept. 15. Army Special Operations Command announced it last week, saying the size and scope of the mission sets it apart from many other training exercises.

"The nature of warfare is always changing and U.S. Army Special Operations Command's mission is to make certain the Army's various Special Operations Forces are trained, equipped and organized to successfully conduct worldwide special operations in support of our nation's interests," Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a command spokesman, said in an e-mail.

"Training exercise Jade Helm is going to assist our Special Operations Soldiers and leadership in refining the skills needed against an ever changing foreign threat."
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 06:41:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLPu_5nFxcE

MAPLE RESOLVE: Huge Drill In Canada Starts April 20th, More Troops Than Jade Helm - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLPu_5nFxcE)

Published on Apr 13, 2015
Maple Resolve will be conducted at the Canadian Maneuver Training Centre in Wainwright, Alberta from April 20 to May 23. The exercise will involve nearly 4,500 military personnel from Canada, the United States and the United Kingdom.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Regardless of the source, some very interesting points are being discussed and this adds to the 'heads up' for those who would hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaOD8c8MHec

Breaking: Vets Planning Counter Jade Helm Operation - Duration: 15:13. by The Alex Jones Channel 42,143 views (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaOD8c8MHec)

Published on Apr 10, 2015
Alex Jones talks with Infowars reporter and retired Army Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs about what some veterans are planning to do to protest Jade Helm.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 07:10:58 PM
He says "one of the biggest things (most important) is THE LETTER OF INVITATION from the local and county officials..."

Such a letter DOES NOT exist at city or county level in Rabun County, Georgia, USA.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie2c3vRxCBE

Proof: Jade Helm 15 is for Surgical Martial Law Strikes within U.S. Soil for Training - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie2c3vRxCBE)

Published on Mar 25, 2015
Proof: Jade Helm 15 is for Surgical Martial Law Strikes within U.S. Soil for Training

If you can find a good radio scanner that picks up the military radio frequencies (225.00-400.00 & 138-144 mhz ranges in am & fm) you could pick up a lot of military radio traffic, some might be encrypted but I'm sure there will be some in the clear and also look into a good portable shortwave radio that covers the full spectrum in upper sideband and lower sideband . Here is a link to check out if you want.
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=2537

Fellow hams..just in case this is the real deal...we can be reached @ 'Joe' - W6AEQ
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: space otter on April 20, 2015, 07:16:25 PM


my first question is what the heck is jade helm

so I looked it up


http://www.soc.mil/UNS/Releases/2015/March/150324-03.html

RELEASE NUMBER: 150324-03
DATE POSTED: MARCH 24, 2015

PRESS RELEASE: Exercise readies SOF for threats abroad

FORT BRAGG, N.C. (USASOC News Service, March 24, 2015) - Members of U.S. Army Special Operations Command will train with other U.S Armed Forces units July 15 through Sept. 15 in a multi-state exercise called Jade Helm 15.

USASOC periodically conducts training exercises such as these to practice core special warfare tasks, which help protect the nation against foreign enemies. It is imperative that Special Operations Soldiers receive the best training, equipment and resources possible.

While multi-state training exercises such as these are not unique to the military, the size and scope of Jade Helm sets this one apart. To stay ahead of the environmental challenges faced overseas, Jade Helm will take place across seven states. However, Army Special Operations Forces (ARSOF) will only train in five states: Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Colorado. The diverse terrain in these states replicates areas Special Operations Soldiers regularly find themselves operating in overseas. 

The training exercise will be conducted on private and public land with the permission of the private landowners, and from state and local authorities.  In essence, all exercise activity will be taking place on pre-coordinated public and private lands.

The public can expect nothing much different from their day-to-day activities since much of exercise will be conducted in remote areas.  The most noticeable effect the exercise may have on the local communities is an increase in vehicle and military air traffic and its associated noise. There will also be economic gain: an increase in the local economy, in fuel and food purchases and hotel lodging.

This exercise is routine training to maintain a high level of readiness for ARSOF since they must be ready to support potential missions anywhere in the world at a moment's notice. 

During this eight-week period, ARSOF soldiers will use this opportunity to further develop tactics, techniques and procedures for emerging concepts in Special Operations warfare.

USASOC intends to conduct the exercise safely and courteously while providing the best possible training available for the nation's Army Special Operations Forces. State and local officials are being informed of the scope of Jade Helm and will continue to be updated as the exercise progresses.


...............................

the reference to the announcement  was here

Why Operation Jade Helm 15 is freaking out the Internet — and why it shouldn't be

By Dan Lamothe March 31

The mission is vast both geographically and strategically: Elite service members from all four branches of the U.S. military will launch an operation this summer in which they will operate covertly among the U.S. public and travel from state to state in military aircraft. Texas, Utah and a section of southern California are labeled as hostile territory, and New Mexico isn't much friendlier.

That's the scheme for Jade Helm 15, a new Special Operations exercise that runs from July 15 to Sept. 15. Army Special Operations Command announced it last week, see above article
saying the size and scope of the mission sets it apart from many other training exercises.

"The nature of warfare is always changing and U.S. Army Special Operations Command's mission is to make certain the Army's various Special Operations Forces are trained, equipped and organized to successfully conduct worldwide special operations in support of our nation's interests," Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a command spokesman, said in an e-mail. "Training exercise Jade Helm is going to assist our Special Operations Soldiers and leadership in refining the skills needed against an ever changing foreign threat."

The exercise has prompted widespread conspiracy theories that the United States is preparing to hatch martial law. Some examples:


3 tweets (which don't want to copy..sorry and a you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EssfbJhHJkU

In particular, some have expressed alarm about this map, which outlines events for the exercise in unclassified documents posted online last week. The Washington Post verified them to be legitimate by speaking to Army sources. They appear to have been prepared for local authorities.

(http://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2015/03/JADE-Helm-15.jpg&w=1484)

This map shows the military's plan during the exercise Jade Helm 15, which begins in July. (U.S. Army Special Operations Command map)

Several media outlets have noted that the Army has pushed back on the outcry, including
Stars & Stripes,
http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-special-operations-command-pushes-back-against-alarmist-claims-about-upcoming-exercise-1.335949
Army Times
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/03/23/usasoc-conspiracy-invade-texas/70345764/
and the Houston Chronicle.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Covert-warfare-comming-to-Texas-6157685.php

But it's also worth noting that the military has routinely launched exercises in the past in which regions of the United States are identified as hostile for the purpose of training.

Consider Bold Alligator, a naval exercise in which thousands of Marines and sailors have been involved in the past. The most recent version was launched last fall, and included amphibious landings to prevent insurgent groups in the fictional country known as Garnet — Georgia and part of Florida in real life — from launching attacks.

The map looked like this in Navy documents:

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2015/03/Treasure-Coast.jpg&w=1484)


In another example, U.S. Special Forces support fictional guerrilla forces in numerous counties across North Carolina in the exercise Robin Sage. Green Beret soldiers
http://www.fayobserver.com/military/special-forces-to-begin-robin-sage-exercise/article_50c6a54d-61d4-5f76-9573-5b15f30d701f.html
work to liberate the country of Pineland, and operate in close proximity to civilians, who are warned that they may hear blank gunfire.


Marine Special Operations troop also have an exercise that is in some ways similar and called Derna Bridge.
http://newstimes.augusta.com/latest-news/2013-01-23/marine-training-could-unnerve-area-residents
It spans several counties in western South Carolina, and includes some activities in Sumter National Forest.

Related on Checkpoint:
Marine Corps realigns its Special Operations, sends elite troops to Middle East
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/01/20/marine-corps-realigns-its-special-operations-sends-elite-troops-to-middle-east/


This high-speed vessel will launch a drone submarine and U.S. commandos in the Atlantic
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/10/30/this-high-speed-ship-will-launch-a-drone-submarine-u-s-commandos-in-atlantic/



Dan Lamothe covers national security for The Washington Post and anchors its military blog, Checkpoint.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 20, 2015, 07:20:00 PM
I am interested in anything and everything we can find out about this  whether real or BS.


ETA:

Stacy Yadon I live in Midland Tx, one mile from the one that closed here in our town. I would like to know of any and all information that comes about please. Ron Schmidt if you have an interest in this would you help keep me informed? I did already know about the CNN post on WalMart and Homeland Security.

I want to bring Stacy over here... getting to hard to post at FB and here as well

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Great!
Under tornado warning and raining like hell...

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 20, 2015, 07:27:41 PM
Jade Helm, Walmart And DUMBS - Are The Closed Walmarts Being Activated As Central Command For Underground Operations?
By Susan Duclos - All News PipeLine


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QuoteAfter her initial video revisiting the massive underground tunnel systems throughout the United States and connecting them to the recent bizarre announcement by Walmarts in Jade Helm states, YouTube videographer Rise Together decided to start following links left in her comment section, which led her to a variety of sites, images and forum discussions where dots connect everything from the Denver International Airport to the Mantauk project to recent day headlines on Jade Helm, leading to a number of questions.

Such as, are these closed Walmarts being refitted to become the hubs, so to speak, or processing centers before allowing access into the tunnels? Is it a coincidence that the majority of closed Walmarts are in Jade Helm states or states that have recently had or are expected to have massive military training exercises?

For those unaware of what Jade Helm is, reference the March 13 article by Stefan Stanford which has the leaked planning documents embedded for the whole story, but as a short explanation from that piece, "From July 15th to September 15th of 2015, the US Army's Green Berets, US Navy Seals, US Marines Special Ops Command and US Air Force Special Ops Command will be taking part in 'Jade Helm 15', 8 weeks of night time drills in 7 states in the southwestern portion of America in which the states of Texas and Utah are both labeled 'hostile' territory in the 'drills' as outlined in more detail in the US Army Special Ops Command documents." (SEE EMBEDDED DOCUMENTS HERE)

DUMBS, WALMARTS AND UNDERGROUND TUNNELS

Everyone reading this is encouraged to click the links provided, research them and make their own determinations.

The maps below show the locations os the Walmarts that announced the sudden closings, all of which citing the reason as "plumbing issues," a map of the underground tunnel systems specifically showing the entrances and then an overlay of the Walmart stores that have closed with secret government facilities and the Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBS).

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(Locations where Walmarts are closing)

(http://allnewspipeline.com/images/WALMARTTUNNELArticle420.jpg)
(Alleged map of underground tunnels, entances, suspected entrances, etc..)

(http://allnewspipeline.com/images/WALMARTTUNNELOVERLAP2.jpg)
(The two maps overlayed)


http://allnewspipeline.com/Walmart_Central_Command_For_Underground_Operations.php
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 08:35:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrG5uAoGY08

Lt. Col Potter: JADE HELM May Be The Final Phase Of Multi-Decade Plan To Round Up Dissidents - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrG5uAoGY08)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pJ6Y4gdjAc

Phase 2 of Jade Helm 15 Is Emerging, UN Backed Gun Confiscation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pJ6Y4gdjAc0)

Published on Apr 7, 2015
It is clear that this administration is going after the guns and it will rely heavily on its "Mutli-national partners to accomplish this goal. Generally, this kind of bold move would require the implementation of a false flag attack in order to minimize public resistance.

In 2013, a plethora of potential false flag events were rehearsed by FEMA, DHS and their "foreign partners". Gun confiscation is clearly part of what is meant by "Master the Human Domain".

Reportedly, Phase Two of Jade Helm will consist of gun confiscation and there is ample evidence pointing to this strong possibility and it started with a very concerning act that involved the Secretary of State, John Kerry, and President Obama as Kerry signed the illegal and unconstitutional UN Small Arms Treaty which effectively bans all private ownership of guns.

There is one provision in the treaty that has received absolutely no attention in our mainstream media and that is the section having to do with confiscation and the use of foreign troops: State parties to the ATT "may seek assistance" in implementing the Treaty. The ATT indicates that a voluntary trust fund was established to promote the establishment of a multinational gun confiscation program.

I have learned that JH 15 will also use its "Mutli-national" partners in the upcoming drill, thus enhancing the strong possibility that foreign troops will be used to seize American guns.

Therefore, it is difficult to believe that gun confiscation is not on the list of activities for JH 15 and that my sources are correct.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 09:25:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoYolT3n_OU

SOCOM Plans to Invade HOSTILE Texas Revealed - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoYolT3n_OU)

Published on Mar 20, 2015
Infowars reporter Joe Biggs Exposes the psyop behind SOCOMS Operation Jade Helm 15. This is a plan for a brutal take over of America by Martial Law. This operation will help advance the governments agenda for a full take over of America by throwing Citizens in FEMA Camps. Also we will show you never before seen footage of Obama Deception 2.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Pimander on April 20, 2015, 09:29:09 PM
Just break into a closed down Wal Mart and take a look.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
Alex Jones "speechless" at understanding of immense implications Jade Helm 15.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jupyq1e3Tzc

FEMA Camp Takeover Set For Southwest - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jupyq1e3Tzc)

Published on Mar 20, 2015
Alex Jones discusses the newly revealed training operation that has the troops prep to invade the southwest.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 20, 2015, 11:05:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGKX2NlaAY

Steve Quayle Reveals True Purpose of Jade Helm Exercise - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGKX2NlaAY)

Published on Apr 2, 2015
Steve Quayle Reveals True Purpose of Jade Helm Exercise?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2015, 12:05:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxX05swEeFQ

FEMA 'Domes' Popping Up Across Texas Raise Concern Ahead of Jade Helm 15 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxX05swEeFQ)


More misdirection?

What about the Red and Blue X's on residential curbs and mailbox dots?

And PDD-13?  PDD-25?

Under some circumstances "the U.S. will agree to have a UN commander exercise overall operational control over U.S. forces."

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2015, 12:07:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2UE1atVklc

Jade Helm 15 and the Texas FEMA Domes - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2UE1atVklc)

Published on Mar 22, 2015
Researching these FEMA Domes located in Texas I have to ask now are these domes going to be used for something other then what they claim they were built for.

https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/258...?http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/new...?http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/...?http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...?http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/us/...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/specOpVets.png)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXaYNtMIGUY

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXaYNtMIGUYMilitary%20Lied!%20Jade%20Helm%20Is%20Training%20To%20Kill%20Americans%20Who%20Resist%5B/url)

Published on Apr 18, 2015
Footage out of California shows armed National Guard troops patrolling residential streets and practicing traffic control.Helicopters and tanks "scare" residents in Texas ahead of the Jade Helm military exercises, and American protesters are referred to as "enemy forces" and "aversaries" in National Guard documents.

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 21, 2015, 01:06:40 AM
I think the end game should be looked at. If this is just merely training for the troops, I can understand, but the REAL end game is Play!....They've been planning this for a long time, in fact I believe President Reagon first instituted this...not for sure on that though...Here is some things from 2008 and 2009....

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2009cbrn/Long.pdf

http://www.northcom.mil/Portals/28/Documents/FOIA/Con%20Plan%203501-08%20DSCA.pdf

http://www.northcom.mil/AboutUSNORTHCOM/FreedomofInformationAct/ReadingRoom/USNORTHCOMCONPLANS.aspx
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 21, 2015, 01:22:12 AM
We have seen so many of these kinds of claims in recent years...

the BIG QUESTION is WHY is this so open across the net?

IF it's real... why would they allow us to see it?

IF it's all false, who stands to gain from spreading this and who started the rumor?

It's kinda like "Follow the Money"  We haven't even figured out who ISIS really is yet
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: burntheships on April 21, 2015, 01:36:02 AM
Here is an interesting "MSM" news article. As far as I am concerned the only
value in it is that they claim to have actually verified that map, and the
document.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/

Quote

In particular, some have expressed alarm about this map, which outlines events for the exercise in unclassified documents posted online last week. The Washington Post verified them to be legitimate by speaking to Army sources. They appear to have been prepared for local authorities.


So, the map is real and the exercise is real.

Not to say that Jade Helm 15 is going to be fully disclosed to the public.
Even the patch and the name have implications, as usual with
special commands operations.

However, I have big hesitations believing the stuff Alex Jones is saying...
that they are going to be killing people who are resistant to the NWO
that have jobs in Texas government. That is a big claim to make,
it would be very obvious if this does or does not happen.




Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Amaterasu on April 21, 2015, 02:13:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4axw_VX1XE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4axw_VX1XE

Not sure I would use anything out of Alex Jones's camp...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 21, 2015, 02:22:34 AM
I think it all started with THIS

Homeland Security teams up with Walmart for safety
CNN Wires Staff
December 6, 2010 3:39 p.m. EST


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CNN) -- Walmart will join the Department of Homeland Security in a program called "If You See Something, Say Something" which encourages the American public to take an active role in ensuring the safety and security of the nation, DHS said Monday.
"Homeland security starts with hometown security, and each of us plays a critical role in keeping our country and communities safe," Secretary Janet Napolitano said as she thanked Walmart and the more than 320 stores who joined the national campaign Monday.
Participating stores, eventually including 588 from 27 states, will play a short video message at select checkout locations to remind shoppers to contact local law enforcement to report suspicious activity, said a DHS statement.

"This partnership will help millions of shoppers across the nation identify and report indicators of terrorism, crime and other threats to law enforcement authorities," Napolitano said.
The "If You See Something, Say Something" campaign was originally implemented by New York City's Metropolitan

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/06/washington.dhs.walmart/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZhvuxf0-c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZhvuxf0-c
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 21, 2015, 02:27:57 AM
Then there is THIS via Facebook

Army Logistics Speaks out on Walmart Closings+JH15

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(Don't have the link to the video handy yet)

Comment:
Gary W. Long: Who is this speaker and what is the original source of the video? I located the YouTube upload page, but it doesn't appear to belong to the speaker in the video.

Reply: Thomas Robert Lacovara-Stewart I am conducting an investigation into this....where it has taken me so far is not good. This man appears to be connected in association to the LUCIS or (LUCIFER TRUST) and a UNITED NATIONS non-governmental organization NGO. The deception appears to be starting full mode.......he is also connected to the kabbalistic Sorcha Faal Internet Hoax Site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-SygTpZSh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-SygTpZSh8

QuotePublished on Apr 20, 2015
The video presented has a man who is directly connected to broadcasting with the Lucis Trust, a Luciferian "Madame Blavatsky" inspired Organization. Is what he says true? I have not been able to confirm it. But as we are conducting two vastly separate cases, we are finding United Nations United Nations and more United Nations connections. Remember those in the disinfo game use truth to gain credibility and lies to divide.

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2015, 02:32:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9OBFG0Bfg

Jade Helm Precursor: The Phoenix Program - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9OBFG0Bfg)

Published on Apr 7, 2015
Vietnam... 1965 to 1972. The Phoenix Program was a CIA-designed and coordinated infiltration of the political infrastructure of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam, AKA the Viet Cong Communist Army.

The CIA had been covertly infiltrating Viet Cong strongholds to seek out names on their kill list. One of the tactics included parading innocent Vietnamese citizens around their village with a bag over their head and a leash around their neck, terrorizing all of the residents.

The Vietnamese citizen on the leash would then be instructed to indicate which house the Viet Cong informer might live. The next day, The CIA's Provincial Reconnaissance Units would kick the door down and kill everyone inside, women and children included.

The CIA's PRU would haul the Viet Cong off to regional interrogation centers where they would be tortured to extract information for the commanding officers and then the whole process would be repeated. Peter DeSilva, the CIA's station chief developed the strategy known as counter terror.

The use of terrorism as a legitimate tool to use in unconventional warfare. DeSilva strategically applied the counter terror to unsuspecting "enemy civilians".

Historian Douglas Valentine noted in his important work The Phoenix Program, that "Central to Phoenix is the fact that it targeted civilians, not soldiers".

With martial law plans that have been in place for decades, the globalist banksters that control our government see the CIA's approach in Vietnam as a benchmark in undermining U.S. sovereignty.

The Fall Of Saigon in 1975, marked the end of The Vietnam War. Communism won and The Socialist Republic of Vietnam was born.

The CIA lost the Vietnam War by targeting the citizenry.

And they want to try that on American soil?

With the Jade Helm Operations gearing up for summer 2015, treason's seat at the table of Liberty just got a whole lot bigger.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 21, 2015, 02:32:55 AM
April 16, 2015
US Special Forces In Yemen Take Over American Walmart Stores
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers


http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1861.htm

APRIL 16, 2015 by STARSHIP EARTH: THE BIG PICTURE
Intel on What is Happening at the Closed Wal-Mart Stores, a Map, and Drills Galore in California


I know... it's from Sorcha Faal, but everyone has been implicated as a disinfo agent at some point; Cobra, Neil Keenan, David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford, Dave Hodges, Alex Jones... At this point, what difference does it make? Hey, if Hillary Clinton can use it...

http://starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/04/16/intel-on-what-is-happening-at-the-closed-wal-mart-stores-a-map-and-drills-galore-in-california/
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: burntheships on April 21, 2015, 04:52:57 AM
Just posting for info sake.


Army Special Operations Command pushes back against alarmist claims about upcoming exercise 


QuoteU.S. Army Special Operations Command is pushing back against alarmist claims that an upcoming U.S. military exercise is a preparation for imposing martial law or subduing right-leaning groups and individuals.

Conspiracy theories about the exercise, known as JADE HELM 15, appeared
online this week. Some commentators railing against the event referred to an online slide show allegedly created by USASOC, which outlined a special operations exercise slated to take place across multiple states, outside the confines of U.S. military bases. In the slide show, a map of the southwest region of the United States labels Texas and other territory as "hostile" or "insurgent pocket." The document also refers to coordination with law enforcement agencies.

Officials at USASOCM were not able to immediately verify the authenticity
of the slide show because their computer firewalls prevented them from accessing the websites where the document appeared.

Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a USASOC spokesman, confirmed that there is an upcoming exercise called Jade Helm 15 which is scheduled to take place this summer at locations in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, California and Nevada. But he denied the event is preparation for some sort of military takeover.

"That notion was proposed by a few individuals who are unfamiliar with how and why USASOC conducts training exercises," he said in an email. "This exercise is routine training to maintain a high level of readiness for Army Special Operations Forces because they must be ready to support potential missions anywhere in the world on a moment's notice."  http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-special-operations-command-pushes-back-against-alarmist-claims-about-upcoming-exercise-1.335949 



Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: burntheships on April 21, 2015, 05:05:43 AM
UPDATE:Colorado no longer one of the states in Jade Helm 15 military exercise

Military unit unavailable for Colorado portion

Quote
Colorado will not be involved in the upcoming Jade Helm 15 military exercise planned in six other states.

Mark Lastoria, Director of Public Affairs, US Army Special Operations Command, told 7NEWS Tuesday that the military unit that was going to participate is no longer available, therefore no troops will be operating in Colorado.

The six-state training exercise will be conducted between July 15 to September 15.

U.S. Army Special Operations Command announced earlier that it will train with other U.S Armed Forces.  The announcement set off a firestorm of conspiracy theories and accusations that it is a "false flag" training exercise for an operation to declare martial law in the U.S. in 2016.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/colorado-1-or-7-states-in-jade-helm-military-exercise

Hmmm
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2015, 04:57:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ejwk7qJGM

REVEALED! 5X BIGGER Than Jade Helm 15!!! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6ejwk7qJGM)

Published on Mar 30, 2015
The internet will not always be free...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Amaterasu on April 22, 2015, 01:17:29 AM
I'm sure all these drills, terrorizing the People who live here, are just for foreign citizen control.  WE would never be the target!  Heh.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Dyna on April 22, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
I wonder if the JH15 and other exercises could be to deter a possible homeland war mounted by enemies within. I looked up the possibility of the US being occupied and it seems we are unbreachable accept if large numbers were able to gather inside our borders from an enemy nation unnoticed.

But what if large amounts of business and property were bought and manned by enemy combatants in the guise of simple workers?

A small tech company near us was bought by China and they brought their own chinese workers to replace ours.

QuoteChina is on the way to becoming the dominant land owner in the entire country, and that is starting to alarm a lot of people.  Do we really want a foreign superpower to physically own so much of our territory?
There are some that are playing down this threat by making a distinction between the Chinese government and Chinese corporations, but things work differently over in China than they do here.  In China, the government is involved in everything.
Quote
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-03/chinese-are-buying-large-chunks-land-across-america-and-zillow-now-enabling-it

QuoteHere are some of America's most famous brands currently held in foreign hands:
http://economyincrisis.org/content/many-american-made-companies-are-now-under-foreign-control
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 23, 2015, 02:42:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2NauQzirzE

Jade Helm 15 Operation WARNING by theoldmarine1 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2NauQzirzE)

Published on March 25, 2015
STOP THIS ACTION NOW -WARNING FROM the MARINES

"Some of us ain't playing along with this bullshit."

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 23, 2015, 02:59:10 AM
Quote from: Dyna on April 22, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
A small tech company near us was bought by China and they brought their own chinese workers to replace ours.

The Chinese bought Chase Manhattan Plaza, the Chinese are buying up home foreclosures in the US

Hmmmm

UNDER JADE HELM, CANADIAN TROOPS WILL HELP ENFORCE MARTIAL LAW ON AMERICANS
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/04/21/under-jade-helm-canadian-troops-will-help-enforce-martial-law-on-americans/

Oh NO  Not the....

CANADIANS
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 23, 2015, 03:01:34 AM
Texas judge denies Operation Jade Helm is martial law plot

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1171097/Texas-judge-denies-Operation-Jade-Helm-martial-law-plot.html
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: space otter on April 23, 2015, 03:53:44 AM

oh no !!!!!  mcdonalds is  in on it too..we're doomed.. I tell ya doomed


McDonald's is closing hundreds of restaurants this year

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/mcdonalds-is-closing-hundreds-of-restaurants-this-year/ar-AAbvQzc
















Some of us ain't playing along with this bullpoop."



yeah some of us know doom porn when we step in it....sigh

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Ellirium113 on April 23, 2015, 04:10:57 AM
Quote from: zorgon on April 23, 2015, 02:59:10 AM
The Chinese bought Chase Manhattan Plaza, the Chinese are buying up home foreclosures in the US

Hmmmm

UNDER JADE HELM, CANADIAN TROOPS WILL HELP ENFORCE MARTIAL LAW ON AMERICANS
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/04/21/under-jade-helm-canadian-troops-will-help-enforce-martial-law-on-americans/

Oh NO  Not the....

CANADIANS

Just so you know, if they aren't shooting you or breaking your spine they might one of the Canadian cops.  :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on April 23, 2015, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: space otter on April 23, 2015, 03:53:44 AM

yeah some of us know doom porn when we step in it....sigh

That's what I equate this to.  Fear mongering and soap opera doom drama.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 23, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: space otter on April 23, 2015, 03:53:44 AM
oh no !!!!!  mcdonalds is  in on it too..we're doomed.. I tell ya doomed


McDonald's is closing hundreds of restaurants this year

I am confused...

WHY is Walmart and McDonald stores closing BAD NEWS?

I thought everyone hated those two  :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on April 24, 2015, 04:52:17 AM
How about Target stores closing in Canada?

http://www.truthandaction.org/operation-maple-resolve-begins-canada-133-target-stores-close/

Canada's Operation Maple Resolve is a massive military drill to be conducted April 20th – May 23rd at the Canadian Manoeuvre Training Centre in Wainwright, Alberta and involves nearly 4,500 military personnel from Canada, the United States and the United Kingdom.

In timing with this, 133 Target stores in Canada have been closed. This bears an eerie reflection of Jade Helm and the closing of Walmarts.

According to one source, the significance of the closing of these large department stores coinciding with the large-scale Jade Helm and Maple Resolve operations is the fact that the military will use these stores as military distribution installations.

The source states that backdoor logistics software exists within these stores specifically to be used for military purposes.

In Canada, we have the laying off of 17,000 people across 133 Target stores that now lay empty. These buildings are huge, each being around 130,000 square feet.

So this is just a big OOPS? They mistakenly created all these massive stores just to turn around and close them?

more at the above link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBFivBxOryo

https://youtu.be/PBFivBxOryo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLPu_5nFxcE

https://youtu.be/DLPu_5nFxcE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5BInw5e4Ek

https://youtu.be/k5BInw5e4Ek


Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 03:47:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71GPrClEssE

JADE HELM 15 OFFICIAL TEXAS PRESENTATION - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71GPrClEssE)

Published on Apr 17, 2015

You should make note that Jade Helm will Now be Carried Out ANNUALLY.

Future Missions May Involve UN TROOPS!

He stuttered around on that part. He also mentions this will involve ALL Branches of the Military Including the DOD, DHS and FBI.

He also mentions the FBI Will be questioning people at an Airport In Arizona. So Heads Up People!

@12:40  "DEA and FBI will be helping us and doing questioning at the airports."

Travis Norseman 1 week ago
Whoa, he opened with,"we are not training for Iraq or Afghanistan, we are training for a future fight and that's why we need the help of the world community."!!! What the heck did that mean? Why do they need to train on American streets instead of NTC or any other military training center anyway?  That creeped me out. I'm starting to think they really are planning something crazy.

V See 6 days ago
Untenable situation. The prospect of a military force in your community using night tactics for 8 weeks every year is insanity. Grassroots need to really start grumbling LOUDLY!

Travis Norseman 1 week ago
Whoa, he opened with,"we are not training for Iraq or Afghanistan, we are training for a future fight and that's why we need the help of the world community."!!! What the heck did that mean? Why do they need to train on American streets instead of NTC or any other military training center anyway?  That creeped me out. I'm starting to think they really are planning something crazy.

MrGchiasson 1 week ago (edited)
So
So uh...let me get this straight..'training forward'...
You mean there are towns in the middle east that look like El Paso, Texas?
You mean that in the next 'event' our troops will walk down their street and the locals will just look at you as you patrol through their neighborhoods?
You mean that in the last 14 years of wars that our troops now need different training now?
Here in our towns?
Don't smile at me with your nice, professional presentation and tell me 'not to worry'.
There are going to be mass demonstrations and protests when you show up...
You can count on it.

Ken March 3 days ago (edited)
+Jp Doty
I SORRY but I disagree brother!
The only reason I speak so is that your assessment is too far off and so then is YOUR ADVICE to her.  This is not a pissing contest for me (as I know it's not for you) and so Please forgive my boldness?

You ended with:
"this drill is multi directional in all phases of war....there has to be peace keepers....we are at war...thats all you need to know."

This is WHY I differ:

(1.)  1.6 Billion "Hollow point" rounds that are Illegal by the Geneva Convention for Warfare but OK for killing us Civilians.

2. The NDAA and Agenda 21 that suspend the Constitution (and without merit) and call for Martial Law.

3. War-footing generally calls for a Military Draft. We aren't even 'told' about a War Coming. We have to deduce it! That's not right!

4. "Potential Threat Lists" consisting of former believers of "Core American Values and Service":
    Considered a "Potential Threat" is:
1. Vets (that's you and I brother)

2. Evangelical Christians (We made up a good portion of our Founding Fathers).

3. Those that Support:
A. The Constitution
B. First and Second Amendments
C. Tea Party members

4. Gun owners

No! My brother. This is Part Two of a Coup!

It's the Part where they Kill and/or Imprison their Opponents - That's we - the Patriots of all colors, sizes and persuasions!

Peace bro!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 03:58:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw1z0M2zZFU

Breaking! Gun Grabs Are Back! Jade Helm IS NOT A DRILL!!!! Phase 1 and Phase 2 Exposed! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw1z0M2zZFU)

Published on Apr 7, 2015
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 04:01:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRB05nsZmTs

Jade Helm 15 ~ An In Depth Analysis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRB05nsZmTs)

Published on Apr 7, 2015
Dave Hodges interviewed by Sheila Zilinsky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4kaN...
1 hr. interview edited to 25 mins. of the meat of the matter.
Dave Hodges site;: http://thecommonsenseshow.com
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 04:14:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngh3KiDc80c

Operation Jade Helm exposed - starting on July 15, 2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngh3KiDc80c)

Published on Apr 18, 2015
A financial reset re-alignment task force?
It Is more than that.
Here : http://american3rdposition.com/wp-con...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 04:17:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1TioKPjxE

Breaking News...Jade Helm 15 Pre Positioning Assets For The 2015 Economic Collapse Of America - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1TioKPjxE)

Published on Apr 18, 2015
Today I give all with eyes to see & ears to hear the proof that Jade Helm 15 is pre positioning military assets to quail mass civil unrest due to the September 2015 organized economic collapse of America.

In this video I give you the ways to protect yourself and your family from the dollar crash that is approaching sooner than any of you think.

http://wtaw.com/wp-content/uploads/20...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ch...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ch...
http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-will...
http://propheciesoftheendtimes.com/?p...
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/mark-this-...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/na...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 05:38:39 AM
This is an excellent summation of why we are in the present situation, IMHO.

Even Space Otter will appreciate this information. ;)

Or not.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-vpjwO_3aY


US civil War is Coming - Economic Collapse - Martial Law! - Gerald Celente (HD) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-vpjwO_3aY)

Published on Oct 23, 2014
US civil War is Coming - Economic Collapse - Martial Law! - Gerald Celente
Gerald Celente: Why An Economic Crash Is Coming & How To Survive The Coming Apocalypse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKId...
US Economic Crisis & Oil Prices and Energy Wars :: Jesse Ventura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74N6R...
Will The U.S. Economy Collapse And How to Preparing for Financial Armageddon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHaM-...
Great Economic Collapse & Currency Meltdown Is Coming Says Financier Robert Kiyosaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCh39...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: space otter on April 25, 2015, 03:14:14 PM


Even Space Otter will appreciate this information. ;)

Or not



it's OR NOT

my dear Thor
I think your energy is misplaced in hyping this and some other stuff.
but that is my opinion and it is opposite of yours..obviously.

I like you ..you make me think of my younger brother who isn't in the physical anymore...but I really don't think this or some of the other stuff will happen.
BUT if it ever does.. I will raise my fist to the sky and declare that
' that darn thor was right'
bwhahahahahahahahah

till then we will just haafta disagree on stuff

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hugs


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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Dyna on April 25, 2015, 06:15:18 PM
thorfourwinds, They say they will ask people for space for things, I wonder if they will instead treat the public like they did in Boston aiming guns at people and pushing Grannies around like they may be hiding the suspect under their skirt.

I feel there are many odd occurrences that people are not paying any attention to. An example we live in a small town of 7000 or so very isolated. A few years ago a vacant lot in the very center of town was suddenly fenced with razor wire on top, facing in, and a group of white vans and cars and trucks were parked there. Now they are supposed to be department of Human Services but there is already a fleet of those white vehicles inside a fence by the welfare Dept.

This is a lot of help for one small community. We notice starting a few years back each road in and out of town had some sensors installed under the pavement, even one that runs over the mountain a very rough and out of the way road. Then cameras were put up and our neighboring small town got cameras also.

Our city was given control of a huge track of former logging property which is supposed to be a park, but nothing was ever improved as the plans said it would a large section was blocked off with gate and sign it has its own power plant, we have noticed large piles of rocky soil but can't see what they are doing with any of it.

All of this could be nothing but it feels like something in preparation also both towns were told they had to let police officers go for lack of funds but then both got new fleets of SUV type vehicles many seem to be just parked all of the time.

I guess we will know at some point.

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2015, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: space otter on April 25, 2015, 03:14:14 PM

Even Space Otter will appreciate this information. ;)

Or not


it's OR NOT

my dear Thor
I think your energy is misplaced in hyping this and some other stuff.
but that is my opinion and it is opposite of yours..obviously.

I like you ..you make me think of my younger brother who isn't in the physical anymore...but I really don't think this or some of the other stuff will happen.
BUT if it ever does.. I will raise my fist to the sky and declare that

' that darn thor was right'

bwhahahahahahahahah

till then we will just haafta disagree on stuff

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZFScYNvOkqi_OR4SKhESt-jh0ABucXKG2UiouZNm9sJFN-1OM)

hugs

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSU4T950rzUPHUek70Ns_axbWxH3IW-2fIuuvXVZ831n9HCJhkR)

Greetings:

Who is this 'new' Space Otter?    :o

We were once told 'Space' is the newest iteration of 'Sky' Otter, who sometime
ago left our lovely home here at Peggy and said the main reason for abandoning
her true friends here at Peggy was 'Thor (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3822.msg51737#msg51737) and what he writes about' (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=7287.0).

Quotemy dear Thor
QuoteI like you

... were the true words of Love from the 'old' Sky, and we missed that. :(

We won't even ask what happened, as we truly love you and welcome you back
to the loving embrace and cuddly warmth here.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/You_are_tUniverse_600.jpg)


Yes, we have an association with the 'good guys and gals' at Anonymous.

opSafeWinter - Anonymous Worldwide (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=7616.0).

We will leave that at that.    ;)

And we truly hope that we are not 'dead wrong' in our feeling that Jade Helm
is not what the general consensus of those in the know who have decided
that this is IT.

The damning evidence and so many things dovetail against the weak protestations
of "trust us" by the Feds, who have a dismal record of false flags and lying to the sheeple.

We will continue digging and bringing to light information for discussion, as
knowledge is power (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keCG7z2cd50).


Quote"The more loving You become, the more intelligent You become."

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/TeamRabun2014Be-640.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0)

"It is us, living from the heart, that will literally change this planet."

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: space otter on April 25, 2015, 11:16:57 PM



sorry thought better of posting here will pm...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on April 26, 2015, 01:02:18 AM
Can someone show me a FEMA camp?

I have seen many claims on the net recently and all of the ones I have seen pictures of are some old abandoned  facilities and derilect rail yards that have no signs of recent activity.

I suppose I may have missed a post as I don't see them all but someone find me an active FEMA camp please

Now there IS GWEN CAMP  A Fema kids program :P

(http://www.ready.gov/sites/default/files/styles/slideshow-landing-page/public/FEMA_disaster_workers_2.jpg?itok=3Qn-GD7t)

But that is not what we are obviously worried about is it?

And there are some hot babes at Glen Camp media events

(http://www.washingtonian.com/gallery/assets_c/2012/03/standard_Corcoran-13-thumb-594x360-20837.jpg)

Oh silly me  Gwen Camp is the girl  LOL

FEMA ICPD Director Gwen Camp Speaks on Earth Day
https://www.fema.gov/media-library/assets/images/93731
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 27, 2015, 01:26:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMacBy-S53E

Joel Skousen Warns Of Massive FEMA Camps Being Built & Nuclear Attacks By The Elite - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMacBy-S53E)

Published on Apr 3, 2015
Joel Skousen Warns Of Massive FEMA Camps Being Built & Nuclear Attacks By The Elite

Joel Skousen about what you can do to prepare Surviving the Coming Economic Collapse and Martial Law

Illuminati Plan To Survive Nuclear Attacks - Elite Building Bunkers For Coming Nuclear Strike
https://youtu.be/mFU8TXH1kDo

FEMA Camp Takeover Set For Southwest
https://youtu.be/fE3vuUQFH8I

Russia Preparing For Full Scale Nuclear War with the United States
http://youtu.be/cxGyF7NyO5U

The World is Heading into Nuclear War By The Elite
https://youtu.be/LqwsLW9AzKY

Gerald Celente: The Next Financial Meltdown - WW3 - Breakdown of Society - War in The Middle East
https://youtu.be/G2PPcTitxhE

Gerald Celente on Europe: Greece joining euro was a mistake
https://youtu.be/YN7ruK5ve5Y

?Gerald Celente on U.S. and china-led infrastructure bank?
https://youtu.be/AAifMu5ctsY

Gerald Celente: Why An Economic Crash Is Coming & How To Survive The Coming Apocalypse
Gerald Celente About Gold, Guns and Getaway Plans
https://youtu.be/hwKIdgCYmM4

Paul Craig Roberts: Asian bank & The BRICS Signals the End of the American Financial Empire and U.S. Dollar Hegemony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kc_LAdWsz8

The coming 'tsunami of debt' and Collapse of the US economy in 2015 - Peter Schiff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rVcgDQQJZA

The Fed Has Left Us With The Highest Leveraged Debt Ratio In History - David Stockman
https://youtu.be/UPxRBXayRco

US civil War is Coming - Economic Collapse - Martial Law! - Gerald Celente
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-vpjwO_3aY

Alex Jones & Max Keiser - AMERICA is on the BRINK of COLLAPSE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL5VBSsmkqY

Paul Craig Roberts - The World is Heading into Nuclear War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-oHgB5RHDM

Homeland Security Preparing for Massive Civil War - Martial Law!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt42Kz_s15A

Build up to WW3 - The Real Story Behind Oil Prices - Paul Craig Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaVWaBG1ov0

Gerald Celente Predictions 2015: Disastrous Christmas, World War 3, US Economic Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvA6Dvc-QM

Gerald Celente Shocking Top Trends For 2015 - (12/09/14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz31MgvZm7U

Build up to WW3 - The Real Story Behind Oil Prices - Paul Craig Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaVWaBG1ov0

WW3 - Hillary Clinton Will Lead Us To World War 3 - Paul Craig Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elELmXH5xeU

JESSE VENTURA - THE US have started WORLD WAR 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb34XfzuTZ8

Jesse Ventura: America Heading Towards a Economic Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXj8q00JE2I

WW3 - US Government Is Preparing The World For WAR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUXyQNjjGx0

Top Hacker: Nuclear Attack Planned for Chicago in 2015 By The Elite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiqhJLwh670

Economic Expert: Next Financial Collapse and How to Prepare For It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gx4gbUZOs

US civil war is coming - Financial Collapse Is Coming - Martial Law - Gerald Celente
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbYXl42o1eQ

US Economic Crisis & Oil Prices and Energy Wars : Jesse Ventura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74N6RqT2nO8

Will The U.S. Economy Collapse And How to Preparing for Financial Armageddon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHaM-AyrA9Q

Great Economic Collapse & Currency Meltdown Is Coming Says Financier Robert Kiyosaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCh39BgPTEA

Major Financial Collapse in U.S. & World Coming Soon! Says Economic Expert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhmf8vyuENc

Gerald Celente on Economic Disaster 2015: Collapse Financial System & World War 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ggbtZo4aRc

Economic Disaster Coming & Collapse In Oil Prices In 2015 Says Financial Expert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0srkvnD1gU

?Paul Craig Roberts - Next Economic Collapse & World War 3 & Paris Attack False Flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrhcMboYVPo

Jade Helm 2015 Exercises - Prepare For Huge War in The Middle East? US Invasion of Iran & Syria??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1YRFVrt1E

Jade Helm military: Preparations For Martial law In America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXQusPWV6SE?

Martial Law Coming - We're Living In The Last Days of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGQUcfK3u0k

FEMA Camps EXPOSED: Entire Federal Martial Law Plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ZEshv9fH0

North American Union Will Drive Us To Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhCcCauZ1cQ

FEMA Camp Takeover Set For Southwest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE3vuUQFH8I

Texas Under Siege: Military Trains To Overthrow State Govt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQpo1-cS-9E
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Smilingtree on May 02, 2015, 02:46:43 AM
Zorgon thanks for all the "help" here in rounding up info on the Wal-Mart closures.  Living here in Midland Texas, right down the road from the one closed has caused a lot of suspicion. Although I have seen many pictures on FB with military personnel at our Wal-Mart, they are fake pictures that someone has photoshopped. I drive by there every couple of days and my children drive by daily on their way to and from work.  Jade-Helm is taking place to the east of us in Big Spring Texas, which is only 45 minutes away.  The map showing the underground tunnels overlays us here in Midland. There has been no plumbing work done and the lady that was answering the phone says that they have decided to close permanently! Also Google has taken this Wal-Mart off of its map (we have another one on the south side of town).

So while I don't claim that it is "doomsday" for us here, something is strange for sure!!

On a side note, one of our McDonalds less than a mile from the closed Wal-Mart has also shut down...... Hmmm! Lol! Maybe later on we will find some stored Lunar tapes!!!  :D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 02, 2015, 05:24:48 AM
Quote from: Smilingtree on May 02, 2015, 02:46:43 AM
Zorgon thanks for all the "help" here in rounding up info on the Wal-Mart closures.  Living here in Midland Texas, right down the road from the one closed has caused a lot of suspicion. Although I have seen many pictures on FB with military personnel at our Wal-Mart, they are fake pictures that someone has photoshopped. I drive by there every couple of days and my children drive by daily on their way to and from work.  Jade-Helm is taking place to the east of us in Big Spring Texas, which is only 45 minutes away.  The map showing the underground tunnels overlays us here in Midland. There has been no plumbing work done and the lady that was answering the phone says that they have decided to close permanently! Also Google has taken this Wal-Mart off of its map (we have another one on the south side of town).

So while I don't claim that it is "doomsday" for us here, something is strange for sure!!

On a side note, one of our McDonalds less than a mile from the closed Wal-Mart has also shut down...... Hmmm! Lol! Maybe later on we will find some stored Lunar tapes!!!  :D

Good to have someone in the area that can tell us what is really happening with no spin on it.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 02, 2015, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: Smilingtree on May 02, 2015, 02:46:43 AM
Zorgon thanks for all the "help" here in rounding up info on the Wal-Mart closures.

Hey glad to see you finally stopped by :D Welcome to our assylum.  The thing that first caught my attention was that the original source for this latest scare was SORSHA FAAL...  When a story traces back to Sorcha...  you can bet 110% it is a false story

But our team does tend to dig deep and pull up facts on both sides of the issue. Usualy the truth comes out.

QuoteLiving here in Midland Texas, right down the road from the one closed has caused a lot of suspicion.

Here in Vegas we are seeing a LOT of stores closing especially in certain areas.  Years ago when the economy was booming (going out of control) they opened new stores everywhere. Way to many IMO of the same type to close  together.

Walmart has been getting a really bad press lately what with their hiring of illegal aliens and undercutting other businesses. Seeing Walmart closing does not make me sad :D

As to the Government using Walmart as a key supplier?  ZOMG!!! If that were true we are truly DOOMED 

QuoteAlthough I have seen many pictures on FB with military personnel at our Wal-Mart, they are fake pictures that someone has photoshopped.

Yes FB has become a cesspool of lies, stupidity and deliberate obfuscation. A true Tower of Babble. People will share any old story never take a second to see if it is true or not  OR the damage they are doing by sharing false news. They don't realize that this makes them as bad and worse then the ones they accuse of lying :P

Try to inject some truth and real research, they will call you shill and unfriend or block you. How DARE you mess up their pet belief :D

QuoteI drive by there every couple of days and my children drive by daily on their way to and from work.  Jade-Helm is taking place to the east of us in Big Spring Texas, which is only 45 minutes away.  The map showing the underground tunnels overlays us here in Midland. There has been no plumbing work done and the lady that was answering the phone says that they have decided to close permanently! Also Google has taken this Wal-Mart off of its map (we have another one on the south side of town).

I am willing to bet that Walmart is hurting financially and so is McDonald  especially after Russia banned them because they don't sell food :P It is likely that the hammer fell and they were forced to cut back

QuoteSo while I don't claim that it is "doomsday" for us here, something is strange for sure!!

On a side note, one of our McDonalds less than a mile from the closed Wal-Mart has also shut down...... Hmmm!

Walmart and McD closing is a BLESSING not doomsday :P  But consider this  It is Walmart shoppers who eat at NcDonalds :P

The SCARY part is where will all those really strange Walmart Shoppers go now?

:o

QuoteLol! Maybe later on we will find some stored Lunar tapes!!!  :D


Wow I did not realize you have been following us that long :D Reminds me I need to contact Dr X again and get him over here too
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 02, 2015, 11:43:22 PM
Well...one of our Wal-Marts is adding a liquor section in Melbourne and plenty of their trucks coming in down here in Brevard County Florida.  They come in from out of state.  Our county seems to have an abundance of retailers coming in and I suspect that inventory may be shifting to areas that have a robust economy.  Our economy is gradually getting better.  I watch the freight come in....
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 12:30:52 AM
Corporations tend to follow the money :P

A local Mall here near me is upgrading the buildings. They are doing this because business has been bad...

But an upgrade won't fix it...

...because the mall is in an area where more people are going to shoplift at the stores than shop.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Smilingtree on May 03, 2015, 02:43:08 AM
Zorgan I am new to the forum but an avid reader and want to catch up!
Some threads I have started reading from the beginning!  ;D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 03, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
Well there are a lot of threads on a lot of topics :D  So have fun...

Feel free to start any if you have questions  A lot of threads are in specific areas and some not everyone has access to, If you have questions feel free to ask

I will be spending less time on FB going forward  It is hard to find many intelligent threads there these days, but the biggest issue for me is the sharing where on;y the OP gets shared and not all the follow up comments  so you end up repeating over and over until its lost anyway

At least here I can find my posts :D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2015, 04:03:38 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Obama-Takes-Responsibility-For-Drone-Use--124078.jpg)

17 Different Videos Showing Military Preparations for Obama's "Martial Law" Exercises (http://conservativetribune.com/17-video-martial-law/)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2015, 04:05:57 AM
Obama's calls for a private standing army was made at a 2008 appearance in Colorado Springs.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve
the national security objectives we set," Obama said at the time. "We've
got have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful,
just as strong, just as well-funded."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x_KouDCvMI

RAW: Soldiers, armor-clad police patrol Baltimore - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x_KouDCvMI)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 10, 2015, 07:23:44 PM
Judge Rules: Obama Social Security Card Fraud May Finally Get Answers

It took years for Watergate to unravel fully. The controversy over Barack Hussein Obama and his past, along with fraudulent documents continues to make headlines. Yet, the items needed to actually verify who Obama is continue to be kept from the public eye. Well, that all may be about to change. Attorney Orly Taitz may have just found a chink in the federal government's armor in protecting Barack Obama from scrutiny, following a judge's ruling over her Freedom of Information Act request from the Social Security Administration.

Taitz has claimed that Obama uses the Social Security number of Harry Bounel and has submitted several Freedom of Information Act requests for the information from the Social Security Administration. Each time, she has been met with stonewalling by the Social Security Administration.
However, Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander has ruled to give Taitz "an opportunity to file a second amended complaint and add allegations of SSA not doing a proper search and withholding records."

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/12/judge-rules-obama-social-security-card-fraud-may-finally-get-answers/
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 10, 2015, 07:25:06 PM
From Taitz's Press Release:

Judge Hollander in Maryland gives Attorney Orly Taitz 21 days to file a second amended complaint and add allegations in regards to an improper withholding by the Social Security Administration of records   of Harry Bounel, whose Social security number is being illegally used by Barack Obama. When Taitz filed the complaint, SSA did not respond at all. After the law suit was filed, SSA responded by fraudulently claiming that the records were not found. Taitz responded that this is a fraudulent assertion, since the records were found before and denied to another petitioner due to privacy concerns, however Social Security has no right to claim privacy as according to their own 120 year rule they have a duty to release the records. The judge stated that the plaintiff Taitz might be correct, however at this time she cannot rule in her favor as her original complaint was filed before SSA responded, so the judge gave Taitz an opportunity to refile a second amended complaint and add new allegations, stating the SSA responded but improperly hidden the records . This is a great development. This all but assures that the judge will order the SSA to release the SS-5, Social Security application of resident of CT, Harrison (Harry) Bounel, whose CT SSN 042-68-4425 was stolen by Obama and used in Obama's 2009 tax returns, which initially were posted on WhiteHouse.gov without proper redaction, without flattening of the file. Taitz will be very careful not to be Breitbarted or Fuddied in the next 21 days.

Additionally, there is an increased tampering with the web site of Orly Taitz and with her ability to send mass -emails. It seems her private server is somehow affected and Taitz is unable to send mass e-mails on two different programs.

It's interesting that Taitz points out that she will be "careful not to be Breitbarted or Fuddied," indicating that she believes that both Andrew Breitbart and Andrew Breitbart and Loretta Fuddy were targeted by Obama for assassination." Breitbart died on the very day that he said he would begin vetting Obama for the 2012 elections, which raised suspicions. Fuddy, best remembered as being instrumental in issuing the Hawaii long-form birth certificate, was the only person to die aboard a small plane that crashed off the coast of Hawaii last week. Already, there are questions surrounding the narrative of her death.

Taitz alleged that Mr. Bounel was born in 1890, and therefore, under the "'120 Year Rule' implemented by the SSA in 2010," pertaining to "'extremely aged individuals,'" Bounel's "Social Security applications have to be released under FOIA without proof of [his] death . . . ."
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 10, 2015, 08:37:57 PM
Very interesting indeed.  Let's see if the Social Security Administration leadership tries to stonewall this action by a judge. 
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2015, 11:06:23 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/when_the_conspirators.png)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OogW4XqhmQ

Meet The Patriot Act 2.0 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OogW4XqhmQ)

Published on May 5, 2015
The U.S. government is on the verge of passing a surveillance bill that some are calling the Patriot Act 2.0.

The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, aka CISA, will double down on all the bulk data the government has already been collecting on you. Plus now it'll allow businesses to share your personal info with the government and with each other – if they deem what you're doing a threat. But we all know that's open to interpretation.



Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 11, 2015, 12:06:09 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/and_he_causeth_all.png)


Cities and Local Governments Paving the Way for Federal Totalitarian Dictatorship: "Another Back-door Method to Gain Control" (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/cities-and-local-governments-paving-the-way-for-federal-totalitarian-dictatorship-another-back-door-method-to-gain-control_05082015)

8 May 2015

Number 1:  An Ordinance of the City of Kalispell, Montana was recently passed.  This requires all pawn and second hand businesses to send information of anyone who sells an item above $50.00 (yes, you see it...fifty dollars!) to an online database.

Ready for the kicker?  The database is called LeadsOnline.com, and law enforcement has access to this information on private citizens at all times, without probable cause.  The "intended purpose" (i.e. – the lie): to protect the public.  I am listing some quotes from the ordinance, and (to summarize their contents) I am numbering them as such:

   1.   An affected business is one that:
"...engages in the purchase, sale, trade, barter, recycling or exchange of secondhand goods, wares or merchandise; or any person who keeps any store, shop, room or place where secondhand goods, wares or merchandise of any kind or description, are bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged is defined as a secondhand dealer."

   2.   Information submitted to the database:
"The customer's name and date of birth and documentation..." and also "The current street address, city, state and zip code of the customer's residence."

   3.   "Business" compliance requirements:
"Every pawnbroker and secondhand dealer shall own, maintain and operate a computer system with Internet access.  Every pawnbroker or secondhand dealer shall electronically file all records identified in Section 20-3 directly to an Internet subscription service designated as an agent of the police department as prescribed by the Chief of Police.  The pawnbroker or secondhand dealer shall enter and upload such information from its records by no later than 5:00 PM on Friday of each week."
[...]

Item #1:  This effectively forces compliance on pawnshops, thrift stores, mom and pop secondhand furniture and house ware stores, gun shows, farmers' markets.  The phrase, "bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged" just means transfer in any way.  City ad valorem and taxes increase, but the biggies?

1) This is the backdoor method to outlaw private sales of firearms, and 2) Maintain an active database accessible to law enforcement with the name, birthdate, and address of someone who purchases a firearm (of course with the firearm information as well).
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 11, 2015, 12:11:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8sz3H3pUA

JADE HELM: Preparing for Armageddon - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8sz3H3pUA)

Published on May 8, 2015
GLOBAL | The world's armies are preparing for an armageddon scale war.

Not like anything we've ever seen in global history. Every nation of significance is drilling their troops for battle. The drills are the largest scale ever conducted by those militaries.

In the United States, the Jade Helm 15 exercise is poised to break all known records as Special Forces deploy to occupy 10 American States.

In Europe, NATO is conducting the largest ever military drills in world history. Tens of thousands of troops are preparing for war.

For the first time, in the Mediterranean Sea Chinese and Russian Naval vessels are conducting live fire war games.

Earthquakes are rocking remote corners of the world leaving behind thousands of casualties.

The earthquake in Nepal was so devastating that the highest mountain in the world, Mount Everest, shrunk by 1 inch.

In The Midwestern United States, from Missouri to Michigan, rare quakes rock cities and rural areas signaling the New Madrid Fault Line is under great stress.

Christians are being beheaded as enemies of Christ broadcast their murders for the whole world to see. These are the beginnings of sorrows.

Mark 13:8

And he causeth all... to receive a mark in their right hand: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark... Revelation 13:16-17
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 11, 2015, 01:08:30 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 11, 2015, 12:11:02 AM


Christians are being beheaded as enemies of Christ broadcast their murders for the whole world to see.??These are the beginnings of sorrows.[/color]

Muslims are the ones getting killed.

Jade Helm is an exercise. What in particular are you, personally, concerned with?

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 11, 2015, 05:17:32 AM
I live in Las Vegas...

It is peaceful here.  I do not see any storm troopers in the streets  in fact the only cops I have seen in the past few months are doing event security.

I went to a fantastic show where they were all wearing masks and helms :P

Perhaps Las Vegas is on another planet... I do not see the Marshall Law enforces preping anything

I don't see any FEMA camps  but I do know several people who got serious finaicial help from FEMA after a disaster  (though I am told that now if they help you need to pay it back when you can  - budget must be tight)

I guess I am just an

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/07/article-1264092-081D0A9F000005DC-144_468x339.jpg)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: space otter on May 11, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
you know I do believe we..all of us.. need to be forever vigilant..however what some go to great lengths to hype in their sharing makes me think they should be writing science fiction for a living..
and I want to ask.. WHAT ? ? Do you REALLY think that is even possible ?   

Z if your head is in that L.V. sand mine is looking up in the air watching the sky..oh and at this time in the growing season smelling the lily of the valley and lilac..ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anywho...you might find this interesting.. or not ..personally I'm going back to planting  ;D




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-stanford/the-pentagons-response-to_b_7251254.html

 

The Pentagon's Response to Ted Cruz Regarding Jade Helm 15

Jason Stanford

Posted:  05/10/2015 8:54 am EDT    Updated:  05/10/2015 7:59 pm EDT


Recently, Senator Ted Cruz from Texas asked the Pentagon to clarify its intentions with military exercises in Central Texas called "Jade Helm 15." The Pentagon's response follows:

Dear Senator Cruz:

Thank you for your inquiry into whether the Jade Helm 15 military exercise is the first wave of a federal takeover of Texas, the Trojan Horse, as it were, of the end of sovereignty in the Lone Star State. Our response, contrary to the long tradition of official correspondence and military bureaucracy, is concise: no.

But that's just what you would expect us to say, isn't it?

Perhaps, then, you would prefer not an official proclamation but a reasoned answer. As a master debater in college (Princeton, right?), you surely appreciate the reliability of logic, your public statements over the past few years notwithstanding. If you are disinclined to take the United States Armed Forces at their word when we promise no ill intentions towards Texas, then perhaps your considerable and vaunted intellectual powers, which once posited the regrowth of hymens as a guard against unauthorized incursions in domestic affairs, could be swayed by incontrovertible fact.

I know you think highly of our capabilities. Why else would you advocate for a short war with Iran? If we are indeed that powerful, we could probably launch an attack from any of the 15 U.S. military bases already within Texas' borders. While Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher may have found it necessary, even attractive, to invade countries that can easily be overrun, the present DoD considers such lopsided contests at best unsporting.

As someone who was not born within the borders of this country, it might interest you to know that Texas is already part of the United States. In fact, Texas has twice joined the Union. The first time your adopted state joined the USA in 1845 it set in motion events that led to the Mexican-American War. Later, when Union troops conquered the Southern rebellion, Texas rejoined the Union. It is not, therefore, farfetched to think that Texas' relationship to the rest of the United States could involve war, but please also keep in mind that when we refer to the United States of America, Texas is being implicitly included. We thought about calling it the United States of America and Texas, but we were afraid people might think Texas was a retrograde backwater of reactionary lunatics who think Moses was a Founding Father and laugh at you. This is way better.

Please also consider there are a great many things about Texas and Texan culture that could be threatened by another unnecessary armed conflict between Texas and the United States. We like Texas barbecue. That Green Beret who carried the flag out for the Texas Longhorn football team? That was pretty cool. The wildflowers along the highways are no joke. The late Texan Chris Kyle, the "American sniper," is a hero to many. Texas gave the world Lyndon Johnson, a staggering gift for which America was perhaps not entirely prepared. Without the Lone Star State, the Western swing band Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys would have appeared under the performing name Robert Wills and His Playboys, which is ghastly, or not have existed at all, a possibility that DoD has officially classified as "too awful to contemplate". And we really dig the self-awareness, the love of self that, while occasionally metastasizing into paranoid delusions such as those that motivated your original query, also make Texas a culture with an indelible sense of place.

But, we reiterate, that place is in the United States. On previous visits, we noticed that many of your residents enjoy Social Security and Medicare (you're welcome), volunteer for the armed services, treasure federal parks, wildlife preserves, and wilderness areas, and earn and spend currency backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. With a quick Internet search, I also learned that nearly a third of Texas' total revenue is from Federal funding. In fact, millions of your schoolchildren pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America almost every day. And unlike yourself, they apparently mean it.

There is a fundamental misapprehension that we feel is at the root of your query about our intentions was revealed in a recent comment you made to the press.


We are assured it is a military training exercise. I have no reason to doubt those assurances, but I understand the reason for concern and uncertainty, because when the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration, the natural consequence is that many citizens don't trust what it is saying.



If, Senator Cruz, you believe that the United States military is a political tool of its civilian leadership, you have reached a conclusion unsupported by fact, history and good sense. The troops swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States. To besmirch their loyalty to the country, even in the service of making hackneyed political points in the Republican primary, does not make you a patriot, but a partisan. Even a Princeton and Harvard Law man should know the difference.

Also, it makes you the rudest Canadian we've ever run across.

Sincerely Yours,

Secretary Ashton Carter

Elie Jacobs and Frank Spring, who along with Jason Stanford are political partners of the Truman National Security Project, contributed equally to this post but suffer lesser billing because of Stanford's inability to figure out certain technological hurdles.

Follow Jason Stanford on Twitter: www.twitter.com/JasStanford 


or



http://abcnews.go.com/US/jade-helm-15-facts-training-exercise-causing-jitters/story?id=30915367


video here I can't move it's one of my certain technological hurdles bwhahahahahahahah  ;)



Jade Helm 15: The Facts About the Training Exercise Causing Jitters in Texas



May 9, 2015, 4:17 AM ET

By ALEXANDER MALLIN



vid here if anyone knows how to make it work..sorry I don't
alex jones is again the comedian I see...


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  The Pentagon had to go public this week with an unusual admission that, no, it was not in fact secretly planning to take over the state of Texas.

It was the result of a building controversy inside the Lone Star State leading up to a series of planned military training exercises dubbed "Jade Helm 15."

But now, with several politicians and even actor Chuck Norris jumping in the fray, it's raising more questions about the exercise, and what is fueling the theories surrounding it.

What exactly is Jade Helm 15?

According to the U.S. Army website, Jade Helm is a multi-state training exercise taking place July 15 through Sept. 15 with members of U.S. Army Special Operations Command and service members from the military's four branches. While the exercise is taking place across seven states, the Special Operations Forces are only training in five states: Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Colorado.

But the exercises will take place primarily in Texas, according to the unclassified request for training from Special Operations Command, because it requires large areas of undeveloped land as well as access to towns.

The U.S. military is consistently conducting training exercises inside the U.S., both in remote areas and sometimes inside populated cities. And it's certainly not the first military exercise to occur inside the state of Texas.

So what, if anything, sets Jade Helm 15 apart?

In a March 24 press release from the Army, Jade Helm 15 was described simply as a "routine training exercise to maintain a high level of readiness." The reason given for picking out the particular states, including Texas, is because each possesses a "unique terrain" that soldiers might find themselves operating in overseas.

But also in the same press release, the Army specifically notes Jade Helm 15 being separate from the pack, noting it for its "size and scope." It led to several citizens raising their eyebrows over the idea of a surge of federal presence inside the state.



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What's the theory behind Jade Helm 15?

After an unclassified military Power Point presentation was posted online describing the exercise, various right-wing and libertarian-leaning bloggers noticed what they considered to be an alarming red flag.

Of the seven states included in the exercise, Texas and Utah were labeled according to a map's legend as "hostile" territories (as well as a southern pocket of California.) It prompted a barrage of posts from sites claiming it as proof the government was initiating the first stages of martial law inside the U.S.

Talk-show host and runner of the often conspiracy theory-laden website InfoWars.Com Alex Jones ran multiple stories speculating the map was a sign the feds were "preparing to invade Texas."






It's not the first time such theories have gained traction on the Internet. In January 2013, the U.S. Army conducted operations inside Houston and Miami. The pictures of Black Hawk helicopters and soldiers in fatigues running around metropolitan areas spurred social media posts claiming a government takeover was underway.

Why is Jade Helm gaining such notoriety?

ABC's Austin affiliate KVUE attended a meeting in Texas' Bastrop County that featured several citizens voicing their concerns over the planned exercise to Army spokesperson Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria.


As Lastoria tried to explain the logistics of the exercise and ease the community's concerns, several in the room shouted their disapproval and demanded answers as to whether Jade Helm was a secret plan to implement martial law or federal takeover of the state.

Lastoria said that a private landowner in Bastrop County reached out to the Army to offer up their land for the exercise.

Following the contentious meeting, Texas' new Gov. Greg Abbott stepped in by calling on the State Guard to monitor Jade Helm, explaining "it is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed."

This past week, Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert released a statement saying he understood the concerns raised by his constituents. He even went further, bringing up the unclassified map in the Power Point, saying he was "rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority, 'cling to their guns and religion,' and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution."

The ordeal even found its way inside the 2016 presidential race after Texas Sen. Ted Cruz told Bloomberg News he also understood the "reason for concern," and that his office had reached out to the Pentagon to "inquire about this exercise."

Is Texas in danger of military occupation?

With regards to the map, The Washington Post points out that it's not the first time a U.S. military exercise has labeled a U.S. region "hostile." A naval exercise called "Bold Alligator" centered around preventing insurgent groups from launching attacks out of Georgia and part of Florida.

Several Texas politicians on both the left and right have lashed out against what they are labeling as the legitimization of a conspiracy theory, including Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, who according to The New York Times said fellow members of Congress were "appalled" that Abbott asked a state body to supervise a military exercise.

Texas Republican and House Armed Services Committee Chairman Rep. Mack Thornberry told the Dallas Morning News that the idea of the American military acting as President Obama's "private army" was "just silly."

The chatter also spurred a segment on The Daily Show last week, where Jon Stewart dismissed those spreading the theories as "Lone Star lunatics."

Defense Secretary Ash Carter acknowledged the controversy on Thursday, and when asked whether the U.S. military was planning to take over Texas, he smiled, saying "No."


there are tweets and pics of the canaries posting them mixed in with this.. you know the drill.. go to the link   :o
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: petrus4 on May 11, 2015, 09:01:16 PM
Quote from: space otter on May 11, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
you know I do believe we..all of us.. need to be forever vigilant..however what some go to great lengths to hype in their sharing makes me think they should be writing science fiction for a living..
and I want to ask.. WHAT ? ? Do you REALLY think that is even possible ?

Some people just enjoy doom porn, otter.  I don't hold it against them any more.

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/337/9/2/apocalypse_by_push_pulse-d5my8ln.jpg)

"So why do it?"

"Well, because he thought it was good sport.  Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money.  They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with.  Some men, just want to watch the world burn."


I love explosions, personally.  Lots of bright colours.  Relax and enjoy the show. :D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: space otter on May 11, 2015, 10:04:37 PM

Some people just enjoy doom porn, otter.  I don't hold it against them any more.

pets r us
I truly  relish the differences between us all..makes life so interesting to discuss opposing thoughts and such
but I find it hard to fathom that this stuff is believed ...after the first blush of investigation that is..

I refrain from calling anyone stupid for their thoughts or beliefs and I am not doing that here
but I  find it sooooooooo  difficult to understand
how belief of this doom porn persists after a good look behind the original skepticism/ scare / ?

it's kinda like finding a quarter  on the couch and thinking the tooth fairy couldn't find your pillow ;)










I love explosions, personally.  Lots of bright colours.  Relax and enjoy the show.

I guess explosions are watchable in an enjoyable manner if you've never been in one

for me age has brought the porch view of the dark sky with all the stars as more enjoyable than fireworks
so when I am looking again into the harsh headlights of what I would term someone else's personal delusion
I will refrain from engaging and just go have a beer on the porch and smile at the sky traffic.






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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 11, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
 I'd like to state that I've been perplexed for quite sometime at FourWinds propensity for information collection pertaining to Conspiracies. Specifically the ability to collect then organize vast droves of information that support the overal unique conspiracy. 
     The thread he started about underwriting and real estate in Georgia shows me he/she is extremely intelligent and astute.
     I'd like to know the intent of all the time he/she spends dissemination these narratives, which further a perspective of conspiracy, but do little to provide the reader with the information necessary for comprehensive understanding.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 11, 2015, 10:18:56 PM
This is an interview from cspans BookTv with Daniel Pipes, author of: "Conspiracy
How the Paranoid Style Flourishes and Where It Comes From"
http://www.c-span.org/video/?97109-1/book-discussion-conspiracy
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: petrus4 on May 11, 2015, 11:59:29 PM
Quote from: Glaucon on May 11, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
     I'd like to know the intent of all the time he/she spends dissemination these narratives, which further a perspective of conspiracy, but do little to provide the reader with the information necessary for comprehensive understanding.

Based on some of his comments in the past, I'm fairly sure that Thor sincerely believes that he's helping people.  That is a positive and worthwhile intention, so I don't necessarily want to dissuade him from it.  Granted, the degree to which said doom porn blankets the "Recent Posts" list, can sometimes make what I consider more relevant topics harder to find, but fortunately the site also offers other tools for allowing me to find recent threads.

I suspect that the near-constant deluge of apocalyptic fearmongering has also repelled other people from visiting here as often; I can remember Pimander complaining about it on at least one occasion, and I consider that regrettable, because I enjoyed conversing with him.

Still, at this point I'm largely capable of ignoring it, myself.  I've become a lot more vigilant about what I'm willing to expose myself to, recently, as my reading about the Mandela Effect has convinced me that the ability to go to different timelines via the Law of Correspondence is genuinely real.  I therefore no longer wish to expose myself to news about the proverbial sky raining fire, because I now know that if I invest emotional energy in such topics, then that is what I will experience.

It's possible that Thor hasn't figured that out yet.  I didn't truly get it myself for a very long time, so I'm not going to hold it against him.  Or, for all I know, he could genuinely enjoy catastrophe.  I remember seeing that Tom Cruise's remake of War of the Worlds was on here last night, and I've noticed more recently that FoxTel's programming has become a near-constant stream of war, disasters, alien invasions, and the general glorification of militaristic fascism.  I've realised that some people truly want perpetual disasters and war, because they seem to assume that life would be utterly empty and devoid of purpose without it.

I am not one of those people, myself; but for those who are, that's completely fine.  It's just not my own preference.  Where I am living now is very peaceful, and that is what I want. 

The relevant universal law can at times work in very strange ways; Bashar has specifically said that one person could watch a literal meteor shower slamming into buildings and go berserk with terror, while another person sitting next to them could interpret the event entirely differently.  They may simply view it as a beautiful display of pyrotechnics, for example.  Once you stop viewing death as being such a huge issue, you no longer feel morally required to remain in a state of perpetual fear and misery for anyone else's sake, either.

I had a weird experience in town along those lines the other night before phoning my mother, as well.  The row of payphones was in front of a barbed wire fence with a locked gate, behind which some tall grass was growing.  I thought the grass was beautiful; but then I had the odd thought that maybe the gate wasn't there in order to keep people on my side of it out of the property, but that it was actually there to keep the grass and other plants out of where I was, because the person who had built the gate was terrified of Nature trespassing in the town. 

I knew that wasn't really the case of course, because Nimbin has so much beautiful vegetation; but it made me realise just how many, radically different perspectives can be obtained from looking at a single scene, and also, how much perception really does define reality.

(http://www.grand-illusions.com/images/articles/opticalillusions/woman/mainimage.gif)

Is the glass half full, or half empty; or is it possible that a place exists somewhere, where if we took the glass away entirely, the water would remain there, suspended in space by itself?  I think the answer matters.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 12, 2015, 12:10:12 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2015, 11:06:23 PM
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Besides the fact that I couldn't find that text in the book (https://ia601204.us.archive.org/29/items/TheImpactOfScienceOnSociety-B.Russell/TheImpactOfScienceOnSociety-B.Russell.pdf) from where it supposedly came (as usually happens with quotes spread on the Internet), I think the best way of making people "docile, apathetic, unconcerned and groggy" is TV. :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 12, 2015, 12:47:19 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on May 11, 2015, 11:59:29 PM
(http://www.grand-illusions.com/images/articles/opticalillusions/woman/mainimage.gif)

Is the glass half full, or half empty; or is it possible that a place exists somewhere, where if we took the glass away entirely, the water would remain there, suspended in space by itself?  I think the answer matters.

The problem with your example is that BOTH are true :D  I can instantly see the young woman and the old lady... same as I can see a crater as a depression or a hill.... Perhaps this is why I can spot anomalies so fast and some people see only blurry rocks.

Is the glass have full or half empty? Again both statement are true  So that is merely a point of view as both answers arrive at the same conclusion, that you have half a glass of water :D

Perhaps people are confused in life because they are to busy trying to focus on one or the other  rather than glide down the middle path and see both sides simultaneously

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QcyW-qTUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QcyW-qTUg

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 12, 2015, 01:08:32 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 11, 2015, 12:06:09 AM
   1.   An affected business is one that:
"...engages in the purchase, sale, trade, barter, recycling or exchange of secondhand goods, wares or merchandise; or any person who keeps any store, shop, room or place where secondhand goods, wares or merchandise of any kind or description, are bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged is defined as a secondhand dealer."
Besides other dubious things in that article, that's an excellent example of selective quoting to make people think what they want them to think. This is what the ordinance says:
Quote

A.    "Pawnbroker" means any person or entity who, within the City, loans money on deposit or pledge of personal property or any valuable thing, or who deals in the purchasing of personal property or valuable things on condition of selling the same back at a stipulated price, whether he or she does the same for him or herself or as an agent of some person or firm or corporation, who by any means, method or device loans money for personal property when the same is deposited for security or is deposited for any other purpose.
B.     "Secondhand dealer" means any person or entity, who, within the City, as a business, engages in the purchase, sale, trade, barter, recycling or exchange of secondhand goods, wares or merchandise; or any person who keeps any store, shop, room or place where secondhand goods, wares or merchandise of any kind or description, are bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged is defined as a secondhand dealer within the meaning of this chapter; provided however, that this chapter shall not apply to bona fide trade or turn-ins of secondhand goods, wares or merchandise or other goods where no cash is transferred or paid by the merchant, or to auction houses or to the transaction of any property that is titled and of record with a State or the Federal government.


Quote
   2.   Information submitted to the database:
"The customer's name and date of birth and documentation..." and also "The current street address, city, state and zip code of the customer's residence."
The only new thing, when compared to the old ordinance, is the date of birth and the documentation.

Quote
Item #1:  This effectively forces compliance on pawnshops, thrift stores, mom and pop secondhand furniture and house ware stores, gun shows, farmers' markets.  The phrase, "bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged" just means transfer in any way.  City ad valorem and taxes increase, but the biggies?
In fact, the old ordinance included junk dealers (that, apparently, now are not affected by this) and it didn't include the "Exceptions and Exclusions" section that states:

Quote
A.    Pawnbrokers and secondhand dealers are excluded from uploading items into the selected database per Section 20-3 if the item meets one or more of the following criteria:
1.     The item purchased by the dealer is under fifty dollars ($50.00) in value except if the items are purchased in a quantity of twenty-five (25) items or more, such as twenty-five (25) or more DVDs, CDs etc.
2.     The seller is a known customer of the dealer and had contracted with the business prior to the property being presented for sale such as estate sale purchase. The exception does not include over-the-counter contracted purchases.
3.     The property was obtained through a bidding process through a reputable, licensed auction house.
4.     The property is brokered with the business.
5.     The acquisition for resale of any goods by a nonprofit corporation or nonprofit association recognized as such by the Internal Revenue Service or by a bona fide fraternal or bona fide religious organization or association.
6.     The acquisition for resale or trade of coins or of monetized bullion, or commercial grade ingots of gold, silver or other precious metals including, but not limited to, gold, silver, platinum, which ingot bears a stamp or other marking indicating or reflecting the government, governmental agency, private corporation, or banking institution issuing or producing the ingot. "Commercial grade ingots" is defined herein as 0.99 fine ingots of gold, silver or platinum, or 0.925 fine sterling silver art bars and medallions, provided that the ingots, art bars and medallions are marked by the refiner or fabricators as to their assay fineness. (Ord. 1751, 2-2-2015)

Quote1) This is the backdoor method to outlaw private sales of firearms, and 2) Maintain an active database accessible to law enforcement with the name, birthdate, and address of someone who purchases a firearm (of course with the firearm information as well).
The old "they want your guns" bogeyman to fool the idiots.  ::)

The old ordinance already stated that pawnshops, junk and secondhand dealers had to give that information (except the date of birth) to the police.

PS: it would help if your posts included an easy way of identifying what is your own text (if any) and what is copied from the original source.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 12, 2015, 04:27:19 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on May 11, 2015, 11:59:29 PM
Based on some of his comments in the past, I'm fairly sure that Thor sincerely believes that he's helping people.  That is a positive and worthwhile intention, so I don't necessarily want to dissuade him from it.  Granted, the degree to which said doom porn blankets the "Recent Posts" list, can sometimes make what I consider more relevant topics harder to find, but fortunately the site also offers other tools for allowing me to find recent threads.

I suspect that the near-constant deluge of apocalyptic fearmongering has also repelled other people from visiting here as often; I can remember Pimander complaining about it on at least one occasion, and I consider that regrettable, because I enjoyed conversing with him.

Still, at this point I'm largely capable of ignoring it, myself.  I've become a lot more vigilant about what I'm willing to expose myself to, recently, as my reading about the Mandela Effect has convinced me that the ability to go to different timelines via the Law of Correspondence is genuinely real.  I therefore no longer wish to expose myself to news about the proverbial sky raining fire, because I now know that if I invest emotional energy in such topics, then that is what I will experience.

It's possible that Thor hasn't figured that out yet.  I didn't truly get it myself for a very long time, so I'm not going to hold it against him.  Or, for all I know, he could genuinely enjoy catastrophe.  I remember seeing that Tom Cruise's remake of War of the Worlds was on here last night, and I've noticed more recently that FoxTel's programming has become a near-constant stream of war, disasters, alien invasions, and the general glorification of militaristic fascism.  I've realised that some people truly want perpetual disasters and war, because they seem to assume that life would be utterly empty and devoid of purpose without it.

I am not one of those people, myself; but for those who are, that's completely fine.  It's just not my own preference.  Where I am living now is very peaceful, and that is what I want. 

The relevant universal law can at times work in very strange ways; Bashar has specifically said that one person could watch a literal meteor shower slamming into buildings and go berserk with terror, while another person sitting next to them could interpret the event entirely differently.  They may simply view it as a beautiful display of pyrotechnics, for example.  Once you stop viewing death as being such a huge issue, you no longer feel morally required to remain in a state of perpetual fear and misery for anyone else's sake, either.

I had a weird experience in town along those lines the other night before phoning my mother, as well.  The row of payphones was in front of a barbed wire fence with a locked gate, behind which some tall grass was growing.  I thought the grass was beautiful; but then I had the odd thought that maybe the gate wasn't there in order to keep people on my side of it out of the property, but that it was actually there to keep the grass and other plants out of where I was, because the person who had built the gate was terrified of Nature trespassing in the town. 

I knew that wasn't really the case of course, because Nimbin has so much beautiful vegetation; but it made me realise just how many, radically different perspectives can be obtained from looking at a single scene, and also, how much perception really does define reality.

(http://www.grand-illusions.com/images/articles/opticalillusions/woman/mainimage.gif)

Is the glass half full, or half empty; or is it possible that a place exists somewhere, where if we took the glass away entirely, the water would remain there, suspended in space by itself?  I think the answer matters.
I was once a consumer and genuine subscriber to "conspiracies". I absolutely believed many.

Daniel Pipes mentions individuals who "play"  and "have fun" with conspiracies (differentiating between one who enjoys dabbling and one who has "fun" perpetually perpetuating this phenomenon isn't clear). So I'm not sure if someone like FourWinds enjoys submersing himself and others in conspiracy's "eroding" nature, or if I should deduce his level of subscription based on his effort put forth disseminating the narrative.

I can understand from the perspectives of both intentions.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 12, 2015, 05:00:15 AM
QuoteI am interested in anything and everything we can find out about this  whether real or BS.

We recognize that higher source that keeps us on the 'doom porn.'

These were the 'doom porn' of their day...   :P

Operation Mongoose/Northwoods
911
Pearl Harbor
Operation Ajax
Gulf of Tonkin
USS Maine
USS Liberty
RMS Lusitania
Sandy Hook

Thank you all for your time and professional psychoanalysis    ???    ;)

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 12, 2015, 05:29:56 AM
Ever since I started dealing with antiques and gold/silver jewelry over 30 years ago  Pawn shops ALWAYS had strict controls on merchandise and had to keep a record and take drivers licenses because pawn shops get a lot of stolen goods traffic

However many pawn shops ignore this and take cash under the table... so it defeats the intent

Jewelers often by old gold  They too had to keep a record.  However about 80% of the entire jewelry trade is a cash only business :P Government knows this and has yet to stop it.

I can always buy loose gems for cash if I need them... no paper trail

Second hand dealers and junk shops were never hassled much.  To many of them and the item value is usually to small to attract crooks

But today you can sell online and the guys like Ebay Etsy and Amazon are not obligated to report your earnings until you reach $20,000  annual with each (Its right in their agreement)

Auction houses  I don't know but the big sale I had went effortlessly thru the system and since it was less than 50,000 annual capital gains... no one cared

So I would assume that this clause covers that exemption

3.     The property was obtained through a bidding process through a reputable, licensed auction house.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 12, 2015, 05:42:05 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 12, 2015, 05:00:15 AM
We recognize that higher source that keeps us on the 'doom porn.'

Definition:

Doom Porn: Wild rantings about everything going to hell in a hand basket and running around like Chicken Little screaming "The Sky is Falling!!!"

Conspiracy Theory: A well researched presentation of an uncovered plot that has a basis in reality and can be documented

Conspiracy Nut: Someone who thinks EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, whether there is reason to believe so or not

Alternative Researcher: One who take time to dig deep into the Conspiracy theory and present the facts to be examined by the people


Which one of those would do the best at informing people?

::)

QuoteThese were the 'doom porn' of their day...   :P

Operation Mongoose/Northwoods
911
Pearl Harbor
Operation Ajax
Gulf of Tonkin
USS Maine
USS Liberty
RMS Lusitania
Sandy Hook

Those were conspiracy theories :P proven to be fact (Jury still out on Sandy Hook :P )

QuoteThank you all for your time and professional psychoanalysis    ???    ;)

Psychoanalysis is still incomplete :P

But we love ya anyway :D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 12, 2015, 06:54:14 AM
I guess I could be an alternative researcher?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: RUSSO on May 12, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: spacemaverick on May 12, 2015, 06:54:14 AM
I guess I could be an alternative researcher?

By definition, I think you are.  :)

Ps. Did you ever hear about the movie Relatos Selvagens(wild tales)?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3011894/

Check the first story about the plane crash(the whole movie is a masterpiece so it will worth your time) . Creepy!  :o
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: micjer on May 12, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
Conspiracy Nut: Someone who thinks EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, whether there is reason to believe so or not

Alternative Researcher: One who take time to dig deep into the Conspiracy theory and present the facts to be examined by the people.


Have to admit I was more of a CN for a while, but now I consider myself an AR.

I like to look at all of the evidence rather than jumping to conclusions.  Thanks to Space Otter in helping me in the right direction.  LOL.

Something sure isn't right in Sandy Hook.  Poor acting for example.

Weird that the Walmarts are closing.  Not convinced why yet.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 12, 2015, 09:13:36 PM
Quote from: RUSSO on May 12, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
By definition, I think you are.  :)

Ps. Did you ever hear about the movie Relatos Selvagens(wild tales)?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3011894/

Check the first story about the plane crash(the whole movie is a masterpiece so it will worth your time) . Creepy!  :o

I will check it out!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 12, 2015, 09:48:08 PM
Well, let's look at this and see the various possibilities.

A.  Internal threat from ISIS...this will give the different services the opportunity to train with one another in areas that seem to be more of a threat to the United States in general.  Our Southern border is wide open thanks to Obama and other liberals and even some conservative politicians.  When in the service in California we would have a whole division on the ground involved in training...just about 23,000 or so troops on the ground but it was not out in the civilian environment.  When I was in Europe (Germany specifically) we would have Reforger which was Europe wide and involved many nations and would be out in the civilian areas most all the time.  So in short Jade Helm could be training for a possible threat from ISIS inside our borders and not martial law training.  But you know that training would still be good for a martial law scenario.

B.  Possible that this is martial law training under the guise of something else (call it what you will) because as a military strategist and/or tactician you do not reveal your intent or tactics.  Sun Tzu in the Art of War spoke of deception as the primary tool of war where you decive the other side (whoever the other side may be) and you may not have to fight at all because you have brought fear to the enemy (whoever the enemy might be).

Interjection here:  There are executive orders that can be enacted during emergencies and even perceived emergencies...each state as well as the US Government have them and they may be enacted when needed.  Having participated in law enforcement functions during the 4 hurricanes in Florida in 2004 and the Florida Wildfires in 1998 (I believe that was the year)....gas from fuel stations was commandeered as well as some food stuffs and water.  FEMA re-imbursed....Same thing during the Florida Wildfires...we had to sign in with FEMA at our command posts here in our county.  Food stuffs...water...gas...various other items came in from different retail sources and sometimes their parking lots were used as staging areas.

I have no idea what's going on with the Wal-Marts but the economy stinks here in certain areas and is booming in others areas of our economy here in our county.  Stores clsoing because they are not making enough so since the bottom line is why corporations exist may be the reason.  The bottom line comes before the people in many cases.  This is all my view anyway.

C.  It does not really hurt anyone if the governors of various states keep their own forces and sources watching the Federal Government...vigilance on their part is good no matter what their motivation might be...good for us...we should be vigilant for both state and Federal!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Ellirium113 on May 12, 2015, 11:16:24 PM
ISIS could simply hire private mercenary army to do it's bidding in the US and never even be in the country. Are they not for hire in the US? Is there regulations to prevent non government sinister use?  :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 13, 2015, 01:25:50 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on May 12, 2015, 11:16:24 PM
ISIS could simply hire private mercenary army to do it's bidding in the US and never even be in the country. Are they not for hire in the US? Is there regulations to prevent non government sinister use?  :P

They don't even have to hire anyone...they look like they have enough sympathizers in young people and enough converts from the prisons to do their bidding.  Small groups of recruiters and some small groups of leaders is all they need.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 13, 2015, 02:40:09 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2015, 01:15:31 AM
.

"The nature of warfare is always changing and U.S. Army Special Operations Command's mission is to make certain the Army's various Special Operations Forces are trained, equipped and organized to successfully conduct worldwide special operations in support of our nation's interests," Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a command spokesman, said in an e-mail.

"Training exercise Jade Helm is going to assist our Special Operations Soldiers and leadership in refining the skills needed against an ever changing foreign threat."
Bingo.Often times, the simplest explanation is the hardest to discern.

Let me make it clear, however, that it is likely to effect a very small number of citizens. The citizens who are running around like headless chickens blabbering about conspiracies are the ones most likely to "CONSPIRE" to attain some kind of political
Objective.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: petrus4 on May 14, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on May 12, 2015, 11:16:24 PM
ISIS could simply hire private mercenary army to do it's bidding in the US and never even be in the country. Are they not for hire in the US? Is there regulations to prevent non government sinister use?  :P

ISIS are US-intelligence based, as far as I am concerned.  Al-Baghdadi is the current Goldstein/raid boss (http://www.wowwiki.com/Boss).  Apart from anything else, this is the main reason why my eyes glaze over whenever anyone puts the television news on where I'm living.  It's all a complete load of crap designed to keep the public in a permanently apocalyptic emotional state; and I wish I knew why so few people seem to be aware of that.

Try watching the news; any minute of any hour of any day.  The moment I put it on, I start to feel my energy sink like a rock, which is exactly what they want.  It is only about two things; either who has been killed by whom, or Western governments desperately trying to convince everyone that they still matter, and that we should remotely care about them.

They want two things; for you to remain in a permanent condition of near-suicidal depression and mindless terror, and for you to continually bow down and worship both politicians, and the brainwashed canine/human hybrids that compose the police and military.  The rest of you can make your own decisions, but I will do neither.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 16, 2015, 05:36:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihdL452-2w

JADE HELM 15: MEMO TO PATRIOTS: AVOID SHILLS, TROLL & IDIOTS - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihdL452-2w)

Published on May 15, 2015
DISCLAIMER:
Any similarity to known individuals is not a mere coincidence.


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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 16, 2015, 06:46:40 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on May 14, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
ISIS are US-intelligence based, as far as I am concerned.  Al-Baghdadi is the current Goldstein/raid boss (http://www.wowwiki.com/Boss).  Apart from anything else, this is the main reason why my eyes glaze over whenever anyone puts the television news on where I'm living.  It's all a complete load of crap designed to keep the public in a permanently apocalyptic emotional state; and I wish I knew why so few people seem to be aware of that.

Try watching the news; any minute of any hour of any day.  The moment I put it on, I start to feel my energy sink like a rock, which is exactly what they want.  It is only about two things; either who has been killed by whom, or Western governments desperately trying to convince everyone that they still matter, and that we should remotely care about them.

They want two things; for you to remain in a permanent condition of near-suicidal depression and mindless terror, and for you to continually bow down and worship both politicians, and the brainwashed canine/human hybrids that compose the police and military.  The rest of you can make your own decisions, but I will do neither.

That is what terrorism is designed to do...keeps you in a state of hyper-vigilance...gloom and doom...etc...

The only way I conduct my alternative research is I have to intersperse some light entertainment and good stuff people do in this world...otherwise it will drag you down.  Unfortunately when you listen to all this negativity you just say I don't want to hear it anymore...let the powers that be deal with it.  Petrus is right!  In all my research of gloom and doom scenarios I was getting down but alas...I periodically started dipping into what people do good and some entertainment and it helps carry me on.  Human nature is such that if you put garbage in...you will get garbage out.  Balance my dear friends...balance and try to keep out the garbage.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 16, 2015, 10:05:45 PM
Quote from: spacemaverick on May 16, 2015, 06:46:40 PM
That is what terrorism is designed to do...keeps you in a state of hyper-vigilance...gloom and doom...etc...

The only way I conduct my alternative research is I have to intersperse some light entertainment and good stuff people do in this world...otherwise it will drag you down. 

Agreed :P  I find that I see NO Gloom and Doom in my Faerie Land.  Many say it is a mere fantasy but I see no Chemtrails, no FEMA camps, no Storm Troopers in my Realm...

So why is that?  Is it because they are not there? or because I have blinders on?  Well does it matter?  If THEY come I have my swords, my machine guns and my support group, all big guys at ease with swinging a sword :D

In the meantime yesterday I posted a picture of a snow storm with rainbow on Facebook...(and here)  It was a dark sky with the sun hitting the sheets of snow falling. Turned to rain but that gave the rainbow...

Now within two replies on FB those sheets of snow were chemtrail sparys and we were being poisoned LOL 

NO they were snow clouds  See em all the time skiing People need to get out more and see what real weather looks like.

No NOT chemtrail fallout :P SNOW  in MAY in VEGAS   Its 74 F today and blue sky with fluffy white clouds  Farmers Almanac says we will be cool into June WOO HOO

(https://scontent-6.22773.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11011549_468649846644897_6812751816669395447_n.jpg?oh=b91d9131a65717c41b0f9a02ced899cb&oe=55C51CBF)

So yeah I am living in my Fantasy Realm  So what?  No gloom and doom here  Anyone want to join me? I want to rebuild the Guild


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxEbCFUY0zo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxEbCFUY0zo
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 04:46:15 PM
For the umpteenth time, we are in!

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telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 05:47:27 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Jade_Helm_LOGO_500.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaB7vyZbaMk

Occult Meaning of Jade Helm 15 Logo - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaB7vyZbaMk)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tha0cgw5bQc

The war comes home (veteran pulled over by a tank in FL) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tha0cgw5bQc)

Published on Apr 13, 2015
The daring driver Lucas Jewell was pulled over by a tank while cruising the mean streets of Gainesville, Florida. He says he flipped off the tank, but was he getting "road head" as accused?

Watch the video to find out!

Edward Teach Shared on Google+ · 1 month ago (edited)
It's not a tank it's an Lenco BearCat (http://www.lencoarmor.com/law-enforcement/bearcat-variants/g3/), and it has absolutely no business being used on American streets to tyrannize American people.

If you don't follow orders exactly how the bully wants he reserves the right to beat you up, and arrest you for resisting arrest.

Arrested for resisting arrest?

LMAO and people allow that in their society?

It's the same terrorist nonsense like "I saw you swerve", I smell something", "I didn't see you properly signal", blah blah blah its all nonsense to pull people over so they can flaunt their imaginary authority and generate revenue for the state.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2015, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
Watch the video to find out!
I watched enough to see that's not a tank. :)

QuoteIt's not a tank it's an Lenco BearCat (http://www.lencoarmor.com/law-enforcement/bearcat-variants/g3/), and it has absolutely no business being used on American streets to tyrannize American people.
Why, do you think there are better vehicles to tyrannize American people? :)

QuoteIf you don't follow orders exactly how the bully wants he reserves the right to beat you up, and arrest you for resisting arrest.

Arrested for resisting arrest?
Was he arrested? ???
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 08:40:23 PM
And so the cleansing of the internet begins.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/opJH_deleted_Wiki.png)


One might remember that Jade Helm encompasses a "dissident extraction drill" involving members of Special Forces that are practicing, quote, "infiltration techniques", end quote, and also a martial law drill that has the obvious possibility of baiting the various militia groups with a false flag and which would a pretext for martial law.

That would be 'Game On,' as this is something that has been long-prepared for by those very militia groups previously mentioned.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/technologies_designed.png)


If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why do the American militaries special forces and domestic intelligence/security agencies even need to conduct such an exercise, as the United States (people/society/transportation/etc.) is so unique that the only information that could possibly be gained is in how to subjugate/suppress our own citizens?


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/JH_Middle_East_Map.png)


If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

the 1.5 Billion rounds of hollow point ammunition purchased with your tax dollars by DHS, NOAA (46,000 rounds), Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds), etc. - ammunition which is not ever permissible in warfare under the Geneva Conventions, but evidently the bullet of choice for quelling dissenters in Obama's Amerika.

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why, specifically, the Social Security Administration needs hollow point ammo?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/dhs-40-caliber-hollow-point-bullits.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/dave_hodges_ISIS_mexico.png)


If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

One might ask about the 'rumored' ISIS base camp in Mexico a scant 8 miles from El Paso, Texas.


If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Name logical reasons behind a sudden plumbing problem at 5 locations, in different states, at the same time, extending 6 months, when the stores have been build 5-20 years apart, and with zero permits filed.

I would love to hear those reasons.

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/official_proof.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/DHS_pickup_with_gun_mount.png)


If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Is that really a .50 cal mount in the bed of the DHS pickup?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
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Liberty & Equality or Revolution

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 17, 2015, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 04:46:15 PM
For the umpteenth time, we are in!
Facebook says you will be 68 tomorrow  Happy Birthday :P

Got an email from an independent ad agent  That may be fruitful

Need to finish the website and then start a fund raising campaign  Only way to get the guild really running fast is inject funding. 

Ultimately what is needed is a LOCAL team that can meet. A few other groupd have created chapters in other states but they are currently feuding again

LOL Seems Ego Wars are ever present.

Website for Pegasu  still 6 full sections to convert

Land Of legends site is almost repaires  Been working that one from the bottom up so just need to repair pointers

Coming soon

i DO need a local volunnteer that is computer savvy to sit at a desk here in the Manor

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 17, 2015, 11:59:56 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 08:40:23 PM
And so the cleansing of the internet begins.

?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/opJH_deleted_Wiki.png)
That doesn't mean much, just by looking at how the title of the page is written it looks like it didn't follow Wikipedia's rules.

QuoteOne might remember that Jade Helm encompasses a "dissident extraction drill" involving members of Special Forces that are practicing, quote, "infiltration techniques", end quote, and also a martial law drill that has the obvious possibility of baiting the various militia groups with a false flag and which would a pretext for martial law.
I see that the "martial law drill" part doesn't have a "quote", is that an official quote or just something someone decided to add to make the truth harder to find?

Quote
If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why do the American militaries special forces and domestic intelligence/security agencies even need to conduct such an exercise, as the United States (people/society/transportation/etc.) is so unique that the only information that could possibly be gained is in how to subjugate/suppress our own citizens?
I think that question would be asked by a conspiracy nut, not a conspiracy theorist. ;)


QuoteIf One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

the 1.5 Billion rounds of hollow point ammunition purchased with your tax dollars by DHS, NOAA (46,000 rounds), Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds), etc. - ammunition which is not ever permissible in warfare under the Geneva Conventions, but evidently the bullet of choice for quelling dissenters in Obama's Amerika.
Once more, that's a conspiracy nut question, as the "evidently" part shows, seeing that there isn't any sign of those bullets having been used to quell dissenters.

QuoteIf One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why, specifically, the Social Security Administration needs hollow point ammo?
That's a good question, what's the difference between those bullets and the normal bullets?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 18, 2015, 02:38:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tow_3dlNvS8

NEW MADRID FAULT MOVEMENT/CME/CERN - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tow_3dlNvS8)

Published on May 4, 2015
Solar and Quake Links @ http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Phedre on May 18, 2015, 03:01:12 PM


I have been looking  at this for a long time.  Usually but not  always , there is a thread (literally) that can tie things together and make some sense. This is what I've tried to do, as simply as possible.



1. For any senator who wants to study the draft TPP language, it has been made available in the basement of the Capitol, inside a secure, soundproof room. There, lawmakers surrender their cellphones and other mobile devices. Any notes taken inside the room must be left in the room.

Only aides with high-level security clearances can accompany lawmakers. Members of Congress can't ask outside industry experts or lawyers to analyze the language. They can't talk to the public about what they read. And Brown says there's no computer inside the secret room to look something up when there's confusion. You just consult the USTR official.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/14/406675625/a-trade-deal-read-in-secret-by-only-few-or-maybe-none

2. Central Planning Goes Global As UN Unveils Major Sustainable Development Agenda "For The Good Of The Planet.

The UN plans to launch a brand new plan for managing the entire globe at the Sustainable Development Summit that it will be hosting from September 25th to September 27th.  Some of the biggest names on the planet, including Pope Francis, will be speaking at this summit.  This new sustainable agenda focuses on climate change of course, but it also specifically addresses topics such as economics, agriculture, education and gender equality.  For those wishing to expand the scope of "global governance", sustainable development is the perfect umbrella because just about all human activity affects the environment in some way.  The phrase "for the good of the planet" can be used as an excuse to micromanage virtually every aspect of our lives.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-16/central-planning-goes-global-un-unveils-major-sustainable-development-agenda-good-pl


I maintain that the TPP, Sustainable Developement, Agenda 21, NWO, whatever you want to call it, ARE ALL THE SAME THING. All are on "The Plate" NOW.



3. Jade Helm. I do find it most interesting that the UN shindig is going to be held the latter part of Sept. This year, just about the time Jade Helm should be finishing up with it's what ever it is doing?


Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Phedre on May 18, 2015, 03:25:08 PM

You can take what I posted and put it where you all think it fits. Maybe in the "Doom Porn"? :o  The thing is I am not sure it would be all bad?  Change IS coming, but we (me) could go "nuts"  Trying to figure it out. 

I down loaded the "Agenda 21" document  that was submitted by the UN in about 1996-7 I think and have struggled through a lot of it. The UN thing coming this Sept. Is the very same , but, it appears much more refined.

By the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY THOR! :-*

I am very interested in what you all think!  OR  do I need an appointment for a "Jacket Fitting" ?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on May 18, 2015, 06:33:33 PM
QuoteThat's a good question, what's the difference between those bullets and the normal bullets?

Hollow points are designed to penetrate less deeply but expand more greatly for more tissue damage.  They're good for self defense insofar there's less potential for "collateral damage"  ie: the bullet passing through your target and hit someone, something, you wish you hadn't.

The military doesn't use them much because they're frequently trying to shoot through something to get to their target.  Like a vehicle door, walls, sand bags, things hollow points are terrible at.  And buy quirk of dynamics, they're more accurate at short range than non-hallow points.  But there are tradeoffs to each side.

I'm not so much concerned with the Social Security Dept having hollow points, I'm concerned with just wtf is a beurocratic bean counter Dept doing with weapons?  If they need to confront a suspect violent citizen, or even non-citizen, call in the Federal Agents.  That's what they're there for.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 18, 2015, 07:27:55 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/thank_you_very_much_580.jpg)

Greetings Member Phedre:

Thank you for the birthday wishes. 68 years young and still climbing trees.   :P

Think of how much I save on fitness facility memberships (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/pf/0705/gallery.luxury_gyms/5.html)!    ;D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/thorClimbingDollyTree_600.jpg)


Your post is just fine where it is; thank you for your research and sharing.   :)

And you can just ignore the dissemblers (consider their sources    ::)) that attempt to shut down discussion because "it's just an exercise."; because if they're right, we, the people, who dare to question the government/military/authority on any level, may be considered/'proven' to be irrational sheeple that see a conspiracy everywhere - and were wrong this time.

If we are right, they will be somewhere between a rock and a hard place and we will still question why the adamant denial that union busting is perhaps only one aspect of this ever-expanding cornucopia of intriguing rabbit holes and perhaps is deserving of more than a cursory once-over..  :P

(Speaking of Wrabbit, whatever happened to him? He was all over everything (good commenting stuff) and then disappeared (perhaps back to the dark side where he is a mod  :P).

For us personally, there are way too many cooinkydinks for some of this to not be connected in some way at a VERY DEEP level to many of the other weird things previously mentioned.

The TUAW (Tunnels Under A Walmart) carp was the first clue that the game was on . . . get real. . . can we say RED HERRING?

We even offered a Franklin for ONE sighting (photos, if you please) and siting (Google Earth) on Tango in their shill-filled thread (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1063872/pg33#pid19351359) on this 'Walmart' 'situation; no takers as yet.   :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/ats_tfw_TUAW_100_dollars_640.png)

Anyway, we contend that it's always a good idea to be ever-vigilant and stay prepared.

(And be sure to have a closet full of toilet paper...GOLD in 'difficult' times and another way to show your loved ones that you ARE prepared.

Think about it: What is Your Plan B for TP?   :P


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/where_do_you_fit_in_580.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
Peace Love Light
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Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 18, 2015, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 18, 2015, 07:27:55 PM
Thank you for the birthday wishes. 68 years young and still climbing trees.   :P
Happy birthday! :)

Quote(Speaking of Wrabbit, whatever happened to him? He was all over everything (good commenting stuff) and then disappeared (perhaps back to the dark side where he is a mod  :P).
I don't know of any forum where he is a mod.

QuoteFor us personally, there are way too many cooinkydinks for some of this to not be connected in some way at a VERY DEEP level to many of the other weird things previously mentioned.
Some may be coincidences, some may be "tweaked" to look like coincidences.

QuoteAnyway, we contend that it's always a good idea to be ever-vigilant and stay prepared.
Sure it is, I just think that being vigilant is something that should be done with care, as it's relatively easy to become paranoid from too much vigilance.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: RUSSO on May 19, 2015, 03:03:39 AM
Happy birthday thorfourwinds :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 19, 2015, 04:30:48 AM
Greetings esteemed member ArMaP:

Thank you for the birthday wish.

QuoteSome may be coincidences, some may be "tweaked" to look like coincidences.

Please name just one of the some that may be tweaked, if you please.

Are you also contending that Jade Helm is merely 'an exercise' and has absolutely nothing to do with the Walmart store closures which some have emphatically stated that the union busting aspect is the only 'cause' to consider?

And how much is too much vigilance?

And how do you make that judgement call from the comparative safety of another country?

Our V/P meter (Vigilance/Paranoid) appears to be on the fritz due to the incoming solar activity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmKGCUp1zwY).   ;)

Thank you for your time and consideration.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 19, 2015, 06:32:15 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 19, 2015, 04:30:48 AM
Are you also contending that Jade Helm is merely 'an exercise' and has absolutely nothing to do with the Walmart store closures which some have emphatically stated that the union busting aspect is the only 'cause' to consider?

Most likely  yes :P

QuoteAnd how much is too much vigilance?

When you turn into Chicken Little and scream the Sky is Falling  :P


QuoteOur V/P meter (Vigilance/Paranoid) appears to be on the fritz due to the incoming solar activity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmKGCUp1zwY).   ;)

That would explain it  Too much sun :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xfOYks9e-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xfOYks9e-Q
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 19, 2015, 08:06:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBxCY9HfGZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBxCY9HfGZ0

The sky is falling!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 19, 2015, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 19, 2015, 04:30:48 AM
Greetings esteemed member ArMaP:

Thank you for the birthday wish.
You're welcome. :)

QuotePlease name just one of the some that may be tweaked, if you please.
I don't know if they are any, that's why I said "some may", as I see that as possible (as a way for someone to try to steer events/reactions in the direction they want) but I don't really know if it is happening or not.

QuoteAre you also contending that Jade Helm is merely 'an exercise' and has absolutely nothing to do with the Walmart store closures which some have emphatically stated that the union busting aspect is the only 'cause' to consider?
No, but I do need more data that supports that theory, just someone saying it is not enough for me.

QuoteAnd how much is too much vigilance?
That's the most difficult part, each person has to know him/herself to know that.

The problem is that all parts of the human body (as far as I know) get better with practice (I'm sure that's why you can climb trees better than many younger people ;) ), so when we "train" our brain to be vigilant we get in an active "vigilance mode", and we start to see reasons for worrying in most things, in the same way we don't see any problem in any thing if we never worry about any thing.

As with most all things, each one of us has to analyse his/her own reactions and adjust their our behaviour accordingly.

QuoteAnd how do you make that judgement call from the comparative safety of another country?
My opinion is based on my interpretation of human nature, and as humans are the same everywhere I think it applies in any case where humans are involved. It's also biased by what I witnessed of how a totalitarian regime acts to suppress dissent and/or create support among the people.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 20, 2015, 05:41:49 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 18, 2015, 07:27:55 PM

"it's just an exercise."; because if they're right, we, the people, who dare to question the government/military/authority on any level, may be considered/'proven' to be irrational sheeple that see a conspiracy everywhere - and were wrong this time.

I believe this was referring to my response?

I wasn't in anyway trying to "quell" an inquiry into this topic.

You may enjoy a couple hours worth of studying UW (unconventional warfare) and/or hybrid warfare. These are the underlying concepts for this exercise. Codified in doctrine.

" This is another type of war, new in its intensity, ancient in its origin--war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins, war by ambush instead of by combat; by infiltration, instead of aggression, seeking victory by eroding and exhausting the enemy instead of engaging him. It is a form of warfare uniquely adapted to what has been strangely called "wars of liberation," to undermine the efforts of new and poor countries to maintain the freedom that they have finally achieved. It preys on economic unrest and ethnic conflicts. It requires in those situations where we must counter it, and these are the kinds of challenges that will be before us in the next decade if freedom is to be saved, a whole new kind of strategy, a wholly different kind of force, and therefore a new and wholly different kind of military training."-JFK
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 20, 2015, 05:43:54 PM
Happy birthday, Winds!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Glaucon on May 20, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WSHVh-ZtMs
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Pimander on May 20, 2015, 06:02:30 PM
Belated good wishes to you Sir Thor.

I'm afraid I am too busy fighting the good fight here to be of any use to you guys in the States.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 20, 2015, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: Glaucon on May 20, 2015, 05:43:54 PM
Happy birthday, Winds!

Greetings:

Thank you, but 'Mr Winds" is my father, so please call me Thor, as that is obviously me, and I consider you a friend (even though you continue to stall on giving up your 'one source' for challenging us on anything Fukushima).

But, we still love you.   :-*

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: petrus4 on May 21, 2015, 05:29:00 AM
Though I am apparently late in saying it, I hope your birthday was a genuinely enjoyable one, Thor.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sinny on May 21, 2015, 07:27:16 PM
Ditto, happy belated Birthday Thor.
If I was on PC I'd make you an entertaining thread  ;D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on May 21, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
Happy birthday Thor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MgQqT3uHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MgQqT3uHY
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 12:17:06 AM
Quote from: Pimander on May 20, 2015, 06:02:30 PM
Belated good wishes to you Sir Thor.

I'm afraid I am too busy fighting the good fight here to be of any use to you guys in the States.

The New Colonies will survive.

Thank you, kind Sir.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 12:38:21 AM
A "knock and talk..."


Video: FBI Now Going Door-To-Door Interrogating Americans About Jade Helm Military Exercises - Freedom Outpost (http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/video-fbi-now-going-door-to-door-interrogating-americans-about-jade-helm-military-exercises/#rmXOe5cYzdvpoJEc.99)

Are you being watched by the Federal Bureau of Investigation because of your concerns about an overbearing government?

The answer should be obvious given the nature of America's budding surveillance state and a new video shows just how far law enforcement officials are willing to go to protect the Homeland from anyone who engages in the dissemination of ideas that are counter to the official narrative (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/its-just-a-training-exercise-special-ops-shoot-down-jade-helm-conspiracy-theories_04062015).

As you'll see in the footage below, if you show concern or are outspoken about the upcoming Jade Helm 15 military exercises, then you may be getting a personal home visit from the FBI.


FBI: "Basically we're just following up on a phone call... there's a lot of news reporting about Jade Helm (http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/03/jade-helm-15-is-real-heres-the-proof/) and that... and I was just wondering if you have a couple minutes to talk about it... you had called in kind of concerned about it... We follow up with anything like that... we follow all that national stuff."


If you've ever wondered if there is a main core red list (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/main-core-a-list-of-millions-of-americans-that-will-be-subject-to-detention-during-martial-law_06112013) and what it's like to be visited by agents of the Federal government because you support the individual rights outlined by the U.S. Constitution, then watch the videos below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SMZAvtOCRU

JADE HELM - 15 FBI QUESTIONS A FREE MAN part 1/2 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SMZAvtOCRU)

Published on May 15, 2015

FEMA region VII, Bellevue, NE

FBI learns more about Jade Helm and the Constitution then they expected!

James Casale 5 days ago
A little back story.. They caught me on a Friday afternoon which is a day I get home alone for a change, so it is a nap day for me. I had just woke up 10 min before this to my brothers phone call saying he was going to stop by.

I have Crohn's so I was smoking my 'medicine' before my straight-laced brother showed up. He only lives 3 blocks away. So I opened my front door for him. Three minutes before they knocked. I totally thought my brother was knocking and messing with me. When I got to the door I seen their badges.

They said, "Just here as a knock and talk about a concerning phone call." So I used my dog as an excuse to grab my cell phone and pray for wisdom, insight, and courage.

So I can't take the credit for staying calm. I did call my state officials in Nebraska to see if they had gotten anything asking for my state's participation.

Never called the FBI or any Fed's for that matter.


Part 2 http://youtu.be/-owfSkB1940




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-owfSkB1940

FBI Questions a freeman about JADE HELM 15 part 2 of 2 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-owfSkB1940)

Published on May 15, 2015
FEMA region VII Bellevue,NE
FBI learns more about Jade Helm and the Constitution then they expected!

Part 1/2 https://youtu.be/1SMZAvtOCRU

According to the federal agents who visited James Casale in Colorado, they are merely trying to gather more information about this Summer's military operation from citizens who may have come across information not yet available to the FBI.

This reasoning, of course, is ridiculous, as highlighted by Freedom Fighter Reports (https://freedomfighterreports.com/2015/05/20/major-alert-feds-are-now-questioning-individuals-about-how-much-they-know-about-jade-helm-15/):

Since when do the people of America know more about a military drill than the FEDS? Almost never, so why in the world are the FEDS questioning Americans about their knowledge in regards to Jade Helm 15?
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The FEDS are as seen not taking any notes on what the patriot is describing, which means they already know all that is being said and the only reason for their visit is not for the safety of the citizen it is for the profiling of innocent freedom loving Americans.

The FBI agents were cordial and seemingly confused about the Jade Helm 15 operation (http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/04/lt-col-caught-in-lies-about-jade-helm-our-worst-fears-confirmed/).

But make no mistake, they did not visit this American because they needed more information from him so that they could look into the military exercises.

Their prerogative was to profile and garner more intelligence about the 'extremist' views held by the man who answered the door.

They wanted to know what he knew and specifically, who he knew, presumably because they would be paying those folks a visit as well.

The FBI and our nation's entire homeland security apparatus is now implementing Stalin-esque techniques to keep tabs on dissenters.

Incidentally, the Jade Helm 15 operation (http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/newly-released-jade-helm-document-reveals-the-true-intent-of-the-drill/) is designed to train military operatives how to identify and round up dissidents (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/if-martial-law-comes-to-america-dissidents-and-subversives-would-be-rounded-up_04032015) and subversives (and their children (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shocking-jade-helm-training-video-children-used-in-mock-fema-camp-roundups_05192015)), and then ship them off in shackles (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shocking-jade-helm-training-video-children-used-in-mock-fema-camp-roundups_05192015) to government managed detention facilities (http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/03/executive-orders-internment-camps-groundwork-laid-martial-law-event-national-emergency/).

This is America 2015.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 12:45:57 AM
Penguins are great! TY
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 01:18:01 AM
The Waco Massacre: Peaceful bikers rode into a killing field (http://beforeitsnews.com/police-state/2015/05/the-waco-massacre-peaceful-bikers-rode-into-a-killing-field-1466.html)

Monday, May 25, 2015

By Brooks Agnew
I was thinking of riding my Honda Shadow 1100  to Twin Peaks today to have some wings and enjoy the sports on TV on this gorgeous Memorial Day Weekend.  The sun was shining, and the temperature was a perfect 82 degrees.  I rode by the mall, with only moderate traffic and saw a couple of other bikers out doing the same thing I was doing; riding with no particular place to go.

I was riding alone and was not with any other bikers, but we always exchange the extended two-fingered peace sign as we pass one another on the roads winding through the countryside and through the cities of America.

As I made the turn onto the frontage road along the busiest shopping center in town, I noticed two police vehicles in the parking lot.  One was a cruiser with black wheels and the new, aggressive paint scheme.  The other was a black SUV with a light bar on top.

I rolled through the parking lot in a Pavlovian state of mind, thinking about the delicious wings they serve and the beautiful and cheerful servers they have with this biker-friendly franchise.

Then I remembered Waco.  A wave of trepidation swept through me.  I looked around for snipers on the rooftops, and other police vehicles that might be parked nearby at the ready.  I saw two more, parked with their driver side doors facing each other.  Then, I looked over to the mall side of the parking lot, and I noticed an elevated police observation tower than had been raised up with its blacked out windows.

I never actually stopped my bike.  I decided that this looked too dangerous, even though I have a perfectly clean record, including no traffic citations for more than 10 years.  I thought about those 9 bikers, shot in the head and neck with police assault rifles for doing nothing but the same thing I was thinking about doing; having some wings with other bikers who were out enjoying the beautiful weather.

Were there scuffles at biker places where I have stopped for great food before?  Sure.  Nothing ever happened that was serious.  Bikes and beer can sometimes get out of hand, but friends don't let it last long.  They all ride away and let it go like water under the bridge.  After all, there are far too many 4-wheel threats out there for bikers to be fighting amongst themselves very long.

But Waco changed that for every biker in America.  Every Wednesday evening, hundreds of riders come to our local Twin Peaks because they cater to our market.  We are mostly working professionals, lawyers, dentists, engineers and school teachers who like to ride motorcycles as clubs or groups of friends.

But this time, when 170 bikers rode to the Twin Peaks at a major shopping center in Waco, just as they have done twice a month for 18 years, police snipers were already in position.  SWAT members were geared up and ready for a killing. Even a fully equipped MRAP troop carrier was parked in the adjacent parking lot.


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It turns out that the ATF claimed they had an anonymous tip that the dreaded Black Widow biker gang—you remember those scoundrels from the Clint Eastwood movie Every Which Way but Loose—was going to arrive looking for trouble.  It's too bad Clyde wasn't around to throw those guys in the used French fry oil tank.

The ATF was there with their Federal guidance to make sure that justice was swift and absolute.

No shots were fired by anyone inside the restaurant.

No shots were fired by anyone at the police. 


When bikers decided to leave the restaurant and enter the parking lot, the police began shooting full-auto equipped M-16's into the crowd.

Patrons began diving under tables and screaming for their lives.  Little waitresses dropped their trays and ran with terror in their eyes behind the chef's counter.

A twice decorated Viet Nam War veteran was shot in the head and neck, although he was a highly respected pacifist, was unarmed and not involved in any of the scuffle inside the Twin Peaks establishment.  Eight more US citizens were gunned down in cold blood.
 
More than 500 rounds were fired by police, hitting cars, buildings, and injuring other innocent bystanders who happened to look like bikers.

Two shots took seven of the nine people assassinated in the parking lot; one in the neck and one in the head fired by expert police marksmen.

Within an hour, the police press statement belched lies about "criminal biker gangs," dealing drugs and other things that never happened; not once in the 18 years bikers have been meeting peacefully at the Waco Twin Peaks restaurant.

The police spokesman first mentioned hundreds of weapons confiscated, including chains that connected wallets to belt loops.  Then they changed it to dozens.

Then, the facts showed there were fewer than ten, and one was still holstered by a licensed concealed carry American, who had undergone an extensive background check and was found to be spotless.  His bond was placed at an unreasonable $1 million.

Of the 170 bikers arrested for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, less than a third had any criminal record.  Three of them had drafted a new piece of legislation about biker safety, and have since been awarded by the City Counsel for safety awareness.

Of course, they couldn't be there to accept the award, because they were in jail.

To this moment, no waitresses, cooks, or patrons have been interviewed by the press.  Witness intimidation is in full force making sure no one says anything about what really happened.

All surveillance video has been classified and is currently being edited by law enforcement professionals to make sure no officers are charged with murder.  This was clearly a premeditated, Federal  assault designed to kill first, and arrest the survivors.

It has been an infuriating eight days, and nothing has been said by the new Attorney General about unarmed citizens gunned down at a Sunday lunch in broad daylight by more than 18 armed policemen, militarized by a new Federal plan.

14 police officers have been placed on administrative leave, their lives changed forever by following orders to shoot Americans in the head.  They died while screaming and waving their arms at the police to please stop shooting.

There have been no protests and no demonstrations anywhere.  Again, the Federal criminal perpetrators have massacred civilians in Waco, Texas.

Remember the Branch Davidians burned alive on live national television by Federal troops while then attorney general Janet Reno watched the news at home?

America sits idly by and says nothing as our police, sworn to protect and to serve, have been turned into cold-blooded assassins.

Meanwhile, a million bikers went to Washington DC this Memorial weekend to show support for the fallen troops who were sent to God knows where to kill other people in other countries to advance the agendas of God knows who.

I ride my bike today alone.

As my wheels turn, the wind blows the tears from my face as I think about all those dads, sons, mothers and daughters who died on the battlefield trying to free people oppressed by tyrannical governments. I am cold inside.  I think of our own government shooting those free and innocent Americans dead on a Sunday morning in Texas.

The world awaits the volumes of propaganda that will come forth about how bikers are a threat to peace and security.

I write this story from my heart, because silence is consent.

The killing will stop when we have the courage to change what this president has done to our country.

God has blessed America, but I am afraid He is turning is face away from what we have become.

May the sleeping giant awaken before it is too late.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 03:22:45 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on May 21, 2015, 05:29:00 AM
Though I am apparently late in saying it, I hope your birthday was a genuinely enjoyable one, Thor.

TY and keep up the great inputs!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Quayle Alert: Jade Helm Revenge Starts? Bastrop TX Stood Up Against the Jade Helm Excercise & Look What's Happening -Deadly Weather Warfare Right Before our Eyes Against Them (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1424)

Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:21


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As I'm looking through breaking news headlines, and seeing the continuous references to the extreme weather so concentrated over TX, and coupled with the continuous chemtrailing that happens throughout the US, I can't help but think that what is going on right now as part of the Jade Helm "exercise", could not actually be the domestic roll out of weather warfare on an aggressive scale. We know they can control the weather to at least some degree.

We know that the chemtrailing over CA and in the Pacific modifies the jet stream to both keep CA dry and to force that precipitation east towards TX and other southern states. We know that Jade Helm is "pretending" that TX is a hostile enemy that must be engaged. The military is already rolling out across the state as part of this "drill".

Why then, is it not reasonable to assume that as part of this "mock civil war drill" that they would not practice using the tools that they have in their arsenal? They used typhoons against the enemy in the Vietnam War, why would they not use this form of warfare against a domestic enemy as well?

I mean, how perfect is it that the military will be on hand to help "assist" the state with any effects of this "freak weather"?

The citizens would stand down as the military rolls into major cities to assist in "humanitarian efforts" as opposed to protesting martial law drills in their peaceful state.

It's just too coincidental that this Jade Helm thing is going on with TX the stated target, the biker shooting in Waco involved the Banditos gang which a year ago Holder's (criminal) Justice Dept released a report about that gang and stated concern that they have many active and retired military, police and other federal government personnel as members (one of their "red list" targets that now they can portray as criminals), AND on top of all that TX is being completely hammered with extreme weather that seems suspiciously like what one would characterize as weather war.

I'm sorry, but to me this all seems too coincidental and too perfectly timed not to be part of an orchistrated and unified program. This is just conjecture but as we know, the truth is most often stranger than fiction.

Thought maybe I'd share this perspective as something to be considering as the alternative media tries to stay a step ahead of where they want us to be.

May God bless and protect you!

May 26, 2015
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1424
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 27, 2015, 03:31:14 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 01:18:01 AM
The Waco Massacre: Peaceful bikers rode into a killing field (http://beforeitsnews.com/police-state/2015/05/the-waco-massacre-peaceful-bikers-rode-into-a-killing-field-1466.html)

Monday, May 25, 2015

By Brooks Agnew
I was thinking of riding my Honda Shadow 1100  to Twin Peaks today to have some wings and enjoy the sports on TV on this gorgeous Memorial Day Weekend.  The sun was shining, and the temperature was a perfect 82 degrees.  I rode by the mall, with only moderate traffic and saw a couple of other bikers out doing the same thing I was doing; riding with no particular place to go.

That's interesting, he wasn't there (in Waco) but talks as if he witnessed the whole thing.

There's some guy with the same name (I don't know if it's the same guy or not) that has this on Twitter:
QuoteI was thinking of riding my Shadow to Twin Peaks for lunch, but saw cops in the parking lot. I'm going to Buffalo Wild Wings instead.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Those of us who ride don't have to step in bovine excrement to smell BS.    ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chopper_lites.jpg)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on May 27, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 27, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Those of us who ride don't have to step in bovine excrement to smell BS.    ;)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/chopper_lites.jpg)
Maybe you have something up your nose.  :P

PS: I don't understand why you posted the above. ???
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on May 27, 2015, 08:27:38 PM


QuotePS: I don't understand why you posted the above. ???

Elementary :P

"Those of us who ride" = Thor 

Picture of Bike = Thor's bike

Implication: Because Thor is a big bad biker he says it gives him better insight in this case

8)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on May 27, 2015, 08:51:55 PM
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Choppa's for everyone!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 01, 2015, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: zorgon on May 27, 2015, 08:27:38 PM

Elementary :P

"Those of us who ride" = Thor 

Picture of Bike = Thor's bike

Implication: Because Thor is a big bad biker he says it gives him better insight in this case

8)

We never said we were 'big'    ;D

Yup on the insight.

When our friend Goldie was VP of H.A. Los Angeles, he was in our car club.    ;)

Been riding longer than most of yuz been born.    :P

Very nice bike, Mr WarToad.    :)

We must go for a ride sometime - like to Las Vegas.    ;D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 01, 2015, 06:01:27 PM
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Defense Official warns that DoD Directive allowing the use of military force against American citizens is latest step towards martial law – Intellihub (https://www.intellihub.com/defense-official-warns-that-dod-directive-allowing-the-use-of-military-force-against-american-citizens-is-latest-step-towards-martial-law/)

By Alex Thomas
June 1, 2015

(INTELLIHUB) — In a stunning revelation published by a mainstream news outlet, an anonymous Department of Defense official has revealed their belief that a DoD Directive outlining military support to civilian authorities is the latest step towards President Obama eventually using military force against the American people.

The quote from the defense official was published in a now viral report that detailed the 2010 DoD Directive (http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/302518p.pdf) and how it could be used, under authority from the President, to unleash the might of the US military onto the civilian population.

"This appears to be the latest step in the administration's decision to use force within the United States against its citizens," a defense official told the Washington Times.

According to the report, another anonymous US Official also claimed that President Obama considered using the military during the Bundy Ranch standoff but eventually decided against it.

Directive No. 3025.18 – "Defense Support of Civil Authorities"
 
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The directive was signed on December 29, 2010 and includes normal provisions on support for civilian emergency services before revealing that the President has the power to deploy the military on American citizens as he sees fit.

This fact was already known due to numerous executive orders but the directive shows that President Obama himself has signed new orders during his presidency that confirm this power.

A section on using the military during civil disturbances includes:
Federal military commanders are provided EMERGENCY AUTHORITY under this Directive. Federal military forces shall not be used to quell civil disturbances unless specifically authorized by the President in accordance with applicable law (e.g., chapter 15 ofReference (d)) or permitted under emergency authority, as described below (see DoDD 3025.12 (Reference (j)) and DoDD 5525.5 (Reference (c))).

In these circumstances, those Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances because:

(1) Such activities are necessary to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order; or,

(2) When duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions.



Another troubling section of the directive details how the military will go about providing lethal assets to local authorities including arms and drone technology.

The section also openly acknowledges that the military is planning for situations where a confrontation between law enforcement and American citizens is expected.

Except for immediate response and emergency authority as described in paragraphs 4.g. and 4.i. of this section, only the Secretary of Defense may approve requests from civil authorities or qualifying entities for Federal military support for:

(1) Defense assistance in responding to civil disturbances (requires Presidential authorization) in accordance with Reference (j).

(2) Defense response to CBRNE events (see DoDI 2000.18 (Reference (aa))).

(3)Defense assistance to civilian law enforcement organizations, except as authorized in Reference ©.

(4) Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality. This support includes loans of arms; vessels or aircraft; or ammunition. It also includes assistance under section 382 of Reference (d) and section 831 of title 18, U.S.C. (Reference (ab)); all support to counterterrorism operations; and all support to civilian law enforcement authorities in situations where a confrontation between civilian law enforcement and civilian individuals or group is reasonably anticipated.



This directive is literally part of the blueprint for martial law in America yet the mainstream media continues to pretend that fears of martial law are simply the ramblings of crazed conspiracy theorists.

In other words, the corporate media is expecting and hoping that the American people are so blind that they refuse to see reality and instead go along with transparent media lies.
There have been at least 200 mainstream news reports that attacked Alex Jones and the entire alternative media for being worried about Jade Helm 2015, one of the largest realistic military training exercises ever seen on American soil, yet defense officials within the Pentagon are themselves worried about Obama's plan to use military force against citizens.

You can count on the fact that, if one defense official is willing to risk it all and give a quote like the one above, many others within their agency are also worried.

Military drills and movements within the last 2 months

In a major report published late last week, I wrote about the upcoming dirty bomb drill known as "Operation Northern Exposure" and how it was yet another military drill that has either taken place or been announced within the last two months.

The list includes:

   •   On March 13th, Intellihub founder Shepard Ambellas detailed photos and documentation of nearly 40 U.S. Army soldiers, wielding training rifles and dressed in full combat gear, participating in an urban warfare style training drill just outside the Texarkana Regional Airport perimeter.
   
   •   In the middle of April, a report out of Big Springs, Texas revealed that a train full of military equipment and over a dozen helicopters had arrived in the town ahead of Jade Helm 2015.

   •   Photographs taken in Corona, California a few days later added to the Jade Helm speculation after they showed a MRAP full of what looked to be U.S. Marines driving down the 1-15 freeway. "In broad daylight with not a care in the world".
   
   •   On April 24th a shocking report on Intellihub News detailed armed troops seen confronting angry protesters in a "professional news package"of riot control training released by the military.
   
   •   "A massive buildup, a lot of movement and its undeniable at this point," read the headline on April 25th after a convoy was seen in Oroville, California that stretched as far as the eye could see.
   
   •   Moving into May, photographs taken in Indiana showed a massive military convoy heading down the freeway. The photos, taken by a concerned citizen, show the convoy heading west on I-70 for reasons unknown.
   
   •   Two days later, video footage, this time out of Texarkana, Arkansas, highlighted a convoy of Humvees driving down the highway as well as a trainload of military vehicles that was seen shortly after.
   
   •   In mid May, Intellihub reporter Alex Thomas published a detailed report that confirmed that the military was indeed training to take on the American people, this time in the form of domestic house to house raids.
   
   •   The next day a new report, also by Alex Thomas, proved that Marines were actually practicing for the internment of American citizens.
   
   •   On May 18th, a train full of hundreds of military Humvees was spotted, further revealing the increased military buildup across the country leading into Jade Helm 2015. The train was heading towards Cleveland for unknown reasons although a possible connection to planned upcoming protests had been mentioned.
   
   •   This past week a massive military war game simulation called Raider Focus was announced. The war game will include the largest military convoy seen on the roads of Colorado since World War II.

  •   On may 23th, Intellihub News reported on pictures sent to ANP that show a 1/4 mile long military train convoy near the Colorado Wyoming border.

   •   Finally, a report published this week detailed a stunning propaganda move by the military involving a New Jersey school and the worship of the military on the streets of America. "As parents, teachers, and students looked on with joy, Marines from the Special-Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force landed helicopters on the baseball diamond of a New Jersey school."


Perhaps the most important aspect of this report, besides the fact that we now have confirmation that at least some within the government are against declaring martial law in America, is the fact that this is direct evidence that President Obama himself has thought about and made sure he has the power to use the military against the public at large.

Instead of assuming he had the power under past executive orders and laws, President Obama's Department of Defense put it in writing during the height of the Tea Party insurgence.

At this point is it up to the American people to continue to counter the propaganda being pushed by the mainstream media and the military PR machine by educating friends and family about the very real and documented dangers of martial law being declared in America.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 03, 2015, 04:55:08 AM
Las Vegas is next!

Jade Helm 15 comes to Zorgon.

Seems like this should be pretty easy to check out.   :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTNXgfYa8s4

Jade Helm Update: Dealership now Military Lot - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTNXgfYa8s4)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 03, 2015, 07:54:55 AM
http://www.iso-group.com/Public/Search_Results.aspx?ss=6150-01-307-9445

This is a National Stock Number 6150-01-307-9445.....this will tell you what the part is.  When you see RFQ number it is a request for quote number.

The link I put here is the national stock number database.  All you have to do is enter the stock number in the database and it will tell you what the part is.

http://www.iso-group.com/NSNDetail/6150-01-307-9445/6150013079445.aspx

This gives you the description as to what is in one of the boxes (link above)

This could very well be surplus that has been or is demilitarized. (I could be wrong on this count)

You want to know what is there...merely run the stock numbers found on the boxes.  What you call CONEXS are actually shipping containers.  I know this because I work security for a rail yard and see these things all the time.  These containers get mounted on a chassis to be hauled by a big rig to point of shipment which could be a port or railhead.

The guy in the video merely has to insert the stock number into the NSN database search tool to find out exactly whats in the box.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 03, 2015, 08:04:36 AM
Oh P. S. to the above entry...this is ISO Group Database Defense and Aerospace Supply Chain Partner that I obtained theNSN from based right here in my county in Palm Bay, Florida.

From what I see it could be demilitarized surplus.

http://www.iso-group.com/nsn-search/Search-NSN-Parts-Database/


I also noticed a box of parts for M60 machine gun among the boxes and those M-60's have been replaced with a different weapon.

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 05, 2015, 03:34:14 AM
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Greetings Spacemaverick:

QuoteI also noticed a box of parts for M60 machine gun among the boxes and those M-60's have been replaced with a different weapon.

Yup. The venerable M60 was replaced by the M240.


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The original M60 machine gun.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/m240-mag58.jpg)

M240/MAG58 Magnum Machine Gun


Wonder what happened to all them uber-heavy 'Highland Pig Spatts' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X517Utblb00)?   :P

And why would there be 'extra parts' for supposedly 'antiquated' and 'replaced' M60's in Las Vegas? (No, Zorgon doesn't have one in his arsenal, errr, collection.)

And at the old Dodgeland dealership on SkyPoint and Rose, of all places...how about a recon, Zorgon?



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Regarding the above pictures screencapped from the video; since Nevada is involved in Jade Helm 15, it should be no surprise to stage materiel and equipment at closed facilities that have huge parking lots and security fence (perhaps) already installed.

They're still waiting for the tow truck for this one.
   :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/34383-tanks-oops-004.jpg)


Now then, regarding those crates.


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The video shows quite a few crates of these:

8340-01-540-9960
CAGE 73005  PN. 2480570
1 EA RDS 150 TAN
C/C
WT 550 LBS  CU FT 70

JOHNSON OUTDOORS GEAR INC
625 COXKI, IX ROAD
BINGHAMPTON, NY 13903



Ducts Unlimited - Ducting for Military HVAC and ECU Systems - Army Technology (http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/hvac/ducts-unlimited/)

New York Metro-based Ducts Unlimited is the design-engineering and sub-contract-manufacturer of flexible, non-metallic ducts to militaries and their defense contractors worldwide. We produce ducts measuring 2 to 48in (50 to 1,200mm) in lengths up to 50ft (15M).

MILITARY SPECIFICATION DUCT MATERIALS
Ducts Unlimited's manufacturing center houses a broad variety of performance-coated fabrics for military ducting: neoprene, PVC, polypropylene, silicone, and thermoplastic rubber, all dedicated to delivering portable air handling products for use in every operational environment for any mission. All processes within the center conform to the quality requirements of ISO 9001:2000.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Desert_Tan_ducts.jpg)

Desert Tan supply and return ducts.


BATTLEFIELD COUNTERMEASURES DUCTING
Ducts Unlimited is the only military-specific HVAC and ECU system duct supplier that has designed and manufactured countermeasures ducting.

This includes:
   •   Chemical and biological barrier (CB) ducting that provides no less than eight hours blockage before breakthrough to hydrocyancic acid (AC), cyanogen chloride (CK), Sarin (GB), mustard gas (HD), thickened soman (tGD), VX nerve gas, acetone, actonitrile, anhydrousammonia (G), 1, 3-Butadiene (G), carbon disulfide, chlorine, dichloromethane, diethylamine, dimethyl, formamide, ethyl acetate, ethylene oxide (G), hexane, hydrogen chloride, methanol, methyl chloride, nitrobenzene, sodium hydroxide, sulfuric acid, tetrachloroethylene, tetrahydrofuran, toluene, carbonyl chloride (CG), dimethyl sulfate and hydrogen cyanide (HCN)

   •   Electromagnetic interference (EMI) ducting that provides no less than 75db of shielding effectiveness in the 100MHz-1GHz range, with 65db shielding past that to 12GHz

   •   Infrared reflective (IR) ducting that provides no less than 42% reflectance in the 620-860nm range (383 Green) and 72% reflectance in the 600-900nm range (686A Tan)


MILITARY SPECIFICATION DUCT COLORS
Ducts Unlimited works with ALL the color charts from ALL the world's militaries. Whatever your requirement: DLA (Defense Logistic Agency), FS595 (Federal Standard 595, Rev. B) or RAL (German Institute for Quality Assurance and Certification), we can supply ducts in those exact colors.

MILITARY SPECIFICATION HVAC AND ECU SYSTEM DUCTS
Although outlet ports for HVAC and ECU systems are largely standardized within any one army, their specifications can vary from country to country, and sometimes even among services within a country. Ducts Unlimited supplies to a variety of fighting forces worldwide, so it is important that our range of ducts be as versatile as possible. With access to virtually all HVAC and ECU systems specifications, and with their country-to-country interconnect standards to tents or trailers available, Ducts Unlimited can always "cuff" ducts to the requirements of the appliance they will be attached to. From a simple belt and buckle to a more elaborate stainless steel twist-and-lock, a secure fit is assured every time. We also provide insulation where specified, in polyester fabrics or foams up to 1in thick.

A SPECIALIST IN MILITARY APPLICATION DUCTS
As the premier ducting sub-contract manufacturer to primary defense contractors, Ducts Unlimited strictly adheres to all U.S. military specifications, including over 20 that are duct-related, notably SAE-AS38386 (aerospace), SAE-AS7365 (ground heaters) and MIL-H-18158E (shipboard ventilation). Today, Ducts Unlimited has over 150,000 linear feet of ducting in service worldwide. Their applications include: command posts, hospitals, decontamination facilities, communications centers and tactical shelters, in theatres all over the world.


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Question:

Why is this technology being shipped in 'Johnson Outdoors Gear' crates?

We can well understand the tent angle, but them be not tents.   :P

These are the tents sold by Johnson:



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Eureka Military Tents (http://www.eurekamilitarytents.com)

Johnson Outdoors Gear, Inc - Tactical Tents and Shelters for Military Use

Eureka! has worked closely with military installations around the world for the best-in-class tent and shelter systems. There are more than 50,000 Eureka! GP tents fielded around the globe and there have been zero returns or defects.


Wonder what's in the other crates?


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6150-01-307-9445
PN: 13229E6352
PDISE M60 A/P
1 EA
WT  308 CU   23.33
L         48 W       35 H     24
CONTRACT: W15P7T-08-D-A007
S/N 02230



OOPS!

About Fidelity Technologies Corporation | Fidelity Technologies Corporation (http://www.fidelitytech.com/about-us/)

Fidelity Technologies Corporation, headquartered in Reading, PA, was founded in 1987 as a contract manufacturer specializing in circuit card assemblies and cable harnesses for the U.S. Department of Defense. In the early 1990's, Fidelity revolutionized its business by developing and adding core competencies that would pave the way for future growth.

By the mid 1990's, Fidelity had broadened its reach into Simulation and Training; providing design, development, fabrication and on-site contractor operation and maintenance of simulator devices.

In the early 2000's, Fidelity expanded its contractor services to include Contractor Instructor Services, a key area of growth today.

Fidelity has grown from a small contract manufacturer to a leading global supplier of Defense and Aerospace products and services to U.S. and international customers.

In response to the ever changing requirements of the customer, Fidelity is constantly expanding its expertise and capabilities to provide innovative solutions that directly address the needs of the warfighter.


File:Flickr - Official U.S. Navy Imagery - A Simulator instructor teaches. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flickr_-_Official_U.S._Navy_Imagery_-_A_Simulator_instructor_teaches._%281%29.jpg)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Military_and_Aerpspace_PDISE.png)


We still wonder what's in that box.


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Click here for the PDISE brochure (http://www.fidelitytech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/PDISE.pdf)


What's this?


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Duck-Sorb product brochure (http://www.salighthouse.org/products/duck-sorbproductbrochure2008.pdf)


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Wth great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 05, 2015, 06:47:04 PM
BUMP for Spacemaverick to see.   :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on June 05, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/34383-tanks-oops-004.jpg)

Someone soiled their skivvies when that happened. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Dyna on June 05, 2015, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: WarToad on June 05, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
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Someone soiled their skivvies when that happened. Sheesh.

SO they do need more training  ;D ;D

Another possible way to look at Jade Helm.

The USA has never had to fight a war on our own territory, how do you fight among the civilians.

In the past we were pretty secure, now our borders are pouring and with electronic threat and foreign owned ports, how hard would an attack be.

Sex slaves seem to be smuggled easy enough in and out. How hard would it be to construct weapons and bring people? What if there is reason to believe there are thousands of enemies waiting right here in the Us for an action. So what if something needs to be done either for a pending threat or to prepare the military to fight among the population?

In this case what would the Walmarts function as? Holding for enemy or the intervening public who cannot be informed so would read it all as an action against them? Or something else?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 06, 2015, 12:05:23 AM
Got it Thor...thanks...wish I had more time to dig some more.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 06, 2015, 01:55:33 AM
This just in from a truck driving family member.  He has noticed a very large uptick in military equipment in the Southwest.  He ran into a contingent of NG at a truck stop in Nebraska.  He doesn't know military equipment type but knew I was watching what was transpiring.  For obvious reasons I will not reveal the truck line.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 08, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/jade-helm.jpg)

"The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come.
When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin.
When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come.
Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved."

Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6VafODtdY

BREAKING: Pre JADE HELM explosions rock small town - citizens furious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6VafODtdY)

Published on Jun 3, 2015
FLINT | Reports are coming in from our viewers. The quiet town of Flint Michigan was rocked by explosions early this afternoon as military exercises, ahead of Jade Helm 15, disrupted the peace.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbkePjyyZ8o

JADE HELM 15 Has Already Begun - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbkePjyyZ8o)

Published on Jun 5, 2015
On Tuesday the residents of Flint, Michigan were rattled by explosions that resulted from a secretive Jade Helm 15 urban Army Exercise. When the local representative was asked why the locals weren't warned in advance his response was as typical as it is ominous.

The Michigan Air National Guard published a warning just hours before they began night flying helicopter drills from the Selfridge Air National Guard Base (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfridge_Air_National_Guard_Base) into the surrounding area of Mount Clemens Michigan.??Jade Helm 15 appears to be underway. According to U.S. Army Special Operations Command urban drills conducted by all 4 branches of the military are to begin in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, Mi­ssissippi, Florida, and Louisiana from July 15 through September 15, 2015.

The State of Colorado and two Texas counties requested to be dropped off of the list of potential mock war zones. Clearly the Flint Michigan June 2, 2015 exercises are way ahead of schedule. And no warning was given???Jade Helm stands for "Joint Assistant for Deployment and Execution" "Homeland Eradication of Local Militants". This can only mean the returning veterans at the top of the department of homeland security's domestic terrorist list.



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/March_to_Martial_Law_MEME.jpg) (http://sitsshow.blogspot.com)



Back in 2009, the FBI launched Operation Vigilant Eagle (https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/operation_vigilant_eagle_is_this_really_how_we_honor_our_nations_veterans), a nationwide operation that targeted militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups, with their sites set on veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Wall Street Journal reported on the memo trail that led months later to the desk of then DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano's desk. Janet Napolitano warned of a surge of domestic right wing terror groups that would recruit returning veterans into their fold in order to carry out attacks similar to the blatantly staged Oklahoma City Bombing.

The Posse Comitatus Act (http://civilliberty.about.com/od/waronterror/a/posse_act.htm) prohibits the use of federal military personnel to "execute the laws". Regardless, the Feds interpret the language as it may apply to troops used in an advisory, support, disaster response, or other homeland defense role, as opposed to domestic law enforcement.?


The following video is best viewed with headphones... :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kz_HBNezQ

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Colorado Troops Begin Raider Focus Moving Towards Trinidad - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4kz_HBNezQ)




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Art by David Dees.


American Empire Exposed: What We Know Now about Jade Helm 15 and What We're Soon to Know (http://empireexposed.blogspot.com/2015/06/what-we-know-now-about-jade-helm-15-and.html)

1 June 2015

The Army's official press release on March 23, 2015 first announced the Jade Helm 15 military operation to the public led by Army Special Operations Commander Lt. General Charles Cleveland.

But before declaring that Jade Helm would be conducted from July 15 to September 15, 2015 in seven states in the southwestern United States, a key Jade Helms planner met quietly with the City Council of Big Springs, Texas on March 10th to inform the city leaders of the nature of the upcoming military operation.

A number of telling statements made by the operations planner, private civilian contractor and ex-Special Forces NCO Tom Meade were later contradicted on April 27th, 2015. The US government's dog and pony show took place a month and a half later in Bastrop County Texas in efforts to dispel the by then rising tide of public concern over Jade Helm 15.

Special Operations PR spokesperson Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria explicitly reassured Americans that the massive summer military operation is simply a Special Forces tactical exercise involving all four branch of services designed to better prepare US soldiers to fight in future wars in foreign countries on similar terrain as the Southwest.

Throughout this two-hour Q & A citizen grilling that only raised more questions than answers, Lastoria was clearly taking cues and orders from his handler Tom Meade silently sitting nearby with frequent eye contact and silent nods.

It was no accident that the Pentagon calculatingly chose to inform the public a full four months in advance of its intended start date as the largest massive military operation of its kind on domestic soil in US history, making it among other things clearly a PSYOPs operation (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-jade-helm-military-exercise-the-psy-op/5452461) as well.

This is the psychological ploy to learn about and understand the enemy, in this case those Americans who are deemed most apt to overtly resist and oppose the policies of the federal government.

The PSYOPS component to Jade Helm has already learned about the strong backlash of outrage particularly coming from residents of Texas, a state the operation had declared "hostile" (along with Utah and Southern California near the Mexican border).


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By knowing your enemy that includes both strengths and weaknesses, a psychological advantage can be gained and this is where psychological warfare of the PSYOPS begins.

Having the advantage of a four-month advance notice to then sit back and observe the internet community's knee jerk reaction allowed mainstream media to go on the offensive to denigrate (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/) and ridicule those expressing concern by labeling them paranoid conspiracy nuts.

The standard label of conspiracy theorist has proven an effective albeit unjustified ploy to dismiss and smear the reputation and credibility of  members of the truth movement.

Because MSM as the feds' primary propaganda weapon had lost so much credibility of its own with Americans, the Jade Helm PSYOPS was already effectively achieving its desired outcome.

In one broad stroke, JH15 was rapidly exposing the supposed weakness and paranoia of all independent media to accurately cover such a critically important news story.

Thus, the PSOPS objective to implant distrust toward alternative news outlets was at least partially successful in its transparently desperate aim to restore legitimacy to mainstream media.



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However, overlooked is the horrendous track record of lies and deceit by the government and the military giving any self-aware citizen every reason to question what appears to be one more step toward absolute authoritarian control.

Indeed a recent poll found that near half the US population fears that Jade Helm will bring more unwanted federal control over peoples' rights, not to mention a violation of the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act that expressly prohibits the US military from incursion in civil affairs.

By revealing this plan for such a large scale military operation long before it began, the feds wanted to see how Americans would react.

The complete lockdown of Boston after the false flag Marathon bombing was also a federal litmus test designed to assess how America would respond to its first taste of martial law.

It was time to gage the public's response to Jade Helm as a barometer of what opposition the feds might expect to encounter by implementation of this next incremental step closer to complete totalitarian control that martial law would ultimately deliver.

Knowing that upwards of 80% of the US population neither trusts the government nor its six oligarc-owned mainstream media outlets acting as the feds' propaganda machine, for many years Washington has been aggressively preparing an oppressive agenda (http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-the-federal-government-ready-for-war-against-the-american-people/5446852) to deal with the growing civil unrest (as displayed recently in Baltimore and St. Louis) and violent upheaval that it has directly manipulated and intentionally caused by its willfully treasonous actions.

Clearly the government has forsaken, abandoned and betrayed its own people that it's supposed to represent, protect and serve. Instead, by design it has delivered an unsustainably corrupt, broken, collapsing economic system, ever-widening impoverishment and disparity between the rich and poor, the grossest injustice from an equally corrupt and broken judicial system, mounting hostility, aggression and overt murder of increasing number of Americans (especially of color) with total impunity.

And then as if that's not sinister enough, the feds turn around and demonize a growing segment of this population of anyone who may disagree by falsely declaring them homegrown terrorists.

Despite the DHS, the state fusion centers and law enforcement collaborative monitoring and illegal spying, a congressional investigation since 9/11 failed to find a single incidence of an actual domestic terrorist plot uncovered, the traitorous feds have identified war veterans, gun owners, constitutionalists, libertarians, progressive activists, property rights proponents, civil rights activists, Tea Party members, Christians, home schoolers, anti-abortion proponents and right wing paramilitary groups all as potential enemies of the state and domestic terrorists.


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As etched in stone at the Georgia Guidestones, the globalist eugenics plan to reduce the population from 7.2 billion to a half billion along with America's 2050 plan together and Deagel (http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx) representing the military industrial complex's own projected number of Americans falling from 319 million currently to only 65 million by 2025, the federal government apparently plans for massive depopulation by the hard kill fast method of war (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-globalists-new-world-order-soft-and-hard-kill-methods-an-unknown-and-uncertain-future/5451356) along with the plethora of soft kill weapons poisoning us with chemtrails, fluoride, vaccines, Monsanto GMO's, nutrient-dead processed foods, and rising toxic levels of radiation and chemical pollution poisoning our air, earth and water.

And that's not even including other hard kill weapons of weather warfare, EMP technology and its human-induced natural catastrophes like skyrocketing swarms of earthquake and volcanic activity (witness this week's large 7.8 Japan earthquake and Indonesia's Sumatra volcano), and assorted sundry of natural disasters brought on by extreme weather events or Planet X entering our solar system and the cataclysmic havoc it's purported to carry.


2015 already is shaping up to be epic in both so called natural disasters through increased waves and magnitudes of earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions and extreme weather events like hurricanes, tornados, floods, fires, blizzards, and droughts. Under black ops authority, the US military has been involved extensively in geo-engineering, weather modification and climate control, playing an enormous, mostly hidden factor in all of these so called natural disasters. The HAARP technology using high frequency electromagnetic beams and electromagnetic pulse (EMP) technology are simply the latest US military weapons at their diabolical disposal.


Though apocalyptic predictions by doomsdayers have come and gone in recent years like the Y2K and the 2012 Mayan endgame hype, 2015 is already stacked up to be a banner year for doom and gloom, perhaps unparalleled in planetary destruction.


Dear Reader, do you remember this from our friend Bobby Powell in October, 2013?

We were warned.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYqJ64OOMmg

100-Plus UN-Marked MRAPS Deploy To Camp Grayling; FEMA Camps Prepare For Civil Unrest - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYqJ64OOMmg)

by Bobby Powell (http://bobpowell.blogspot.com)

Published on Oct 25, 2013
Using secondary roads and traveling only at night, truckers from more than a dozen four truck convoys have made their way from the West Coast to Camp Grayling in Michigan's Lower Peninsula where they unloaded their cargo: More than 100 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles - MRAPs.

This information was first brought to the attention of The Truth Is Viral by a high-ranking officer in Michigan's Law Enforcement community, so its provenance is impeccable. This officer introduced TTiV Publisher and Editor-in-Chief Bobby Powell to a truck driver, a mutual friend, with direct knowledge of these convoys.

According to the truck driver interviewed in this episode of The Truth Is Viral, the MRAPs delivered to Camp Grayling - long suspected of being a major FEMA camp - were clearly marked with United Nations insignia.??The truck driver says that these MRAPs are parked in a gravel parking lot on the southeast side of Camp Grayling along a secondary road, and not on the base itself.

Should anyone be out with their camera taking pictures or video of the beautiful Fall foliage that Michigan has to offer, and happens to run across these vehicles, please send your pictures and footage to Bobby Powell at the TTiV Facebook page.

These MRAPs are reported to be stored in an area viewable to the public, so nobody needs to go snooping around Camp Grayling.

Please make sure that you do not enter any military or Federal installation without permission, as no pictures or video are worth being incarcerated over.


As usual, he's right.    ;)   Semper Fi, Brother Bobby    8)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

"In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

George Orwell
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 08, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Shemitah_640.png)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ykBIaRkTcs
Illuminati 2015, Shemitah, Power Grid, Jade Helm 15, Cyber 9/11, Economic Collapse, 9/14/2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ykBIaRkTcs)

Published on Apr 2, 2015
2015 is the year of light and according to the HARBINGER, we are close to another Big Event.

Is that event a power grid collapse, resulting in an American Blackout that will have negative effects on Wall Street?

If so, when, 9/14/2015, and how long will the power outage last?

Is Jade Helm 15 preparation for such an event as well as the Gridex exercise back in 2011?

Will we see a cyber bailout?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 10, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZLhI3vOxo

A real radio Ad from the state of Pennsylvania - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZLhI3vOxo)

Uploaded on May 3, 2010
Similar in creepiness to the video Ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aD5VIGBkew

This one, however, they call people who don't pay "criminals".

I'm surprised they don't just say that if you don't pay up, they will
introduce you to a man named "Bubba" who think's you're really pretty.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzxHKkEwm4

Pennsylvania Department of Revenue Says 'Find Us Before We Find You' - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzxHKkEwm4)

Uploaded on May 13, 2010
Pennsylvania Department of Revenue Says 'Find Us Before We Find You'
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on June 10, 2015, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 10, 2015, 09:05:42 PM
A real radio Ad from the state of Pennsylvania - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ZLhI3vOxo)
What's the connection between those May 2010 ads and this thread's topic? ???
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 12, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Greetings:

Now, we begin to tie together Jade Helm 15, incoming asteroids, Ebola, Planet X, Nibiru, Wormwood, martial law, solar flares, EMPs, CMEs and whatever else is about the kitchen (including old radio and TV ads that portray the mindset of the perps in power) to make a hearty duck soup.   :P

Which brings up a couple of interesting questions: Are Bob Fletcher (http://www.bobfletcherinvestigations.com) and Dr. Jim Garrow (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Jim-Garrow/390503827632449) disinformation agents?

From Dr. Garrow:

The Mindless Minute:
The fashion maven and style guru Perez Hilton who declared that the Vanity Fair Cover Photo of ..........Jenner was "breathtaking", is outraged at the "right wing, anti-lesbian, anti-gay, anti-bisexual, anti-transgendered, and homophobic bigot", who dared to challenge his judgement. The "bigot" in question had stated the following - "Breathtaking? As in when you stop breathing while you puke? 65 years old and still playing dress up. Oy vey!". Neither one is backing down from their statements.
- Dr. Jim Garrow -


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/10_things_640.jpg)


Enquiring minds want to know.

Dr. Jim Garrow says the plane was diverted to Diego Garcia, where the Freescale scientists/engineers were taken off along with the cloaking technology.

Bob Fletcher warns us of martial law by mid-2015, mass hysteria caused by incoming planet Nibiru sighted by the sheeple and the missing trillions of dollars that went into preparation for what's coming.

"This is the most important report I've done in 25 years," says Bob Fletcher


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3azy1Qm8W74

Dr Jim Garrow Sheila Zilinsky The Mother of All Conspiracies - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3azy1Qm8W74)

Published on May 19, 2015





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=180RaNNLbYA

Nibiru Planet X - The Best Evidence to DATE 2015 URGENT UPDATE! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=180RaNNLbYA)

Published on May 28, 2015
Science Documentary

Is Planet X, NIBIRU ready to show itself in 2015?

And if so, What will it bring with it? Are NEMESIS (WORMWOOD) and NIBIRU hiding behind the sun?

With so many people wondering about other world affairs and not looking to the sky. Could Planet X already being showing itself?

In this January 2015 interview with Bob Fletcher, he predicted that martial law will be invoked in the US within six months of the worldwide naked eye observations of objects in the Planet X System for the first time.

In possible support of Bob's claim there are disturbing trends being reported by the MSM on the upcoming Jade Helm 15 exercise beginning in July. Are we marching towards Martial Law?

As elite branches of the US military prepare to hold military training in seven southwest states, with some troops operating incognito among civilians, some Americans fear the training is actually preparation for imposing martial law.

The explanations given for the training, however, has not stopped fierce speculation among a number of citizen groups and alternative media sites as to why the entire states of Texas and Utah, as well as a section of southern California, have been declared "hostile," while portions of the military detachment will be operating in the shadows of communities.


About Nibiru:

Planet X Nibiru 2015 - Mysteries of Nibiru - The Planet Goverment Don't Want You To Know - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBBe17KUEg&list=PLbpe4D4cK4eC2YJHfXs--x1P37VPUz-tX&index=1)


The Return of Nibiru 2015 - Planet X Nibiru - 'Two Suns' Presenting the Evidence - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SJq4Yy3j1k&list=PLbpe4D4cK4eBJyeQFYPxbfCUKeQEdZffe)


The Best Nibiru Documentary 2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_MLuymNCIc&list=PLbpe4D4cK4eDhWhXpkt0YUwCDShMLruOV)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 12, 2015, 09:19:44 PM
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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 12, 2015, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 12, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Is Planet X, NIBIRU ready to show itself in 2015?

Planet X, Nibiru and Nemisis are THREE DIFFERENT THINGS :P

The first Planet X was PLUTO  The next Planet X was XENA later renamed to ERIS.  That was the one Ron Harrington was talking about. Planet X is just the name gicven to the next undiscovered planet :P

NEMISIS is a theoretical brown Dwarf Star that MAY be out there beyond the oort cloud but its not coming to visit any time soon :P

NIBIRU was INVENTED by Zecharia Sitchin based on a MISINTERPRETATION of old Sumerian writing. made at a time when Sumerian was not available online. Today ANYONE can read Sumerian and see Nibiru meant crossing point


QuoteAnd if so, What will it bring with it? Are NEMESIS (WORMWOOD) and NIBIRU hiding behind the sun?

No they are not because that would mess up the gravitational fields in the solar system and besides we have spacecraft up there that can see behind the sun :P

QuoteWith so many people wondering about other world affairs and not looking to the sky. Could Planet X already being showing itself?

No Planet X (the next one) is not visible to the naked eye... they are hard to find even by telescopes

QuoteIn this January 2015 interview with Bob Fletcher, he predicted that martial law will be invoked in the US within six months of the worldwide naked eye observations of objects in the Planet X System for the first time.

BULL POOP  By the time it is big enough to see we would already be doomed :P

Marshall Law would be USELESS if Nibiru appeared in the sky LOL We would all be running for cover   to no avail There is no place to hide from a planetary collision (or even close encounter) The plasma bolts would scar the Earth like that Martian canyon


About Nibiru:

Yeah About that...

SINCE it was invented by Sitchin, promoted by Sitchin and NO ONE ever HEARD of it befor Sitchin... would it not be wise to LISTEN to Sitchin and see what he ACTUALLY said?

"Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this  close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons, Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit"

Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, pages 315 - 317


2900 AD  not 2012  not 2015

In Sitchin's own words... that is 892 years away...


So believe what you want to believe  :P  but at least get the FACTS right before preaching a fantasy :P


Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 12, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
(http://ppesydney.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Two-Worlds.jpg)

Here ya go  Observations of Nibiru  All over the net  so I guess it must be here already  Odd that it disappears all the time though

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/9/14403886_d72b9e2860_z.jpg)

I mean there are hundreds of pictures so it MUST be true

(http://www.wantchinatimes.com/newsphoto/2011-03-06/450/twosuns-133551_copy1.jpg)

(http://icons.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/s/sunnyana/195.jpg)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 12, 2015, 09:36:12 PM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vYd-30DAhxs/hqdefault.jpg)

(http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/TwoSuns.jpg)

I guess this explains global warming :P

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NKGt35tFlXw/Ui6MQHAFPzI/AAAAAAAACU0/v6whi9vawkA/s1600/Two-Suns.jpeg)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on June 13, 2015, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 12, 2015, 09:12:05 PM
Greetings:

Now, we begin to tie together Jade Helm 15, incoming asteroids, Ebola, Planet X, Nibiru, Wormwood, martial law, solar flares, EMPs, CMEs and whatever else is about the kitchen (including old radio and TV ads that portray the mindset of the perps in power) to make a hearty duck soup.   :P
Does that mean that you're intention is to confuse people by adding everything up?

Or are you also creating a distraction from the real important things?  :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 13, 2015, 02:07:18 AM
Please explain what are "real important things", if you please.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 13, 2015, 02:57:15 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 13, 2015, 02:07:18 AM
Please explain what are "real important things", if you please.

Maybe THIS?  :P

BREAKING: Texans On HIGH ALERT As Nation Of Islam & New Black Panthers Arrive To Start RIOTS...

(http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ablackpanther.jpg)

These idiots are in McKinney, Texas to start up 'protests' over the ruckus at a pool party where blacks crashed the party and ruined it by turning it into a drug and alcohol fest as well as getting out of control with the neighbors.

Look, anyone that thinks those kids were behaving themselves in a respectful manner needs their heads examined. Witnesses have said the blacks were extremely aggressive.


http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2015/06/09/breaking-texans-on-high-alert-as-nation-of-islam-new-black-panthers-arrive-to-start-riots/

Good Thing Jade Helm is in the state :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 13, 2015, 03:00:29 AM
The Pool Party referred to is this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6tTfoifB7Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6tTfoifB7Q
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 13, 2015, 03:02:09 AM
Problem is the WHOLE Story is that this gal ADVERTISED the even to sell tickets  It wasn't just an innocent pool party

The Full Story of The McKinney Texas, Pool Mob – Inside The "Craig Ranch" Subdivision...

The Origin – The woman who organized the event in McKinney, Texas is named Tatiana Rhodes (or Tatyana Rhodes). She is approximately 19-years-old; however, she retains a fake id and has began scrubbing most of her social media accounts, so her exact age is undetermined. Update: confirmed profile DOB 04/02/1995, so Tatiana Rhodes is 20.

Tatiana had been promoting a party via twitter under the hashtag name "Dime Piece Cookout" for approximately a month.  She planned the event at a sub-division called "Craig Ranch" in McKinney Texas.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/08/the-full-story-of-the-mckinney-texas-pool-mob-inside-the-craig-ranch-subdivision/

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 13, 2015, 03:03:30 AM
So more and more stories shares tell only PART of the story 

But no one cares about TRUTH  just share it and condem it and put blame somewher, never mind the if the FACTS get in the way
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 13, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 13, 2015, 03:03:30 AM
So more and more stories shares tell only PART of the story 

But no one cares about TRUTH  just share it and condem it and put blame somewher, never mind the if the FACTS get in the way

This just in Zorgon:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/13/dallas-police-shooting/

(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/dallasinternal5515.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

DEVELOPING –  Multiple gunmen armed with automatic weapons fired on police officers outside Dallas Police headquarters early Saturday morning before fleeing in an armored van, leading police on a chase that ended in an ongoing standoff in a parking lot where a gun battle with officers ensued.

Police also reported finding two explosive devices near police headquarters. The pipe bombs detonated as they were being handled by an Explosive Ordinance Robot. Police said other suspicious packages have been cleared. Nearby residents were evacuated as a precaution.

"Thankful no officers were injured, " Dallas Poliice Maj. Max Geron tweeted shortly before 8:30 a.m. Saturday.

Dallas Police Chief David Brown said the shootout began about 12:30 a.m. local time when the suspects pulled up to the building and began shooting at officers, striking several squad cars. He said officers returned fire at which time the suspects fled the scene in a van that rammed a police cruiser.

More at the link above...

Could incidents like this be the reason for Jade Helm?  This prompted alerts around the country and even in my county here in Florida.  Don't even know if this attack is part of a larger scheme or isolated incident.....the police don't know either.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on June 13, 2015, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 13, 2015, 02:07:18 AM
Please explain what are "real important things", if you please.
I don't know what you consider important or not, for what I know it might be the price of tea in China. :)

PS: funny that was the only thing you had to say about my post. ;)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 13, 2015, 11:38:45 PM
How about this argument?  Jade Helm is exactly what it seems to be.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/wj-exclusive-jade-helm-participant-clears-up-rumors-surrounding-secretive-mission/

As Western Journalism has previously reported, the announcement of a military training exercise planned to take place across several southwestern U.S. states was met with skepticism by some who felt the so-called Jade Helm operation was part of a more sinister plot. Conspiracy theories began to surface suggesting this exercise could usher in a period of martial law across America. Furthermore, a perceived correlation with the abrupt closure of several Walmart stores in the same general region prompted additional speculation. Critics also questioned the military's motivation in distributing training material describing certain areas of the country as "hostile."

It's a Two-Part Mission

One U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary member taking part in the exercise recently addressed each of these theories in an effort to debunk the rumors surrounding Jade Helm.

Dakota Durham spoke to Western Journalism about his role in the operation, explaining he will serve as a patrol specialist. In a two-part mission, he explained his participation is limited to the second phase.

"Part one is a drill to simulate a large-scale war in the Middle East," he said, "especially with Iran. Part two is routine anti-terrorism and counterterrorism drills. I will be involved with part two. I will also be working with some other guys who are involved with both parts, especially the Army National Guard."

Participants are Patriots

Asked if he has heard anyone taking part in the exercise express uncertainty about its true intent, Durham said he has not.

"The majority of us are pretty offended and hurt by how everyone has been treating us," he said. "We've been called invaders, occupiers, Nazis, you name it."

He said most of the participants live in the very areas in which Jade Helm will take place.

"I live in Utah," he said. "We come from these areas; these are our homes, our families, the things we love. All of a sudden the people treat us like enemies who wish to take their rights when that is not true at all."

According to Durham, he and his fellow participants "would die for the Bill of Rights in a heartbeat" and "would never infringe upon those sacred rights."

He described the overall ideology of those taking part in Jade Helm as conservative, which is a primary reason they are eager to take on this mission.

"We do this job because we love you, our homes, and our freedoms," he said. "We would like to be seen as such."

more at the above link........

sometimes things are really what they seem......
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 13, 2015, 11:40:47 PM
Jade Helm's Real Intent

According to Durham, the states – and their respective designation as hostile or friendly – were selected to mirror a specific region of the Middle East.

"Texas became Iran," he said. "Utah became Turkey. New Mexico is Iraq. Nevada is Greece. Arizona is Jordan. California is Israel. Southern California is Palestine."

The end result of this exercise, he said, is to better prepare the military for real-world operations with life-and-death consequences.

"I'm sure it's just a drill to impress the importance of OPSEC, or Operations Security," he said. "We can't have important information falling into the hands of evil men who wish to kill and enslave us."

Durham once again stressed the commitment he shares with other Jade Helm participants to uphold, not destroy, the Constitution. He shared the following message with those who question his motivation.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 03:17:58 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on June 13, 2015, 05:19:14 PM
I don't know what you consider important or not, for what I know it might be the price of tea in China. :)

PS: funny that was the only thing you had to say about my post. ;)

Obvious dissembler technique:

QuoteOr are you also creating a distraction from the real important things?  :P

Again, what important things? YOU BROUGHT IT UP!

Thank you.

Just in case you have not connected the dots as yet, it all is tied together, IMHO.

Feel free to prove us wrong.

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 03:41:08 AM
Greetings:

We have held this story for a bit to see where it's going and to see if there is ANY verification of ANY of the claims being made.

So far, no further verification and no rumors (in the ranks) of anything nefarious scheduled for tomorrow, but what do we know?

How's this for a psyop (http://www.psywarrior.com/psyhist.html)?

According to whistleblower, 'Dale Lewis', Monday, June 15, Jade Helm goes live, and life may change as we know it for a great many people - or not.

Those who have had ears to listen and eyes to see have already made their preparations, whether you believe any of the following, or not, but it came from the 'White Rabbit' (https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Rabbit-Hole/984247378282550) who has a Facebook account, so he must be real.   :P

And it comes from Zorgon's friend, Kerry Cassidy.    :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzq9rlsmlUQ

PROJECT CAMELOT: POSSIBLE EMP IN TEXAS - INTERVIEW WITH DALE LEWIS - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzq9rlsmlUQ)

Published on Jun 12, 2015

Someone found the following post on their page this morning (June 10th) on Facebook.

I have no way of knowing whether there is any truth to it but feel it is best to put it out there.

If you have heard anything about this, let me know: kerry@projectcamelot.tv

This is a short interview with Dale Lewis, the person who made the post.

There is no real way to ascertain if this information is true.

We are releasing it for your consideration.

We are fully aware that this may be a military psyop as part of Jade Helm.

However, if it is true then there is reason to put the warning out there.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFsXL1fe4A

PROJECT CAMELOT: JADE HELM WHISTLEBLOWER - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFsXL1fe4A)

Published on Jun 13, 2015

After publishing the interview with Dale Lewis, I was contacted by Dale who said that his friend who met the soldier who went AWOL was now willing to come forward and share his story.

This is the audio recording with the man who was approached in a convenience store in Texas, by the soldier. This man prefers to keep his name private and is using the moniker "White Rabbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0)".

I urge everyone to listen and carefully consider the possibility that a false flag attack may be about to occur in Texas.

Regardless of what happens we believe that warning people is the best defense against any operation in the works.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Kerry Cassidy
PROJECT CAMELOT
http://projectcamelotportal.com
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 15, 2015, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 03:41:08 AM
And it comes from Zorgon's friend, Kerry Cassidy.    :P
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They came to Vegas once,,, invited me to dinner... before the split up. Henry Deacon was going to be there...

I got a mysterious phone call advising me NOT to go...

I had already experiences feelings that it would be a bad idea. After that phone call I cancelled the meet

They were furious... Say WHAT?   Shortly after that the split happened   

Seems I have 'protectors' out there ;)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 09:58:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL5pKH9Jw28

Facebook Blocks Jade Helm Gun Confiscation Video #JadeHelm15 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL5pKH9Jw28)

Published on Jun 14, 2015
Here's the link to this very important video:
Gun Confiscation Convoy Spotted On Rail Cars - Urgent #JadeHelm15 Update ?
https://youtu.be/UusMk7JNmQs



While we are posting information from military sources, let's see what another of Zorgon's friends has to say, General Albert N. Stubblebine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ6YjbAuhZQ

An Army General Discusses 911, Military Drills On US Soil, And Geoengineering - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ6YjbAuhZQ)

Published on Jun 2, 2015
By Dane Wigington
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 15, 2015, 11:30:26 PM
What does the General have to say specifically about Operation Jade Helm itself?  I am beginning to have some doubts about some information being put out by various entities about some of the things going on about Jade Helm.

As you are aware I have been in the US Army for about 8 years, USAF active Reserve, 20 years law enforcement/correction and now pull armed security for a rail road.  Those so called rail cars enclosed by aluminum with chains in them are not cars to haul prisoners like they say.  They haul brand new vehicles.  Some of those containers hauling arms are mobile arms rooms and be assured they are monitored remotely in a very stealthy way just like any trucks hauling military cargo.  I see and have been involved in the past with moving an entire air defense battalion by rail from point A to point B.  In California at least twice we move and entire division (7th ID) to South California which also involved a huge mass of military equipment from various points in California.

An exercise of that magnitude also test the capability to logistically move entire units to test their ability to become operational in a short period of time...then uproot and move again and do the same thing.  If you fail to plan...you can plan to fail.  Training, training, training.  When I was in Europe we had specific missions (not desert training).  When I was sent to California...the mission changed and I went into desert training because the middle East was even having issues back then.

What they are training for now (again) is a Middle Eastern problem so they can be ready.  Once again the tactics have had to change because the Middle Eastern mission has changed from when I was in the military.  The Southern States have more of the type of topography you might find in the Middle East.

When I was in Germany, we performed our exercises right out in the German public, through and in their towns and in their fields.  Any damage to thier property was investigated and they were compensated for the damage.

Training has to be as exact as you can get it.  I have a family member that is a contractor and has taught Afghan Police properly perform searches in the urban environment all because that is what they have to do to weed out the enemy.  New enemy and new tactics.  You have to adjust your tactics to your situation.  That family member is now doing the same training somewhere else.

Yes we must remain vigilant but some of the things I am hearing about Jade Helm, I have heard before in another time and another place.  Overall training does not change but strategies and tactics adjust to the different missions and situations.  Just my humble opinion based on training, education and experience.

Remain aware and vigilant as I continue to do so....
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on June 15, 2015, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 15, 2015, 03:17:58 AM
Again, what important things? YOU BROUGHT IT UP!
As I said before, I don't know what you consider important, so I don't have any way of knowing what (if any thing) you may want to hide behind that deluge of conspiracy theory topics. As we are talking about (mostly) situations related to the US I don't have any idea (and I'm not that interested) in what people may find important or not either.

QuoteThank you.
You're welcome. :)

QuoteJust in case you have not connected the dots as yet, it all is tied together, IMHO.
I understood that's your opinion, but opinions are just that.

QuoteFeel free to prove us wrong.
If you're wrong time will prove it, I just have to wait. :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 17, 2015, 06:01:21 AM
I may be changing my opinion regarding the information in this thread.  Call it a gut feeling.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 06:22:11 AM
Hundreds of Tanks moving east through texas APC's and Heavy Medical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biqc3UFbshQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biqc3UFbshQ
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on June 17, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: zorgon on June 17, 2015, 06:22:11 AM
Hundreds of Tanks moving east through texas APC's and Heavy Medical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biqc3UFbshQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biqc3UFbshQ
This was uploaded in 2011, did it take them 4 years to get there?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Pimander on June 17, 2015, 11:43:35 AM
FEMA are supposed to plan for an emergency right?  That could include a nationwide panic in the event of a disaster where people start panicking and looting for food.  Surely they have to be in a position to declare martial law or they are not doing their jobs.

I can see that the power could be abused, but surely any power could be?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 21, 2015, 04:50:56 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/im_from_the_gov_here_to_help.png)


Greetings:

From what we have been able to glean from the propaganda (from both sides), this appears to be a 'Command and Control' exercise, encompassing a 'Compliance Test' - wrapped up in a 'Covert Social Network Analysis' - masquerading under the umbrella moniker of Jade Helm 15.

OK, Spacemaverick, we have some additional information that you may want to consider and then provide your unique perspective.

First, a message from a fellow veteran.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwGg8YnU5fg

Operation Jade Helm 15 Veteran Point of View by John S - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwGg8YnU5fg)

Published on May 5, 2015
Texas has the rare distinction among U.S. states of having been, for a decade in the 19th century, its own nation.

That history of independence, that lingering pride of sovereignty, has never really left the state, and every so often it arouses a certain suspicion of outside forces—be it Mexicans, ISIS fighters, or most frequently, the federal government.

So when the U.S. military announced plans to hold an eight-week joint exercise it called Operation Jade Helm 15 in Texas and five other western states this summer, the people of Bastrop County quickly—and with the help of radio host Alex Jones and Infowars.com—saw it for what it really was: a preparation for the military to impose martial law in the Lone Star State.

Those fears grew over the course of a month, fed in part by the Army Special Operations Command's release of a map for the exercise that labeled Texas as "hostile territory."


And this from someone that is hardly considered a 'doom-porner.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWLkg-tB5U

Turning America into a Battlefield: A Blueprint for Locking Down the Nation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWLkg-tB5U)

Published on May 11, 2015
Why is the federal government distributing obscene amounts of military equipment, weapons and ammunition to police departments around the country?

Why is the military using southwestern states as a staging ground for guerilla warfare drills (Jade Helm 15)?

What exactly is the U.S. government preparing for?

Whatever the answer, John W. Whitehead, in this week's vodcast, warns of the pending day when our so-called "government of the people, by the people, for the people" is no longer answerable to "we the people."


One correction:
From my understanding, DHS actually contracted to purchase 1.6 BILLION, not million, hollow point rounds.

That's a THOUSAND TIMES more than what was said.


And then this from Mr Gordon Duff, Veteran's Today:

(Funny in that it sounds like Sarge Rock wrote this instead of Duff.)   :P


Jade Helm: Another Neocon Hoax | Veterans Today (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/18/jade-helm-another-neocon-hoax/)

QuoteBy  Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

18 APRIL 2015
There may well be a National Guard exercise called "Jade Helm."  Thus far, no one has seen anyone, nothing has happened and we can assure you this, nothing will happen.  The whole thing is a hoax, part of the grand "fear porn" game.


Whew! Between Duff and Sarge, we have been assured that this is absolutely nothing to be worried about regarding Jade Helm 15 and those who make preparations are to be considered 'fear porn preppers'.  :P

And be rounded up and FEMA'd as a 'food hoarder' if One has more than 7 days of food.  :P

So be it.

Considering that this is the U.S. Government and the U.S. Army is heavily involved, we can certainly take Sarge's analysis with a grain of salt, as he is obviously compromised and would immediately lose his cushy employment at SPR if he strayed from the 'official' party line.

So, let's go back to the psyops angle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BzaBmMYeM

AARP Subliminal Message And JADE HELM Connection!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BzaBmMYeM)

Published on May 3, 2015
A break down of the jade helm lies and bold AARP PSA subliminals. The sovereign citizen clip is not part of jade helm but it does show a pattern of this type of training.

Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment (http://michellemalkin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf)


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Firewall: What the heck is 'Jade Helm 15?' - Eastern Arizona Courier: Opinion (http://www.eacourier.com/opinion/firewall-what-the-heck-is-jade-helm/article_0d59a5bc-16d0-11e5-b0b9-db2d4f23530d.html)

20 June 2015
QuoteUnlike the plot from the old 1964 cinema thriller "Seven Days In May," in which high-ranking military leaders planned to overthrow the presidency and take over the United States government, current branches of the military will be conducting a massive joint training exercise in several states to, ostensibly, test the readiness of our troops to deal with domestic terrorism in unfamiliar terrain.

Or so we're being told.

Code-named "Jade Helm 15," the combined two-month military operation will be conducted July 15 to Sept. 15 and involve certain regions in seven Western states, including Arizona.

Approximately 1,200 troops will be participating in the operation, embracing units of Army Green Berets, Navy Seals, Air Force Special Operations and regular Army infantry. Apparently, the Marine Corps wasn't invited.

Interestingly, it is thought United Nations assistance in the exercise is also a possibility.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaB7vyZbaMk

Occult Meaning of Jade Helm 15 Logo - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaB7vyZbaMk)

QuoteThe Jade Helm logo, depicting two crossed arrows over a vertical sword, a transparent klomp in the center (a klomp is a Dutch wooden shoe) and inscribed with the slogan "Master the Human Domain," seems odd in a home-front military training exercise intended to familiarize troops with strategies and tactics of non-friendly forces.

Suspiciously missing from the Jade Helm logo is the American flag and bald eagle, typically representative of the U.S. military. This may be the first time American troops have embarked upon an operation wearing a campaign patch emblazoned with the menacing image of a wooden shoe from a foreign country.

[...]
The secrecy of the exercise has provided a seemingly inexhaustible supply of fuel for conspiracy theorists.

Practically every conceivable political intrigue has been attached to the "real intent" of the Jade Helm exercise — from the imposition of mandatory gun confiscation, to rounding up and imprisoning defiant citizens, to dividing the United States into several distinct regions, each governed by an unelected federal bureaucrat, to the eventual implementation of a One World Government, to Obama proclaiming himself king. The list is lengthy and sometimes ludicrous, but not altogether beyond the realm of possibility.

To reassure the folks the current administration in Washington has their backs, on April 29, 2015, White House press secretary Josh Earnest reaffirmed critics of the Jade Helm training operation that "In no way will the constitutional rights or civil liberties of any American citizen be infringed upon while this exercise is being conducted."

Of course, it might be well to keep in mind this declaration is coming from the same White House that promised everyone if they "liked their health-care plan they could keep their health-care plan" and many other equally dubious statements.

As we've all come to realize, when President Obama speaks, oftentimes words lose their meaning.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHGwPHg818

Jade Helm - Incarceration Concentration Camp FEMA - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHGwPHg818)


Published on Apr 23, 2015
The Jade Helm Logo has a hidden message. The mystery of the shoe has been revealed. The secret message means incarceration in a concentration camp for those labeled as enemies of the state.

Just like the prisoners during the holocaust, incarceration and work camps will be in the future of dissidents. Whether or not Jade Helm goes live, the logo reveals the eventual future of America that includes tyranny, Martial Law and Hotel FEMA.

This is a report from Nathan Leal of Watchman's Cry.



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Rail train loaded with tanks and APCs passes through California desert – Intellihub (https://www.intellihub.com/rail-train-loaded-with-tanks-apcs-passes-through-california-desert/)

17 June 2015
YERMO, Calif. (INTELLIHUB) — A military rail train was recently spotted by a reader and captured on camera traveling through the desert loaded with hundreds of armored personnel carriers and tanks.

This information is being posted to document known movements ahead of JADE HELM 15.

In the last three months we have seen an unprecedented increase in the amount of military movements and urban military training throughout the country and this is yet another example.


How about this angle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1TioKPjxE

Breaking News...Jade Helm 15 Pre Positioning Assets For The 2015 Economic Collapse Of America - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI1TioKPjxE)

Published on Apr 18, 2015
Today I give all with eyes to see & ears to hear the proof that Jade Helm 15 is pre positioning military assets to quail mass civil unrest due to the September 2015 organized economic collapse of America...in this video I give you the ways to protect yourself and your family from the dollar crash that is approaching sooner than any of you think.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PljAOedOmZM

EXPOSED! UN Medic Trucks Caught Trying to Hide Logo from Public View - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PljAOedOmZM)

Published on Jun 15, 2015
This footage was taken in Northern Louisiana On June 10th, 2015.

Notice how the UN logos are covered with brown paper, but the front one has peeled off?
I don't like the looks of this.
What other types of vehicles are being positioned and where?
U.S. vehicles don't even get my attention when I see them, but UN?

This is at least the 5th time that i have reported on UN Vehicles being spotted here in the US. It seems obvious that they are trying to hide their presence, But just got busted! Heads Up Yal!?

The Big Question Now Is, WHY ARE THEY HERE?


Excellent point. However, where is the footage of port-side massive parking lots filled with these vehicles 'prior to being shipped overseas'? Surely there are Google Earth pros (a little help here, please) that can provide the incriminating evidence - one way or the other - where these vehicles actually are at this time.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrj56ZOq30

LOOK! DHS, FEMA Mobile Command Centers Parked at Texas FedEx Terminal - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrj56ZOq30)

Published on Jun 16, 2015
These FEMA and DHS RVs were spotted in the southern parking lot of the FedEx Trucking Terminal In Texas, Just South of Georgetown. The last time this many Mobile Command Centers were spotted in one place was right before the big Fertilizer Plant Explosion.

So, this is just a heads up to them being on the move and in the area.
www.undergroundworldnews.com

As a First Responder, we have seen these FEMA Command Centers in use after hurricanes and tornados.

With all the flooding from Tropical Storm Bill, One might expect that Texans will welcome ANY help, including FEMA, National Guard, and OPERATIONS TREE DISASTER RELIEF TEAM...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELw5X9bEUho

Jade Helm Caught Hauling Fleet Of Mobile CIA Command Centers - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELw5X9bEUho)

Published on Jun 17, 2015
The video came in from Colorado, and similar pictures have been sent into the online watchdog group Operation Jade Helm And Beyond
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Operat...
from Texas and other states.

These units are definitely on the move across America.
Jade Helm plus CIA equals immanent internment, at best, for American Citizens!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQX7AOpUcy0

EXPOZ:...JADE HELM 15. A SCARE TACTIC, FOR NOW. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQX7AOpUcy0)

Published on May 3, 2015
Jade Helm 15 went hot in April 2015. Planned by the under powers to get your reaction and as to what you thought.

The Black Op Program by The Feds achieved it's desired response of The American People.

Do Know This: WE, WILL NOT FALL, WE WILL NOT FALL.
THERE ARE TOO MANY CHRISTIANS, WE WILL NOT FALL.
But the very next 24 hours, America, Martial Law.

How close is all this? I cannot date it however, I see America crashing in 2015-2016.
The more we are weakened, the closer The Anti Christ gets.
GOTO: OATHKEEPERS.ORG WATCH THEM, THEY WILL ADVISE. john 3:16

CONCLUSION

If the military wanted to keep Jade Helm secret, it could have been kept secret. The decision to run a "mass drill in several states" was intentionally done and purposefully allowed to "leak." 

The consequences of such a public revelation are much more useful for war gaming and future predictive responses than any imminent threat of martial law....maybe.

Fellow Patriots, remain ever vigilant and question authority.

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 21, 2015, 06:00:06 AM
Whew, Thor...that is a lot of information.  I will have to step back for a few and digest what you just put out there.  All I can do is give an opinion.  That opinion would be based on my experiences as and 8 year Army vet...I was also active USAF Reserve for 3 years and then 20 years in law enforcement field.  Plus research of various items along the lines of this thread back in the late 80's up until now.

I am working full time, so it may very generalized as far as opinions go.  I will give it a try in about 3 days because I am in the middle of a work week.  I believe you are going to find that I do not entirely agree with my fellow veteran totally.

The Veteran Today editor I do not believe I trust his information because he has admitted that 40% of it is not really true.  Let me sit down an actually outline what I am going to say so it doesn't sound like rambling.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 21, 2015, 12:42:35 PM

QuoteBy  Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

18 APRIL 2015
There may well be a National Guard exercise called "Jade Helm."  Thus far, no one has seen anyone, nothing has happened and we can assure you this, nothing will happen.  The whole thing is a hoax, part of the grand "fear porn" game.


Wow  Duff said that? Dang he usually is as bad as Alex Jones :P

Okay nothing to fear then   :D

BTW Resistance is FUTILE  DO comply when someone points a big gun at you

That way you live another day and get to get him back :P

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 21, 2015, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 21, 2015, 12:42:35 PM

Wow  Duff said that? Dang he usually is as bad as Alex Jones :P

Okay nothing to fear then   :D

BTW Resistance is FUTILE  DO comply when someone points a big gun at you

That way you live another day and get to get him back :P

I wish I had saved that little speck of truth from Gordon Duff.  I about fell over when he said that.  It was a small obscure news article and I about fell over.

Resistance is futile you say?  In my little part of the world there are many people that are aware and just silently watch and silently inform others and we remain vigilant.  During my 20 years with law enforcement...people would be surprised how many are really informed.  They work within the system.  The more complex the system...the easier to use it against itself.  Subterfuge or deception...whatever you want to call it.  Sun Tzu is the great teacher about deception.  I like to work smart and not hard.  The more complicated the system the easier to jam up the gear!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 21, 2015, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: spacemaverick on June 21, 2015, 06:34:59 PM
I wish I had saved that little speck of truth from Gordon Duff.  I about fell over when he said that.  It was a small obscure news article and I about fell over.

How is it 'Obscure'?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/18/jade-helm-another-neocon-hoax/

::)

QuoteResistance is futile you say?  In my little part of the world there are many people that are aware and just silently watch and silently inform others and we remain vigilant.  During my 20 years with law enforcement...people would be surprised how many are really informed.  They work within the system.  The more complex the system...the easier to use it against itself.  Subterfuge or deception...whatever you want to call it.  Sun Tzu is the great teacher about deception.  I like to work smart and not hard.  The more complicated the system the easier to jam up the gear!

LOL that was sarcasm :P I am from Nevada,,, the state that has Militia shut down 200 armed BLM hired good without firing a shot

::)

Talk of gun control only made people stock up  just in case It was a real boon for gun sellers Record ever sales  record ever permits issued

Don't wake up that sleeping giant... he gets nasty when disturbed
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on June 21, 2015, 09:59:40 PM
PART 1

Obscure in my mind...too many things on my mind.  Just couldn't remember where I had seen certain things about Mr. Duff.

As a veteran during the Cold War era and Vietnam we performed a lot of field exercises out on the economy (as we called it) amongst the people and in their towns.  Reforger in Europe where many countries got together and it would look like an all out war (and it was for simulation purposes) so we could keep our skills honed.  If you fail to train then failure becomes a high probability and then the mission suffers as well as the security of the country.  I am not scared by Jade Helm but I am vigilant as well as many others.

There are many of us out here that know what's going on but we do not draw attention to ourselves.  We merely go on about our business and we watch.  We find others of like mind and we converse and exchange information and not out in the open.  We are of like mind but do not meet regularly.  Where I worked most of us prior military types are not brainwashed but have been made aware of things transpiring around us.  Working in law enforcement we see even more (get to that later by the way).  The computer systems that are used...people would have no idea what the officer has at his or her hand and the restriction put on those officers on how it is used.  But back on track.....

During the Cold War we train exclusively in wooded and mountain areas because if something was going to happen in Europe, that is where we were going to do battle.  For Vietnam they actually built villages set after the villages in Vietnam itself.  Advisers that returned would pass on to us the different things we would run into using these models.

I don't know the real purpose of Jade Helm and probably no one else will know either.  I look at it this way.  We as citizens who do wonder what is transpiring need to keep our local and state governments accountable by letting them know we are watching (and you don't have to directly do this)...I use social media as a tool (so do the powers that be).  Be ready for any disaster could be natural or war etc....have your own plan or with others of like mind.  Don't broadcast your plans locally.  One of the hardest resistance movements to track is what we called "leaderless resistance" and what do you think ISIS does as well as in thewarsin the jungles of South America and Vietnam...it is hard to root out.

Jade Helm is one of three things or may be all 3:

It is indeed an exercise meant for training regarding the Middle East.  Look at the climates in which they are training.  When I was in the Army during the late 70's our mission was turning toward desert warfare so we trained in South California in the desert and we would take a whole Division into the desert with aircraft, troops, equipment etc....right through all the towns.

This exercise is along our Southern Border right next to Mexico.  Show of force to cartels and others (since one of our border patrol helicopters were shot at and terrorist slipping through the border (which is Obama Jackwagons fault).

Preparations for martial law?  It very well could be or guess what...all three would fit also.

I will address some other issues in Part 2 that have arisen during Jade Helm.  I work railroad security and see things that some people do not understand about transporting of certain materials you have seen on the military trains and why stockpiles of arms are in certain centralized places.

In short...be aware...be vigilant...prepare for anything on the down low (don't broadcast it)...align yourself with people you know of like mind...have a healthy fear of not knowing but don't be frozen in fear...research things yourself and check out the things you are told or are hearing.  My dad had an old saying:  "Believe only half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.  Check it out for yourself"

stay tuned for part 2...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on June 22, 2015, 03:50:29 AM
I too belong to a group...  this group is made up of some really big guys :P They come from the police, the military even the FBI...

We number about 45,000 strong across the USA...  we are not brainwashed :P

We have the old skills to survive in style...  I can imagine when the SHTF these people will step up to the plate to lead the masses

We have equipment to 'rough it' on a moments notice...  and when bullets are in short supply crossbows, bow and arrow and swords will serve  :D

The FBI has us OFFICIAL listed as "The World's largest private army :D

On the outside it may look like we are just a bunch of historical nuts :P

But I personally can set up my own FEMA camp that will support 40 to 60 people

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TRUE STORY (http://thelivingmoon.com/05sounds/Legends01/True_Story.html)

(http://landoflegendslv.com/07foreign/03orgs/01SCA/images/Events/Estrella2002/battle/battle010.jpg)

There used to be a full Barony on the USS Nimitz  Fighte practice on the flight deck in full armor.  Apparently they did not have to salute a passing officer  Seems they were getting people knocked out saluting with metal gaunlets on :P

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Dyna on June 26, 2015, 08:48:48 PM
What if they already knew there was life on Ceres or elsewhere? Would they not have to prepare for the peoples response if they make an announcement or just show us? Hoping for this  ;D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 29, 2015, 03:57:13 AM
Greetings:

If you have even a vague suspicion that Jade Helm 15 is something more that what the government is telling, us, please listen to this.

Sky Net is fully aware and is buried deep in Jade Helm 15.

There is now an AI program - Jade 2 - that may determine your freedom, your personal potential future as a free, living human being in these United States.



Caravan To Midnight - Episode 309 Jade Helm Decoded - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqGEz9IqOrE)

(Her introduction begins at 13:00)

Published on Jun 19, 2015
Episode 309 – Jade Helm 2 Decoded:
Today we welcome a learned network/software engineer's analysis of what's really behind the exercise.?
Air Date – 6-11-15



And a week later on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report.

Explosive findings about the purpose and scope of Jade Helm 15 06/25 by Hagmann and Hagmann Report | News Podcasts (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2015/06/26/explosive-findings-about-the-purpose-and-scope-of-jade-helm-15)

25 June 2015, Thursday

There has been much speculation about the purpose, scope and depth within the alternative media about Jade Helm 15.

At the epicenter of this speculation exists one primary question: What is the real reason behind the Jade Helm 15 exercise?

"D.J.," an investigative researcher and the founder and developer of Level9News.com (currently under construction) will be our very special guest tonight to discuss her startling research findings that connect some very interesting dots pertaining to the computer GeoSpatial Intelligence Network (GeoINT) and "the net" that is about to be dropped upon humanity.

Just coming off of an interview with J.B. Wells of Caravan to Midnight (Episode 309), "D.J." will offer a very informative look into Jade Helm 15 that no other researcher has yet to provide. Having a strong background in system & network engineering, "D.J." will provide a very detailed analysis of the backbone of Jade Helm 15, which is an artificial intelligence (AI) based computer system with astounding, futuristic capabilities.

Is it possible that JADE II is part of a bigger command and control system that goes beyond military applications?

Based on countless hours of recent research and tireless investigation, "D.J." has the answers, or at least many of them, which connect important yet overlooked dots about the ultimate role quantum computing will play in this new "geospatial intelligence network centric" battlefield.

Do not be fooled by others who claim to have done the research and present the findings into this very specific aspect of Jade Helm 15, for it is her exposure that has shaken the intelligence community.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on July 04, 2015, 01:58:41 PM
Maybe this is the real reason behind Jade Helm?  War led by Artificial Intelligence?  Testing.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihzW17mH1y8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihzW17mH1y8
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on July 06, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
Jade Helm vs America - Army Propaganda visits Texas, A Warning to all Free Citizens - Martial Law

I found this particular video interesting and it tends to support the previous video I posted.  See what you think about this.  Dave Acton checking in is the youtuber posting this but he gives some pretty good supporting evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7C6RRPg_9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7C6RRPg_9E

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 07, 2015, 03:12:00 AM
Reaching, really reaching...
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Phedre on July 09, 2015, 04:17:07 PM

Jade Helm 15, heavily scrutinized military exercise, to open without media access


Quote"Jade Helm 15, the controversial Special Operations exercise that spawned a wave of conspiracy theories about a government takeover, will open next week without any media allowed to observe it, a military spokesman said.

Embedded reporters won't be permitted at any point during the exercise, in which military officials say that secretive Special Operations troops will maneuver through private and publicly owned land in several southern states. Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a spokesman for Army Special Operations Command, said his organization is considering allowing a small number of journalists to view selected portions of the exercise later this summer, but nothing is finalized."

Quote: "The Washington Post has several times requested access to observe the exercise, making the case to the military that first-hand media coverage would help explain the mission. Lastoria said it is not possible to allow a journalist to travel with Special Operations forces in the field, citing the isolated nature of the mission and the need to protect the identity of the forces involved."

Entire story here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/07/08/jade-helm-15-heavily-scrutinized-military-exercise-to-open-without-media-access/


Quote:"Lastoria said it is not possible to allow a journalist to travel with Special Operations forces in the field, citing the isolated nature of the mission and the need to protect the identity of the forces involved.

What the heck does that mean?  I just don't know about all this? But none of it gives me the "warm fuzzies"  :(









Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: rdunk on July 09, 2015, 10:02:08 PM
Quote:"Lastoria said it is not possible to allow a journalist to travel with Special Operations forces in the field, citing the isolated nature of the mission and the need to protect the identity of the forces involved.

Well , let us see now, should we wonder what is happening to our country with so much "secret stuff" - for stuff that should not be secret? Like the recent world trade issues that ƒinally got through Congress, after multiple tries that was kept top secret, and now a "military" training exercise inside the United States that supposedly has "forces" involved that we are not supposed to know about??????????????????????????????????????????

WTS! :) - The more we hear about this the more it sounds like iJade-Helm needs to be SHUT DOWN BY STATE GOVERNORS. Just stop it cold!!!


Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on July 09, 2015, 11:01:50 PM
At least Texas is monitoring with it's own state forces.  Even though I have made some comments about it being just an exercise on this thread...(based on my being a vet)  I am becoming me suspicious by the day about the whole thing.  As for the Wal-Marts I was told by some people that Wal-Mart is shift some of it's larger stores into smaller ones in some areas.  We have had a couple of the smaller stores called market places.  I believe that to be an economical thing.  There have been other large moves by the military exercises in past years that have not had the coverage this one has.  I use to work a job that had several reservists that would have to leave for these exercises.  So this is not really a first.  All I can say is VIGILANCE my friends.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 09, 2015, 11:11:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 07, 2015, 03:12:00 AM
Reaching, really reaching...

Greetings Sgt.Rocknroll:

Reaching  about what?

OK, let's hear it from an 'insider' that has inside 'clearance' because of actively working for DoD at this precise time in history...obviously, you have better intel than we lay persons do.

Instead of taking irrelevant pot-shots at this thread, how about an in-depth analysis from an Army-lifer-person point-of-view and share with us your unique insight?

BTW, everyone that is half awake knows that the five closed Walmarts being connected by the tunnels is a red herring.

However, Walmart's unique computerized acquisition system is second to none.

Enquiring minds want to know.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

With great respect,
tfw
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
First of all I do not have a security clearance as I did when I was 'in'. When I was 'in', I had a TOP SECRET/CRYPTO SIOP ESI clearance with a high access as I processed/diseminated/briefed higher ups on world events as reported in message intercepts and reading/processing the National Intelliegence Daily report issued by DIA/WHITE HOUSE. I now work for DOE and the clearance that I have is the usual one 'everybody' gets when they work for DOE. Specifically I work at the HQ in New Orleans for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

Now there should be no confusion of what I 'did' and what I 'do' now.

Instead of asking me 'Hey Rock, what do you mean reaching?'
Once again, and again and again and again Thor, you shoot your mouth off, sarcastically calling me out.

I was specifically commenting on the information being 'shared' by the gentleman in the video. I thought some of his 'assumptions' were of a reaching nature, trying to find nefarious intent behind some of the events surrounding Jade Helm when there probably isn't.

I don't need to go on and on and on and on and on and on about an event, using 'flashing lights', 'gliterring text banners' and the like, filling up necessary space to beat my chest on the 'flavor of the day', to get my point across.

a simple 'reaching' was all that was needed....most people here get my point....

With Great Respect

Rock
PEACE  8)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on July 10, 2015, 03:27:48 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 07, 2015, 03:12:00 AM
Reaching, really reaching...

Think I was reaching too far?  It was just another view...I've been known to be a little far out from time to time.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2015, 03:35:23 AM
Quote from: spacemaverick on July 10, 2015, 03:27:48 AM
Think I was reaching too far?  It was just another view...I've been known to be a little far out from time to time.

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2015, 11:46:16 PM
I was specifically commenting on the information being 'shared' by the gentleman in the video. I thought some of his 'assumptions' were of a reaching nature, trying to find nefarious intent behind some of the events surrounding Jade Helm when there probably isn't.


Seems clear as glass to me :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 10, 2015, 03:39:49 AM
Mixing Walmart corporate readjustment with Jade Helm exercises is about the same as mixing Nibiru with the Mayan Calendar...

I just went outside to check..

Nope  no Nibiru in the sky...  no tanks driving of the street...

So I think I will just enjoy the unusual break in the heat wave (down to 86F and cloudy with q cool breeze :o)


As to Walmart's closing...  Well dang that is really good news :P even if it is a

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on July 10, 2015, 05:12:55 AM
Don't know if there is a reason to panic but just received thoughts from a close friend in DFW area of Texas.  He said his family in West Texas are in a panic with all the military movement going on.  He is going to a family reunion in West Texas next week.  I asked him if he would give me some sort of report what his family thought was going on.  Maybe I can pick up some information (or not).  I have known him and some of his family for quite a few years and they seem like they are not given to panic...but we'll see what's up hopefully.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 11, 2015, 04:23:15 AM
Are they going to secure the Oil Wells first?

::)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: The Seeker on July 11, 2015, 10:19:49 AM
considering the trouble with the drug cartels in that part of the nation secrecy might play a part in actual ops being contemplated... 8)

I'll wager ol' Robopuff is tripping if he is aware  :P

seeker
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 13, 2015, 03:41:59 AM
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"We have been taught lies. Reality is not at all what we perceive it to be.

We cannot survive any longer by hanging onto the falsehoods of the past. Reality must be discerned at all costs if we are to be a part of the future. Truth must prevail in all instances, no matter who it hurts or helps, if we are to continue to live upon this earth.

At this point, what we want may no longer matter.

It is what we must do to ensure our survival that counts. The old way is in the certain process of destruction and a New World Order is beating down the door...

I fear for the little ones, the innocents, who are already paying for our mistakes.



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There exists a great army of occupationally orphaned children. They are attending government-controlled day-care centers. And latch-key kids are running wild in the streets. And the lop-sided, emotionally wounded children of single welfare mothers, born only for the sake of more money on the monthly check.

Open your eyes and look at them, for they are the future. In them I see the sure and certain destruction of this once-proud nation. In their vacant eyes I see the death of Freedom. They carry with them a great emptiness--and someone will surely pay a great price for their suffering.

If we do not act in concert with each other and ensure that the future becomes what we need it to be, then we will surely deserve whatever fate awaits us."
R.I.P. BC (http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/cooper.html)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZHH3frXtEA

Military Train Seen In Texas, Fully Loaded Down, Ahead of Jade Helm 15 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZHH3frXtEA)

Published on Jul 11, 2015
www.undergroundworldnews.com
With the Drudge Report linking to an interesting Houston Chronicle story out Friday called "Texan's Organize 'Operation Counter Jade Helm' To Keep An Eye On The Federal Troops," ANP takes another look at Jade Helm 15 and some new photographs emerging out of Plano, Texas, a suburb of Dallas, which show another military train, completely loaded down, deep in the heart of Texas.

With the Washington Post reporting JH will not be covered live, the Houston Chronicle report that Texans will be covering JH is heartening. The American people really are the 'true media'.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6pekhEz5-w

JADE HELM 15 Red List, Blue List, Yellow List, - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6pekhEz5-w)

thetruthrevealed777
Published on Jun 30, 2015

Red List - These people are the enemies of the NWO. They are the leaders of patriot groups, outspoken ministers, outspoken talk show hosts, community leaders, and even probably NET leaders. These people will be dragged out of their homes at 4:00 am and will be taken to FEMA detention centers and killed. This will take place approximately 2 weeks before martial law is enforced.

Blue List - these are also enemies of the NWO, but are followers of the Red List folks. These people will be rounded up after martial law is in place, and will be taken to the detention centers and 're-educated'. Various mind-control techniques will used on them. Most will not survive this. Mr. Springmeier was not specific on exactly who was on the Blue List, but I would guess that people such as you and I are on that list.

Yellow List - these are citizens who know nothing about the NWO and don't want to know. They are considered to be no threat at all and will be instructed as to how to behave and will most likely do whatever they are told. Unfortunately there are too many of these to be effectively controlled, so many will be killed or starved.

Time to wake up people.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3-Ce7ReNBE

Military Refuse Jade Helm Orders, And Speak Out. July /2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3-Ce7ReNBE)

Published on Jun 28, 2015
PLEASE SHARE, AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW THIS NOW!
BREAKING: Jade Helm-Military "QUIT"
First three Marines to stand in front of the world and "QUIT" because of Jade Helm.
?July 11, 2015
https://youtu.be/Uhh6hKDMClY
https://youtu.be/T3-Ce7ReNBE


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blrIW2k8HrE

The World Beyond Belief 139 Jade Helm and the Tavistock Timeline - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blrIW2k8HrE)

Published on Apr 26, 2015
Jade Helm is of great concern worldwide and especially to Americans. Jade Helm is not an isolated strategy but is part of a grand plan to convert our beautiful planet into a one world nightmare.

According to Dr. John Coleman, this plan is orchestrated by a group called the Committee of 300 (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/committeof300.htm) and a diabolical sub-group known as the Tavistock Institute (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZG0b02zCdg).

These organizations obviously use natural patterns of human tendencies to contribute to our enslavement. This pod cast centers on how Tavistock has timed its interventions to puppet humanity into following into line with the overall plans for the one world government.

We talk about WWII, the Hippie Movement (known as the Aquarian Conspiracy) and now the Jade Helm 15 intervention which were all intended to lay the groundwork for the global police state (or the global satanic nightmare state) that has been in the works for a long time.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml3IM0esWXM

The Tavistock Agenda - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml3IM0esWXM)

Uploaded on Feb 2, 2011
Great description of a little known aspect of the NWO/Illuminati. Thanks so much to Iona Miller for this video!

John Paterson
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I wish my dad was still around today, he met a Peanut Farmer from Georgia, in Claridges London in the 70s who then went on to become President of the United States, James Earl Carter, who was trained at The Tavistock Institue. Dr. Peter Bourne, a Tavistock Institute psychologist, picked Jimmy Carter for President of the U.S. solely because Carter had undergone an intensive brainwashing program administered by Admiral Hyman Rickover at Annapolis, and remember folks, it was Carter who signed into law "The Global 2000 Report" we are witnessing the outcome today as we speak!

Their principal agency, the Institute for Policy Studies, was funded by James Paul Warburg; its co-founder was Marcus Raskin, protege of McGeorge Bundy, (SKULL & BONES) president of the Ford Foundation.

Today the Tavistock Institute operates a $6 Billion a year network of Foundations in the U.S., all of it funded by U.S. taxpayers' money. Ten major institutions are under its direct control, with 400 subsidiaries, and 3000 other study groups and think tanks which originate many types of programs to increase the control of the World Order over the American people.

My dad was also an avid follower of Bill Cooper, and he asked me to bring back a copy of Spycatcher from the USA which was banned in Britain under the orders of Margaret Thatcher, who was inducted into 788-790 FINCHLEY ROAD BOILER ROOM, (that Gordon has exposed), and he's the only member of my Family or relatives who would know exactly what I have been sweating blood to try and explain over the years, THANK GOD for the Internet, MOST of you who are awake know exactly what I'm talking about, and now that David Cameron, Tony Blair, Nick Clegg, Norman Lamont and many others have been exposed by Gordon Bowden it remains to be seen whether the rest of the public will wake-up in time...

I'm mostly a humourous sort of guy, but lately, I've started to get a bad feeling..... Still, we have no choice but to keep marching forward and expose these SCUM BAGS for who they really are. AND don't expect the BBC to inform the world about the forensic evidence handed over on 1st March 2015.

Future generations who still manage to access REAL History may or may not have access to the videos we have made on this subject, however, I HOPE to live long enough to see Cameron and his filthy murdering Paedophile cabal get lynched on the streets of London where I was born. Then I will be dancing in OUR streets along with the rest of you. RIP Dad. I'm doing the best I can,"with a little help from my friends" wink emoticon x SEE VIDEO



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We lived in Laurel Canyon in the early '70s...and could add personal stories and color and fill in a lot of the blanks that DM was not privy to as he was not there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeFGqYHsW8k

Dave Mcgowan - 1960s-70s Laurel Canyon Questions - Tavistock Institute - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeFGqYHsW8k)

Published on May 24, 2014
Celebrity road and the Wonderland path. Who is behind Pop Culture?
Music Stars why and what are they involved with, and for what reason is Laurel Canyon a CIA, Military mind-control psyops center? Is this an outlying diabolical covert Black-ops Institution? The Fabian Society, Tavistock, Esalen Institute, etc. Who are the custodians of all of this?


And now, to tie it all together.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeoh-o3SZO0

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeoh-o3SZO0?%20Geoengineering,%20JADE%20HELM%202015%20&%20Sentient%20Mass%20Extinction%20-%20YouTube%5B/url)

Published on Jun 30, 2015
"The unraveling of the reality we have all known is happening from countless directions and at blinding speed. Earth's life support systems are crumbling, the human assault against the planet has taken an immense toll with climate engineering being at the top of the list. Many are still living in a delusion of denial, their delusions will soon be shattered.

The power structure is moving their still obedient military chess pieces into position to possibly be used against their own citizens. When reality can no longer be hidden from the masses, chaos will unfold. The narrated article, is from a news site that has hundreds of thousands of followers, they have just woken up to the climate engineering nightmare."?Dane Wiggington


Speaking of the mind...

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Dr. Michael Persinger, a well-known neuroscientist, has conducted numerous studies examining the effects of magnetic fields with the same magnitude as the geomagnetic field on brain functions and information transfer. Not only has he shown that applying external fields similar to the Schuman resonances can induce altered states of consciousness, he also has suggested in a detailed theory that the space occupied by the geomagnetic field can store information related to brain activity and that this information can be accessed by all human brains.

Furthermore, Persinger also suggests that the earth's magnetic field can act as a carrier of information between individuals and that information, rather than the intensity of the signal carrying it, is important for interaction with neural networks. The above findings help support part of GCI's hypothesis that the earth's magnetic field is a carrier of biologically relevant information.

HeartMath and GCI further submit that because humans have brain and heart frequencies overlapping the earth's magnetic field resonances, they not only are receivers of biologically relevant information, but they also essentially create a feedback look with the earth's magnetic field and thus feed information into the global field environment.

While it is not difficult to conceive that life forms existing within the earth's magnetic field could be affected by modulations in this field, it is a more far-reaching proposition to suggest that the earth's field connects all living systems and carries and distributes biologically relevant information.

Nevertheless, GCI researchers hypothesize that when large numbers of humans respond to a global event with common emotional feeling, the collective response can affect the information distributed in the earth's field. In cases where the event evokes negative responses, this can be thought of as a planetary stress wave (of information), and in cases where a positive wave is created, it could create a global coherence wave (https://www.heartmath.org/research/global-coherence/).


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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 13, 2015, 04:14:52 AM
Remember that guy leaving Walmart a few years ago?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JB2uaxFHHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JB2uaxFHHM
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 14, 2015, 02:39:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8n4cu-9Zc

Stewart Rhodes calls for emergency summits by state, in preparation for economic collapse - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8n4cu-9Zc)

Published on Jul 5, 2015
AMERICA RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
SUPPORT TEAMS URGED.

Albany, NY.
June 24, 2015
Founder and Director of Oath Keepers Stewart Rhodes urges all Oath Keeper chapters across the country to hold an Emergency Summit by state, in order to prepare for an economic collapse.
'Assume the worst' and formulate support teams.
Food storage the most crucial.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCKX354aXc

Hagmann & Hagmann Report - July 8, 2015 Steve Quayle: Weather Engineering & Weather Wars - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCKX354aXc)

Published on Jul 8, 2015
Hagmann & Hagmann Report - July 8, 2015 Steve Quayle: Weather Engineering & Weather Wars??

We've all seen it. You awaken in the morning and are greeted by beautiful clear, cerulean blue skies. There's not a cloud to be seen in the sky above you. As the day progresses, you notice the crisscross patterns of white "trails" in the sky, hanging, there, forming a barrier between the sun and the ground. Soon, the clear day turns into an overcast mess of less defined, milky, rope-like strokes of... what?

If you like the "average" person, you attribute the soupy mass of atmospheric obscurity to routine aircraft travel combined with normal cloud formation. After all, what else would any sane and rational person think?

Asked differently, what sane and rational person or group would intentionally muddy the sky above us with a toxic mix of chemicals that shortens lifespans, causes deforestation, and modifies weather?

The answer is that no sane and rational person or group would do such a thing – but the maniacal globalist powers are neither sane nor rational.??Despite the damning evidence appearing in the sky directly above us, too few will admit that something is amiss... that we are not being told the truth about what we are seeing being "engineered" in the sky.

Most will write off their observations to the normal "contrails" of commercial aircraft, and others, well, just don't even seem to notice – or care. Still others will mock and ridicule those who question the obvious.

The questions now become these: What is taking place in the sky above us? Is there some type of aerial spraying taking place designed for a purpose that the average person is not being told?

The answers might surprise many, but will definitely upset the way that you look at those clear to muddied skies from this point forward. The ONLY requirement is your intellectual honesty that would allow you to objectively look at the evidence that will be presented tonight.

It appears that the previous information provided by the 'JADE HELM-15 mouthpiece' is at best, erroneous, at worst, deliberate deception on the part of the JADE HELM-15 perpetrators.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XRcoPHMZUI

Breaking Jade Helm 15 Update - Tovo making big changes! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XRcoPHMZUI)

Published on Jul 12, 2015



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Police State FEMA Camp Warning: "Private Prison Space Is Being Created To House Future Political Dissidents" (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/29812_07102015)

The following article was originally published by Dave Hodges at The Common Sense Show.

Privately Owned Prisons Are Being Converted to FEMA Camps
Russians training in incarcerate and process American dissidents? Prison riots that are controlled by "special forces (Jade Helm)"? Prison space being cleared for future political prisoners? And all of these events discussed in this article simply dovetail from the revelation that shopping malls, sports stadiums and some schools are being prepped to double as FEMA camp internment facilities.

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Camp Grayling, a known FEMA camp, is the site of massive training for the Michigan Army Reservists and the Michigan National Guard. They say they are training for GITMO duty.


Sent July 10, 2015
Dear Dave,
I have followed your work for a long time. I know that you have covered that Russian soldiers are in our country and are preparing to be a part of a martial law occupation force in case American soldiers will not carry out their orders.

I have always thought you were one of the best writers in the country and read you everyday although I never bought into the Russian thing until now. I also listen to you and the Hagmanns on the air. I know they feel the same as you about the Russians.

I have a relative who is in the Michigan National Guard. His unit has been training with the Russians. They are practicing rounding up Americans and processing them into custody. He said they separated men and women with some children. But he also said they were separating people by religious beliefs.

My relative believes that they are going to exterminate Christians when the time comes. Why else would they separate Christians from Jews from Muslims and from Catholics, from Mormons from atheists?

My relative is absolutely freaked out. He wants to quit and go into hiding. He told my husband and me that we have no idea how bad things are about to get. I have shown him some of your articles on Jade Helm and Camp Grayling and he was very surprised that you were being allowed to print what you are.

He said that members of his unit said that they think they will be attacked by the Russians when the time comes.  He thinks that he and his unit will be assassinated when it comes time to round up Americans. He said his unit senses that the Russians "hate us" and want nothing to do with us because they know what is coming. He said that we have done training together, but there is no hint of any relationships developing as you would expect.  He said the American soldiers and the Russians do not like each other.  They have nothing to do with each other and only the officers from the 2 armies speak to each other.

The training is about monkey see monkey do. His unit will arrest pretend suspect actors and then process them and interrogate them. The Russians watch and then are asked to do the same in English. He said the Russian's English is as good as any American. This part freaked me out. He said that the Russians frequently train in American Army uniforms.  Everyone thinks that they are going to pretend to be Americans when it is time to start the killing and the rounding up.

My relative also learned through an advisor that was at their camp, that the same thing is going on at Ft. Bliss.

What should we do? We cannot all go into hiding but I am convinced that they are coming for people like us.  My question to you is that if the Russians are already training to arrest us, how far away can the real thing be?

Please do not publish my name, I do not want to have my relative or me to have an accident.




I asked my friend if he knew that American citizens for any reason, or for no reason whatsoever could be detained under the NDAA and sent to a FEMA Camp? He said that the government would never use this law against American citizens. Unfortunately, the evidence suggest otherwise.

At minimum, there is an economic collapse in our near future with the massive debt which is unsustainable. The presence of the NDAA and EO 13603 speaks to the government's plans to deal forcefully with any disturbances.

The preparation by DHS is unmistakable with its acquisition of over two billion rounds of ammunition and 2700 armored personnel carriers. And when we see foreign troops (e.g. the Russians and the Chinese), we should all be gravely concerned. Additionally, FEMA, and DHS, both last and this year have engaged in a seemingly endless set of disaster planning drills which parallels the content of this article.

To the 55% who are clueless, take out an insurance policy and begin to store food, water guns and ammunition. To everyone else, who has at least some idea of what is going on, begin to reach out to your neighbors because you will need the additional safety that numbers can bring.

The evidence trail that shopping malls (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/07/01/how-fast-can-a-strip-mall-be-turned-into-a-fema-camp/), sports stadiums (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/07/07/every-nfl-stadium-is-a-fema-camp-in-hiding/), schools (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/07/05/the-conversion-of-schools-to-fema-camps/) and Walmarts (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/06/02/evidence-suggesting-that-walmarts-are-staging-centers-for-fema-camps/) are going to be converted to FEMA camp detention centers is growing by the day. Now we are seeing clear evidence that private prison space is being created to house future political dissidents.

If you are new to this topic, you may want to click on the above hypertext links so that you can see the progression of the conversion of many of our institutions to FEMA camp detention centers.

The case for Russian forces and their involvement in the FEMA camp internment scenarios is fully out in the open as is the complicity for Jade Helm participation. In the next article in this series, I will expose how this relates to this week's cyber attack on the cell phone providers, the Wall Street Journal, United Airlines, and the New York Stock Exchange.

Keep in mind, that if the food supply is impacted by future cyber attacks, there will be too many mouths to feed.

And what will the resulting martial law look like? A clear picture of this eventuality is beginning to emerge and that will be the topic of the next part in this series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiFJ2b-ZkuI

Zombie Plague Sweeps America: Video Proof! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiFJ2b-ZkuI)

Published on Nov 29, 2013
If Americans behave like this over electronic slave goods, imagine how they will react when the food runs out?

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With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on July 14, 2015, 06:54:55 PM
Minot AFB was out in numbers over the weekend.  Fully mobilized.  Helping the Boy Scouts clean up parks and roadsides.  Damn hippies.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 14, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 14, 2015, 04:46:42 PM
Greetings:

This may be the most important show ever done on Hagmann & Hagmann Report, IMHO, of course.
I doubt it's important enough to be posted twice, on consecutive posts.  ::)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 14, 2015, 11:19:36 PM
Thank you, ArMaP, for pointing that out.

The back room boys scuttled that a cow forthwith.    ;)

BTW, which video did you watch and do you think Dane has the numbers right on the aluminum particulates in the atmosphere that rain down as FALLOUT?

And, do you think that there is any chemtrailling being done over your country of Portugal?

As always, thanking you in advance for your reply.

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With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 14, 2015, 11:50:03 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 14, 2015, 11:19:36 PM
The back room boys scuttled that a cow forthwith.    ;)
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. :(

QuoteBTW, which video did you watch and do you think Dane has the numbers right on the aluminum particulates in the atmosphere that rain down as FALLOUT?
None, for several reasons, the most important being that I don't have enough time to that and it's a subject I don't give any importance, as I think it's mostly a way of keeping people occupied with something that doesn't exist, at least as those talking about it say.

Oh, and I hate videos. ;D

QuoteAnd, do you think that there is any chemtrailling being done over your country of Portugal?
No, at least not as proposed by the people that are always talking about it. For chemtrailling to work on a specific area it should be done in a different area, considering the direction of the winds at all altitudes between the altitude at which the chemtrail is supposedly created and the ground. For example, where I live the winds are mostly from the East during the Summer, but sometimes they change to West winds, while at high altitudes they are almost always from West to East (in all of the northern hemisphere and East to West in the southern hemisphere). We also have (mostly in Winter) North and South winds.

Besides that we have local winds, created mostly (I think I am using too much the word "mostly") by mountains and, where I live, the cliff that goes down to the river and, when the wind comes from the North (against the cliff), creates a kind of "pillow" over Almada with stronger winds that clear the clouds only in this area.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 15, 2015, 12:19:01 AM
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Greetings:

Please consider this:

Perhaps the on-going satellite war between the superpowers was the real cause behind the recent cyber attack on the New York Stock Exchange, even though the NYSE said it was a 'glitch' and - of course - those with an agenda attempted to pin it on Anonymous.

Perhaps the ISIS contingent just south of the US border took down the F-16 through their connections with Hezbollah and Hamas...EMP weapons are mentioned here.


QuoteNow there are some who are falsely or incorrectly stating that the plane was shot down by a hand held stinger missile which was found in the desert near the crash site of Douglas, AZ. This claim is rubbish. The F-16 is armed with counter measures and it is not likely that a hand held missile stinger could have shot that plane down given the evasive maneuvers that could have been employed at 10,000 feet, the reported altitude that the plane was flying at when it began its fall from the sky. .

In actuality, what has happened and what those close to the investigation are saying, have shaken the U.S. military to the core.

This F-16 was not shot down, it was brought down.

My sources have stated that General Lloyd Austin (http://www.centcom.mil/en/about-centcom-en/leadership-en), commander of US Central Command, along with key members of his staff have stated that they are investigating this crash not as an accident and not as a shoot down, but as a take down, a take down by a localized and focused EMP blast aimed at the plane.

The proliferation of EMP weapons has expanded beyond previously unimagined levels. There are how to manuals on how to make your own. However, the type of weaponry designed to take down an F-16 flying at about 10,000 feet would have to be amazingly sophisticated and would likely be guided by portable radar with the assistance of lasers.

Perhaps the next beta test will be on infrastructure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVKOGwqjc0w

The Chinese Cyber-Attack and What Comes Next - Dave Hodges Exclusive - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVKOGwqjc0w)

Published on Jul 8, 2015
EXCLUSIVE: Dave Hodges of The Common Sense Show and James White of The Liberty Brothers Radio Show discuss the recent cyber-attacks and how our very infrastructure is targeted next.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO0UIFknAM

Stewart Rhodes on Jade Helm 15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyO0UIFknAM)

Published on Apr 27, 2015
Stewart, in his current position, has many friends and contacts who are in, and out, of military service. Stewart, as many who have analyzed Jade Helm 15, thinks that the operation will serve multiple goals for the tyrannical government.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYGUfWC84wg

Oathkeepers' Founder: Americans Must Prepare Now To Defend Their Freedom - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYGUfWC84wg)

Published on May 25, 2015
Dave Hodges speaks with Oathkeepers' Founder Stewart Rhodes in an explosive interview on his Common Sense Radio Show where they discuss the possibility of an economic collapse that will set off a major conflict in the U.S. followed by ISIS attacks in this country, race riots and under the cover of this chaos, political dissidents extracted as per the possible intent of the Jade Helm military exercises.

It will be at this point, that the sides will be definitively drawn in such a conflict said Rhodes and that Veterans and Citizens should join together now in preparation to defend themselves and their communities.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 15, 2015, 01:53:36 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 14, 2015, 11:50:03 PM
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. :(

Never mind, as the 'a cow' has been deleted.    ;D

QuoteNone, for several reasons, the most important being that I don't have enough time to that and it's a subject I don't give any importance, as I think it's mostly a way of keeping people occupied with something that doesn't exist,

So, you are saying that geoengineering doesn't exist and is of no importance?

Quote...at least as those talking about it say.

How would you have that opinion is you don't avail yourself of all available information?

And exactly who are 'those talking about it' that you have based your opinion on?

QuoteOh, and I hate videos. ;D

So, where do you get your information to make such opinionated observations?

QuoteNo, at least not as proposed by the people that are always talking about it.

What people? Certainly not people on videos, because you don't watch them.   ;)

QuoteFor chemtrailling to work on a specific area it should be done in a different area, considering the direction of the winds at all altitudes between the altitude at which the chemtrail is supposedly created and the ground. For example, where I live the winds are mostly from the East during the Summer, but sometimes they change to West winds, while at high altitudes they are almost always from West to East (in all of the northern hemisphere and East to West in the southern hemisphere). We also have (mostly in Winter) North and South winds.

That's how it's done.    :)

QuoteBesides that we have local winds, created mostly (I think I am using too much the word "mostly") by mountains and, where I live, the cliff that goes down to the river and, when the wind comes from the North (against the cliff), creates a kind of "pillow" over Almada with stronger winds that clear the clouds only in this area.

Thank you for your opinion. One might suggest you avail yourself of burntheships and Zorgon's magnificent work on geoengineering and chemtrails...right here on TLM.    :)


FYI, regarding Portugal and geoengineering and chemtrails...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PjHWec4eTc

Chemtrails - Portugal - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PjHWec4eTc)

Catarina Rasteiro

Published on Feb 2, 2014
Chemtrails // Rastos Químicos
Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ExposingChemtrailsWorldwide


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Chemtrails Portugal: Geoengineering for dummies. (http://chemtrails-portugal.blogspot.com/2012/03/geoengineering-for-dummies.html)

Ja reparou que o ceu anda menos azul?

Este é um blogue que tem como objectivo dar a conhecer e descobrir mais sobre Chemtrails. Podemos já estar habituados a ver estes riscos brancos no céu. Na pressa do nosso quotidiano nem paramos para os observar, apenas "passamos" por eles mas em todo o Mundo estes misteriosos traços estão associados a alterações climatéricas, utilização de metais pesados, problemas respiratorios e não só.

Um promenor a não ser descurado será o de um rasto normal de um jacto chamar-se Contrail e não durar mais de alguns minutos.

Não confundir com o tema deste blogue, Chemtrails, rastos que se mantêm por mais de 6 horas no céu espalhando-se e em conjunto com outros cobrem o céu de uma camada branca muito similar a nuvens.

Seja bem-vindo e por favor queira aprender mais sobre um tema que tem causado bastante polémica e interesse a grupos de pessoas de todo o Mundo.



(88) Chemtrails Portugal (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chemtrails-Portugal/122803704425975)


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Ewa in the Garden: Chemtrails in Algarve, Portugal (http://ewainthegarden.blogspot.com/2014/11/chemtrails-in-algarve-portugal.html)

"Come out, I show you something," the Doctor said.

It was calm and sunny morning in the Algarvian countryside, 7 km from The Atlantic Ocean and 24 km from Faro (Portugal). The Doctor is living and practicing in Algarve for many years already.

"Look in the sky and don't think these are the regular trails left by the planes. They started it again, because the vacation season has ended and the tourists left. They don't do it in the summer, there is too many people from different countries, some may be aware what's going on..."

Do not think 'it doesn't concern me', because after you start to watch your sky and realize the difference, it may concern you as much as I am concerned about the chemical trails (chemtrails) spotted first in Portugal at the beginning of September 2014. Until that day I was not aware about the issue.

It was being addressed even at the United Nations gathering. You may watch it here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw

Chemtrails, Here is your PROOF 100% Real "MUST WATCH" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw)

It needs to be brought to the public attention in Portugal that their country is being sprayed.

Spraying is made for weather modification purposes.

Maybe it wouldn't be something to worry about if they wouldn't spray using different dangerous chemical elements which are affecting our health.

The Doctor who brought this subject to my attention said that there is a correlation between the spraying and the number of patients coming to him with health issues.

The word "chemtrails" comes from chemical trail, which means that there are chemical elements in the sprays they make.

You may ask who are "they" I am referring to. These are private companies, government agencies.

If photos are not convincing enough, watch the film from UN gathering where the issue was addressed.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 15, 2015, 01:56:01 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 15, 2015, 01:53:36 AM
So, you are saying that geoengineering doesn't exist and is of no importance?
If it doesn't exist then is of no importance, right? :)

But no, I didn't say that geoengineering doesn't exist, as I was talking (as you know) about chemtrails, don't change things to make it look like I said something I didn't say, it makes you look bad.

QuoteHow would you have that opinion is you don't avail yourself of all available information?
When something is based on something we know does not work as advertised, do we need more information about it?

QuoteAnd exactly who are 'those talking about it' that you have based your opinion on?
I don't have a list of names of the people that present the information I got.

QuoteSo, where do you get your information to make such opinionated observations?
You do know that videos aren't the only way of transmitting information, don't you? I suppose you have heard about something called "reading", an old-fashioned technique that still has its use. ;)

QuoteWhat people? Certainly not people on videos, because you don't watch them.   ;)
Not all people use videos to convey their message, some still write about it.

QuoteThat's how it's done.    :)
Supposedly. So, when the winds change to an unexpected direction, what do they do, keep spraying regardless of where it is going to fall? The whole idea sounds as terrible way of doing things, highly unpredictable and too expensive.

QuoteThank you for your opinion.
No problem, I can always give my opinion to those that ask, and even when nobody asked. ;)

QuoteOne might suggest you avail yourself of burntheships and Zorgon's magnificent work on geoengineering and chemtrails...right here on TLM.    :)
I'm not interested enough in this subject to spend more time with it.

QuoteFYI, regarding Portugal and geoengineering and chemtrails...
Thanks, but I'm not interested. I live here and I have been interested in meteorology for many years, and I haven't noticed any difference. The fact that some people do not know how things happen (the "crazy sprinkler lady" is an excellent example) doesn't mean that they should accept the first suggestion anyone shows them. Show me real facts (preferably in written format, so I can read it when I want to, at the speed I want, going back and forth at my own leisure), and I may look at them.

PS: what's the connection to Jade Helm? Maybe it was in one of the videos, but could you tell us? Thanks in advance. :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 15, 2015, 11:29:41 PM
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Jade Helm 15 Will Go Forward Without Any Media Coverage Allowed, Conspiracy Theories Fueled (http://www.webpronews.com/jade-helm-15-will-go-forward-without-any-media-coverage-allowed-conspiracy-theories-fueled-2015-07)

10 July 2015
Jade Helm 15, a heavily controversial military exercise, will begin next week.

The media will have no access to what is going on during Jade Helm 15.

If you thought the original announcement of the operation spawned some outrageous conspiracy theories, the news that Jade Helm 15 will not be witness by any reporters ought to really throw fuel on the fire.

During Jade Helm 15, secret Special Operations troops will maneuver through private and publicly owned land in several southern states from July 15th-September 15th.

Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, spokesman for Army Special Operations Command, said the ASOC is considering allowing a small number of journalists to view specially chosen windows of Jade Helm later this summer, but no promises.

He said, "All requests from the media for interviews and coverage of U.S. Army Special Operations Command personnel, organizations and events are assessed for feasibility and granted when and where possible. We are dedicated to communicating with the public, while balancing that against the application of operations security and other factors."


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FOR THE RECORD:
Never before has such a drill of this apparent scope and magnitude occurred on US soil, and while military training exercises happen all the time, and while many or most of them are unknown to the public, this drill has a purpose – Training has purpose.

The only reason you would train on this scale and in this place, is to evaluate your operational abilities in an English speaking, Western environment...


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So, theoretically, JADE HELM-15 is training for a Middle-Eastern environment?

However, having lived in Texas (we loved it!) for a year following Hurricane Ike, we will bet those drinks are not Buried Hatchet Stouts (http://southernstarbrewing.com/beers/year-round-beers/buried-hatchet-stout/) and those guys don't look like the Texans we know.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwTqjVgQmIM

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New Pentagon manual declares journalists can be enemy combatants - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/21/military-manual-declares-war-on-spies-propagandist/?page=all)

By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Sunday, June 21, 2015

The Pentagon's new thick book of instructions for waging war the legal way says that terrorists also can be journalists.

The description appears in a 1,176-page, richly footnoted "Department of Defense Law of War Manual" that tells commanders the right and wrong way to kill the enemy. It says it's OK to shoot, explode, bomb, stab or cut the enemy. Surprise attacks and killing retreating troops also are permitted. But a U.S. warrior may not use poison or asphyxiating gases.

Going back decades, this is the Pentagon's first comprehensive, all-in-one legal guide for the four military branches, who over the years had issued their own law of war pamphlets for air, sea and ground warfare.

The manual pushes aside the George W. Bush-era label of "unlawful enemy combatant" for al Qaeda and the like. The new term of choice: "unprivileged belligerent."

The Pentagon has released a book of instructions on the "law of war," detailing acceptable ways of killing the enemy. The manual also states that journalists can be labeled "unprivileged belligerents," an obscure term that replaced "enemy combatant."

An eye-catching section deals with a definition of journalists and how they are expected to stay out of the fight.

The manual defines them this way: "In general, journalists are civilians. However, journalists may be members of the armed forces, persons authorized to accompany the armed forces, or unprivileged belligerents."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FeFF4DM1cQ

Lt Col Potter:JADE HELM May Be The Final Phase Of Multi Decade Plan To Round Up Dissidents

Published on Jun 25, 2015



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XaR4hFZx8

Jade Helm Impact For Military And Police

Published on Apr 3, 2015
In an earlier video, I discussed how the Russians, via Sputnik News, viewed Jade Helm 15. After doing an extensive evaluation, we have concluded Jade Helm has more to do with Federal control in the United States.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoxRnyA26as

Introducing Jade Helm

Published on Jun 20, 2015
Your host Tom D'Ambra pulls no punches in this show. While this show is a introduction to Operation Jade Helm 15 it also is a very candid and sometimes brutal reminder of just how it is we as a nation have gotten to this point.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqja241NWQ

EMP attack, China gold, Texas and Jade Helm

Published on Jun 15, 2015

Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) is it a Danger?

Sure, but we could protect ourselves by hooking up Atmospheric water generators to solar panels. We could limit our use of smart phones and store up extra water, beans and supplies for the extreme chance of a power outage. Candles, generators and guns!


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EMP- Protect Family, Homes and Community (http://www.emp-safeguard.com/Book-Contents.html)

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Volunteer Civilians Mobilize to Monitor Federal Troops During 'Operation Jade Helm' (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/11/volunteer-civilians-mobilize-to-monitor-federal-troops-during-operation-jade-helm/)

11 July 2015
A group of civilian volunteers are planning to mobilize across several states in an effort to monitor federal troops during the contentious military training exercise — "Operation Jade Helm."

Organized by Pete Lanteri (http://www.teapartytribune.com/2015/07/15/volunteer-watchdog-group-dispatches-to-western-states-to-monitor-jade-helm/), a former Marine, "Counter Jade Helm" is comprised of more than 200 volunteers in Arizona, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Southern California, Texas and Utah, according to the group's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/events/936947686336611/989267594437953/) with more than 6,000 likes.

"We're going to be watching what they do in the public," Lanteri told the Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Texans-organize-Operation-Counter-Jade-Helm-to-6378017.php).

"Obviously on a military base they can do whatever they want. But if they're going to train on public land we have a right as American citizens to watch what they're doing."

Army Special Operations didn't address questions about the civilian surveillance operation, but said in a statement, "This training exercise will go mostly unnoticed; not interfere with private citizens and not violate their privacy and rights. It will not disrupt their economies or livelihoods. State and local officials will receive updates as the exercise progresses and they are equally committed to ensuring the training occurs smoothly."

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With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

"In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

George Orwell
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 16, 2015, 03:43:55 AM
Operation Jade Helm 15 Gets Underway in Texas

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Operation Jade Helm 15, a military training exercise, begins Wednesday in 12 Texas counties: Bastrop, Burleson, Brazos, Edwards, Howard, Hudspeth, Kimble, Martin, Marion, Real, Schleicher and Tom Green. It will also take place at Camp Bullis in San Antonio and Camp Swift in Bastrop County.

QuoteIt's here.

Operation Jade Helm 15, the military training exercise that captured the fancy of conspiracy theorists earlier this year, begins Wednesday in a dozen Texas counties and across the Southwest. It will continue through the summer.

The launch comes about two months after what the military describes as a benign training exercise became an international sensation, spurred by speculation that it is the beginning of a federal takeover, perhaps with the help of a string of mysteriously closed Wal-Marts. The anxieties seemed to reach a boiling point in April at a meeting of the Bastrop County Commissioners Court, where a military spokesman was peppered with questions about the operation's true purpose.

Gov. Greg Abbott gave the theories a high-profile platform when he asked the Texas State Guard to keep an eye on the exercise to ensure Texans' "safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed." Issued shortly after the Bastrop meeting, the directive drew bipartisan criticism, but Abbott stood by his order, maintaining he was simply responding to constituent concerns.

http://www.texastribune.org/2015/07/15/operation-jade-helm-15-gets-underway-texas/

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 16, 2015, 03:49:27 AM
LOL Image title says:

tea_time_afghanistan

::)

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 17, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 19, 2015, 01:50:04 AM
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Jul 17, 2015

Recent Intel data..........on Tuesday, a Texas DPS trooper states that several 18 wheelers carrying MRAP vehicles where stopped near George West Texas on Hwy 37.

The reason for the stop was because the MRAPS were armed with machine guns mounted on the top turrets. The trooper stated that the drivers of the 18 wheelers were dressed in civilian clothing, but were actually Army enlisted personnel.

When questioned where they were going, the drivers of the 18 wheelers stated they were heading south towards the border.

The trooper states that several DPS troopers were involved in the stops and that the 18 wheel trucks and the MRAPs were seized/impounded and the drivers of the 18-wheel trucks were detained.

The trooper also stated that they are under orders by the governor to stop, detain and impound any military equipment being moved around in the state off of federal interstates highways and any military armed equipment/vehicles being moved around in the state on any roads or highways in Texas.
This intel was verified.

http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1496




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvJDhli6L70

Jade Helm: Is The U.S. Military Invading Texas? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvJDhli6L70)

Published on Jul 18, 2015
7 states, 8 weeks and 1200 soldiers.
Is America's military exercise, more than just training drill?
Is the U.S Government preparing to invade Texas?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 19, 2015, 02:17:13 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 19, 2015, 01:50:04 AM
The trooper states that several DPS troopers were involved in the stops and that the 18 wheel trucks and the MRAPs were seized/impounded and the drivers of the 18-wheel trucks were detained.
That should be relatively easy to confirm, an 18-wheel truck is not something easy to hide, but I suspect we will never receive real confirmation.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 19, 2015, 02:51:30 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 19, 2015, 02:17:13 AM
That should be relatively easy to confirm, an 18-wheel truck is not something easy to hide, but I suspect we will never receive real confirmation.

Greetings:

What part of 'vetted' information do you not understand?

Or, do want to go on record as calling Steve Quayle a liar?

QuoteI suspect we will never receive real confirmation.

Based on what?

Your understanding of the AI program integration in JADE HELM?

Did you fully understand the implications of this 'exercise' as was detailed in the 'DJ' interview with J.B. Wells of Caravan to Midnight (Episode 309)?

What do you make of a 'network centric warfare environment'?

Why should WE (Americans) care?

The Geo-Spacial Intelligence Network will predict human behavior and reacting to it before it occurs.

GEOINT's main objective is to achieve centralized command and control over humanity... a neural net.

GEOINT will develop and execute objectives based on its interpretation of political will.

It develops virtual models based on the repetitive types of crimes that can predict future crimes that have not yet been committed by either individuals or groups in the COA (Civilian Operation Area) and then execute a pre-emptive course of action.

We can sum up the JADE-2 system this way: It's a self-organizing, vision-capable, expectation-capable, recognition-capable, situationally-aware, emotion-intelligent goal-oriented system.

The system thinks, plans and executes.

Sky Net is fully aware and is buried deep in Jade Helm 15. There is now an AI program - Jade 2 - that may determine your freedom, your personal potential future as a free, living human being in these United States.

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With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 19, 2015, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 19, 2015, 02:51:30 AM
What part of 'vetted' information do you not understand?
None, as that word isn't on the text.  :P
Yes, it says "this intel was verified", but who verified it?

QuoteOr, do want to go on record as calling Steve Quayle a liar?
Interesting tactics, that almost sounds like a threat.  ::)
I do not usually call liar to people I don't know, or people I do not have any way of knowing if they are the source of a known lie, but when I do I will call them liar, regardless of who they are (or think they are).

As I was reading this yesterday after I finished something I spent most of the day doing, I decided to take a look into this, and did a search on that text, and found it posted as being from an email received by someone on July 16th 2015 9:08 AM, as you can see here (http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/health/military_veterans_va/news.php?q=1437233923) (is that site's name a coincidence?).

In it, although they have a link to that Steve Quayle page, the text is slightly different (no "Al" at the beginning (what that's supposed to mean?), "Hwy" instead of "Hgwy", an extra "(presumed to be heading southbound toward McAllen and/or Brownsville)") and the text appears formatted in paragraphs, so it doesn't look like it was simply copied from Steve Quayle's site or vice-versa, but both texts have the word "turrents" when it should have been (I think) "turrets".

So, what's the real source of that text and who verified that intel?

QuoteBased on what?
The lack of evidence that this really happened, since Tuesday there was more than enough time for anyone to see all those armed MRAP vehicles and the 18 wheelers.

QuoteYour understanding of the AI program integration in JADE HELM?
The supposed AI program allegedly integrated in Jade Helm? No. And from what I have studied of AI we are still a long way from having an AI system that can be trusted with important decisions.

QuoteDid you fully understand the implications of this 'exercise' as was detailed in the 'DJ' interview with J.B. Wells of Caravan to Midnight (Episode 309)?
I don't have the slightest idea of who "DJ" or "J. B. Wells" are and why they are supposed to be such important pieces in this case.

QuoteWhat do you make of a 'network centric warfare environment'?
It sounds like a warfare environment in which the participants are connected in some way. The easiest thing to share in a network environment is information and communications, and to me, that was never in the military, it sounds like information and communications is as important (or even more important) than fire power, as fire power directed to the wrong target is worth than not using any.

QuoteWhy should WE (Americans) care?
I don't think you should, but you will, I suppose that's part of being American. ;)

QuoteThe Geo-Spacial Intelligence Network will predict human behavior and reacting to it before it occurs.

GEOINT's main objective is to achieve centralized command and control over humanity... a neural net.

GEOINT will develop and execute objectives based on its interpretation of political will.

It develops virtual models based on the repetitive types of crimes that can predict future crimes that have not yet been committed by either individuals or groups in the COA (Civilian Operation Area) and then execute a pre-emptive course of action.
I think things would be easier if the English language would use different words for information-related "intelligence" and though-related "intelligence", I think many misconceptions arise from the use of that word.  ::)

I don't see GEOINT as being more than a geospacial statistical tool, and tools do not make decisions.

QuoteWe can sum up the JADE-2 system this way: It's a self-organizing, vision-capable, expectation-capable, recognition-capable, situationally-aware, emotion-intelligent goal-oriented system.
I highly doubt it.
Just one question: is that your own conclusion or is it a quote?

QuoteSky Net is fully aware and is buried deep in Jade Helm 15. There is now an AI program - Jade 2 - that may determine your freedom, your personal potential future as a free, living human being in these United States.
I don't live in the United States. ;D

PS: have you ever thought that by constantly looking for enemies around and among them, the US people cannot really be free?

PPS: should people look for her in the US streets? After all, her name is Jade.  :P
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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 21, 2015, 03:20:33 AM
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23 JULY 2015: 3:45 PM EST.     TOO FUNNY...THEY PULLED THAT ORIGINAL VID IN ONE DAY, BUT NOT PT.2   :P    ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGWu5uxVgc

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGWu5uxVgc%3Cbr%20/%3EJADE%20HELM%2015:%20The%20Rise%20of%20Artificial%20Intelligence%20(Part%202)%20-%20YouTube%5B/url)

Published on Jul 16, 2015
This full spectrum analysis of the Jade-2 Artificial Intelligence System will have you thinking skynet has just arrived in Texas. Jade 2 is in command & control of the Jade Helm exercise... we say again, Jade-2 is at the helm and it is fully aware and operational.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khiP8yBmXH8

Jade Helm 15 Critics Attacked by The Lamestream Media - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khiP8yBmXH8)

Published on Jul 17, 2015
Jade Helm 15 Critics Attacked by The Lamestream Media?Alex Jones and Infowars, in an attempt to steer public opinion in favor of the domestic military drill.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXT5pRV7c_M

Jade Helm 15 Critics Get Owned! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXT5pRV7c_M)
Published on Jul 17, 2015



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTjXJb6oqM

Jade Helm 15 Begins & It's NOT Like Other Exercises - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTjXJb6oqM)

Published on Jul 17, 2015
Jade Helm 15 Begins & It's NOT Like Other Exercises



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN7cXj8-cGA

JADE HELM 15: Covert SkyNet - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN7cXj8-cGA)

Published on Jul 17, 2015
The Jade-2 System is a "Network Centric Software Based Artificial Intelligence Program at the Helm (i.e. Jade Helm).

Recently obtained Department of Defense documents reveal the true nature of Jade Helm 2015. They're testing a new command and control protocol called the Jade-2 System.

Analysts describe the Jade-2 System as a highly sophisticated Artificial Intelligence network that is "self-aware" and plugged into numerous agencies and monitoring human activity, foreign and domestic... From CCTV to social media networks.

It's purpose is not only military, it is for the entire human domain. This full spectrum analysis of the Jade-2 Artificial Intelligence System will have you thinking Skynet has just arrived.

Jade 2 is in command & control of the Jade Helm exercise... we say again, Jade-2 is at the helm and it is fully aware and operational.

MRAPS by state map - AR15.COM (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1633066_MRAPS_by_state_map.html)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXYECK70jo

JADE HELM: The Armband - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXYECK70jo)

Published on Jun 23, 2015
JADE HELM. One thing separates the military from the civilians, the ARMBAND worn by the military. Is America being conditioned for the rebirth of the Nazi style?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgjUTIFbSck

Jade Helm FEMA Camp: Walmart Founder Sam Walton TRUTH EXPOSED! (Rhema word) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgjUTIFbSck)

Published on Jul 13, 2015
Walmart Jade Helm Martial Law, Fema Camp, the truth about Walmart founder Sam Walton's evil scheme is exposed by almighty God.


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What the Media Won't Dare Reveal to You About Jade Helm | Politics (http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/07/what-the-media-wont-dare-reveal-to-you-about-jade-helm-2726858.html)

Thursday, July 16, 2015

The Jade Helm military exercise kicked off today and already the media is diligently beating away at "those crazy conspiracy nuts". They're all to happy to focus on some of the more unbelievable theories floating around, but not a single agency has discussed what was revealed months ago.

In the first video below, Lee Ann McAdoo further confirms what I talked about yesterday in my post titled, Russian Television Reports Martial Law Fear Sweeping Parts of U.S. (http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/07/russian-television-reports-martial-law-fear-sweeping-parts-of-u-s-2726776.html)

Despite mountains of evidence piling up daily that something nefarious is clearly beginning to take shape right in front of us, the American media is noticeably ABSENT in reporting anything of significance. All we hear them are crickets from their lack of reporting anything "newsworthy" all together, or as Lee Ann discusses in the video, they default to finger pointing and laughing.

Our own media won't use an ounce of journalistic integrity and actually do their jobs, so Russian Television did it for them, complete with an accurate lesson in American History.

In the video, Lee Ann brings up what is conveniently being lost in all the buzz, and predictably something the media has stayed far away from entirely since word of Jade Helm first broke, and that's the operational goal of Jade Helm: To Master the Human Domain. What does that mean?

Jade Helm is more than a simple military exercise. If you understand the technologies, you will see that Jade Helm is more an intelligence operation using Geospatial Intelligence mapping.

In military terminology, "the human domain," or "the human domain analytics," refers to anything dealing with people.

The battlefield of the future is not going to be between Nation states, rather there is literally a war on for your mind. It's going to be about "Total Information Awareness."

He that controls information, controls.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWgdUJ4bl4

What They Won't Tell You About Jade Helm - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWgdUJ4bl4)


In the second video below, BrewingWaves confirms much of what was learned in a previous post of mine titled, CIA and Jade Helm Surround U.S. Veterans' Homes Thanks to Maps Provided by Bilderberg Head Peter Thiel (http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/06/cia-and-jade-helm-surround-u-s-veterans-thanks-to-maps-given-by-bilderberg-head-2719294.html).

To briefly recap and save some time, "JADE" is a software application the military is now using that allocates manpower and equipment on-the-fly based on prior experience, prior events, and the capability of being able to "predict criminal activity."

It is an artificial intelligence application that learns which tactics and personnel were most successful in different scenarios, and then builds on its knowledge as it goes. That is the "JADE" part of Jade Helm.

Remind you of any movies you've seen? [Hint: Terminator Series]

JADE is taking the helm (lead) in this exercise, and according to the information in my previous post, for now the plan is to encompass the most dense pockets of veterans based on location information obtained by Peter Thiel and then turned over to the CIA during Bilderberg.


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WARNING: VIDEOS NOT FOR FAINT OF HEART!
VERY DISTURBING CONTENT!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGJNBqgSAqU

JADE HELM 15 Transhumanism And The Depopulation Agenda TIED TO THE LGBT - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGJNBqgSAqU)

Published on Jun 27, 2015
Programmable microbes?
Humans turning into cyborgs?
People extending or even living beyond their life spans?

These all sound like things you can see in a science-fiction movie, but the US Department of Defense is actually taking steps to turn these things into reality. Since its foundation in July 2014, the Pentagon's Biological Technology Office (BTO) has been making giant steps in engineering, information sciences and biotechnology to gain technological advantage, particularly in warfare.

Neurologist Geoffrey Ling, head of this new office, said the Pentagon's researches are looking at developing technologies that are previously unimaginable, such as robots and aircraft being controlled by the human mind, or human memories being downloaded into hard drives.

FORMER HOST OF COAST TO COAST JOHN B. WELLS SAID THIS ABOUT THE NEXT VIDEO:

"EVEN IF EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS WRONG, AND I DON'T SUSPECT IT IS, IT'S STILL JUST SO COMPLEX, AND SO DIABOLICAL, AND SO SCREWED UP, BUT IN THIS BEAUTIFULLY ENGINEERED WAY, IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY MONSTROUS!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkKhIupCUSY

JADE HELM THE HARD CORE TRUTH FINALLY EXPLAINED! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkKhIupCUSY)

Ok, if you're not in cardiac arrest from watching the most recent video directly above, either you need someone to help you put your tongue back in your mouth or you're already out the door and sprinting down the street. Folks, this just keeps going downhill. I'm warning you. Much of what follows I've posted before, but for convenience have included it here with the newer information above.

You know how I've been screaming from the rooftops forever about the dangers of the ingestible RFID chips that DAARPA, GOOGLE, and the Department of Defense have been working on (http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/06/prepare-to-be-microchipped-this-is-not-a-request-2717904.html), it was for good reason I assure you.

The software that is running "Operation Jade Helm" is from a company called, "Palantir," and we know Palantir (http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-of-intelligence-how-a-deviant-philosopher-built-palantir-a-cia-funded-data-mining-juggernaut/) was funded by the CIA.

What we don't know is whether Bilderberg Chief Peter Thiel (http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2012-07-03/ted-cruz-mega-donor-gay-pro-pot-paypal-founding-billionaire#.Va2lrUtkDLQ) asked the CIA to fund and build it for him, or if the CIA funded and built it, and then asked Thiel to run it.

Peter, Peter Pumpkin Eater (http://www.vox.com/2014/11/14/7213833/peter-thiel-palantir-paypal)

The Bilderberg conference is an annual meeting of around 140 politicians, EU policymakers, industry leaders & European royalty.

Participants (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-03/full-list-2013s-bilderberg-attendees) at the 2014 conference in Copenhagen included:- the head of the IMF, the head of Nato, the head of MI6, the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, the Swedish and Spanish foreign ministers, the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Chairmen of the Greek and Canadian national banks, the Chairman & CEO of Shell, the Executive Chairman of Google, the Chairman of Deutsche Bank, the Chairman of HSBC, the Chairman & Chief Executive of BP and the CEO of Airbus.

The Bilderberg Group is governed by a Steering Committee, chaired by Henri de Castries, Chairman & CEO of AXA. Also on the Steering Committee are: James A. Johnson, a director of Goldman Sachs; Klaus Kleinfeld, a director of Morgan Stanley; Peter Thiel, a director of Facebook; Kenneth M. Jacobs, Chairman & CEO of Lazard; and Robert Zoellick, Chairman of Goldman Sachs' Board of International Advisors.

The conference agenda is set to include the situation in Ukraine and Syria, and the TTIP trade agreement: senior lobbyists for TTIP from the business and financial sector will be attending.'

So, Peter Thiel is a Facebook director representing Facebook on the six-member Steering Committee of The Bilderberg Group, of which two members are from Goldman Sachs and one from Morgan Stanley.


The Bilderberg Group is governed by a Steering Committee, chaired by Henri de Castries, Chairman & CEO of AXA.

Also on the Steering Committee are:

James A. Johnson, a director of Goldman Sachs

Klaus Kleinfeld, a director of Morgan Stanley

Peter Thiel, a director of Facebook

Kenneth M. Jacobs, Chairman & CEO of Lazard

Robert Zoellick, Chairman of Goldman Sachs' Board of International Advisors




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Question: If everyone involved with JADE HELM-15 is wearing armbands, just how are they supposed to infiltrate and 'blend in' with the general populace and go about their 'Special Operations' business undetected?

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With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 21, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 21, 2015, 03:20:33 AM
Question: If everyone involved with JADE HELM-15 is wearing armbands, just how are they supposed to infiltrate and 'blend in' with the general populace and go about their 'Special Operations' business undetected?
I suppose they aren't. Were they supposed to be?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 23, 2015, 09:22:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJZkpfeSEtg

Jade Helm 15, Dead Citizens, Media Blackout And Psychological Warfare (2015 Martial Law Update) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJZkpfeSEtg)

by Bret Bernhoft

Published on Jul 17, 2015
Jade Helm 15 is an unprecedentedly massive domestic military training exercise intended to expose thousands of both American and international troops to realistic combat experiences in our own backyards.

And on July 15, 2015 this homeland security and intelligence operation officially began in full swing, coming out from the shadows and into the daylight for purposes of intimidation, data gathering (primarily so) and property confiscation among many others.

It has been in the 48+ hours since Jade Helm 15 has begun that more information, insight and wisdom about and from this social occupation staging event has been created and organized than any other period leading up to it.

Among this new glut of information are several new moving pieces and events that I would like to address in this video which I feel are especially important and indicative of how the next two months of Jade Helm 15 are going to be in quality/character, with the volume of similar near future moving pieces likely to be exponentially greater.

A first new aspect to Jade Helm 15 that has emerged over the past twenty four hours is evidence that (as is being widely shared among Jade Helm 15 observers) is that in fact a citizen has been shot dead by military troops related to this domestic training exercise (with more information capable of being accessed via link #1 in the show notes).

However it should be mentioned, as the Pete Santilli Show YouTube channel does in a video released on July 15th, 2015 (which can be accessed via link #2 in the show notes below) that this information is possibly part of a larger PsyOp or Psychological Operation by the military intended to share viral disinformation capable of turning others into zombies who then perpetuate the false data, so always check the sources of any report.

The larger observation here is that in addition to the Jade Helm 15 troop deployment is simultaneously conducted psychological warfare by the military unto the raw minds of 319 million Americans, which of course is nothing new and a great historical example of which can be found via link #4 in the show notes below.

Essentially, whether or not the reports of a first innocent civilian having been gunned down by Jade Helm 15 military personnel are true or not, the information is (in of itself) capable of ratcheting the zeitgeist of an entire population up several notches, which is (ultimately) the purpose of military propaganda in one form or another.

Another important moving piece of Jade Helm 15 to surface over the past forty eight hours is the complete lack of coverage by the mainstream media of the Jade Helm 15 domestic training exercise except in the context of referring to concerned citizens as "crazy conspiracists," which is extraordinarily dangerous and outlandishly irresponsible language to use.

However, as is discussed in a previous Jade Helm 15 video on this YouTube channel, there has been and will be no access given to any media outlets by the military for interviews or filming of Jade Helm 15 related activities, which certainly is a challenge.

But you would think that this "challenge of censorship" would inspire the mainstream media to become exceptionally concerned and focused on investigating Jade Helm 15 in its fullest, but this is obviously not the case as there is indeed an intentional conspiracy for a media blackout.

All I have to say is that Edward R. Murrow would be all up in this topic fighting for clarity, but the mainstream media (as he so poignantly predicted) has changed for the worst and now acts as an extension of encroaching militarism.

Jade Helm 15 is one of the most important and relevant Now moment events unfolding in our present day reality, so as more information and context about this topic emerges, I will of course continue to share what I find through new videos on this YouTube channel.

Sources:
1 - http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvid... (First #JadeHelm15 Civilian Casualty Reported)

2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb3pW... (Commentary About Importance Of Source Checking)

3 - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYr9... (Pete Santilli Show YouTube Channel)

4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okcBj... (1960's MKULTRA Subliminal Government Mind Control Video)

5 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Ni... (Good Night, And Good Luck On Wikipedia)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 23, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Vzkrp0kbY

MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT by PENTAGON on JADE HELM - MARTIAL LAW (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Vzkrp0kbY)

Published on Jul 13, 2015
This announcement is earth shattering and It confirms what we suspected.

When asked directly by the press about Jade Helm 15, they seemed to admit they were stumped.
They had no answer.
But there is damning video that shows the truth!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s79jRn92fs

Jade Helm 15, Deadly Weapons, PsyOps And Police Brutality (2015 Martial Law Context) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s79jRn92fs)

by Bret Bernhoft
Published on Jul 19, 2015
Jade Helm 15 is an unprecedentedly massive domestic military training exercise involving thousands of troops and support personnel which is scheduled to take place between July 15th and September 15th in the southwestern region of the United States.

And many individuals across the country (as well as planet) have been alerted to both the scale and likely impact of Jade Helm 15, a military operation intended to expose soldiers to "realistic combat experiences" right in our own back yards.

In this video I am going to answer four questions put to me by you the viewer about Jade Helm 15, so let's get started.

Questions:

1 - What are your experiences with Jade Helm 2 type technologies or related research?

2 - Why are American police being equipped with military technologies?

3 - Have you come across any information about the kinds of ammunition Jade Helm 15 troops will be using?

4 - What have you noticed as being obvious examples of PsyOps related to Jade Helm 15?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Dyna on July 23, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
I was surprised that only 1200 troops were participating, it doesn't seem that many for the involvement of the various groups.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 24, 2015, 03:31:05 AM
Quote from: Dyna on July 23, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
I was surprised that only 1200 troops were participating, it doesn't seem that many for the involvement of the various groups.

Especially when one considers that if any of the multitude of internet videos from the interested public are true regarding the movement of tanks, Bearcats, Humvees and satellite uplink vehicles, it would work out to one of each for each of the '1200' participants.   :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 26, 2015, 03:58:06 AM
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The BS that is being inserted daily into the psy-op known as JADE HELM-15 in an attempt to ratchet-up the fear factor and perhaps trigger a confrontation that will end badly - for both sides - and result in what has been the endgame plan all along... martial law.


First #JadeHelm15 Civilian Casualty Reported *** Warning: Graphic Images [Video] (http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/208360/first_jadehelm15_civilian_casualty_reported__warning_graphic_images/)

Uploaded by id555 on Jul 16, 2015


And then this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMDMmMMgF9E

#JadeHelm15 Hoax Put American Lives In Danger - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMDMmMMgF9E)

Published on Jul 21, 2015
Link to tonight's LIVE show: https://youtu.be/f6p-J3FNUPg?

Unfortunately there will always be those among us who feel they have something to prove.

We do not profess to be perfect and confess to our listeners on a regular basis that we are apt to get "it" wrong from time to time, it is just the nature of being in a media where most of the information we use is based on trust that NOBODY would want to do harm to us, especially on purpose.

Sadly, someone did want to do just that in what they call an effort to prove what mindless people our listeners are.

We at the Pete Santilli Show take offense. When someone else in alternative media confesses that they purposefully lied and used deception to make a fool of and or mock the work that other people dedicate their lives to, then yes, we have something to say about that.

First of all, Ryan Brooks up until yesterday was what most would consider a reliable source. He is former military - Does a podcast hocking silver with Chris Duane - and though he has his opinion about Jade Helm, he gave no indication he would be capable of pulling a malicious stunt that could potentially cause people to lose their personal freedom and maybe even their life.

Up until this morning we had never heard of this guy Ryan Brooks who now states he was just taking a morning run and somehow came up with the elaborate plan to hoax a video and impose himself into the lives of thousands of people who could care less that he is somehow butt-hurt over not getting enough attention when it came to his views about Jade Helm.

He dangled his proverbial "carrot" as he called it, so that he could then righteously point a finger at everyone else and admonish and judge the thousands of hours we have all collectively put into bringing the best footage and analysis we can possibly bring with the limited amount of data we have and then he stands there with a smirk on face patting himself on the back.

We have brought on several former military experts and many others to give ongoing analysis about what Jade Helm is and we think we have done a pretty damn good job.

You may now put this guy in the same category with Mark Kessler, you know the ex-cop that infiltrated alternative media with a bunch of bogus videos, used everyone he came in contact with to get information about the patriot movement, and then cried like a girl about how everyone else was so terrible and he was so amazing for wanting to fork everybody over.

So Ryan Brooks got what he wanted ..... He has our attention. Dahboo7, LTC Roy Potter, Tom Lacovara Stewart, Blaine Cooper, and our listeners - will have their say tonight on The Pete Santilli Show.???

Original "hoax" video we posted on July 20th: https://youtu.be/iZsyvr-MYC8

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_PhTSG9Xqw

Jade Helm 15 Texas Militia and Military Firefight! Video Exposed - YouTube[ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_PhTSG9Xqw)

Published on Jul 21, 2015


Even Alex Jones picked up the story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRw7WXMr9fI

Fake Jade Helm Militia Firefight Video Exposed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRw7WXMr9fI)

Published on Jul 20, 2015
A video touted as a "bone rattling firefight" between Jade Helm military & militia in Whitney, TX was posted on July 20 in various alternative media. ??Rob Dew & David Knight debunk the video and analyze real concerns about Jade Helm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlILd-_5Ybo

Terror Attacks During Jade Helm To Be Blamed On Patriots As Domestic Terrorists (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlILd-_5Ybo)

The Alex Jones Channel
Published on Jul 22, 2015
Alex Jones Predicts Jade Helm will be used to set up patriots, gun owners and militias right after a terror attack like 9/11.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 26, 2015, 04:13:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJbkau93SA

JADE HELM WARNING/THE PROBE/PART 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJbkau93SA)

Published on Jul 18, 2015
Go to http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com and watch the video in the top left corner. I cannot play it here. It shows the evil in the NWO plan to enslave every human on the planet.

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJTNCKvvljc

Jade Helm/The Probe/Part 2 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJTNCKvvljc)

BPEarthWatch
Published on Jul 18, 2015
Masters of the Human Domain. http://www.BpearthWatch.Com
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 26, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
Let me see if I am understanding this right:

1 - Everyone and his dog post videos telling us that Jade Helm 15 is going to be "the worst thing ever";
2 - Some time after, when Jade Helm starts, we get some unconfirmed information about bad things happening in Jade Helm 15;
3 - Now we start to see some of the people that posted that Jade Helm 15 was going to be "the worst thing ever" posting evidence that there are people making Jade Helm 15 look worst than it is, and that we shouldn't listen to unconfirmed reports.

I think we should have started on (3).  ::)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 26, 2015, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 26, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
I think we should have started on (3).  ::)

Oh HELL NO!

Now we get to say "We told you so!"  :P

Now wait till October  :D
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 26, 2015, 07:40:29 PM
Patriots vs Domestic Terrorists

The armed Oathkeepers and supporters that showed up at the Bundy Ranch and forced 200 armed GOONS hired by the BLM to back down without a SINGLE shot being fired...

Those are PATRIOTS

A bunch of Rednecks going apesh!t over a perceived threat where there was none... those would be Domestic Terrorists :P

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 27, 2015, 03:08:28 AM
Greetings:

While some dissemblers and deniers are having such a hoot about JADE HELM-15, those that have an interest in their future just might want to check this out.

We have dropped numerous links to the various rabbit holes, but, as usual, shooting the messenger has become the sport of the day...so we bring in our brothers-in-arms - the big guns.    ;)

IMHO, Elias has done an exemplary job in the research and conclusions he offers in this (so far) 4-part series.


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JADE HELM 2015: Questions And Reflections: Part Four: MAIN CORE (http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections-part-four-main-core/)

by Elias Alias , June 17, 2015

Editor's Note: I am both pleased and grateful that The Sullen Bell has spared me the task of outlining the content of the first three parts of this series on JADE HELM 2015.  Readers who have not already read the previous installments may quickly refer to The Sullen Bell for an outline synopsis.

I will leave this window open for you, so you can click back and forth as you wish.
http://www.thesullenbell.com/2015/06/16/warfare-on-domestic-politics/

Again I must reiterate that this series of articles is not an official Oath Keepers statement of policy, but instead is simply an open letter from your editor to Oath Keepers members and friends.

Also, please be advised that at the bottom of this article is the mind-blowing video from John B. Wells' Caravan To Midnight -- episode 309: Jade Helm Decoded, in which John B. Wells hosts the astonishing mystery lady, "DJ".

If you do not read any of these four articles, at least scoll down to that video link and treat yourself to the most comprehensive knowledge available to date on JADE HELM 2015 in a perspective which, imo, renders JADE HELM 2015 more of a symptom than the problem itself.

Readers who have actually followed this series of articles and absorbed all the background materials I've included will have the best possible perception with which to comprehend the message John B. Wells' anonymous guest "DJ" has broadcast.

Patience is not only a virtue, it is a necessity in trying to understand our modern world and the inherent threats to our lives and liberty. I want to thank each of you who have diligently waded through this series. And I should say, I have deleted a lot of material which actually should be included, for the sake of brevity. I will probably edit-in more material in coming times.


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PREFACE TO PART FOUR
IN THIS SERIES ON JADE HELM 2015

Parts <one (http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections/)> and <two (http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections-part-two/)> touched upon these basics:

1) The fact that JADE HELM 2015 is an Unconventional Warfare exercise;

2) The fact that UW includes PSYOP and Civil Affairs activity;

3) The fact that Civil Affairs involves cultural anthropology and social study;

4) The Army's Unconventional Warfare listing of "INSTRUMENTS OF NATIONAL POWER";

5) The Globalists' view of the "Impact of Global Political Awakening" (by we the little people);

6) The economic effects of the military-industrial complex activity on the U.S. economy;

7) The fact of complicity between the UN's NGO operations such as Agenda-21 and government's perceived need to control its population while Agenda-21 initiation is in process;

8] Asymetric Warfare and its relation to Unconventional, Special, and Irregular Warfare;

9) The creation of perpetual war by creating new enemies one after another;

10) The military's interface/merger with local police through DHS' Fusion Centers;

11) Social planners' concerns and confronting problems which would occur if permanent peace were to break out;

12) DHS profiling of American citizens, with help from SPLC;

13) Government-sponsored false flag events, such as were proposed in the Northwoods Document of 1962 at the Pentagon;

14) Mapping the Human Terrain and "Mastering The Human Domain";

15) Training scenarios targeting the Tea Party and/or Constitutionalist citizens.



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Part <three (http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections-part-three-mindwar/)> added this bouquet of dots to be connected:


16) The 1980 US Army document named "From PSYOP To MindWar".

17) The 2013 published book entitled "MindWar".

18) We remembered the Army's use of the term "NATIONAL POWER" in their 2008 manual on Unconventional Warfare (which is the type of exercise JADE HELM 2015 is conducting, according to ARSOF's announcement.)

19) Self ownership, including ownership of one's own mind, the importance of that.

20) Unconventional Warfare (UW), Irregular Warfare (IR), and MindWar (MW).

21) The two types of "mind": The individual mind and the group mind.

22) The Quantum properties of conscious awareness (this we only linked subtly to as an url under a photograph, which leads to diplopi ). >>>embedded link: https://diplopi.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/does-consciousness-arise-from-quantum-processes-in-the-brain/?

23) The reality that our ability to think as individuals is now under attack by our government.

24) The book "Propaganda" by Edward Bernays with a couple of quoted passages therefrom.

25) The framers' concept of "Nature or Nature's God".

26) President Obama's support of indefinite detention.

27) John Whitehead on the militarization of America.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWLkg-tB5U

Turning America into a Battlefield: A Blueprint for Locking Down the Nation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWLkg-tB5U)


28) The government's use of propaganda as exemplified by the classic old film "Reefer Madness".

29) Psychotronic research for military purposes in PSYOP.

30) DARPA's brain-machine interface studies and DARPA military helmet prototypes.

31) The NIJ's 1997 report on the Partnership between law enforcement and the military.

32) OOTW (Operations Other Than War).

33) The merger of U.S. military with Canadian military.

34) Iran-Contra-Mena scandal as a black-op by the Intelligence community.

35) A video revealing that the author of MindWar (both the paper and the book) is Michael Aquino.

36) We exposed the obvious fallacy of logic in Aquino's paper regarding PSYOP during the Viet Nam War by revealing the hidden history about U.S. military relations with Ho Chi Minh in World War II when he was our ally.

37) ELF waves and their appeal to PSYOP/MindWar operatives (PsyWarriors).


All of those sub-topics needed to be put in place before we could look from an over-view perspective at the marvelous conceit of our General government's nefarious plan — Yea, indeed, "conspiracy"! —  to enslave every American and even every human being on the planet.

JADE HELM 2015 is a very small aspect of the much larger goal of conquest being even now executed within the collective consciousness of mankind.

As we'll see, the MAIN CORE list is merely for we who are awake, that we may be dealt with before the general population wakes up to what is happening to our world.

That said, let's recall something I published on April 02, 2015 — the Caravan To Midnight show in which John B. Wells hosted Patrick Wood of the August Forecast & Review.

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/technocracy-rising-patrick-wood-on-caravan-to-midnight/
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 27, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 27, 2015, 03:08:28 AM
We have dropped numerous links to the various rabbit holes, but, as usual, shooting the messenger has become the sport of the day...so we bring in our brothers-in-arms - the big guns.    ;)
Nobody is "shooting the messenger", stop acting like a victim.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on July 27, 2015, 01:53:58 PM
No captured towns? No packed FEMA camps?  No seized weapons?  No violations of rights and freedoms?  The military is acting professional and civil?

I hope they're working on Jade Helm 16.  JH15 is face planting.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: this_is_who_we_are on July 27, 2015, 03:00:37 PM
These items may be of interest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnBKhLN-31I

AMERICAN MALLS BEING TURNED INTO FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN OCTOBER? GUARD TOWERS? ~ CONSCIOUSLY ENLIGHTENED
June 29, 2015   
https://shakeymclovin.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/american-malls-being-turned-into-fema-concentration-camps-in-october-guard-towers-consciously-enlightened/

Furthermore:

Quote"Sam Walton was in Army Intelligence. Sam Walton, the guy that made Walmart he ran the Japanese Internment Camps in the USA. He is a key connection in the intelligence world and so the idea that Walmart would be used as internment places is completely consistent with the history of Sam Walton and don't forget he is from Arkansas where Bill and Hillary Clinton are from."

- Jay Weidner

The Connection Between Sam Walton (Walmart) and Jade Helm
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/connection-between-sam-walton-walmart-jade-helm-ron-tex


And here's something else that's weird.

I ran across a thread recently, maybe last week, or a couple weeks ago on godlikeproductions. I know. You don't even need to warn me.

But the thread was called: "FEMA Camp "Malls" architectural design firm, notice something...".
And I forgot all about it until I was constructing this post. The aurthor of that thread looked up the company designing these malls with "guard towers" and was struck, as I recall, by the company logo. See photo below. Three pyramids. Now this may not be all that odd on the surface, and it wasn't to me either. I was planning on linking it in this post though, but then the real weirdness began.

GLP deleted that thread. And there are no web caches of their threads, being who they are of course. So I was even more determined to track down the info this guy posted in his thread so I could pass it on here.

All I needed was the company name he referred to in his thread, but since the thread was gone, it was tricky, but I finally (after about an hour looking) found exactly the snippet of the thread I needed through Google search that contained the name of the architect:

http://www.adamsassociatesarch.com/

So... Notice the three pyramid logo. Also notice that one of their retail space designs looks a lot like the roof of the Denver International Airport. That was an interesting find as well.

So I guess the guy investigated a little too much for the spooks, and they deleted his thread. But not my memory of it. So maybe you'll find it interesting.

But certainly that these new malls going up with minimal egress and "guard towers" built into the design is of interest, yes?

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on July 27, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on July 27, 2015, 03:00:37 PM
So... Notice the three pyramid logo.
When I looked at the logo, the first thing that came to my mind was that it represents three mountains, not pyramids, but then I noticed that the company's name is Adams Associates Architects, three As, so I suppose that's just a badly designed logo. :)

QuoteAlso notice that one of their retail space designs looks a lot like the roof of the Denver International Airport. That was an interesting find as well.
I don't think that means much, but as you probably noticed a long time ago I'm not a fan of conspiracies. ;)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on July 27, 2015, 11:16:14 PM
Shopping Malls NEED Prison Camp tactics :P

Here in Vegas the Boulevard Mall recently did a MAJOR upgrade.. the reason they need it was because the mall was failing

But a revamp won't help, because the mall is surrounded by some of the cities worst 'ghetto' complexes and the reason the mall is failing is because these people hang out at the mall and the theft is putting many merchants out of business

So maybe they should have revamped by adding more watch towers :P  Many of the stores have closed outright including to big department stores

Just the wrong part of town :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 30, 2015, 05:07:49 AM
SkyNet is aware.

Leaked Documents Show FBI, DEA, & Army Can Control Your Computer (http://theantimedia.org/leaked-documents-show-fbi-dea-army-can-control-your-computer/)

Carey Wedler
July 7, 2015

ANTIMEDIA (http://theantimedia.org)
Leaked emails from an Italian-based hacking company reveal that government agencies engage in surveillance (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/06/hacking-team-spyware-fbi) more invasive than previously thought, spending millions of dollars on spyware and malware software to accomplish their questionable goals.

Tellingly, their use of the product places them squarely in the same category as other repressive regimes around the world.

After hackers ironically hacked Hacking Team (http://www.wired.com/2015/07/fbi-spent-775k-hacking-teams-spy-tools-since-2011/), a Milan-based company that sells strictly to governments, hundreds of gigabytes of emails and financial records were leaked.

The emails show that the FBI, DEA, and U.S. Army all purchased software that enables them to view suspects' photos, emails, listen to and record their conversations, and activate the cameras on their computers, among other things.

While this may seem like old news, the most controversial revelation was the government's purchases of "Remote Control Systems."

The FBI, DEA, and U.S. Army, courtesy of Hacking Team, possess the capability to take control of a suspect's computer screen.


And this:

The FBI is not in good company here. (http://www.wired.com/2015/07/fbi-spent-775k-hacking-teams-spy-tools-since-2011/)

According to several spreadsheets within the hacked archive, which contain a list of Hacking Team's customers, many of the other governments who bought the same software are repressive regimes, such as Sudan and Bahrain.

The documents show that the FBI first purchased the company's "RCS" in 2011. RCS stands for "Remote Control Service," otherwise known as "Galileo," Hacking Team's premiere spy product.

RCS is a simple piece of hacking software that has been used by the Ethiopian regime to target journalists (https://citizenlab.org/2014/02/hacking-team-targeting-ethiopian-journalists/) based in Washington DC. It has also been detected (https://citizenlab.org/2014/02/mapping-hacking-teams-untraceable-spyware/) in an attack on a Moroccan media outlet, and a human rights activist from the United Arab Emirates.

Once a target's computer has been infected, RCS is able to siphon off data, and listen in on communications before they have been encrypted.

According to researchers based at the University of Toronto's Citizen Lab, who have monitored the use of RCS throughout the world, the tool can also "record Skype calls, e-mails, instant messages, and passwords typed into a Web browser."

To top that off, RCS is also capable of switching on a target's web camera and microphone.

The technology is so invasive that even the DEA, known for its violative surveillance policies (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/04/07/dea-bulk-telephone-surveillance-operation/70808616/), had reservations about purchasing it.

According to documents obtained by The Intercept, an internal request to purchase RCS was denied by DEA management in 2011 because it was "too controversial." By 2012, however, the DEA had resolved its concerns, likely spending a similar amount to the $773,226.64 (plus thousands in maintenance fees) the FBI invested in its own set of software.

Hacking Team was so committed to business with these American agencies that it concocted codenames to refer to them. As The Intercept summarizes,

"Hacking Team refers to its U.S. clients by code names. The FBI unit is 'Phoebe'...the DEA is 'Katie,'  and the CIA, which appears to have sampled, but not bought Remote Control System, is 'Marianne.'"

Hacking Team has been sharply criticized for its sale of RCS to oppressive regimes around the world. From Sudan to Bahrain, Hacking Team seeks business opportunities with rulers that target political activists, journalists, and political opponents—putting the American government agencies that employ the same technology—and often have the same objectives— in questionable company.

Aside from RCS, one of the more contentious revelations is the company's hard sell that it can bypass encryption, a capability the FBI has openly desired since phone companies made encryption a default setting last year.

According to one company newsletter, Hacking Team offers "technologies to ACCESS THE DATA...IN CLEARTEXT, BEFORE it gets encrypted by the device and sent to the network and AFTER it is received from the network and decrypted by the device itself. Actually, THIS IS precisely WHAT WE DO."

The FBI did seek warrants to use Hacking Team technology in a handful of cases, but apparently uses a different platform for "critical" investigations. What the FBI really wanted from the Italian firm, according to leaked emails, was "more ability to go after users of Tor, the anonymizing web browser." Such users accounted for 60% of the FBI's use of Hacking Team products.

Regardless of how the technology is used, the FBI has encountered skepticism from lawmakers. Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, asked the director of the FBI for "more specific information about the FBI's current use of spyware," in order for the Senate Judiciary Committee to investigate "serious privacy concerns."

In spite of these legitimate concerns, the technology is permeating other levels of government. Largely because of aggressive marketing by Hacking Team, District Attorney offices around the country are eager to use the software. From San Bernadino to Manhattan, government lawyers have expressed strong interest in using the company's products for investigations, suggesting a dangerous permeation of unconstitutional surveillance into an already decaying justice system.

Whether or not the government agencies who have purchased the software use it extensively or not is, at this point, irrelevant. That such bureaus and government officials have so much as the desire to use it–in some cases, in spite of a clear understanding of its controversial nature—is cause enough for concern.

Meanwhile, Hacking Team has remained ambivalent. Company spokesperson Eric Rabe said, "we do not disclose the names or locations of our clients" and "we cannot comment on the validity of documents purportedly from our company."

More telling of the company's rationalization of perpetuating authoritarianism in the name of profit, however, is a quote from Giancarlo Russo, the company's chief operating officer. In a 2013 email, he wrote,

"If you buy a Ferrari... they can teach you how to drive. They cannot grant you will be the winner of the race...If Beretta sell [sic] you a gun, the most peculiar and sophisticated one, they can teach how to use it. They cannot grant you are going to shoot your target properly on the field."

Editor's note: An earlier version of this article referred to Hacking Team as "Hacking Tools." The error has since been corrected.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 09, 2015, 04:23:35 AM
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DHS Insider: "Preparations Have Been Finalized to Respond to a Crisis of Unprecedented Magnitude Within the United States" (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/dhs-insider-preparations-have-been-finalized-to-respond-to-a-crisis-of-unprecedented-magnitude-within-the-united-states_12272013?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SHTFplan+%28SHTF+Plan+-+When+It+Hits+The+Fan%2C+Don%27t+Say+We+Didn%27t+Warn+You%29)

One of the questions oft asked in alternative news circles is why, if elements within the U.S. government intend to collapse our economy and implement martial, no one within these circles has spoken out. The fact is that scores of people have made it their duty to alert the American people to what's going on behind the scenes. They've told us of the corruption and backroom deals. They've given us the warning signs to look for (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/dhs-insider-warns-its-already-begun-youre-seeing-it-now_06202013), many of which have already come to pass.

They've even made us aware of the government's response (http://www.shtfplan.com/marc-faber/pentagon-military-actively-war-gaming-large-scale-economic-breakdown-and-civil-unrest_11222010) should the worst come to pass. Detractors often dismiss the warnings and insider reports as bogus, often claiming that if the sources are anonymous they can't be legitimate. But do we blame them for taking extreme steps to protect their identities? Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning showed their faces, and now they will spend their lives as targets. Given what happened to these whistle blowers, is it any surprise that others with insider knowledge refuse to speak out in an official capacity?

The following warning comes to us from an anonymous source embedded deep within the Department of Homeland Security who has taken it upon himself to share his knowledge with our audience through the generous contributions of the Hagmann and Hagmann Report (http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/hagmann-hagmann-report-live) via the Northeast Intelligence Network (http://www.homelandsecurityus.com). The insider has taken extraordinary measures to remain anonymous, but given what we know the government is up to and the signs we see all around us, does his desire for anonymity make his claims any less legitimate than if he had included his name?

We've long argued that any manufactured event would be telegraphed to the general public by whistle blowers on the inside. Deny the possibility if you so choose, but this insider, along with others who have shared their information may well be the only warning you'll ever receive. As the Insider notes, most people simply have no idea what's coming, nor do they care to. One morning they'll wake up and all hell will have broken loose.


DHS insider gives final warning
by Douglas J. Hagmann

Under the cover and amid the distraction of the Christmas bustle, I had my last "official" contact with a source inside the Department of Homeland Security known as "Rosebud" in my writings. My source is leaving his position, retiring along with numerous others choosing to leave this bureaucratic monstrosity. For this contact, my source took unprecedented measures to be certain that our contact was far off the radar of prying government eyes and ears. I was stunned at the lengths he employed, and even found myself somewhat annoyed by the inconvenience that his cloak-and-dagger approach caused. It was necessary, according to my source, because all department heads under FEMA and DHS are under orders to identify anyone disclosing any information for termination and potential criminal prosecution.

"DHS is like a prison environment, complete with prison snitches," he said, referring to the search for leaks and leakers. And the warden is obsessed. Ask anyone in DHS. No one trusts anyone else and whatever sources might be left are shutting up. The threats that have been made far exceed anything I've ever seen. Good people are afraid for their lives and the lives of their families. We've all been threatened. They see the writing on the wall and are leaving. It's not a joke and not hype."=

The following is a narrative from my source, prefaced with the instructions to "take it or leave it," and "disregard it at your own peril." He added that it's now up to each American to act on the information themselves or suffer the consequences. "I've resigned myself to the fact that most [Americans] will never be convinced of the reality that is taking place right in front of them."

The plan explained
"According to every internal document I've seen and read, and from the few people I've spoken with who understand what's going on, preparations have been finalized to respond to a crisis of unprecedented magnitude within the United States. The response will include the use of lethal force against U.S. citizens under the instructions of Barack Obama."  But why?

"'It's the economy, stupid,'" he began, paraphrasing a campaign slogan coined by James Carville for Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign.  "Just as I disclosed in our first meeting, the crisis will be rooted in an economic collapse. I told you last year, at a time when gold and silver were setting record highs, one specific indicator that time is very short. It is the final 'smack down' of the metals, gold and silver, that will presage the orchestrated economic collapse that is being planned by the bankers of Wall Street.

Everybody needs to understand that this is a deliberate collapse of the U.S. economy with the oversight of the White House and the full knowledge of the Justice Department.  Everyone seems to be waiting for some big, history making event that will signal the start of the collapse. The fact is that the collapse has already started. It's incremental, like a snowball rolling down a hill. It gets bigger and rolls faster. Well, this snowball is well on its way down the hill."

"I don't mean to sound repetitive, by I can't stress this enough. Contrary to what you hear, we're already in an economic collapse, except that most people haven't a clue. The 'big bang' comes at the end, when people they wake up one morning and can't log in to their bank accounts, can't use their ATM cards, and find out that their private pension funds and other assets have been confiscated," he stated.

"I've seen documentation of multiple scenarios created outside of DHS. Different plans and back-up plans. Also, please understand that I deliberately used the word 'created,' as this is a completely manufactured event.  In the end it won't be presented that way, which is extremely important for everyone to understand. What is coming will be blamed on some unforeseen event out of everyone's control, that few saw coming or thought would actually happen. Then, another event will take place concurrent with this event, or immediately after it, to confuse and compound an already explosive situation." I asked for specifics.

"As I said, there are several scenarios and I don't know them all. I know one calls for a cyber-attack by an external threat, which will then be compounded by something far removed from everyone's own radar. But it's all a ruse, or a pretext. The threat is from within," he stated. "Before people can regain their footing, a second event will be triggered." Again, I asked for specifics.

"I've seen one operational plan that refers to the federal government's response to a significant terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Information at these levels is compartmentalized. I don't have specifics, just plans for the response. The response will be controls and restrictions on travel, business, and every aspect of our lives, especially gun ownership and speech that incites people against the government. I guess some people would call it Martial Law, and they would not be incorrect. But understand that this will be a process deployed in stages. How quickly of a process remains to be seen."

The mechanics explained
As I said, people continue to look for something big to happen first, followed by a militaristic response by the federal government against U.S. citizens. Based on what I've seen, I don't believe it will happen this way, although there is one unthinkable exception. That exception would involve a 'decapitation' of our leadership, but I've seen nothing even remotely suggestive of that. But I've heard and even read articles where that is mentioned. Frankly, though, that's always been a threat. I suppose that if the leadership is deemed useless, or becomes a liability to the larger agenda in some manner,  it could happen. The precedent exists. Let's pray that it's not the case now."

"I don't think anyone except the initiated few know the precise series of events or the exact timing, just a general overview and an equally general time period. I think we're in that period now, as DHS has their planned responses finalized. Also, the metals are important because it's real money, not Ponzi fiat currency. The U.S. has no inventory of gold, so the prices are manipulated down to cause a sell-off of the physical assets. China is on a buying spree of gold, and other countries want their inventory back. The very people causing the prices to drop are the ones who are also buying the metals at fire sale prices. They will emerge extremely wealthy when the prices rise after the U.S. currency becomes wallpaper. A little research will identify who these people and organizations are."

"I'd like to add a bit of perspective that might help explain the events as I described. Do you remember former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announcing that the Pentagon was unable to account for $2.3 trillion in the defense budget? That was on September 10, 2001, the day before the attacks of 9/11. Some suggest that 9/11 was  orchestrated, in part to cover up the missing money, which is ludicrous. The result, however, was that suddenly the accounting issue took a back seat because of the attacks. The result will be the same. That's a perfect example of the mechanics of what we are about to experience. It's going to take years to sort out, and when it's finally sorted out, the damage will have long been done."

"Please note a few final things. The relationship that exists between DHS today and the executive branch is well beyond alarming. DHS and other organizations have become the private army of the Oval Office. The NSA, and I've got contacts there, is taking orders from the Oval Office. The IRS is under the virtual control of the Oval Office in a manner that would make Nixon cower. Even though all roads appear to lead to the Oval Office, they lead through the Oval Office. It's not just Obama, but the men behind him, the people who put him there. The people who put him there are the ones who created him." I asked who created him.

"First, ask yourself why there was such an all out effort to marginalize anyone talking about Obama's eligibility in 2008. Even so-called conservatives pundits fell for the lie that such questions were nothing more than a diversion. They were following a specific drumbeat. That should tell every rational adult that he is a creation of the globalists who have no allegiance to any political party. He is the product of decades of planning, made for this very time in our history. He was selected to oversee the events I just disclosed. Who has that ability? He's a product of our own intelligence agencies working with the globalists. He should be exhibit 'A' to illustrate the need to enforce the Logan Act. Need I say more?"

As often said by another of my sources, the U.S. is a captured operation. The lie is bigger than most people realize or are willing to confront. That is, until there is no other option. By then, it might be too late.

This report was originally published by Douglass J. Hagmann at The Northeast Intelligence Network. You can follow Doug's nightly broadcasts at the Hagmann and Hagmann Report.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: rdunk on August 09, 2015, 04:42:58 AM
Of course, photos can be doctored, but......................if this is true........????

Jade Helm Update! Tulsa, OK- Chinese Dong Feng 21 C Medium Range Missiles! WHY?

From the brief article - "For those of you who don't understand what you are looking at, I can confirm that that is a Chinese Dong Feng 21C medium range missile with TEL (range est. 1,100 mi.) on the left, and on the right, 3 type 98 tanks. Only Obama and the Chinese know what else is waiting inside the Walmart /Chinese staging area".

http://consciouslyenlightened.com/jade-helm-update-tulsa-ok-chinese-dong-feng-21-c-medium-range-missiles-why2/

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 09, 2015, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: rdunk on August 09, 2015, 04:42:58 AM
Of course, photos can be doctored, but......................if this is true........????
The unresized image looks fake, as the tanks and missile launcher appear to have a different sharpness,
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so I went looking for other sources, and found this page (https://ablestmage.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/is-the-photo-of-tanks-and-chinese-launcher-at-wal-mart-real-no-heres-why/), that has an image of the Facebook page of the person that, apparently, published the photo. In that Facebook image it's more noticeable that the tanks and missile launcher were added.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/11813410_10203175977360260_8238406790974506342_n.jpg)

That page also shows what looks like the tank and launcher images that were pasted on the Walmart photo.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: rdunk on August 09, 2015, 04:56:29 PM
armap, obviously, the photo may be/is a fake, but there is a major difference in the missile carrier in the OP photo, and the one in the photo of your posted link, and also with the added missile carriers included in the rebuttal link. The "actual/real" pic of the missile carrier has 5 axles, while in the Walmart OP photo, it has only 4, as do all of the "added ones". :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 09, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
You're right, rdunk, I didn't notice that. :)

But now that I looked closer into it I think we can see part of the fifth wheel just after the fourth wheel on the image posted on Facebook.

Anyway, the original Facebook image looks terribly fake. :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on August 09, 2015, 05:37:02 PM
Looks photoshopped to me....
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 09, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Greetings spacemaverick:

The OP foto was obviously taken earlier in the day before the others joined the party.
Nothing to see here...
Move along...

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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 16, 2015, 02:01:57 AM
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The Next Generation of Surveillance: "Everything That Is A Moving Object Is Being Automatically Tracked" (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-next-generation-of-surveillance-it-is-important-for-the-public-to-know-that-some-of-these-capabilities-exist_02132013)

Mac Slavo
February 13th, 2013
SHTFplan.com

The following video highlights one of the scariest surveillance technologies you've ever seen.

With Congress having recently authorized 30,000 drones to patrol America's skies (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/america-the-land-of-the-police-state-30000-drones-will-be-watching-you_022012) by 2015, this technology will soon become available to law enforcement officials all over the country.

It's creator, Yiannis Antoniades, says that it's the next generation of surveillance and as you'll see, it's capabilities are so advanced that it can actively scan an area encompassing 15 square miles – about the area of a medium sized city – from an altitude of 20,000 feet.

Moreover, it tracks every single moving object in its field of view, streaming the high definition video back to monitoring stations on the ground.

With 1.8 billion pixels it is the world's highest resolution camera. ARGUS fits inside the belly of an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle.
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Also known as Wide Area Persistent Stare, Argus is the equivalent of having up to 100 Predators look at an area the size of a medium-sized city at once.
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Everything that is a moving object is being automatically tracked. You can see individuals crossing the street. You can see individuals walking in parking lots. There's actually enough resolution to be able to see people waving their arms or what kind of clothes they wear.

You can pick the location of where you produce these images anywhere in the entire field of view.
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Antoniades can open up to sixty-five windows at once and see objects as small as six inches on the ground.
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ARGUS streams live to the ground and also stores everything. One million terabytes of video per day.


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Under Darpa's Vulture program, Boeing's SolarEagle was planned to fly for a year. Credit: Boeing


ARGUS may be mounted on an armed UAV, a long range platform, or a developmental craft called the Solar Eagle (http://aviationweek.com/technology/facebook-s-uav-flies-builds-developments-solar-power) that may some day stay aloft for years at a time.
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We're moving towards an increasingly electronic society where our movements are going to be tracked.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA

1.8 gigapixel ARGUS-IS. World's highest resolution video surveillance platform by DARPA - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA)


If you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.   :P

But, with hundreds of thousands of laws on the books and definitions for terrorist activity expanding to everything from minting your own silver coin (http://www.shtfplan.com/precious-metals/u-s-secret-service-bans-sale-of-silver-and-gold-liberty-dollars-on-ebay_12172012) to bringing a toy bubble gun to school (http://www.infowars.com/kindergartner-suspended-for-bubble-gun-terrorism/), just about everyone is a terrorist (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/do-you-qualify-as-a-domestic-terrorist_04062011) or criminal in America today.

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Quote"Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism," U.S. Attorney Tompkins said in announcing the verdict.

"While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country," she added. "We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government."


Now, consider this technology in the context of extra-judicial drone strikes (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/obamas-expanding-kill-list_022013) initiated by artificial intelligence assessment parameters that automatically determine if you are a threat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJp80rlNbO0) or not, and you can see how dangerous drones armed with these imaging systems will become.

How long before these military grade assault weapons of mass destruction are used on American citizens right here at home?


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Executive Order: "Obama and His Fellow Communists Can Seize Any Resource, Property, or Person At Any Time For Any Reason" (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/executive-order-obama-and-his-fellow-communists-can-seize-any-resource-property-or-person-at-any-time-for-any-reason_08062015)

An Obama Executive Order Legalizes Slave Labor In America
By Dave Hodges

Following yesterday's article dealing with how Obama is positioning to control all food through nationalizing the resource (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/08/02/obama-nationalizes-all-food-and-this-will-force-millions-of-americans-into-fema-camps/), the trolls have been out in force. And are they ever getting desperate!

The globalist minions, known in part as the Obama administration, do not want the public reading about the NDAA, Executive Order 13603 (EO) and the CIA's funding of ISIS. As Snopes has wrongly stated, "there is nothing to worry about with regard to EO 13603 and it represents nothing new."

Snopes? Really? Why don't the believers of the fiction known as Snopes just cite The Wiggles instead? They would have more credibility when it comes to reporting on the actions and stated intentions of globalists.


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Lying In the Bushes
Obama's EO 13603 has been lying dormant for nearly three years.

Some have said that if Obama was going to act on his EO, why would he have not done it by now? The answer is so painfully obvious, Obama did not have the support he needed to act against the very people that he is Constitutionally sworn to protect.

Are we really supposed to believe that Obama would codify, through administrative fiat, on his own volition, the governmental blueprint to seize every asset in the country, including you, if he was not going to use this self-appointed authority at some point in time?

Perhaps he is simply laying the groundwork for the coming dark days of a Hillary Presidency or whomever will be the next globalist minion President.

The fact remains that during the tenure of Obama, the NDAA was passed which can snatch you off of the street with no due process. So, when we consider the context of EO 13603, we should all be nervous.

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Obama Is Re-Introducing Slavery to America
According to EO 13603 (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness), the President, or the head of any federal agency that he shall designate, can conscript "persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation," in both "peacetime and times of national emergency."

I can hear the Obama supporters now as they will write to me and say,"Obama would never do that, you are drinking from the Kool-Aid, and just go read Snopes, everything will be OK"

Well, here it is, you can read it for yourself.

Sec. 502.  Consultants.  The head of each agency otherwise delegated functions under this order is delegated the authority of the President under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), (c), to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations.  The authority delegated by this section may not be re-delegated.

This means that Obama, and his fellow communists, can seize any resource, property, or person at any time for any reason, including being able to force that person to perform assigned labor without being paid.

There is only ONE word for forced, "uncompensated employment". That would is slavery.

Congratulations President Obama, you have effectively repealed the 13th Amendment to the Constitution.

Section 601 of the act specifies, in part, how far the government can go in terms of making you their slave.

Sec. 601. Secretary of Labor.
(a) The Secretary of Labor, in coordination with the Secretary of Defense and the heads of other agencies, as deemed appropriate by the Secretary of Labor, shall:

(1) collect and maintain data necessary to make a continuing appraisal of the Nation's workforce needs for purposes of national defense;

(2) upon request by the Director of Selective Service, and in coordination with the Secretary of Defense, assist the Director of Selective Service in development of policies regulating the induction and deferment of persons for duty in the armed services;

(3) upon request from the head of an agency with authority under this order, consult with that agency with respect to: (i) the effect of contemplated actions on labor demand and utilization; (ii) the relation of labor demand to materials and facilities requirements; and (iii) such other matters as will assist in making the exercise of priority and allocations functions consistent with effective utilization and distribution of labor;

(4) upon request from the head of an agency with authority under this order: (i) formulate plans, programs, and policies for meeting the labor requirements of actions to be taken for national defense purposes; and (ii) estimate training needs to help address national defense requirements and promote necessary and appropriate training programs


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If the above section was merely going to be a military draft, then the Secretary of Labor would not have to be involved. However, as you will note the "Secretary of Labor, in coordination with the Secretary of Defense and heads of other agencies, as deemed appropriate by the Secretary of Labor, shall... assist in the development of policies regulating the induction and deferment of persons for duty in the armed services;... formulate plans, programs, and policies for meeting the labor requirements of actions to be taken for national defense purposes; and (ii) estimate training needs to help address national defense requirements and promote necessary and appropriate training programs...".

Refer back to section 502 of sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), ©; these are the people that the Secretary of the Labor will conscript in order "to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations".

This, my fellow Americans, is a civilian conscription and this is why the Secretary of Labor is in charge instead of the head of the Selective Service! Under these provisions, the government believes that they can send you anywhere, to work on anything of their choosing.


How Will DHS Conduct Mass Roundups of American Citizens?
Thanks to the NDAA and EO 13603, there are now three distinct ways to conduct mass roundups of citizens and place them in detention camps.

Use of the Children As Bait to Lure In the Parents


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Here are children being separated from the authority of their parents as well as  the supervision of school officials. FEMA had no right to abduct these children. Again, it is all part of the conditioning process. According to the globalists, your children do not belong to you. Your body does not belong to you. Everything belongs to the state.

Where will they take the children? Will you get them back and when? Or, will they be used as bait?

In September of 2011, DHS and FEMA forcibly removed children from elementary schools, without properly notifying their parents, (i.e. Operation Mountain Guardian (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/07/the-nfls-role-in-the-coming-martial-law/)) and transported them to an NFL stadium.

In Denver, in a massive 2011 drill, DHS went so far as to hire "mock" parents to beg officials at the stadium to release their children in an effort to desensitize the guards to future parents pleas. It was obvious to most of us that children would be used to pull in their parents to a detention facility.

Aaron Dykes, then reporting for Infowars covered Operation Mountain Guardian in some depth and he even interviewed one of the actresses hired to play a distress parent trying to get their child back from the DHS abduction of Denver children that had taken place that September day in 2011. That video can viewed by visiting this article (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/22/the-nfls-role-in-the-coming-fema-camp-incarcerations/):


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Once the parents show up to claim their children, they can be easily inventoried to see if they meet the requirements for "people with outstanding abilities"...that will work as consultant (i.e. unpaid slave labor). This same drill was repeated at Giants Stadium in New York shortly following the Denver drill.

Use of the Hessians to Mass Arrest Americans
As I have alluded to before, it is likely that many Americans, in a time of martial law, will be forcibly removed from their homes, or snatched off the street without due process, through the NDAA (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1960/text), which was recently renewed by Congress.

I have painstakingly detailed, with the publication of eyewitness accounts (e.g. Dr. Susan Helman describing her experiences with Russians in Gatlinburg, TN. on my radio show and in print).

I have previously cited bilateral agreements (http://www.state.gov/p/eur/ci/rs/usrussiabilat/c37332.htm) between DHS/FEMA and Russian troops to train for a "disaster" on American soil (i.e. false flag attack and martial law), the participation of Russians and Chinese in Grid EX II and the Russian and Chinese future participation in the highly secure RIMPAC War Games, through emails, videos and pictures the presence of foreign troops from reporters such as Sherrie Wilcox (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/19/more-proof-that-russian-and-chinese-troops-have-breached-the-territorial-integrity-of-the-united-states/).

I have presented firsthand accounts of ex-CIA agents like the late Bill Pawelec, former NSA operative, Vance Davis and the late NSA agent AC Griffith (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/05/20/how-to-avoid-capture-if-you-are-on-the-jade-helm-red-list/), related to the same topic, on my radio show and still there are those who will bury their heads in the sand and pretend that none of the evidence exists.

To those people, who still doubt the presence of foreign troops on American soil, I would ask that you read the articles on my website dating back to its inception in September of 2012. One estimate places the number of articles in which I have cited and documented the presence of foreign troops on American soil at 27 times in a period of 24 months. Spend some time utilizing the search engine of The Common Sense Show investigating the veracity of these claims.

I do realize that some people could be carried out of their house by the Russians, Chinese and Canadians soldiers and they and Snopes still would deny their existence. Of course these same people would deny the same happening to Americans of Japanese extraction in 1942 by our own government.

The foreign troops are here and are training, along with a well-armed Jade Helm forces as well. Whether it is Jade Helm 15 or Jade Helm 18, some drill of this type will be used execute the incarceration of American citizens for slave labor purposes.


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Jade Helm is about putting the nation under the control of the globalists and the extraction of "resources" as needed.


In these first two scenarios, the "authorities" will likely assess each person's threat, or value, to the state and act accordingly because each and every martial law occupation force will seek to quickly remove any opposition and take over the over the resources (i.e. human capital).

Certainly, one way that the occupation forces will get Americans to come to the camps will be to forcibly take them there.

However, even with the use of Chinese, Russian, Canadian troops, et al., which will be brought in to roundup and subjugate Americans, there will not be enough troops to effectively garrison a country with 300 million handguns. Conventional wisdom states that it takes about one soldier for every 50 citizens to effectively garrison a country.

However, when you mix in 300 million handguns in civilian hands, the number of occupation troops that will be needed will rise exponentially.

Therefore, the occupation troops will need assistance in getting Americans to willingly report to the camps (e.g. sports facilities, schools, large churches and malls). And that assistance will likely come in the form of food and that was reported on in yesterday's article.

Conclusion
If you are not repulsed and greatly angered by EO 13603, then you might have been absent the day that your high school covered the Constitution. To the minions who are forsaking their Constitutional oath to protect and defend America from all enemies both foreign and domestic, you may wish look in a history book and discover the fate of the Brown Shirts which brought Hitler to power.


If we do not have your attention by now, check this (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/05/20/how-to-avoid-capture-if-you-are-on-the-jade-helm-red-list/) out:

QuoteAll parties, connected to your getaway, have agreed to not have in their possession cell phones. Not only can they be tracked, they can be used to listen to your conversations even when the battery has been taken out of the phone. This backdoor was a NSA mandate dating back to the 1990's, demanded that cell phone manufacturers build in backdoors so that the device could be used to spy upon high value targets.

(Dave Hodges is an award winning psychology, statistics and research professor, a college basketball coach, a mental health counselor, a political activist and writer who has published dozens of editorials and articles in several publications such as Freedom Phoenix, News With Views, and The Arizona Republic.

The Common Sense Show (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com) features a wide variety of important topics that range from the loss of constitutional liberties, to the subsequent implementation of a police state under world governance, to exploring the limits of human potential. The primary purpose of The Common Sense Show is to provide Americans with the tools necessary to reclaim both our individual and national sovereignty.)


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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 16, 2015, 02:54:47 AM
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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 16, 2015, 12:19:20 PM
Any real news about Jade Helm?

The fact that we see only opinions posted means that there aren't any, at least any that supports the conspiracy angle.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 16, 2015, 05:25:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2c9PMV3ZJg

New world order quotes from different world leaders 2015 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2c9PMV3ZJg)

Published on Apr 30, 2015
George H. W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, Joe Biden, Micheil Saakasjvili, Bill Clinton, Strobe Talbot, Richard Nixon, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Ricardo Lagos, Barack Obama, 02:46 ?, Al Gore, Stephen Harper, John Kerry, David Gergen, Paul Martin, 04:23 ?, David Rockefellar, George Soros, Jacob Rothschild.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jglHg7ZRrlc

Here's What Happens Sept 2015 That WILL Change Our Lives FOREVER! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jglHg7ZRrlc)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 16, 2015, 08:34:19 PM
Greetings:

As we were tasked with keeping track of what's up with JADE HELM-15, we include this interesting scenario from Dave Hodges three months ago:



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How to Avoid Capture If You Are On the Jade Helm Red List | Dave Hodges – The Common Sense Show (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2015/05/20/how-to-avoid-capture-if-you-are-on-the-jade-helm-red-list/)

It is the latter days of summer and there's not much excitement.

However, one day stands out like no other. On that fateful day, you awaken to the news that the nation's banks are "temporarily closed" because some terrorist group launched a cyber attack upon all of the major banks the night before. You instantly recognize the lie for what it is.

You have been preparing for this moment for a long time and you recognize this event for the false flag event that it is. You announce to your family it is time to go. You grab your "bug out bag" and you drive 20 miles in the opposite direction from your intended destination as you enter an underground parking garage.

There you are met by a trusted source. You transfer your bug out bags to their vehicle and leave your vehicle behind. Why did you have to drive to an underground structure? A satellite can be backtracked on your residence. It will detect your vehicle and the number of occupants leaving your garage and you can be followed. Driving in the opposite direction of your intended destination may confuse any search protocol which will be based upon your known associates based on the DHS FAST program which is described below.

Entering an underground structure will make it difficult to track you. The number of vehicles who have entered the structure are numerous and the NSA computers will have trouble matching you to a known associate if you have not had cell phone communication with your intended getaway ally. Your cell phone is now your enemy.

Most of us know about the Stingray (http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-hi-tech-police-surveillance-the-stingray-cell-phone-spying-device/5331165) program designed to track people as it is now available to local law enforcement. The NSA has much better tracking technology.


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StingRay cell phone spying device (US Patent photo)


The people that you will be staying with, must be "friends of friends" because if you have had communication with these people, the NSA computers will predict who you will hide out with and you will end reliving the modern day nightmare of the Diary of Anne Frank (http://www.annefrank.org/en/Anne-Frank/The-diary-of-Anne-Frank/).

Remember, the NSA super-computers match known associates by email, cell phone and landline communications.

If you have ever had a cell phone conversation or your cell phone has come within 10 meters of a person, that has been logged as a known associate.

You have been careful to leave ALL electronic devices behind. Before his death, the late A.C. Griffith, former NSA specialist, appeared on The Common Sense Show several times and discussed much of the tracking technology that was available to the NSA as of five years ago.

As you are driving to your rendezvous point, the radio broadcasters are telling you that all is well and that the banking chaos will be straightened out in a few days. However, you know the truth, the economy has collapsed and it is not coming back. And you also know that in the midst of the ensuing chaos, the Red List extractions which will be conducted by Jade Helm personnel, are imminent. They could take place in a day, a week or, on the outside, a month.

Waiting for you in the underground parking garage is a friend of a friend. You have made arrangements to stay with this friend of a friend because it is not likely that you can be tracked to their home. As your getaway vehicle departs the underground structure, nobody will be the wiser.


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Cell Phone Precautions

All parties, connected to your getaway, have agreed to not have in their possession cell phones. Not only can they be tracked, they can be used to listen to your conversations even when the battery has been taken out of the phone.

This backdoor was a NSA mandate dating back to the 1990's, demanded that cell phone manufacturers build in backdoors so that the device could be used to spy upon high value targets. As you are making your get away, it might be best to lie down as you enter the new vehicle. Why? Have you ever seen a photo radar photograph? Your approximate location can be tracked by traffic cameras.

What about disposable cell phones?

If you are in flight to evade capture, any cell phone in your possession is a risk. The NSA has voice print records on all Americans who have ever used an electronic device. The voice print is as unique and as identifiable as a finger print.

If you speak within ear shot of the phone, your voice print can be instantly matched to the super-computers of the NSA and your location can be immediately pinpointed. Therefore, you new host family can never have a cell phone, or a landline phone within ear shot of you. The same is true for a computer as they are routinely listened to even in the off position.

Your electronic devices are the greatest threat to the continued freedom for you and your family. The good news is that you will not have to remain in hiding for very long. Most of my sources believe that "Red Listed" individuals will remain high priority for about 30 days.

Why 30 days?


Phase Two: The Blue List

Under the cover of the chaos of an economic collapse, the middle of the night Red List extractions will take place. During this time cell phone and landline communications will be cut because the powers that be do not want potential resistance leaders to be able to warn each other. However, these extractions will not go unnoticed so Phase One will be immediately followed by Phase Two (Blue List enforcement) which will consist of targeting a second set of potential dissidents of lesser value. These will often include the modern day "Brown Shirts".

It is likely at this point, that some in the military will question their mission and switch sides. Many in the militia movement will realize that the day of confrontations is at hand. Depending on how many soldiers and their units switch sides, we could see a civil war breakout at this point. Regardless of the depth of the conflict, once the shooting has started, most Red and Blue List people will lose their importance to the authorities. In other words, if you guess correctly on the trigger event for the extractions, you may only to have to hide out for a maximum of about 30 days.

Bugging Out to the Country

Bugging out to the country carries more risks than benefits unless you can get out of the country. As a matter of course, I do not recommend leaving the city because there are just too many ways to get caught. It is of paramount importance to realize that there are a plethora of license plate readers in operation. If you do make a run for the border, do not use your own car.

The healthy side of your paranoia is about to emerge as we consider the fact that there is a sponsored DHS program known as FAST, which is a DHS tested program and has been described as a "precrime" program. FAST will gather upon complex statistical algorithms that will compile data from multiple databases and will subsequently "predict" future criminal or terrorist acts.

The FAST system can track 36 million faces in one second.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiFx39WHYlI

Facial Recognition Surveillance System Searches 36 Million Faces In One Second - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiFx39WHYlI)


The "precrime" data will be gathered" through cybersurveillance and stealth data monitoring of ordinary citizens. The FAST (http://gizmodo.com/5895831/scary-fast-surveillance-system-scans-36-million-faces-a-second) program purports to assess whether an individual might pose a "precrime" threat through the capture of a range of data, including biometric data.


In other words, FAST accuses non-convicted individuals as being a security threat risk of becoming future criminals and terrorists through data analysis. No charges, no police interviews, the system is designed to become "judge, jury and executioner".


Under the Future Attribute Screening Technology (FAST), criminal cues are captured through the following types of biometric data including body and eye movements, eye blink rate and pupil variation, body heat changes, and breathing patterns. Various linguistic cues include the analysis of voice pitch changes, alterations in voice rhythm patterns, and changes in intonations of speech.

Documents released by DHS clearly show that individuals could be arrested and face serious consequences based upon statistical algorithms and predictive analytical assessments.

Most importantly, the FAST program has the ability to predict where you would likely run to in times of trying to evade capture. This program is one of the main reasons that the massive spying was undertaken because the program has the unique ability to predict your next move. I am very nervous because this technology is a part of Jade Helm and their "extraction drills".

FirstNet

Unfortunately, the madness does not end with the FAST system. There is a new DHS funded multi-billion dollar spy tool and it is called FirstNet (http://www.firstnet.gov). This is a citizen information gathering device like no other. A company called New World Systems (https://www.newworldsystems.com/Public-Safety/) is in charge of implementing this system.

The Radio Access Network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_access_network) (RAN), which is part of this elaborate network, consists of the radio base station infrastructure that connects to user devices including cell towers and mobile hotspots embedded in vehicles which connects to the satellite network or other types of wireless infrastructure.

This is a "search and destroy system" as FirstNet is designed to hunt you down in remote areas. The extraction component of Jade Helm in rural Texas communities, is noteworthy when these two systems are considered with regard to the potential of these two systems to abuse American citizens. Firstnet is going operationally live just prior to the Jade Helm announced kick off of July 15th.

This system is also about the disguised takeover of the Internet and all cell phone communications under the possible false premise of an emergency. Does the recent implementation of Net neutrality by the FCC make a little more sense now? When we go into martial law, communications will be suspended so potential dissidents cannot warn one another and you have just learned how they plan to accomplish this communications blackout.

"In a classic tyranny, the educators are among the first to be exterminated." America will be no different. Educators transmit culture to the young and the globalists are intending on rewriting history. Any non-compliant clergy will be next and for the same reasons.

The rest of the population will be assigned a threat matrix score by the NSA. The Verizon data dump to the feds is just the tip of the iceberg. For example, because of cell phone tracking, if you have ever met with a person of concern (e.g. an alternative media figure), your score goes up because your two cell phones came into close proximity. And the longer you meet with this person, the more points are awarded to your Threat Matrix Score.

Keep in mind the Threat Matrix Score is like golf. The goal is to have a low score, that is if you want to live.

The person's score will also rise if they visit the wrong websites, belong to the Libertarian party, own a gun, vote for third party candidates and are a veteran.

Demographic maps have already been created in which red dots appear on a data screen by address. The red dots represent people who have received a high score and DHS swat teams will sweep pre-designated areas.

The DHS swat teams along with their 2.2 billion rounds of ammunition and 2700 armored personnel carriers will be the vanguard force behind this terrible tyranny..."


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Firstnet boasts a map along with the embedded graphics from the FirstNet website. From this, it is easy to conclude that they have developed the technology to track you and find you should you be a fugitive from their own special brand of justice. RAN has the ability to track you anywhere on the planet. Soon, there will be nowhere for people with high threat matrix scores to run and hide without being found by this system. These two technologies are a part of Jade Helm 15 and real time data will be available to Special Operations Forces as they carry out their missions.


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Facial Recognition Software

The NGI Interstate Photo System Facial Recognition Pilot (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fingerprints_biometrics/ngi) (IPSFRP) Project is a collaborative effort between the FBI and pilot agencies to identify user needs and develop a useful investigative tool for the law enforcement community through the recognition of a fugitive through facial recognition.

The Interstate Photo System provides a search of a limited population of criminal/wanted persons mug shots using a submitted probe image. I am told that these systems are now embedded in the traffic cam system in use across the country.

Once a facial recognition has been established a satellite can be used to track the individual's every movement until capture can be accomplished. Hence, keep your head down while traveling in your getaway vehicle.

Conclusion

There are many more programs that can be used to track fugitives than what is listed here. The intention of this article is to get you to think about your own flight to safety should you think the need will someday present itself.

I would also add that when you arrive at your host family's residence, be discreet, don't go outside and let your presence be known. Why? Because in the early days following the extractions, a "See something, Say something programs" will likely emerge. The authorities will likely advertise that a reward payment will be made to people in exchange for useful information related to suspicious activities.

As we move closer to July 15, more operational details will emerge. However, I have seen enough to know that Jade Helm 15 is very draconian and should serve as a threat to every American. My thanks to former NSA agent, Vance Davis (http://www.philipcoppens.com/gulfbreeze6.html), former CIA agent, the late Bill Pawelec (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26336-William-Pawelec-s-widow-reveals-national-security-secrets) (the husband of my present News Director, Annie DeRiso) and finally I want to thank former NSA agent, A.C. Griffith (https://panoffolin.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/a-c-griffith-the-man-who-broke-the-chemtrail-story-dead-at-72-a-tribute-to-a-fallen-hero/) for greatly adding to my awareness of NSA fugitive tracking capabilities.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 19, 2015, 02:28:52 AM
A few items that may be of interest:


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Published (http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/04/10/the-window-to-resist-tyranny-is-closing-due-to-the-new-super-weapons/) April 10, 2014
By TLB Contributor Dave Hodges.

Many talk about the fact that Americans have an estimated 300 million privately owned hand guns as the reason why no foreign power, or even our government, can subjugate the people. I am compelled to disagree. If our government ever became abusive enough that the people felt the need to rebel, there is a new generation of super weapons being developed which would doom any rebellion.

Although Yamamoto once refused to invade the United States following his attack upon Pearl Harbor because there would be "an American with a gun behind every blade of grass", these super weapons would have changed his mind, thus, making America vulnerable to tyrants and foreign invaders. As a result, the window to resist martial law occupation and even an invasion is quickly closing.

Who will ever forget the well-publicized DHS paper targets, depicting the following targets, as a reminder as to who DHS feels is the real enemy.

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Every Move You Make, We'll Be Stalking You

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LACOSTE the "All seeing eye"

In a nowhere to run and nowhere to hide scenario, DARPA, has developed technology which allows the military to spy on entire cities with its Large Area Coverage Optical Search-while-Track and Engage (LACOSTE) (http://www.spacewar.com/reports/QinetiQ_Awarded_DARPA_Contract_For_New_Sensor_System_999.html). LACOSTE is a program of imaging technology that will allow for "single sensor, day or night, ongoing tactical surveillance of all moving vehicles in an urban area."

LACOSTE will eventually be able to identify individual humans in the same manner with the next generation of facial recognition software. This surveillance system is being integrated into department store video surveillance (http://trilliantinc.com/solutions/distribution/substation-video-monitoring), the street light turned spy Intellistreets (http://www.livescience.com/41106-big-brother-streetlights-intellistreets.html) as well as all traffic cameras.

If the globalists want to find you, you better have a "cloaking" device to hide behind. More importantly, most guerrilla activities are designed to occur under the cover of darkness.

The cover of darkness is no longer an ally for future American rebels.


Meet the New Boss

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April 2014 | Page 11 of 15 | The Liberty Beacon (http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/04/page/11/)

Many gun owners mistakenly believe that they are going to be able to carry out acts of guerrilla warfare and/or terrorism against an illegitimate government as they begin to lock-down the country under a martial law takeover.

Thwarting most ideas of a successful revolutionary effort can be found in the Battlefield Optical Surveillance System (BOSS) (http://www.wired.com/2007/04/darpa_countersn/),which is a device that can be mounted on a truck that scans and deciphers the landscape with lasers and sensors.

When it sees the almost imperceptible glint of a rifle scope, or more amazingly it also recognizes you through your retinas as the detection device "paints" you with a laser beam, just prior to your demise.


Boomerang

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And even in the unlikely event that you can slip into firing range of your intended target, the Boomerang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang_(countermeasure)) countermeasure system uses an array of microphones which will be able to instantly decipher the speed and direction of your shot, based on the muzzle report and the shock wave of the bullet as it zips past.


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"Boomerang 3" being used by British forces in Afghanistan

Boomerang uses a bundle of seven microphones, each facing a different direction, mounted on top of an 18-inch pole.
Immediately, Boomerang knows where the shot came from, and even what kind of weapon was utilized. This system will reduce all future sniper missions to a Kamikaze endeavor.

Therefore, it is a safe bet that prior to moving globalist controlled forces into an area to conduct a roundup, BOSS and Boomerang will be employed to detect and possible resistance and eliminate the resistance by calling in a drone strike.

"When a bullet flies by, creating a shock wave, each microphone picks up the sound at a slightly different time. Those tiny differences allow the system to calculate where the shooter is." (Boomerang also listens for the blast from the gun's muzzle, which reaches the system just after the bullet's faster-than-sound flight.)

Inside the Humvee, a recorded voice buzzes through a dashboard speaker, announcing the shooter's position — "Shot 10 o'clock! Shot 10 o'clock!" — and an analog clocklike display indicates the direction. Other information, like the shooter's G.P.S. coordinates, range and elevation, are also provided.

"We're now accurate way beyond 500 meters," says Dave Schmitt, Boomerang's program manager at BBN Technologies in Cambridge, Mass."


Nowhere to Run, Nowhere to Hide

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If a drone is unavailable the XM-25 (http://www.cracked.com/article_18473_6-new-weapons-that-you-literally-cannot-hide-from.html) is a "smart" grenade launcher. The weapon is portable and can be carried to the battlefield by a soldier, or even better, a DARPA killer robot who has orders to search and destroy a specific target which will be identified by facial recognition.

Once you are located, the X-25 possess a laser range-finder built in to the weapon that can detect the distance to the wall or trench that you're hiding behind and then blow you and your cover to oblivion.

"Screw the unprepared roving gangsters, and screw the friggin' soldiers... we'll shelter in place in our 'fortified' home and nobody will know that we're here - if we are cautious and play it right."
Joe Prepper, Anytown, USA

OOPS!

"We see You..."



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The Range-R is a military-grade device that can spot people through solid walls. [Image Source: CyTerra]

L-3 Communications is a military contractor, offering combat-grade solutions to the U.S. Armed Forces in their conflict overseas.  But as the increasingly militarized American police state turns its focus homeward (http://www.dailytech.com/EFF+Police+May+Use+Armed+Drones+to+Watch+You+Citizen+Help+Needed/article24910.htm), L-3 is looking to offer up these military grade solutions as tools for policing the homefront.

Among the military grade solutions offered is the Range-R (http://www.cyterra.com/products/ranger.htm) radar system, produced by L-3 subsidiary CyTerra.  The device debuted a little over two years ago, and vaguely resembles a stud finder at first glance.  But according to experts, this is no ordinary tool.

The Range-R is capable of beaming radio waves through most thin brick or concrete walls.

The signals bounce off of solid objects -- including people.  When that object moves, the waves are compressed or expanded -- a phenomena known as the Doppler effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect).

By carefully watching the reflections for Doppler shifts, the finely tuned sensor can detect people from up to 50 feet away.

The sensor is so sensitive that it can even detect stationary targets' slightest motions from breathing.

See more at: Warrantless Police Home Invasion by Radar (http://www.dailytech.com/Police+are+Using+New+Handheld+Radar+Sensors+to+Peer+Into+Houses+wout+Warrant/article37088.htm#sthash.uylXp7b3.dpuf)



Here's the military response to all those RPG's rumored to be in the hands of the ISIS cells right here in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_yz_ONZltA

DARPA's Iron Curtain Active Protection System

Uploaded on Dec 1, 2009
Edited DARPA video showing 2008 tests of the Artis-developed Iron Curtain anti-RPG active protection system for light tactical vehicles - here an HMMWV. DARPA in November 2009 awarded Mustang Technologies a contract to integrate Iron Curtain with its Crosshairs counter-shooter system for tests on an MRAP.

Cued by the corner-mounted Crosshairs' radar, an optical sensor classifies the incoming threat and selects the aim-point. When the RPG is just inches from the vehicle, the roof-mounted countermeasure fires straight down, deflagrating the warhead before it can detonate.

DARPA calls it the Iron Curtain, and it uses an invisible pulse to detonate shells before they can hit the vehicle.

Our only question is how long until they have a beam that just makes the enemy's own rocket explode right in his face?

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The Second American Revolution's potential 'Red Dawn' scenario just got a bit more technical.


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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 19, 2015, 02:43:34 AM
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Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 25, 2015, 04:02:54 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daxuBBMRl8g

Judge JEANINE PIRRO: "Lights Out: The Danger to US Power Grid" - The EMP Threat

Published on Feb 23, 2014

Judge Jeanine Pirro investigates the danger posed to Americans' lives, property, and way of life if an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack, a solar flare, or a terrorist attack brings down the US power grid.

In this special program, Jeanine Pirro interviews Frank Gaffney, former CIA Director James Woolsey, the Wall Street Journal's Rebecca Smith, former SEAL Christopher Heben, Andrea Boland, Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD), former Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham and other experts on the threat, the consequences, and the need to secure the grid from attacks and shutdown.

Homeland Security Management Institute of Long Island University - Riverhead: www.liu.edu/Homeland


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn6OVLK0MBI

EMP Bomb Threat Scenari

Published on May 12, 2013
Electromagnetic Pulse Bomb - EMP Weapon

The fact that an electromagnetic pulse is produced by a nuclear explosion has been known since the earliest days of nuclear weapons testing. The magnitude of the EMP and the significance of its effects, however, were not realized for some time.

During the first United States nuclear test on 16 July 1945, electronic equipment was shielded due to Enrico Fermi's expectation of an electromagnetic pulse from the detonation. The official technical information for that first nuclear test states, "All signal lines were completely shielded, in many cases doubly shielded."

In spite of this many records were lost because of spurious pickup at the time of the explosion that paralyzed the recording equipment. During British nuclear testing in 1952--1953 there were instrumentation failures that were attributed to "radioflash", which was then the British term for EMP.

The high-altitude nuclear tests of 1962 increased the awareness of EMP beyond the original small population of nuclear weapons scientists and engineers. The larger scientific community became aware of the significance of the EMP problem after a series of three articles were published about nuclear electromagnetic pulse in 1981 by William J. Broad in the weekly publication "Science".


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Are You Prepared For EMP?

Published on Nov 14, 2012
Arthur T. Bradley, Ph.D., a National Aeronautics and Space Administration engineer stationed at Langley Research Center, was jolted by the 9-11 attacks and realized there was not one complete handbook on the market for disaster preparedness, so he went about on his own to produce the definitive guide.

In Dr. Bradley's Disaster Preparedness for EMP Attacks and Solar Storms, he introduces the reader to electromagnetic pulse (EMP), both the solar and nuclear versions, and provides step-by-step instructions on how to survive, even if the lights stay out for several years.

Dr. Bradley discusses the realities of EMP in this lively interview (20:50).

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Practical Disaster Preparedness for the Family: EMP & Solar (http://disasterpreparer.com/empsolar-storms/)

What would happen if terrorists detonated a nuclear device high above the United States?

What about if the Sun emitted a large coronal mass ejection that resulted in a damaging geomagnetic storm?

In either case, electrical power could be lost for months.

Shortages would quickly ensue—food, water, and fuel would disappear within days. Widespread panic and suffering would be unavoidable.

Are you prepared for these large-scale disasters?

This book will help you to prepare for two end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it (TEOTWAWKI) events: the EMP attack and the solar storm. Each threat is carefully studied with analyses of its likelihood and potential impacts on our nation's critical infrastructures. Practical preparations are outlined, including steps to meet the fourteen basic needs in the absence of modern utilities, and the use of Faraday cages and uninterruptible power supplies to protect personal electronics.

Several techniques for constructing ad-hoc Faraday cages are presented. The shielding effectiveness of homemade Faraday cages is measured and compared, including metal garbage cans, foil-wrapped boxes, fire safes, static bags, ammo cans, and microwave ovens. Finally, a low-cost method of constructing a room-sized Faraday cage is presented. The Expanded Edition includes 25 additional pages with discussions of how to establish your own micro-infrastructures, such as food, water, and electricity. Also, the susceptibility and protection of personal automobiles is presented.

I wrote this book to help people understand these two dangerous threats. If you are not fully satisfied with the Disaster Preparedness for EMP Attacks and Solar Storms, send it back, and I'll refund your money, no questions asked.
Arthur T. Bradley, Ph.D.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMct99DiZak

Introduction to EMP and Faraday Cages

Published on May 15, 2013
A discussion of homemade Faraday cages and how to conduct a simple experiment to test their shielding effectiveness against an electromagnetic pulse.


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HOW TO PREPARE FOR AN EMP - YouTube

Published on Jun 4, 2012
This video explains the steps one should take to prepare for the potential of an EMP attack. A great beginner's guide for what you can do.


Faraday Cage: Garbage Can, Really? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoQZY1FtI3c)

LDSPrepper
Uploaded on May 21, 2011

You do NOT need a ground!!!

Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19SuEBgrR0

Is a steel garbage can a good Faraday cage to protect against EMP and Solar flares?

IMHO absolutely!

I show you how to test a Faraday cage to see if it is really working, how to make a nested Faraday cage and how to prepare the items you put in the Faraday cage.

Make Sure You Read All the Info at http://www.FutureScience.com/emp.html

For info and to purchase EMP bags go to http://EMPBags.com

This kind of galvanized container works better as a Faraday cage when sealed with aluminum duct tape.


Faraday Cage: How to Make on the Cheap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ggWv_Gz4s)

LDSPrepper
Uploaded on Jan 6, 2012
This may well be the best Faraday cage you can make on the cheap and the best Faraday cage at any price.

I'm not saying that to brag but I really believe in this design. If you are at all concerned about protecting your electronic equipment from either a man made or solar EMP please consider making a Faraday storage cabinet like this.

The cabinet cost me $100, the tape $32 and the aluminum insulation was free. You might be able to make this Faraday cage for less if you stop by construction sites and get left over aluminum insulation and ask for thirteen feet of aluminum duct tape.



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Feds Quietly 'Prepping' For the Big One | Off The Grid News (http://www.offthegridnews.com/current-events/feds-quietly-prepping-for-the-big-one/)

by Daniel Jennings
17 July 2015
With very little attention, the federal government is preparing for the possibility of a man-made electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack or a solar geomagnetic disturbance (GMD) that potentially would create a nationwide blackout for weeks or months.

Recent news reports indicate that at least three federal agencies are making contingency plans for such events.

The EMP Commission to Congress reported that if the power grid was down for a full year, upwards of 90 percent of the population would die, either from starvation, sickness or civil unrest.

The most public action was taken by the Pentagon, which has decided to move its command center for North America into an EMP-proof bunker. In April it was revealed that the headquarters (http://www.offthegridnews.com/grid-threats/pentagon-finally-admits-the-truth-about-emps/) for the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and the US Northern Command were moving back into an underground facility inside Cheyenne Mountain outside Colorado Springs.

"Because of the very nature of the way that Cheyenne Mountain is built, it's EMP-hardened (http://www.defenseone.com/management/2015/04/pentagon-moves-more-communications-gear-cheyenne-mountain/109549/)," NORAD and North Command's top officer, Admiral William Gortney, told the press. "It wasn't really designed to be that way, but the way it was constructed makes it that way."

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The Cheyenne Mountain Complex was built in the 1960s to coordinate US and Canadian defenses during the Cold War. The Pentagon will spend $1.5 billion to upgrade the Cheyenne Mountain Complex, which was closed in 2004, Defense One reported. Facilities inside the mountain include sleeping quarters, a water supply and a power station. All US military forces presumably would be directed from the facility in the event of an EMP attack or a solar storm (GMD incident) that took out the power grid.

"These facilities and the entire complex of NORAD and NORTHCOM represent the nerve center of defense for North America," former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said in a 2013 speech at Cheyenne Mountain.

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Electric Grid Commission Concerned?

Meanwhile, in May the agency that oversees America's electrical grid, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission or FERC, created a plan to address solar storms. The five members of FERC voted to approve a standard that would require all electrical transmission systems to have contingency plans for GMDs. A GMD in 1859 known as the Carrington Event (http://thetruthwins.com/archives/after-several-near-misses-experts-warn-the-next-carrington-event-will-plunge-us-back-into-the-dark-ages) destroyed the most advanced technology of the day, the telegraph.

Quote"These events are considered to be 'high impact, low frequency' events, but can have potentially severe, widespread effects on reliable grid operation, including blackouts and damage to critical or vulnerable equipment," a press release from FERC read.

FERC is asking electric companies to "assess the vulnerability of their systems to a 'benchmark GMD event,' which NERC [North American Electric Reliability Corporation] described as a 'one-in-100-year' event. If an entity does not meet certain performance requirements based on the assessments, it must develop a plan to achieve the requirements.

"Given the limited historic geomagnetic data and because scientific understanding of such disturbances is still evolving, the Commission is concerned about how a benchmark GMD event is defined in the standard," the release states.


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The night lights of the U.S. Gulf Coast shine below the International Space Station in October 2010

Homeland Security Develops Space Weather Strategy
The White House is so concerned about GMDs that it is developing a National Space Weather Strategy for such events, an April press release from the Department of Homeland Security states. In November 2014, the White House National Science and Technology Council (https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/nstc) launched the Space Weather Operations, Research and Mitigation (SWORM) Task Force. SWORM's charter required the development of a National Space Weather Strategy, which will "articulate high-level strategic goals for enhancing national preparedness to space weather events," the press release states.

Quote"Reducing the nation's vulnerability to space weather (http://www.dhs.gov/national-space-weather-strategy) is a national priority," the press release states. "[Homeland Security's] Strategic National Risk Assessment identifies space weather as a hazard with the potential to pose a significant risk to national security. As a national risk, space weather warrants a coordinated strategy, and the whole community must work together to enhance the resilience of critical infrastructure to the potentially debilitating effects of space weather."

The public is being invited to comment on a draft (http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/DRAFT-NSWS-For-Public-Comment-508.pdf) of the National Space Weather Strategy put together by the SWORM Task Force.

"Space-weather events pose a significant and complex risk to the Nation's infrastructure and have the potential to cause substantial economic and human harm," the draft strategy states.

"The Nation has not experienced the full consequences of an extreme space weather event in modern history," the strategy notes.

Guess what?
NOTHING has been done to further protect the citizens (we, the people) of Planet Earth as of 24 August 2015.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/What-If-You-Had-a-Week-to-Prep-for-the-End-of-the-World.jpg)

These challenges to life and sanity on this planet must be met with clear minds and sound hearts, so may your 2015 see you embracing its highest potential and onward through the fog!

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
Elapsed Time since March 11, 2011, 2:46 PM - Fukushima, Japan (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20110311T1446&p0=2155)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)

"In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."

George Orwell
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on August 25, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
The worst power outage we had was when the Eastern Grid failed

Source of that outage was never confirmed 100% (No solar EMP at the time though)

The reason the entire grid failed was because of the way it was connected   and as each relay failed it over loaded the next one that was supposed to reroute the power

Today's grids are better... and not so dependent on each other. Here in vegas in the summer heat and lighting storms transformers pop all the time. Power goes out for a few minutes while it reroutes Sometimes a few hours if it is close.

Once they find the source its only minutes to put in a new transformer

Most cities have been working to put major grids under ground  getting rid of ugly power poles

Several months down from an EMP from the sun?  Nope not buying that one.

I was in Toronto at the time... I recall using the apartment incinerator to boil water for people who needed it

The Northeast blackout of 1965 was a significant disruption in the supply of electricity on Tuesday, November 9, 1965, affecting parts of Ontario in Canada and Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and Vermont in the United States. Over 30 million people and 80,000 square miles (207,000 km2) were left without electricity for up to 13 hours

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Northeast_Blackout_of_1965.svg/350px-Northeast_Blackout_of_1965.svg.png)

The biggest problem was TOO MUCH POWER and the first switch to break was set TOO LOW for the peak capacity  so the extra power had no where to go and started overloading circuits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_1965

Now we have circuit breakers :P  Like THIS one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIkNY5xjy5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIkNY5xjy5k
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on August 25, 2015, 04:34:48 AM
One DOES have to wonder though why they need to use a highly toxic highly famible liquid to keep those transformers cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: rdunk on August 25, 2015, 06:10:27 AM
Quote: "The Cheyenne Mountain Complex was built in the 1960s to coordinate US and Canadian defenses during the Cold War. The Pentagon will spend $1.5 billion to upgrade the Cheyenne Mountain Complex, which was closed in 2004, Defense One reported. Facilities inside the mountain include sleeping quarters, a water supply and a power station. All US military forces presumably would be directed from the facility in the event of an EMP attack or a solar storm (GMD incident) that took out the power grid.

"These facilities and the entire complex of NORAD and NORTHCOM represent the nerve center of defense for North America," former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said in a 2013 speech at Cheyenne Mountain".

So, great for Cheyenne Mountain, and all within!! But exactly how are they going to "direct all U.S. military forces from this facility", if the power grids are down everywhere else, and all other communication devices/wiring, transformers,,,,,,,etc which are not EMP hardened are likewise "caput"??   

I would guess that submarines, which are submerged, would not be severely affected by EMP. if at all. Water seems to not be a good conductor of radio waves. May not take much depth in salt water to totally block?? Under water might aso be a good place for a Cheyenne Mountain type facility - - or Atlantis!! :)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Gigas on August 25, 2015, 06:14:14 AM
Quote from: zorgon on August 25, 2015, 04:34:48 AM
One DOES have to wonder though why they need to use a highly toxic highly famible liquid to keep those transformers cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5TIDLvMyw

Probably because they are made in china.


Trash can emp protection is cool but you can take screen door metal screen and build a cube to toss the electronics in. You can build a metal screen containment for those smart meters to keep the radiation off you as well.

Couple a squidbillies are selling screen door mesh screens formed to fit over the smart meter on utube for 150 bucks. Why spend all your cash when you can buy screen door screen mesh and do it for pennies,
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 25, 2015, 09:22:12 AM
Quote from: zorgon on August 25, 2015, 04:34:48 AM
One DOES have to wonder though why they need to use a highly toxic highly famible liquid to keep those transformers cool...
Probably because it's the cheaper of all the available liquids that act as an insulator.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 25, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
One question, what's the connection between EMPs and Jade Helm?

Or, as the original topic was found to lack enough doom and gloom, is this thread working as repository for all the "be afraid" topics?   :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 26, 2015, 03:14:51 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Domestic-Terrorist-NOT.jpg)

Greetings:

For the record, how many of the above items does One think that might apply to Me and by extension, to My circle of friends and acquaintances - thanks to JADE HELM2 software?

What do You think TPTB think of my on-line sign-out... "LIBERTY & EQUALITY OR REVOLUTION"    :P


Quote from: ArMaP on August 25, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
One question, what's the connection between EMPs and Jade Helm?

Thank You for that thoughtful question.

My opinion (for what its worth) is that pre-positioning of assets for any eventuality is critical - especially if One has fore-knowledge of an event that would 'mandate' Martial Law.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/next-economic-collapse-640.jpg)

As You are safely in Portugal, You have no skin in the game and therefore cannot fathom the possible consequences of not understanding (or misinterpreting) the signs and preparing accordingly. The recent antics on Wall Street - and mirrored worldwide - indicate that things may not be 'business as usual.'


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/event-emp-burst.jpg)


You say You are up-to-date on what was previously presented?

Please give us Your three (3) top possible reasons for the movement of thousands of tanks, 155 Howitzers, MRAPS, Bradleys, Bearcats, etc, to the 'hostile-designated' states on the JH-15 map?


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/isis-hunting-permit-texas.jpg)


QuoteOr, as the original topic was found to lack enough doom and gloom, is this thread working as repository for all the "be afraid" topics?   :P

Of course, You are entitled to Your opinion.    ;)

BTW, for a Point of Information: Just what do You think the 'Original Topic' was?    ;D

Thank You for Your time and consideration.

I'm entitled to My opinion, also.

The difference is, TEOTWAWKI for the citizens of the United States (including my family), and something You might watch on TV over a nice meal without any repercussions.    :(


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/AmericaNeed_to_Prepare_580.jpg)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 26, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on August 26, 2015, 03:14:51 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Domestic-Terrorist-NOT.jpg)

Greetings:

For the record, how many of the above items does One think that might apply to Me and by extension, to My circle of friends and acquaintances - thanks to JADE HELM2 software?
First of all, do we have confirmation that all that information is correct?

QuoteWhat do You think TPTB think of my on-line sign-out... "LIBERTY & EQUALITY OR REVOLUTION"    :P
Do you think you are important enough for them to even look at it? ;)

QuoteMy opinion (for what its worth) is that pre-positioning of assets for any eventuality is critical - especially if One has fore-knowledge of an event that would 'mandate' Martial Law.
If there are real signs that something may happen I don't see any problem with being prepared, but in this case, even if you have foreknowledge of an event that would 'mandate' martial law, what's the reason for posts like the one about EMPs?

QuoteAs You are safely in Portugal, You have no skin in the game and therefore cannot fathom the possible consequences of not understanding (or misinterpreting) the signs and preparing accordingly. The recent antics on Wall Street - and mirrored worldwide - indicate that things may not be 'business as usual.'
The fact that I "have no skin in the game" doesn't mean that I cannot understand it or the possible consequences. People are people, regardless of where they live.
I didn't see any things on Wall Streets that aren't "business as usual".

QuoteYou say You are up-to-date on what was previously presented?
I didn't say that I am up-to-date in any thing. ???

QuotePlease give us Your three (3) top possible reasons for the movement of thousands of tanks, 155 Howitzers, MRAPS, Bradleys, Bearcats, etc, to the 'hostile-designated' states on the JH-15 map?
So, I ask about the relation between the EMP post and JH-15 and you ask me my three top reasons for the movement of military equipment to states that are part of what is supposed to be a military exercise? ???

QuoteOf course, You are entitled to Your opinion.    ;)
I sure am. ;D

QuoteBTW, for a Point of Information: Just what do You think the 'Original Topic' was?    ;D
What it says in the title, "Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS".

QuoteThe difference is, TEOTWAWKI for the citizens of the United States (including my family), and something You might watch on TV over a nice meal without any repercussions.    :(
It's this way of putting things that I think is highly exaggerated.
The end of the world as the US citizens know it? What real evidence do you or anyone else has about that possibility?

From my personal experience (and from what people I know told me) living under a real dictatorship, living through one revolution and three attempts at counter-revolution, it looks like posting things like this is helping the work of those that want to keep people afraid of something (martial law, alien invasion, pandemics, whatever) while they (whoever they may be) do the things they want to do without anyone noticing.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on August 26, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on August 26, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
First of all, do we have confirmation that all that information is correct?

Look at the sources :P  bottom right fine print

::)

QuoteDo you think you are important enough for them to even look at it? ;)

You will know you have their attention when they stop by your house for a 'visit'  My 'visitor' spent three days 'chatting'  I am still here to tell the tale :D

QuoteIf there are real signs that something may happen I don't see any problem with being prepared,

"Be prepared" was taught in Boy Scouts where they trained kids in basic survival skills and other useful things.

"Be prepared" used to be taught in grade school like what to do in an earthquake or tsunami (do NOT collect seashells when the tide goes out... follow the animals uphill :P )

"Be prepared" is a directive for all Mormons to have a bug out bag for ever family members and a one month supply of food and water

"Be prepared" is what we teach and practice in the Medieval group We even can make our own clothes
(http://landoflegendslv.com/03ports/portofshalott/images/Events/LoomDemo2002/loom001.jpg)

In the meantime... I look outside and I see no tanks driving up the street, took in a $5.00 movie yesterday and a 2 for 1 awesome buffet that came to $$8.99

So I am prepared as best as I can be... food and supplies for a year, sword are sharp and support group minutes away

Unfortunately for you ArMaP there is no local Barony in Portugal  Closest is Spain... but you are in the Kingdom of Drachenwald (Dragon Woods)

::)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 26, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: zorgon on August 26, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
Look at the sources :P  bottom right fine print
I saw that, and I also saw the black "blob" at the top, as if someone had taken the original image and used a black brush to paint over the original title and added the "are you a domestic terrorist".
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on August 27, 2015, 02:18:13 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on August 26, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
I saw that, and I also saw the black "blob" at the top, as if someone had taken the original image and used a black brush to paint over the original title and added the "are you a domestic terrorist".

Do You have a point to be made here?

Even IF You are 'correct,' what would that have to do with the message as presented?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on August 27, 2015, 02:37:07 AM
Patriot, Oathkeeper  vs Domestic Terrorist

Where is the line>

Harry Ried says the Bundy supporters were Domestic Terrorists  yet they never fired a shot or threw a punch. Even the main stream news anchor was shocked at Harry's comment. I guess Harry was PISSED that he didn't get his land deal with China because they wanted nothing to do with that mess

Re 'black blob'  I would assume he means possible image tampering :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on August 27, 2015, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on August 27, 2015, 02:18:13 AM
Do You have a point to be made here?
Yes, anyone can make an image.  :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/American_Idiot_2.jpg)

QuoteEven IF You are 'correct,' what would that have to do with the message as presented?
Why did you post the image, because you like the colours or because of the text? If the text is fake the end result is that you are propagating fake messages.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 01:37:13 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Tcas_EU-Flysafe.jpg)
TCAS and EHSI cockpit display

TCAS, ADS-B Unreliable in Southeast U.S. Beginning Sept. 2 (https://www.nbaa.org/ops/airspace/regional/20150901-tcas-adsb-unreliable-in-southeast-united-states-beginning-september-2.php)

Sept. 1, 2015
Due to military activities, the TCAS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system) and ADS-B (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillance_%E2%80%93_broadcast) surveillance may be unreliable in the airspace over Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida, and extending approximately 200 nautical miles offshore, from 1 a.m. EDT (0500z) Sept. 2 until midnight EDT (0459z) on Oct. 1.

QuoteThe Traffic Alert and Collision Avoidance System (TCAS), also known as the Airborne Collision Avoidance System (ACAS) is an airborne system designed to increase cockpit awareness of nearby aircraft and service as a last defense against mid-air collisions. The system monitors airspace around an aircraft for other transponder equipped aircraft that may present a collision threat. TCAS operates independently of ground-based equipment to provide pilots with guidance on how to avoid a potential collision.

Pilots are advised that the traffic alert and TCAS may fail to establish tracks on nearby aircraft and may fail to receive traffic alerts (TA) or resolution advisories (RA). Operators should be aware that tracks may first appear within close proximity to their aircraft, and may immediately go into TA/RA status.

QuoteAutomatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast (ADS-B) is a precise satellite-based surveillance system. ADS-B Out uses GPS technology to determine an aircraft's location, airspeed and other data, and broadcasts that information to a network of ground stations, which relays the data to air traffic control displays and to nearby aircraft equipped to receive the data via ADS-B In. Operators of aircraft equipped with ADS-B In can receive weather and traffic position information delivered directly to the cockpit.

Pilots are advised to maintain an increased visual awareness in this area. If operators believe that an aircraft should have triggered an alert, the incident should be reported to air traffic control as soon as possible.

This is due to a late notice Department of Defense exercise, and NBAA has voiced its concern to the FAA that these sort of significant impact tests need much more notice to operators in the NAS.

The NOTAM numbers are as follows:
      5/2817 New York Center (ZNY)
      5/2818 Washington Center (ZDC)
      5/2819 Jacksonville Center (ZJX)
      5/2820 Miami Center (ZMA)
      5/2834 NY Oceanic (ZWY)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 04:11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0wKHsy2jc

September East Coast Alert! Last Minute Military Drill To Disrupt TCAS & ADS-B For Entire Month! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI0wKHsy2jc)

Published on Sep 2, 2015
False Flag Alert for the east coast for the entire month of september! last minute military drills could leave aircraft pilots blind in the sky! what are they trying to hide?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 04:15:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQFgmrRYNM

Alert: Military Exercise to disrupt Airline Flight collision systems! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQFgmrRYNM)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on September 03, 2015, 01:14:20 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 01:37:13 AM
TCAS, ADS-B Unreliable in Southeast U.S. Beginning Sept. 2 (https://www.nbaa.org/ops/airspace/regional/20150901-tcas-adsb-unreliable-in-southeast-united-states-beginning-september-2.php)

Sept. 1, 2015
Due to military activities, the TCAS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system) and ADS-B (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillance_%E2%80%93_broadcast) surveillance may be unreliable in the airspace over Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida, and extending approximately 200 nautical miles offshore, from 1 a.m. EDT (0500z) Sept. 2 until midnight EDT (0459z) on Oct. 1.

Is that area part of Jade Helm or are these "military activities" unrelated?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 06:25:48 PM

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/07TEXASWEB2-articleLarge.jpg)


QuoteIs that area part of Jade Helm or are these "military activities" unrelated?

That's the Question of the Day!

Thank you for your time, consideration and participation.  ;)

Perhaps this 'analysis' will be of interest.

From our friend, Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/08/neo-jade-helm-an-admission-of-american-failure/):

On April 27, the organizers of Jade Helm held a meeting in a small Texas town describing their plans. Those of us with some sympathy for the military groaned as the army spokesman failed epically during attempts to woo the audience through flag waving and pulling on patriotic heartstrings. No one was buying any of it.

Whatever the great fear of Jade Helm may be with some, the sad reality of what Jade Helm really is may be worse.

After a careful analysis of the Army statements, cleaning away the fog and cobwebs, the doublespeak, this is what the world was told in that small Texas town:

      Jade Helm is a simulation to teach the Army to not kill every civilian they see like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
      
      Jade Helm will teach, they hope, a totally failed military to operate using human intelligence they might get by not alienating everyone in the world by acting like total fools and incompetents.
      
      Jade Helm is supposed to teach special operations troops how to survive without Playstations, 6,000 calorie lunches and "mama army" 24/7.
      
      Jade Helm units are going to learn to move undetected, pretend and we mean "pretend" to earn the trust of civilians who will be role players. I hope the cooperating locals are getting paid for this.
      
      Jade Helm is an attempt to sell a narrative that the defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan and the horrific failures that have left both nations a total disaster can be fixed.
      
      This, of course, is delusional.
      
      Jade Helm is based on the hypothesis that if troops are trained to work around people better, they can get intelligence, get help from locals the way the Viet Cong and Taliban have done. This is unrealistic.
      
      Jade Helm may well be training to fight in America under a Red Dawn scenario or even a civil war.
      
      Jade Helm may be a prequel to American involvement in Ukraine.
      
      Jade Helm, however, seems to be a "busywork fix" for a number of problems that have plagued the military that are not being addressed, like fighting the wrong wars against the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
      
      Jade Helm, in the most direct terms, is an attempt to train in the art of the "Charm Offensive."


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Modern-Sniper-Technology-featured-image-for-Jim.jpg)

In an attempt to dispel rumors of gun confiscations and mass arrests, those capable of reading between the lines could catch, from through the spin, the smell of fear and the look of panic and desperation.

If more Americans clearly understood what Jade Helm is telling them, they would soon realize that there is no Army protecting America, certainly not one worth $1 trillion per year or more.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on September 03, 2015, 09:21:01 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 06:25:48 PM
Perhaps this 'analysis' will be of interest.

It's not, as it's not related to my question.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 04, 2015, 12:42:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErpSgWw-pAM

Massive Pulse Over the Atlantic/Aviation Alert 2 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErpSgWw-pAM)

Published on Sep 3, 2015
Satellite Imaging Picks up Massive Energy Pulse Across the Atlantic Ocean, 2 Military Helicopters Down, Could these Events be Related?
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 05, 2015, 06:01:22 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/trump-757-lga-n757af-620.jpg)
Trump Force One taxis to its new home at LaGuardia Airport for the first time. (Photo by Matt Molnar/NYCAviation)


Donald Trump's Plane Removed From Online Flight Tracker - Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trumps-plane-removed-online-819453)

4 September 2015
Real-time web tracking of Donald Trump's 757 aircraft has ended, possibly as a security precaution.

Alone among the presumptive 2016 Presidential candidates, Donald Trump owns his own aircraft — a Boeing 757-200, with Rolls-Royce turbofan engines, tail number N757FA.

Quote...tail number N757FA...

As any avid Trumpophile knows, Trump Force One's registration number is N757AF, not N757FA.

So, how did the venerable Hollywood Reporter get this wrong? Honest mistake or something perhaps a bit more nefarious?

N757FA is a deregistered number.



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/FAA_REGISTRY_N757FA.png)


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/N757FA.png)


This is the current registration of Trump Force One.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/FAA_REGISTRY_N757AF.png)

Thanks to the marvels of the Web, it was possible to track the plane's flights in real time by entering the tail number into FlightAware (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N757AF), a free flight-tracking service. That is, until Wednesday, when the notice "this aircraft not available for public tracking per request from owner/operator" appeared on the website...


Trump bought the plane (http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-boeing-757-airliner-2015-7), first delivered to a budget Danish airline in 1991 and subsequently owned by Microsoft's Paul Allen, in 2011 and presided over a Trump-like stem to stern renovation that added gold-plated lavatory fixtures and even seat-belt buckles.

Trump leases the plane to fellow high rollers when not on the campaign trail or attending to his far-flung business interests — take a video tour (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZq3iCn2y74) of the plane hosted by The Apprentice's Amanda Miller.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on September 06, 2015, 01:28:39 AM
http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/topstories/DOD-Activity-Will-Make-TCAS-ADS-B-Unreliable-in-Southeast-U-S-_85955.html#.VeuHiBFViko

DOD Activity Will Make TCAS, ADS-B Unreliable in Southeast U.S.

[Avionics Today 09-03-2015] Due to military activities, the Traffic Collision and Avoidance System (TCAS) and Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) surveillance may be unreliable in the airspace over certain parts of the Southeast U.S. during the month of September. According to a statement released by the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA), a late notice Department of Defense (DOD) exercise may disrupt airspace over Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida, and extend approximately 200 nautical miles offshore, from 1 a.m. EDT Sept. 2 until midnight EDT on Oct. 1. Pilots are advised that the traffic alert and TCAS may fail to establish tracks on nearby aircraft and may fail to receive Traffic Alerts (TA) or Resolution Advisories (RA). Operators should be aware that tracks may first appear within close proximity to their aircraft, and may immediately go into TA/RA status.

Pilots are advised to maintain an increased visual awareness in this area. If operators believe that an aircraft should have triggered an alert, the incident should be reported to air traffic control as soon as possible.

Heree is something to back up what you had said about TCAS system being unreliable and this comes from Avionics Magazine.  It came from a DoD Alert memo.  Makes you wonder what kind of electronic shenanigans is going on.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 06, 2015, 02:36:02 AM
September 8-9 and 13 and 23-24 have been bandied about as tipping points.

Head on a swivel, ever vigilant.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: ArMaP on September 06, 2015, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 06, 2015, 01:28:39 AM
Heree is something to back up what you had said about TCAS system being unreliable and this comes from Avionics Magazine.  It came from a DoD Alert memo.  Makes you wonder what kind of electronic shenanigans is going on.
As the warning/advisory linked on the previous page shows at the end the text from the ZNY NOTAM, where it talks about "ACTIVITIES ON 1030/1090 MHZ", I went looking for the systems that use those frequencies, and besides SSR and TCAS, those frequencies are also used by IFF (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_friend_or_foe), as we can see here (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/compendium/0960.00-1164.00_01MAR14.pdf).

Maybe they are expecting an invasion from Atlantis.  :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on September 15, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
http://www.stripes.com/remember-jade-helm-15-the-controversial-military-exercise-it-s-over-1.368025

QuoteRemember Jade Helm 15, the controversial military exercise? It's over

By Dan Lamothe
The Washington Post
Published: September 14, 2015

The military exercise Jade Helm 15 generated enough conspiracy theories this year that it garnered mockery on late-night television, commentary from presidential candidates and reaction from the Texas governor. The basic thrust of the concerns: The military was laying the groundwork for martial law — if not now, then sometime in the future.

The exercise will end quietly Tuesday, however. Carried out in parts of Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Florida, it will conclude after two months of operations, said Suzanne Nagl, a spokeswoman for Army Special Operations Command, which oversaw it.

"At this time, we do not have any lessons learned to share since we have not yet conducted an after-action review of the exercise, but we do believe the exercise overall was a success," Nagl said in an email.

As initially detailed in planning documents, the exercise was to include elite service members from four military branches. It eventually was reduced to include 200 Special Operations forces and an additional 300 support personnel for most of the exercise, with about 700 hundred members of the Army's 82nd Airborne Division traveling to Texas to train as part of Jade Helm for about five days in August.

The story began garnering attention in March, after planning slides for the exercise, likely prepared for government officials in Texas, began circulating online. They labeled Texas, Utah and a section of southern California as hostile territory, and New Mexico as uncertain territory leaning hostile.

The military has routinely held training exercises like Jade Helm in the past. But this one took on a life of its own before it even began. An informational meeting attended by citizens and local government officials in Bastrop, Texas, in April generated national attention after several people accused the federal government of preparing for a takeover.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) ordered the Texas State Guard, a militia he oversees, to monitor the exercise. He said he did so to address the concerns of Texans, but was mocked by some critics for giving voice to conspiracy theories.

Notably, comedian Jon Stewart ripped Abbott by saying he was catering to "Lone Star lunatics" in a segment on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show."

"Oh dear Lord," Stewart said. "Yet another waste of Texas funds that could have been spent on actual threats, like your infamous chainsaw massacres. Texas, it's not that I don't find it adorable that your governor thinks your State Guard could take on the United States military. It's like a little dog growling at a big dog, or an 8-year-old picking a fight with the Predator."

Republican presidential candidates also weighed in, with Sen. Ted Cruz, R.-Texas, saying he wanted more information from the Pentagon and former Texas Gov. Rick Perry telling Texas residents they should trust the military.

Gawker reported last week that the Texas State Guard saw an increase in recruiting after Abbott's decision. Guard officials called it a "great opportunity," Gawker reported, citing emails obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 15, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
Most Excellent!

Now, we can look forward to seeing all those tanks, Humvees, 155 Howitzers, Bearcats, Bradleys and the miles on concertina razor wire being transported back from whence they came, right?

"Everybody out of the pool!"

;)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: WarToad on September 16, 2015, 01:36:46 PM
Love to see the final tally of the $$$ spent on exercises like this.  Cha-CHING!
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 17, 2015, 04:27:43 AM
Why Are You Telling Me This? ~ Read by Snordster - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls829YxcYOc)
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sinny on October 12, 2015, 02:03:24 AM
I thought it was illegal for the army to operate on domestic soil?

Someone explain that clause to me please.

Also, what are the national guard and how do they fit in?

Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: spacemaverick on October 12, 2015, 02:59:06 AM
Quote from: Sinny on October 12, 2015, 02:03:24 AM
I thought it was illegal for the army to operate on domestic soil?

Someone explain that clause to me please.

Also, what are the national guard and how do they fit in?

It use to be that they could not perform law enforcement functions on domestic soil except on their bases and the same goes for their reserve units.  However, this has been loosened.  Jade Helm was an exercise.  When I was in the Army we conducted huge drills both on and off base.  Areas where we performed our exercises off base we received permission to do this.  Once a year we had a whole division (around 23,000 soldiers) performing exercises in California when I was there...(7th Division Ft. Ord, Ca.  Military Forces Commander and Chief is the President.

National Guard comes under the Governor of each state.  Each state has it's own Guard and is a state unit but can be called up a federalized when needed by the president.  National Guard can be used when the Governor sees fit.  We have seen them deployed here in Florida during the 4 hurricanes that came through Florida in 2004.  They were accompanied by police and performed search and rescue and assisted police with enforcement.
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: zorgon on October 12, 2015, 10:28:50 AM
SOMEONE :P should pull up the CONSTITUTION and read what it says about the Government even having an armed force :D

It's SUPPOSED to only be allowed to maintain a NAVY to defend us

Funny how so few know this

HINT  That is why the NAVY is really the "THEY" running everything :P
Title: Re: Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?
Post by: Sinny on October 12, 2015, 02:38:15 PM
Thanks for the input :)