German Government Calls for Immediate Stockpiling of Food and Cash!
Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:05
An Ex M16 Officer that I am aware of, posted this on a website that I visit..and seemed to be rather concerned about it..
Taking a measured view, the German official position looks sensible and defensive and may not indicate an immediate crisis, however the very fact that they would take such a position means they are on the same hymn sheet as myself and the data I have sight of. This should not be underestimated. The Germans are very conservative people not given to drama and the very fact that they would issue such a directive is a very clear indicator of how serious they take the possible and various situations. They built new bunkers some years ago not for military defence but in case of a 'natural disaster' quote/unquote. According to a report by German broadcaster Deutsche Welle (DW), citing the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung newspaper, the move would be the first of its kind since the end of the Cold War.
The proposal is reportedly contained in a government civil-defense-strategy document, which says that people should stock 10 days worth of food and a sufficient supply of water, energy, money and medicine that would allow them to stay put long enough for the government to respond. If this statement was from the Americans I would take it as no more than "Business as usual" but from Germany this is very, very unusual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL0Q0cY_Pzo&feature=em-uploademail
Germany warns its citizens to stockpile emergency food and water in case of terror attack (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-food-water-stockpile-warning-terror-attack-catastrophe-government-terrorism-a7203376.html)
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The German government is planning to tell citizens to stockpile food and water in their homes in case of a terror attack or catastrophe.
The "Concept for Civil Defence," which has not been released, will require the population to stockpile enough food for ten days, according to Frankfurter Allgemmeine Sonntagszeitung (FAZ) newspaper.
Citizens would also be required to stock enough water for five days.
Measures have been announced this month by the government to invest more on its police and security forces including creating a special unit to fight cyber crime and terrorism.
In the UK we tend to avoid this type of stuff to avoid creating fear in the population and preventing panic.
The German Interior Minister said it's not related to terrorism, as you can see below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8qLcmjZ_Y
PS: the YouTube page has the translation in the video description.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 25, 2016, 10:27:40 AM
The German Interior Minister said it's not related to terrorism, as you can see below.
There has always been natural disasters. The only thing that is different now is terrorism and Russia flexing their muscles over Ukraine.
Quote from: Pimander on August 25, 2016, 11:53:41 AM
There has always been natural disasters.
True.
QuoteThe only thing that is different now is terrorism and Russia flexing their muscles over Ukraine.
That stockpiling is too much for a terrorist attack and too little for a war.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 25, 2016, 07:20:46 PM
That stockpiling is too much for a terrorist attack and too little for a war.
I think it is an example of a government reacting to events, over which it has little power, so that it appears to be doing something.
Quote from: Pimander on August 26, 2016, 12:05:04 AM
I think it is an example of a government reacting to events, over which it has little power, so that it appears to be doing something.
The events being the terrorist attacks? I disagree, the population doesn't need to have water for 5 days because some guy killed half a dozen people, it doesn't make sense.
I posted the initial article video but have yet to watch the video...
Judging by one or two of the replies... it may not be clear as to what may create such a possible situation.
What I will say is this is within the time frame that I referred to in one of my Stock Market warning posts.
I referred to we may see a possible top in the Markets between July and August...
So far the Dow Jones has made two main tops in this time frame...July 20th and August 15th...
It has since sold off and recently broke thru a longer term initial support level that had occurred in this period that may suggest that the market is soon to decline...
My analysis says its make or break in the next few days..... There is a US Holiday around Sept 5th...
that often the Market will hold up to...when topping around this time frame in past years when we have seen crashes occur in From August or early September 1929 as a major eg..
So far the market is copying another past cycle very closely and that went on to have a severe decline from Late August until December...
I think this year may copy it unless we see it break back above the August 15th high of 18670 on the Dow Jones...
I did have other cycle dates for Aug 11th, 18th and 24th as tops.. There was other tops made on the 11th, 18th and the last main one on Aug 23rd..a day earlier than I expected..
A analysts that I follow refers to Aug 26th to 30th as being most likely....
we may see the market hold up to next week.. if it does not break down overnight or later today...
If the markets crash in the next 2 weeks.... that may create mass panic...that may refer to what is being indicated...
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia/charts?symb=DJIA&countrycode=US&time=5&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=8%2F25%2F2016&freq=1&compidx=none&compind=none&comptemptext=Enter+Symbol%28s%29&comp=none&uf=7168&ma=1&maval=50&lf=1&lf2=4&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&style=1013
QuoteMy Next main cycles range from JULY 15th, 25th and early August..6th/8th.
Another expert that I follow is suggesting between Aug 26th to 30th then Sept 26th and Oct 20th as being major sell off dates..
US Dow Jones Stock Market
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=9514.msg125488#msg125488
Quote from: ArMaP on August 26, 2016, 12:33:56 AM
5 days because some guy killed half a dozen people, it doesn't make sense.
Perhaps they are anticipating the water supply being poisoned or some kind of chemical/biological attack. Who knows what the intelligence is....
Quote from: Pimander on August 26, 2016, 01:12:31 AM
Perhaps they are anticipating the water supply being poisoned or some kind of chemical/biological attack. Who knows what the intelligence is....
Or, considering the recent floods in central Europe, maybe they are expecting something like that.
A Few More posts that have recently been made by the Retired Ex Mi6 Spook....
He has recently said that we were created by E.Ts...
QuoteOh! There is a message. They have to meet on an aircraft carrier moored off a remote island. That is a level of security last seen in the Second World War. Boy, they are really nervous !! I wonder why?? Euro Leaders Outline Vision Of EU Without UK
"Francois Hollande, Matteo Renzi and Angela Merkel
Common defence, intelligence sharing and reducing youth unemployment will be the priorities once the UK leaves the bloc."
QuoteThe 9/11 attacks on New York & Washington DC were committed by traitors within the US, UK and Israeli governments.
Posted on March 1, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai
Russia says it has evidence that the US, UK and Israel were responsible for orchestrating the 9/11 attacks on the American people
A retired officer specialising in Israeli counter intelligence has claimed that nuclear devices were used on 9/11 – and were a modified version of the W-54 artillery shells that were provided to the Israeli's between 1988 and 1998 from US stockpiles.
According to the Russian insider – chemical analysis done on the fallout at ground zero has identified the chemical/radiation footprint of the warheads used in the attacks as being of US/Israeli origin.
Usapoliticstoday.com reports:
All plutonium based warheads have a chemical fingerprint that can identify the type of design and where the PU was made and how old it is. This was the 911 blackmail on Bush 1 and 2, the illegal transfer of surplus US nuclear weapons to the Israelis and why the continued cover up, along with the stolen gold and stock fraud that was going on Wall Street etc.
QuoteI told you they were nervous meeting on the aircraft carrier; now we have this:-
Assassination attempt on Angela Merkel foiled' as armed man arrested 'trying to infiltrate German chancellor's motorcade' in Prague
A feared assassination attempt on German Chancellor Angela Merkel has reportedly been foiled in Prague.
Czech police halted an armed man in a black 4×4 Mercedes as he allegedly tried to join Merkel's motorcade during her visit to the capital.
" The perpetrator has been detained," police spokesman Josef Bocan said.
"He is suspected of attempting to cause a crime – specifically an attempt to use violence against an official."
"The incident is currently being investigated by Prague detectives."
QuoteFLASH. 26th August 2016. A lot of serious poop hitting the fan in the USA. See "Veterans Today" article web site for full details: -
VT Exclusive: Largest Pedophile Ring in History, 70,000 Members, Heads of State, the Rats Scramble
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor on August 24, 2016
VT and Keshe take the lead in breaking the most insidious human trafficking gang on the planet
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Quote(NaturalNews) Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is not well, nor is she physically capable of executing the job of commander-in-chief and chief executive of the most powerful nation on the planet – and the evidence continues to pour in proving that point. But only her cult-like supporters and her Left-wing drone-like cheerleaders in the mainstream media refuse to see what everyone else sees clearly.
Let's look at the evidence:
–The fainting blood clot incident: Back in 2012, Clinton fainted and suffered a concussion. She was rushed to the hospital, and was diagnosed with a blood clot between her brain and skull.
Since then, reports have indicated that Clinton takes a lot of daily medications, many of them to prevent blood clots, which she is obviously prone to developing. Also, she takes drugs to prevent fainting spells, and to treat a thyroid condition.
–Coughing fits: Coughing is a side effect of some of those drugs she takes, Town Hall reported.
As she so often does when she begins uncontrollable coughing at public events, Clinton blows them off as "allergies," "stress of the campaign," "talking a lot," etc. But they are a sign that something is amiss.
QuoteYou might wonder why I am reposting items of current affairs. The reason is these are critical times and off World interests are concerned with the outcomes of human affairs. This includes the meetings of the European Heads of State recently, which was more concerned with European Security rather than the stated reasons from the very secure location on an Italian aircraft carrier. Also in the United States power shifts are occurring. The rigid control by blackmail and other dubious methods in Washington are breaking down and the nasty truths of the way things have been run are now coming out into the public domain. In desperation the "serious players" have been trying to pull some 'stunts' to distract the steeple public from noticing all this. Hence we must be on our guard and watchful for "false flag' incidents to take the public attention. These usually involve body bags as unless a news story contains death and horror the media don't pay much attention to it. Be warned. However many a good soul in the chain of command has interceded many of these serious attempted distractions. It should also be noted that UT/ET has a hand in this and will invoke 'rules of engagement' if need be. That means disarming nukes and other ordinance should the need arise. Take NOTICE
Astro, have you posted that in the wrong thread?
The initial post came from that Spook that I refer to..
One of the last posts in the prior post I made refers to Angela Merkal that I thought may have been related to the initial post if she had been targeted for an attempted assassination...
The other quotes are other things that he has recently said that I thought maybe of interest.
but maybe they could be added elsewhere.
There was another video by the guy who refers to the earthquakes.. that suggested there was one large one in Italy on Aug 23rd /24th that also created others in Poland and Gibraltar..
Quote from: Pimander on August 26, 2016, 02:07:04 PM
Astro, have you posted that in the wrong thread?
Someone else who I follow has just announced that the warning given by Germany is or was not a threat due to terrorists as we may envision..but that it is in ref to Germany fearing an attack threat from the USA and that it also applies to other European Countries...
Czechoslovakia has also given the same warning.
and London, England's Financial center is also a target.
He suggest that its likely to have been False flag attacks from US on Germany and Czechoslovakia and the UK and maybe other Countries.
He says "NO BODY WANTS TO BE A CHANCELLOR OF A COUNTRY THAT EXISTS NO LONGER"
He says that Angela Merkel was Turning against the Illuminati and her lord and masters..that somehow has since created some reason that the USA was aiming to attack Germany.
He believes that by them telling their people to prepare, that this will help to avoid the attacks...
I think that Russia and China, as allies, may end up dominating the earth for a simple reason. They may be the last nations in existence by default.
The West is bizarrely obsessed with eliminating borders, citizenship, common national languages and religion and anything else that's part of national cultures. The USA has been held together by economic mobility and respect for the Bill of Rights. Both of those are eroding.
I don't know what to make of Gordon Duff. He offers occasional revelations that seem credible and then follows it all up with blazing nonsense.
Quote from: Eighthman on August 27, 2016, 12:17:52 AM
The USA has been held together by economic mobility and respect for the Bill of Rights. Both of those are eroding.
Both of which Trump is opposed to. :)
That maybe the case if what maybe happening is not just part of some plan from the leader Elites where all the main Nations could be involved.
If Russia and China are not connected and the West Elites plans fall apart or fail... then yes we could see the West loose its power.
QuoteI think that Russia and China, as allies, may end up dominating the earth for a simple reason. They may be the last nations in existence by default.
That does seem to be what has been happening.
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The West is bizarrely obsessed with eliminating borders, citizenship, common national languages and religion and anything else that's part of national cultures. The USA has been held together by economic mobility and respect for the Bill of Rights. Both of those are eroding.
I am not familiar with Gordon Duff.
Unless he has suggested something similar to the ref that I referred to and maybe suggested a similar statement...
QuoteI don't know what to make of Gordon Duff. He offers occasional revelations that seem credible and then follows it all up with blazing nonsense.
Communism may end up being the Superpower after all
Elites? What like the billionaire Trump? ;D
This was supposed to have been discussed on Wednesday, does anyone know if there is any news?
I would elaborate further: Western society is rapidly changing with little thought given to the truckload of assumptions upon which these nations depend. Will the new definitions of marriage and family be effective in continuing societies? Will people bother with the sacrifice of raising children when virtual reality, unlimited porn and video games are available? Could political correctness undermine military or policing effectiveness? What happens when religious traditions are widely abandoned?
Worse, it may be that these questions can't even be asked or examined. The West is charging into a future it cannot predict.
Quote from: Eighthman on August 28, 2016, 02:16:49 AM
I would elaborate further: Western society is rapidly changing with little thought given to the truckload of assumptions upon which these nations depend. Will the new definitions of marriage and family be effective in continuing societies? Will people bother with the sacrifice of raising children when virtual reality, unlimited porn and video games are available? Could political correctness undermine military or policing effectiveness? What happens when religious traditions are widely abandoned?
The reality is that there's no such thing as "Western society", at least not to the specific detail most people apply to it, like in your post.
The definition of marriage and family is not under the same threats in all "western countries", and what makes most people think twice about raising children is how their future is going to be, specially regarding stability, monetary and otherwise. Porn, virtual reality and video games take part of people's life but do not dictate any thing, at least not in Portugal.
The same things happens political correctness, some countries are much more affected than others, and religious traditions usually change slowly and adapt to the times. For example, something that many people don't know is that in Portugal (and I suppose in other southern Europe countries) is that a large percentage of people in the Communist party are Christians, people here tend to get the best (according to their points of view) things from their favourite ideologies and are not as extremists about ideologies as in the US, for example, so I don't think important religious traditions are going to be abandoned.
well so far the news I've been able to gather , its all put across as relatively mundane, another case for Germans to say "just in case", the usual efficiency.
ill be over there next month, ill see if I can find out more, that's if Germanys still visitable by then :D
funbox
Discussed on Wednesday by Who ?
Where did you get your info from ?
I am not aware that it was spread around the main media....
From what I had seen its come from the likes of Conspiracist forums or Facebook.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 27, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
This was supposed to have been discussed on Wednesday, does anyone know if there is any news?
Two More comments from the Retired Ex Agent...
QuoteInteresting that Simon has made this announcement following the Germans telling their people to stockpile 10 days of food and water. He believes it's a message to the Americans to ward off a potential false flag attack and that London is also a potential target. The Czechs have the same data re stockpiling though I believe London should be OK - no worries.
The US is desperate for a distraction from their failing policies. Be aware they are indeed trying to make trouble but it is more to do with the Turks changing sides and going over to Russia.
Regarding a personal food store, I would always recommend that you have food and water set aside in case of emergency - of any kind.
What are your views?
QuoteSunday the 28/08/2016 - Notation from the Inner Keep.
The Obama administration is pretty desperate to get some foreign distractions going to try to offset the Presidential Elections proceeding as they figure their Heir Hilary is not going to deliver the business and the bias in the USA is now so great that even with the Presstitutes scamming that Hilary is in the lead Trump will win and throw them all in the slammer. Hence very provocative and ill conceived military moves are in progress in three key theatres, namely, Ukraine, Syria and Korea, moving up limited field forces into engagement positions to try to entice the 'other side' into a defensive move, thus starting yet another hot grass fire war, as if we don't have enough going on in the World already. Now the US tried to get Germany, France, Italy and the EU, let alone Japan and South Korea to be the agents du provocateur in this little game and they had only a mixed response to that. Here in the UK under cool headed PM Teresa May we looked the other way, paid lip service, but we ain't on for it I assure you. So watch out for a self inflicted wound coming from the paid assassins of the USA masquerading as some terrorist or "opposition funded" group giving the excuse to 'defend the West or democracy itself'. Does anyone have a brown paper bag in the house while I throw up; "business as usual." But this is very out of date thinking and very old hat, however there are not many brain cells working in the West Wing right now.
Remember the Order from Peter Pace, US High Command: "No Officer is obliged to obey an Order which he considers illegal." We have to appreciate here, that the current and establishment crooks World Wide, not just all the usual suspects, are getting pretty near the edge of loosing control and cannon fodder is their usual way out. From sources of North Atlantic Intelligence Group, London and LA.
Quote from: astr0144 on August 28, 2016, 06:51:08 PM
Discussed on Wednesday by Who ?
The German government.
QuoteWhere did you get your info from ?
I am not aware that it was spread around the main media....
From what I had seen its come from the likes of Conspiracist forums or Facebook.
Several places have that, here's one (http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-security-stockpiling-idUKKCN10W0NE) of those. And it doesn't get much more mainstream than Reuters. :)
Edited to add that it looks like this (https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Broschueren/2016/konzeption-zivile-verteidigung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile) is the official document, published on the German Ministry of Interior's site (in German).
Quote from: astr0144 on August 28, 2016, 06:54:35 PM
Two More comments from the Retired Ex Agent...
It's not good that it starts with a lie, Germans didn't tell "their people to stockpile 10 days of food and water".
I don't think that I seen anything about the topic on other main websites that I visited or on TV..
but I can now see that its on some main websites..
Had you known about this before Aug 24th ?
I can see one website refers to it on Aug 21st.
Why do you say Germany did not tell their people to stockpile food / water...
From what I can see all the articles that I have read that do refer to it suggest that they had done so !
QuoteHeadlines of your Reuters website article.....Germany to tell people to stockpile food and water in case of attacks - FAS
QuoteIt's not good that it starts with a lie, Germans didn't tell "their people to stockpile 10 days of food and water".
Quote from: astr0144 on August 28, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Had you known about this before Aug 24th ?
I can see one website refers to it on Aug 21st.
I don't remember when I saw it, but I saw it on another forum before being posted on Pegasus.
QuoteWhy do you say Germany did not tell their people to stockpile food / water...
Because there isn't one official source that says it.
QuoteFrom what I can see all the articles that I have read that do refer to it suggest that they had done so !
From what I could see all articles pointed to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung newspaper, and that's not an official source.
The PDF I found on the site of the German Ministry of the Interior (see my previous post) appears to say (I don't know German, I had to use Google Translator) that people should be encouraged to have water for 5 days, at two litres per person per day, just after saying how much water the water supply companies should have stored.
I haven't seen it from an official source.
I have been over at ATS recently. It looks like a predominantly political forum right now. Only a small amount of space and anomalous material. I'm bored already.
I think going back to looking in a more focused way at anomalous Moon and Mars material would be far more interesting.
It does seem strange if there does not seem to be any clear reference to confirm this suggestion.
The Ex Agent has just posted this that if there is anything in it does seem more serious...
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Now Hear This. This could all be bragging and bluff but it is looking more serious. The German Army started drafting Doctors in today (30/08/2016). So what justifies that? Lets make some basic analysis. Obama tried to pull some stunts recently, hence the German/Franco/Italian high security meeting afloat. Yes !! Unusual. So lets get basic. You can store dry food, canned food, water, money (that is cash) as ATMs may not work. You can get alternative cooking units, bottled gas (don't store it in the house), candles, batteries and if you get an inverter you can get some mains power from car batteries. If you cut right down on what is running in the house, isolate on the main breaker the house circuits from the grid, then you can plug the inverter output into a socket near your heating boiler and run the pumps as the gas pressure will likely remain good for days. That is if this is in a cold period. Remember the male to male outlet from the inverter will be live when on, so tape it into the wall socket in use otherwise you could touch the ends and shock yourself. Only run when the house is isolated. Disconnect before you go back on the grid by re-connecting the main breaker. A small genny could be a good idea. If possible in a metal shed (Faraday cage) with the exhaust run through a hole to the outside. I have built this all before when things looked tricky. A stitch in time saves nine. In an emergency fill baths, pans etc with water as water pressure could drop away. Get iodine tablets, see web for research. Don't take raw iodine as it is toxic in quantity. That is thyroid protection. Select a windowless room in the middle of the house, or get a digger and cut a neat square hole in the back yard, insert concrete beams one metre down, put in a strong roof and cover back with the dirt you dug out. (Standard Russian design, you can do this in 48 hours). put in a metal ladder and a steel plate hatch and two screened vents for air. Be careful of CO2 build up so may be a fan on a vent. If all this seems OTT then think if you carry an umbrella it won't rain? If you live near a strategic military base, MOVE. That is Navy Subs, missiles, air station or Army depot; all are likely targets as well as coms units. This is all common sense military thinking and was already put in place in Russia over two years ago with Govt. backing. There are still many old bunkers around for sale, buy one. Better yet have a bug out location miles away in the middle of nowhere and tell no one, as if you have good stuff your long time neighbour may want to share it with you if things get tough. The more you do, the more you protect yourself and your country. Don't be a soft target. Put computers,'cell phones etc in closed tin boxes as any EMP will cook them in a second. Earth the box with a wire to ground. Keep everything charged up. Expect high winds, heavy rain and possible seismic activity. THESE simple measures are all good for whatever; an attack, planet X, Solar flare! You name it. I have done all this in the past for a few hundred bucks. Insurance. Buy gold coins as ultimately that is real money, not fiat paper junk. Did you know that China and Russia have bought in 60% of the World's gold metal; don't buy gold certs as they are issued 60:1 leveraged.
Only buy food etc that you can use one day anyway. Only build structures that would be a useful underground garden shed !! This may all seem an over reaction but Russia did this two years ago.
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Not sure what to make of all this below. Is Russia just countering the failed intentions of the USA to start a pan European war to offset its internal US troubles or is this a real move to produce a military resolution in the troubled areas of Ukraine and may be Turkey/Syria. An analysis in progress. The data is unconfirmed but one notes that the countries advising stocking food/water/money etc are all near Russia. SO IS THIS A DRILL or more? Heads Up; data follows:-
"Russia Update: Now Mobilization of 300,000 Troops!"
"On Monday, August 29, we reported that Russia had mobilized Reserve Army Troops for the first time since the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia. Today, Tuesday August 30, we have found that the total mobilization is actually 80 mobilization brigades. About 10 tank brigades, 30 motor rifle brigades, 20 artillery and 20 other support brigades. So about 300,000 men. Our original story appears HERE.
SuperStation95 has reached out to our contacts in the Pentagon, The Intelligence Community and the State Department and the answers we're getting are very serious. According to the Pentagon, there has never been a mobilization like this in Russia before. The shear size of it is described by seasoned Pentagon officials as "staggering!" According to two separate sources in the Intelligence Community, various intel sources indicate the Russians intend to take action- but they are not certain if that action will be in Ukraine, Syria or... Turkey. The fear is that the size of this mobilization may mean "all of the above."
Our source in the Pentagon put it this way: "Russia has also mobilized divisions of the National Guard, and the NAF is mobilizing its reserves to go from 35,000 men to 95,000. Russia has assured this will be a coalition war by sending its CSTO allies to the Belarussian-Polish border. So that includes units from Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. When you count it all up, Russia and allies now have something like half a million men on alert opposite Ukraine, the Baltics and Poland. I've never seen anything like it.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-liberal/2016/08/russia-update-now-mobilization-of-300000-troops-2535975.html
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Third Official Country wide WARNING:-
NOW FINLAND TOO! Local Councils Warning Citizens "Stockpile Food & Water – Prepare" as US TANKS go on the move!
First it was Germany, last Saturday (20 Aug) which began warning its citizens to "stockpile 10 days worth of food & water." One day later, the Czech Republic warned its citizens "prepare for the worst." Now Finland is warning its citizens too . . . "stockpile large quantities of food and water, something bad is coming." The warnings are being issued word-of-mouth throughout Finland, and being done very quietly but quickly. Finland shares a 1300 mile border with Russia as shown at the link https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1884
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South Korean President Park Geun-hye has ordered the military to be in full combat readiness against emerging threats from North Korea. She said any more provocation from the rival North would lead to the "self-destruction" of the Kim Jong-un regime.
Park's warning has come amid instability in the Korean peninsula, which has been witnessing a series of aggressive acts in recent months. Tensions further rose in the region after Pyongyang blasted off a ballistic missile from a submarine on 24 August.
"I call on you to maintain a robust posture to retaliate... to make sure that any attempt by the North at engaging in any form of provocations will lead to the self-destruction of the North Korean regime," said Park on Monday (29 August), Yonhap news agency reported. She was holding a top-level meeting with government authorities over the situation.
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We are getting deeper and deeper into rock infested space and they only see this junk incoming with about three days notice. Are they going to tell you? Hell No; they just head for Denver !! Item:
On Saturday, astronomers discovered a new asteroid, just a few hours before it almost hit us.
The asteroid is called 2016 QA2, and it missed the Earth by less than a quarter of the distance to the moon. That puts it about three times as far away from Earth as our farthest satellites. And we never saw it coming.
Quote from: astr0144 on August 31, 2016, 12:08:42 AM
It does seem strange if there does not seem to be any clear reference to confirm this suggestion.
What suggestion? ???
QuoteThe Ex Agent has just posted this that if there is anything in it does seem more serious...
That "Ex Agent" appears to have be just another fear monger, that text is just fear inducing, based on nothing concrete.
QuoteThe German Army started drafting Doctors in today (30/08/2016).
Just because one person says so? I need more than that. Looking around I found that it looks like that "news" comes from this site (https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1912), where we can read a lie, that the German government issued a 69 page document to their citizens calling for the "immediate stockpiling of food and water". The fact that each time we read about it it looks worse is another clue that this is just fear mongering, I wonder with what purpose.
QuoteSo what justifies that? Lets make some basic analysis.
OK, let's do it.
QuoteObama tried to pull some stunts recently,
Examples? No, just throw some bait and wait for people to bite.
Quotehence the German/Franco/Italian high security meeting afloat. Yes !! Unusual.
So, Germany, France and Italy had a meeting aboard a ship. Yes, it's unusual, but where's evidence that they had the meeting aboard a ship because of something that Obama did? Let's analyse that? Oh, no, no real analysis here, let's just throw the word "analysis", as it gives this text a more serious look.
QuoteSo lets get basic. You can store dry food, canned food, ...
So, a list of the things someone expecting a war should do, but no analysis or even real data.
This "Ex Agent" is definitely on my fear monger/hoaxer/idiot list.
Edited to add that the superstation95.com site is also on my fear monger/hoaxer/idiot list. :)
QuoteI wonder with what purpose.
care to hazard a guess? :D
funbox
Quote from: funbox on August 31, 2016, 02:38:29 AM
care to hazard a guess? :D
No, I'm not a fan of guessing.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 31, 2016, 08:53:39 AM
No, I'm not a fan of guessing.
I thought it was all guessing ? :D
or quasi not
funbox
Quote from: funbox on August 31, 2016, 09:38:13 PM
I thought it was all guessing ? :D
or quasi not
What are you talking about?
(see, no guessing :P )
Quote from: ArMaP on August 31, 2016, 09:54:38 PM
What are you talking about?
(see, no guessing :P )
I guess you think you're getting an explanation
guess again :D
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I thought I was a bit mad. You two are no better!!! :P
Quote from: Pimander on August 31, 2016, 10:42:01 PM
I thought I was a bit mad. You two are no better!!! :P
was that a guess, at why Germans have been told to hoard ? or was that a guess at what ArMaP would say if he was good at guessing?
maybe ArMaP's crap at predictive reasoning based on multiple inputs, hmmm im guessing they'll be a patch soon
guesswho
Quote from: funbox on August 31, 2016, 11:01:42 PM
maybe ArMaP's crap at predictive reasoning based on multiple inputs, hmmm im guessing they'll be a patch soon
ArMaP is not a bot. He just likes to deal with facts (and good jokes). :)
And none of that was a guess.
The Germans were told to hoard by someone working to create fear and insecurity in the population at large, possibly as part of an intelligence operation. That is my guess.
Quote from: funbox on August 31, 2016, 10:26:28 PM
I guess you think you're getting an explanation
If you were a polite person I would think so.
Quoteguess again :D
No, I'll just ignore it.
Quote from: funbox on August 31, 2016, 11:01:42 PM
guesswho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PWcc3y_NlY
:)
See, at least as mad as me! Maybe we should start a site called www.thelivinglunatics.com?
Hi, Every one I ran across this article the other day, although I do not agree with the writers ideology , that is beside the point.
It does shed some light on where this subject got its start.
Stop the German Government's Preparations for War against Russia! "Civil Defence Concept" (KZV): Measures to Prepare Population for War
QuoteMany have responded with a mixture of surprise, shock and horror to the "Civil Defence Concept" (KZV) officially presented by German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière on Wednesday. Extending over 69 pages, it details a series of measures to prepare the population for a war.
Quote"One must pause for breath after reading these 69 pages," wrote the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on Monday in a preliminary report on the document, noting that it dealt with issues one would rather suppress.
"How to be protected against attacks using biological or chemical weapons? How will the population be taken to safety if a radioactive cloud spreads? Where will the federal government hide if an attack is threatened? Where will cultural treasures be stored in the case of war? How can men and women be made to report for work in 'sectors vital to life and defence?'"
These questions had to be asked, the newspaper stated, because it was necessary to "prepare for the worst."
You can read the rest here
http://www.globalresearch.ca/stop-the-german-governments-preparations-for-war-against-russia/5542466
I suspect Global Research is a Russian propaganda site. It's about as independent as RT (formerly Russia Today). ;)
Quote from: Pimander on August 31, 2016, 11:25:11 PM
ArMaP is not a bot. He just likes to deal with facts (and good jokes). :)
And none of that was a guess.
The Germans were told to hoard by someone working to create fear and insecurity in the population at large, possibly as part of an intelligence operation. That is my guess.
are you sure it wasn't a guess ?
I have old pictures :D
(http://i.imgur.com/dz6Tr3x.gif)
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Quote from: Pimander on September 01, 2016, 07:55:27 AM
I suspect Global Research is a Russian propaganda site. It's about as independent as RT (formerly Russia Today). ;)
Very possible Pimander, it is based out of Canada. It is difficult these days for one to pick their way through the Propaganda Mills of not only Russia, but also of Europe and the US. I suppose it just turns into a personal desire of which ""Slant" one wants to feed. But then, I read it all anyway , it does not mean that there are not any "nuggets" to be found.
Here is the original article site. I don't think that anyone can dispute that it is a Marxist site. But does not mean the time and place of the German Call to being War Prepared is in any way wrong.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/25/pers-a25.html
Quote from: Phedre on September 01, 2016, 03:06:39 PM
But then, I read it all anyway , it does not mean that there are not any "nuggets" to be found.
Agreed. Any source can be useful if you read with a critical eye. :)
Quote from: funbox on September 01, 2016, 01:47:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dz6Tr3x.gif)
Finally, a pic that isn't faked or Photoshopped in any way!
http://www.zerohedge.com/print/570335
So, Deutsche Welle is offering a helpful checklist of things to stockpile?
I find Russian news very useful in that they will report things that the Western media doesn't - particularly if it is negative in regard to US/EU politics. Sometimes, it goes beyond that - I was reading the latest news about McCain's primary battle on RT when it was happening while I couldn't find anything on Yahoo, Drudge or MSN.
Quote from: Pimander on September 01, 2016, 03:20:43 PM
Finally, a pic that isn't faked or Photoshopped in any way!
don't say that ! they multiply , take it back ,quick , before theres hundred of thousands
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it maybe too late
(http://i.imgur.com/caGzrUd.jpg)
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Funny how we still get only articles from before the document being published.
Now that we have access to the document we should have more sources pointing to all those things, right?
was close :D
*all clear*
(http://i.imgur.com/6P90q71.jpg)
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spoke too soon :D
(http://i.imgur.com/V8NDcTD.jpg)
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Again, Deutsche Welle seems up to date, current and fully running with the emergency stockpile story.
http://www.dw.com/en/what-emergency-supplies-do-you-need/g-19493942
Quote from: Eighthman on September 01, 2016, 11:18:17 PM
Again, Deutsche Welle seems up to date, current and fully running with the emergency stockpile story.
I didn't see any signs that that was published after August 25.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 01, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
Now that we have access to the document we should have more sources pointing to all those things, right?
True
http://www.dw.com/en/inside-europe-germans-urged-to-stockpile-food-and-water/av-19502825
seems to be 8-25-16. That's not good enough?
Quote from: Eighthman on September 02, 2016, 03:23:40 AM
http://www.dw.com/en/inside-europe-germans-urged-to-stockpile-food-and-water/av-19502825
seems to be 8-25-16. That's not good enough?
Not really, it's just some man talking to some woman (that, apparently, didn't know about this).
Unfortunately, as I don't speak German I cannot confirm some of things directly. I will check latter. :)
Here is another article from the BBC on the 22nd of August. It really does not say, much at all , just the "event happened" What I do find troubling in the other posted articles is the the hint that Germany is into rebuilding its army. I do not take even a hint, well. How soon we forget our past!
Germans told to stockpile food and water for civil defence
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37155060
I listened to the interview again, but this time I searched the document for things he talks about like "20 kg", "bred" and "carrots", and I couldn't find any of those words (in their German version, obviously) on the official text.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 02, 2016, 08:33:11 PM
I listened to the interview again, but this time I searched the document for things he talks about like "20 kg", "bred" and "carrots", and I couldn't find any of those words (in their German version, obviously) on the official text.
did you try checking the peculiar triangular sky monolith ? no stone unturned eh ? :D
(http://i.imgur.com/U7wPQwK.jpg)
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Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel admitted on live TV that multiculturalism is a "living lie"
Some further ref to Angela Merkel....
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are totally silent...
Germany's chancellor Angela Merkel has made herself famous for being a very outspoken supporter of bringing in as many Syrian refugees as possible, adopting a literal open borders policy...but she now regrets it big time and for good reason.
There have been thousands of sexual assaults and other violent crimes reported over the last year, with more happening al the time
The German people had apparently had enough of this rampant crime in Germany, because they just dealt a crushing blow to Merkel's conservative Democrat party and voted them out by a large margin. Merkel then took to the stage to backtrack as much as she could, citing that the migrant crisis could have been avoided, and that she regrets the mistake she made, also referring to multiculturalism as a "living lie."
According to the Daily Mail,
Speaking to the party faithful at its annual conference, she repeated her catchphrase from throughout the migrant crisis, 'we can do this', but effectively admitted Germany could only cope if she wrestled back control of the influx.
'A continuation of the current influx would in the long-term overwhelm the state and society, even in a country like Germany,' she said.
The leader, once known as the 'Iron Chancellor', won rapturous applause after announcing the volte face. However, she resisted calls to set a limit on the number of arrivals.
'We want to, and we will, noticeably reduce the number of refugees,' she told the conference in Karlsruhe. 'With an approach focused on the German, European and global level, we will succeed in regulating and limiting migration.'
Mrs Merkel attempted to defend her August decision, which drew hundreds of thousands to Europe, claiming it was a 'humanitarian imperative'. She appealed to the party's sense of history, saying that the same strength that allowed it 'to rebuild from the rubble of the war to create the economic miracle, and to go from division to a reunified country' would get Germany through the crisis.
She said she was banking on a multi-pronged approach to cut migrant numbers, urging bolstered protection for the bloc's external borders, support for Turkey to host refugees long-term and a long-shot bid for a distribution scheme among EU member states.
She also touted a range of measures already undertaken in Germany including speeding up the deportation of failed asylum applicants. Mrs Merkel, who has been the country's leader for a decade, tried to paint an upbeat vision saying it was no longer the 'sick man of Europe' and 'should be a country that is open, curious, tolerant and even exciting'.
If Barack Obama and his liberal puppets would open their eyes and learn from the mistakes of others the United States could avoid having the same regrets the Angela Merkel and other countries have.
Obama Totally Silent After Angela Merkel Admits Bringing In Refugees Was a Catastrophic Mistake
http://endingthefed.com/obama-totally-silent-after-angela-merkel-admits-bringing-in-refugees-was-a-catastrophic-mistake.html
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'I wish I could turn back time' Merkel finally admits she REGRETS open-door migrant policy
Following a devastating defeat in Berlin state elections today, Mrs Merkel said she accepted her share of responsibility for voters punishing her ruling Christian Democratic Union of Germany (CDU) party for her refugee-friendly migrant policy.
Speaking at a news conference in Berlin, she said: "If I could, I would turn back the time by many, many years."
The German premier admitted she could have been better prepared for the influx of migrants last year.
She added if she knew how people wanted her to change her migrant policy she would consider it.
And she admitted Germany had not been "world champions" in integrating migrants in the past, saying it would take time to integrate them.
Monday's defeat is the second in two weeks, with the Chancellor being defeated in her own constituency in the state of Mecklenburg-Western-Pomerania.
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Mrs Merkel said she wished she could turn back time to change her open-door migrant policy of 2015
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Sounding particularly conciliatory, Mrs Merkel added that if the wish of the German people was for the country not to be swamped with uncontrolled and unregulated migration "then that is exactly what I am fighting for".
Right-wing party, the Alternative for Germany (AfD), made big gains during the weekend's state elections as Germans reacted to Mrs Merkel's policy.
The German Chancellor said her party needed to reach out to AfD supporters and she is still motivated to lead the country and her party.
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Members of the AfD celebrated their win over the CDU in Berlin
She said: "Back in 1989, when the wall came down, it looked like we were on the right path, that everyone else just needed to imitate our model.
"But it turned out that it's not that easy.
"The saying 'we can do this' is part of my political work. I really don't want to repeat it anymore. Some feel provoked by this sentence but it wasn't meant that way.
"If people decide that they do not want to take in people of a Muslim belief then the constitution, the Christian values and my personal opinion will be opposed to that.
"I myself have also relied on the Dublin agreement for a long time, that, simply speaking, removed the problem from Germany.
"That was not good. And if I could I would turn back time for many, many years to be able to better prepare myself with the entire government and all those responsible for this situation that hit us when we were rather unprepared in the late summer of 2015.
"Since then we have tried with all our might to shape, organise and regulate and much has already been achieved with this, very much.
"Still, I am aware that many areas are still lacking."
Despite the devastating double defeat, the Chancellor said she had the "absolutely certain feeling that Germany will come out of this difficult phase better than it entered it".
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Mrs Merkel has faced serious criticism, with EU President Tusk blaming her for the migrant crisis
If I could, I would turn back the time by many, many years
Angela Merkel
Commenting on a recent poll showing 82 percent of voters wanted a change in her migrant policy, she added: "If I knew what change in policy people wanted, I would be ready to consider it and to talk about it."
"But the poll does not give any advice on that," she added.
A backlash against her migrant policy has raised questions about whether Merkel, Europe's most powerful leader, will stand for a fourth term next year. Given a dearth of options in her party, however, she is still the most likely candidate.
Asked whether she will run again next year, Merkel smiled and declined to comment. She said she was still motivated.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/712125/Angela-Merkel-admits-regrets-open-door-migrant-policy