Immaculate Deception

[A51Watcher]

If you time it right they will be close enough to throw a rock and hit.
Hey... it worked for me at least!   

So... you are claiming you dented one of their saucers and lived to tell about it? 

And you will have that footage available soon, yes?

[Irene]

Much of the darker CE3 stuff (abductions etc) seem to be related to the older folk lore type material and inter-dimensionals.  I'd say that is a no brainer.  But in the light of many facts I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is something quite remarkable hidden from us in this dimension... 

There is definitely research connected to CE3 contacts ongoing that I hope will see the light of day.  But like with the nuts and bolts craft, vested interests and money seem to be involved.  I say we scrap Capitalism.  Post Capitalism is long overdue. Is Money really worth this much? 

Disclaimer: Don't forget what I admitted earlier regarding disclosure....

I believe we're surrounded by Predator-type things. Not necessarily reptilian, or like the alien in "Signs", but operating in invisibility.

I've said it before in my posts and, again, it would explain a wide range of bizarre sh*t that happens to me and, incidentally, why animals seem to be looking at things that "aren't there".

More importantly, it would explain some of the things that happened at Skinwalker Ranch.

Most people are unable to suspend disbelief long enough to grasp what is very likely going on. They won't leave "the box".

[A51Watcher]

I believe we're surrounded by Predator-type things. Not necessarily reptilian, or like the alien in "Signs", but operating in invisibility.

I've said it before in my posts and, again, it would explain a wide range of bizarre sh*t that happens to me and, incidentally, why animals seem to be looking at things that "aren't there".

More importantly, it would explain some of the things that happened at Skinwalker Ranch.

Most people are unable to suspend disbelief long enough to grasp what is very likely going on. They won't leave "the box".

I came across a lot of good evidence of what you say Irene not only through media but reliable first hand witnesses locally.

Beings partially appearing before them in their homes and elsewhere. Sometimes just legs walking down the hall, other times just the torso on up. Sometimes lawn gnome creatures, sometimes greys.

Too much to go into right now, but it would seem to fit what you and Sky speak of in terms of possibly inter dimensional.

As far as 'animals seem to be looking at things that "aren't there" - 





Maybe they have Deuem vision... 

[Irene]

I came across a lot of good evidence of what you say Irene not only through media but reliable fist hand witnesses locally.

Beings partially appearing before them in their homes and elsewhere. Sometimes just legs walking down the hall, other times just the torso on up. Sometimes lawn gnome creatures, sometimes greys.

Too much to go into right now, but it would seem to fit what you and Sky speak of in terms of possibly inter dimensional.

As far as 'animals seem to be looking at things that "aren't there" -

Maybe they have Deuem vision... 

I very much appreciate the support, A51. 

Two true stories about my cats from years ago ~

1. I was standing in the dining room having just arrived home. I called my cats as I always do. They're trained like dogs, so coming when I call them is what they do, in fact, they come running.

Mrs., my brown tabby, came flying out of the master bedroom and came to a screeching halt and sank back on her haunches. Her pupils were huge and the hair stood up on her spine.

She bobbled her head, as animals do when they want to get a good look, then turned tail and slunk off quickly back to the bedroom.

Naturally, I turned around, but there was nothing there. I couldn't see it. She had though and, obviously, it wasn't something good, which fits the pattern of my contact experiences.

2. I was awakened in the very early hours of the morning by a sound in the living room. Mrs. had been sleeping right next to me, but she was wide awake. I started to sit up, but she stepped up on my chest and pushed me back down.

I tried to get up again and she pushed me back down. That time I stayed down. My cat had just freaked me out. A couple of minutes passed then she stepped down and laid down.

There's a lot more going on than we see. Fact.

[Pimander]

Whether you agree with the conclusions of the image analysis team, accept any pictures (even the ones from USAF gun cameras) - or not - I KNOW FOR A FACT some of these craft exist.

If you think we are making it all up then you won't accept it unless you see it yourself.  If you accept we are credible and believe us then you know it's real.  What does your gut tell you?

For me it is explaining it that is the interesting part.  There is no question the craft exist.

There is also no question the contact experiences are real. Again what they are experiences of is the interesting part.  Perhaps an even more interesting question is why certain people and families have the experiences and others never do.  If they are real surely those groups are important to look at?


ETA:  Almost anything can be faked using modern technology.  So the old evidence is actually incredibly significant in a way...  Also significant is that if we can fake this shit using modern technology than a lot of what we could see in the past might have been "faked" by "others" with similar technology.  So do we accept anything at all is real or not?

[A51Watcher]

Whether you agree with the conclusions of the image analysis team, accept any pictures (even the ones from USAF gun cameras) - or not - I KNOW FOR A FACT some of these craft exist.

If you think we are making it all up then you won't accept it unless you see it yourself.  If you accept we are credible and believe us then you know it's real.  What does your gut tell you?

For me it is explaining it that is the interesting part.  There is no question the craft exist.

There is also no question the contact experiences are real. Again what they are experiences of is the interesting part.  Perhaps an even more interesting question is why certain people and families have the experiences and others never do.  If they are real surely those groups are important to look at?


ETA:  Almost anything can be faked using modern technology.  So the old evidence is actually incredibly significant in a way...  Also significant is that if we can fake this poop using modern technology than a lot of what we could see in the past might have been "faked" by "others" with similar technology.  So do we accept anything at all is real or not?

Trust ol Pim to cut to the chase in any debate. Well said!

re: the conclusions of the image analysis team ... that is one point in question.

Since the results have been proven scientifically valid, what conclusions are to be drawn from the results?

As with all areas of new information, who do you consult for answers?

- Consult the experts in the field.

- Sort it out for yourself as best you can.

The conclusions I post from the image analysis team are a combination of both of the above.

I agree with the rest of your points. They mirror Zorgon's seething frustration with the continued coverup and self induced oblivion of others.

At least you haven't surrendered to the temptation to join Voltron's flock! (yet)   

[ArMaP]

Irene, those two stories reminded me of a short story from Neil Gaiman, The Price.

[Irene]

Irene, those two stories reminded me of a short story from Neil Gaiman, The Price.

I'm knitting right now, so I've only been reading replies in the forum as they hit my Inbox.

That being said, what I've told everyone at this forum regarding my experiences is true. I've never read any books by this man, Gaiman, because until now I've never heard of him. So I don't know what you're talking about.

Exactly what are you saying?

[Pimander]

Totally off topic but....

Don't forget, cats have long been regarded as supernatural guardians.  The Egyptian Goddess that protected the home was signified by the image of a cat.

Bast (later Bastet): As protector of Lower Egypt, Bast, she was seen as defender of the pharaoh, and consequently of the later chief male deity, Ra. Along with the other lioness goddesses, she would occasionally be depicted as the embodiment of the Eye of Ra. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastet

Later she was represented as a domestic cat.

[Irene]

Totally off topic but....

Don't forget, cats have long been regarded as supernatural guardians.  The Egyptian Goddess that protected the home was signified by the image of a cat.

Bast (later Bastet): As protector of Lower Egypt, Bast, she was seen as defender of the pharaoh, and consequently of the later chief male deity, Ra. Along with the other lioness goddesses, she would occasionally be depicted as the embodiment of the Eye of Ra. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastet

Later she was represented as a domestic cat.

I think there was a pretty good reason the Egyptians worshipped cats. They knew the little furballs were connected to another dimension.

[Irene]

Irene, those two stories reminded me of a short story from Neil Gaiman, The Price.

Okay, didn't notice you'd linked to the story. I can see similarity, but I wouldn't say it's the same.

I still feel compelled to defend my posts regarding my contacts. If anyone reads my posts concerning my contacts they'll see I'm very consistent in the details.

Respectfully,

Irene 

[ArMaP]

Exactly what are you saying?

I was saying exactly what I wrote that your stories reminded me of that story by Neil Gaiman, I was not saying that you copied his story or something like that.

Read the story and you will see that it's different from the ones you posted, but I think they share the basic idea, that cats see/know something we do not, and, in the case of the Neil Gaiman story, do more than we know.

[space otter]

I still feel compelled to defend my posts regarding my contacts.

well don't..
i haven't seen any one saying anything  and most of us here have stories of one type or another

critters, especially cats are remarkable   i would probably go with them before most humans..i would share with you some pics of my ghost cat but i don't know where it's at..i did post it on here once somewhere..sigh

just do what you can to protect yourself

[Irene]

I was saying exactly what I wrote that your stories reminded me of that story by Neil Gaiman, I was not saying that you copied his story or something like that.

Read the story and you will see that it's different from the ones you posted, but I think they share the basic idea, that cats see/know something we do not, and, in the case of the Neil Gaiman story, do more than we know.

Read my post right above yours, Turkeylips.

[ArMaP]

Read my post right above yours, Turkeylips.

I did, after making my post, as I ignored (as usual) that message saying that someone made more posts while I was writing.