Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Can anyone explain this please...

It Rained for the First time as a mist used to come up from the Earth, then condense into water
forming rivers and lakes, in the times before "Noah's flood" during the previous stage
of the Earths "Thermal Cycle", (the Cold Cycle) according to the writings.

Another interesting thing was, Color was seen for the first time also noted in the wrings..

Re. The "Rainbow" appeared for the first time, which was recorded as a covenant
between God & Man.

How does a meteor cause this ?

[undo11]

Yeah that is pretty cool! Theres always more than one way to skin a cat though right? I mean yes, you can do ANYTHING with just yer brain. But, you can also build machines/devices to do the same thing.

Funny, it seems like there are two schools divided. I like them both. Do I want to use my noggin to change the TV channel or pick up the remote? The wife and I would be in constant battle without the remote!

the epic of gilgamesh claims the earth was flooded by a weapon. it was simply called the flood weapon.

"Like a battle force, the destructive flood weapon passed over the people. No man could see his fellow, nor could people be distinguished from the sky. Even the gods were afraid of the flood weapon. "

[undo11]

Face of the Deep ?

Genesis Ch. 1 verse 2 ?

yep. the face of the deep is the super massive black hole that created this galaxy.  see:


that's the short version. the full version is on google video and is called supermassive black holes.  it's by the science channel.  they figured out the entire universe was created by super massive black holes.

[Captain Dave]

Can anyone explain this please...

How does a meteor cause this ?

Well, who wrote it? I mean no disrespect to the author, but one persons view of the world does not all things make.

I know many who have never seen the snow fall. If that persons writings were all that survived a catastrophe, then someone else might think that it had never snowed before their writings.

The amount of information a person had access to back then was limited and isn't quite the same as being plugged into the Internet for instance.

I believe some of the Hopi references to spirit kachinas are references to asteroids. So it's all in the description and the belief. Do you believe the Blue Kachina is a Spirit or just a rock? Perspective makes all the difference.

A flood could be viewed as a weapon of the Gods, especially if it is accompanied by thunderous sounds and tremendous wind.

Once again, a matter of perspective.

[undo11]

here's the full length

see this (if you haven't already)

[undo11]

Well, who wrote it? I mean no disrespect to the author, but one persons view of the world does not all things make.

I know many who have never seen the snow fall. If that persons writings were all that survived a catastrophe, then someone else might think that it had never snowed before their writings.

The amount of information a person had access to back then was limited and isn't quite the same as being plugged into the Internet for instance.

I believe some of the Hopi references to spirit kachinas are references to asteroids. So it's all in the description and the belief. Do you believe the Blue Kachina is a Spirit or just a rock? Perspective makes all the difference.

A flood could be viewed as a weapon of the Gods, especially if it is accompanied by thunderous sounds and tremendous wind.

Once again, a matter of perspective.

it's only viewed that way now because we assume the ancient people were stupid lol 

i don't think so.

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this guy talks about a reference in the book of enoch in which it's like so obvious enoch is seeing, first hand, a super massive black hole.  just listen to when he starts quoting the passages in enoch.  it's flippy as heck. 

[The Matrix Traveller]

Well, who wrote it? I mean no disrespect to the author, but one persons view of the world does not all things make.

I know many who have never seen the snow fall. If that persons writings were all that survived a catastrophe, then someone else might think that it had never snowed before their writings.

The amount of information a person had access to back then was limited and isn't quite the same as being plugged into the Internet for instance.

I believe some of the Hopi references to spirit kachinas are references to asteroids. So it's all in the description and the belief. Do you believe the Blue Kachina is a Spirit or just a rock? Perspective makes all the difference.

A flood could be viewed as a weapon of the Gods, especially if it is accompanied by thunderous sounds and tremendous wind.

Once again, a matter of perspective.

Makes sense to me, but was this the case ?

Just asking... 

[Captain Dave]

here's the full length

see this (if you haven't already)

Yeah, and each one of those galaxies is just a speck of dust! lol

[The Matrix Traveller]

Undo11

it's only viewed that way now because we assume the ancient people were stupid lol

i don't think so.

Bingo

You are onto it... 

I agree with you 100 % !

[The Matrix Traveller]

E' NOCH The 7th from A' DAM Not Enoch Cains son. was reported to write;

The Book of E' NOCH I-XXXVI Ch. 1 verses 05 to 07  Quote;

05. And all shall be smitten with fear,

And the watchers shall quake,

And great fear and trembling shall seize them unto the ends of the Earth.

06. And the high mountains shall be shaken,
And the high hills shall be made low,

And shall melt like wax before the flame,

07. And the Earth shall wholly rent in sunder,

And all that is upon the Earth shall perish,

Hmmmmm... "Rent in Sunder" ?

[Captain Dave]

No, no no, I didn't say the ancient people were stupid. Here's what I mean though... I can pick five people from my neighborhood right now.

One is 60 and worked as a fridge repairman

One is 23 and in medical school

One is 42 and works at a bait camp

One is 2 and is still in diapers

One is 74 and a wood worker

If a cataclyism were to happen right now and only they survived what would happen? What would they write? What would they base their writings on? None of them are dumb.

So it's all about Who survived and Who is doing the writing.

The experience they have in life is whats being brought to the table in their writing.

Oh and then let what they write simmer for thousand of years, let it be translated to other languages, let the Churches get ahold of it...

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enoch's saying, basically, that there are
2 columns that extended up and down from his position, to such height and depth that he cant see where they end and that they have heavenly fire on them. and are positioned above and below a deep pit that's just floating in space, and around which 7 stars are rotating, caught in the "prison" house of the stars. 

have you ever seen a diagram of the ergosphere of a black hole?  looks just like a giant eye.

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E' NOCH The 7th from A' DAM Not Enoch Cains son. was reported to write;

The Book of E' NOCH I-XXXVI Ch. 1 verses 05 to 07  Quote;

Hmmmmm... "Rent in Sunder" ?

boy i'd sure like to see that in the original language with a translation concordance!
that sounds like a huge ......well it sounds like an immense something comes down on the earth somewhere by mount sinai .  have any idea what the heaven of heavens is?  another interesting phrase

[hobbit]

Captain dave,
With respect.
You are repeating....that which You have been indoctrinated with.
You are assigning all consequences to that indoctrination.
Can You try to explain what creates the wind?
Instead of repeating that great winds did this or that.

Unless the basics are comprehended, then the consequences are easily misunderstood.
Beans is not the answer.
hobbit