Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Great Mystery can invoke Great Passion? Combined together with the Mystery that is our Creator? Our quest to find the right answer so we don't get into trouble? Fear of the unknown and our part in it?

Because society is perched on the edge, holding their breath, waiting for something bad to happen? Because word has spread throughout the concious world that something bad is going to happen? Because bad things have happened before and we don't want them to happen again?

I dunno, seems like there is alot of fear running around our world these days. No need for it though.

All I know is that I was created and I live. I have no fear because my Creator is with me where ever I am. There is nothing to fear, only more to learn. We will all go back to our Creator eventually - in fact we really never left. It's a fine Adventure!

Cheers!

Most Excellent Comments Captain ..

NO Truer Words, have ever been Written....

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damn, here come the nightmares!
LE

abaddon is enki, i do believe. he's the king of the abzu/abyss (the bottomless pit = abyssos, which is the abyss).   notice how he's following precisely what god says to do there? in fact, the things that come out of the gate, are also following god's orders.  it's a stargate opening.  and some of his buddies are coming for a visit apparently.  this is the thing. are you familar with david flynn's work?  if not, let me just say that he laid out a good case for interpreting why there are constellations mentioned in the text of revelation.  for example, the great red dragon is the constellation draco, who's tail marks one third of precession (in revelation 12 it describes the great red dragon's tail scooping up a third of the stars and hurling them to earth, because if you had a video of the precession of the equinoxes, this is exactly how draco would appear).  it's a clock (among other things) to indicate time passage.

sitchin said enki was dead and replaced by his son, who was replaced by his son, etc.  don't think so. if anything, these guys are body hopping. 

ever read the verse about the king of tyre?

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Love your Humor Captain...

Why are People SO Damn Morbid about these writings ?

how did i get morbid. i just quoted the passages exactly as they were written.  why do you leave out whole chunks of it?  a reason would be sufficient.

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p.s. i honestly don't believe the abyss is a woman's vagina or intestines or anything to do with a woman's body.   that's an insult to women.   yes it has a hole.  your skin is covered with tiny holes.  in fact, your body is mostly empty holes.  the abyss is a wormhole, not a dickhole.  excuse my vulgarity, it's just that sometimes, you just have to say it like it is.  the idea that the gate and the wormhole were deified, i've already shown you!   i don't mean deified in the sense of people worshipping their sex organs.  i mean deified in that the gate/abyss/abzu, was turned into living beings in babylon's stories, such as enuma elish and it's not true. the abzu was never a human or a god, for that matter.  translators and scribes who would encounter info on it, assumed that it was talking about sex. it isn't. it's not talking about sex or body parts or blood or special chemicals produced by a woman's body. 

if people would quit ignoring the sumerian-akkadian texts this factoid would be obvious.

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I have Past beyond what is described here.

well if you've passed beyond it, why do you keep using little parts of it to try to convince me that the abyss is a crack in the ocean floor that opens, lets water in, then closes, ejecting the water into the sky, when i just showed you the abyss (bottomless pit in that chapter) is not a crack in the ocean floor but rather a gated passage to some other place and from which beings come out?    instead of answering the question, you launch into a diatribe about how you're so much better than me because you've done other stuff such as attend the marriage supper and whatnot.  i don't mind if you done other stuff. that's great. but we aren't talking about other stuff at the moment. we're talking about the opening and closing of the abyss. 

i'm not letting you wiggle out of this.  hold still and answer the question. lol

[The Matrix Traveller]

how did i get morbid.

Did I mention you specifically  as Getting Morbid ?

I was actually generalizing regarding the human Species.

that the abyss is a crack in the ocean floor that opens

What is wrong with You ?

I have Never said that Quote;

that the abyss is a crack in the ocean floor that opens

You wrote... Quote;

p.s. i honestly don't believe the abyss is a woman's vagina or intestines or anything to do with a woman's body.   that's an insult to women.   yes it has a hole.  your skin is covered with tiny holes.  in fact, your body is mostly empty holes.  the abyss is a wormhole, not a dickhole.  excuse my vulgarity, it's just that sometimes, you just have to say it like it is.

What the Hell ?

What's your problem ?

I am merely sharing with you what was shown by "The LIGHT"...

I don't expect you to believe me but I have offered knowledge without expecting anything in return.

I give this freely as it was given to me freely by The LIGHT NOT by the human Species.

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Did I mention you specifically  as Getting Morbid ?

I was actually generalizing regarding the human Species.


What is wrong with You ?

I have Never said that Quote;

the deep is the abyss. the big abyssos on earth is in the water.  the abyss is where the fountains of the deep are. and what did you say the fountains of the deep were? didn't you say they were  cracks in the ocean floor, that opened, let water in, then closed, ejecting the water into the atmosphere of the planet. 

the deep = the abyss.
the fountains of the deep are the gated abysses of the deep.
they need keys to unlock them.  i know it sounds crazy!  but i'm telling ya, that's what the text says. 
what's the abyss? well it's the abzu.  what's the abzu? well it's where enki arrived from in his flying floating, submersible, metallic, roaring, glowing, temple city. 
don't blame me!  i'm just telling you about the parts you're ignoring.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Umdo11,

You are entitled to believe what ever you like, BUT I will believe "The LIGHT".

You wrote...  Quote;

i'm just telling you about the parts you're ignoring.

Sorry, False Judgement on your Part.

you wrote  quote;

ou launch into a diatribe about how you're so much better than me because you've done other stuff such as attend the marriage supper and whatnot.  i don't mind if you done other stuff. that's great. but we aren't talking about other stuff at the moment. we're talking about the opening and closing of the abyss.

So you belief is different from that which "The LIGHT" showed Me...

You believe in Flesh and I believe "The LIGHT".

So leave it at that... Because you are unable to make me turn away from "The LIGHT"
and Follow after You.

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Umdo11,

You are entitled to believe what ever you like, BUT I will believe "The LIGHT".

it's okay just answer the question.   if the abyss is in the ocean, what's it doing in a place where you use flashing images to see beyond your eye's visual range as something totally unrelated to cracks in the ocean floor?  i think you should fine tune your theory a bit so it coincides with the actual meaning of the words you're using in your flood theory.

[The Matrix Traveller]

it's okay just answer the question.   if the abyss is in the ocean, what's it doing in a place where you use flashing images to see beyond your eye's visual range as something totally unrelated to cracks in the ocean floor?  i think you should fine tune your theory a bit so it coincides with the actual meaning of the words you're using in your flood theory.

NO The Sea nor the Cracks are The Abyss.

You DO NOT understand what I had written at ALL.

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NO The Sea nor the Cracks are The Abyss.

You DO NOT understand what I had written at ALL.

okay.
well glad we cleared that up. it's not your problem, it's my problem.

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shared your "cracks" theory with my hubby and he commented that "dake" (a christian scholar) also said the same thing back in like 1949.  now i happen to think dake is pretty darn smart and has usually been right on the money regarding his take on biblical passages, however, i did note that he didn't seem to get the whole "bottomless pit" thing, and this seems to be a trend amongst bible scholars in general.  not many writers even bother talking about it, maybe because it sounds so odd.  it sticks out like a beached whale.  i personally avoided learning about it for 3 decades, because i didn't think there would be any further information to be had. boy was i wrong.

[The Matrix Traveller]

I'm old timer Undo11 been through Theology and Philosophy many many years ago.

But having Experienced Death and I mean death in the human sense. I was declared Brain Dead
which lasted longer than 30 minutes change ALL my thinking regarding What LIFE is.
What I experience4d was nothing at all like what has been taught by the human Species.

But because of this and what has been shown to me by LIFE through "The MAN Child" I have come
to Understand Clearly the Parable/s which have been used, to produce religions based on human
reason, and NOT "The LIGHT".

I just feel I have to reveal this knowledge NOT for myself as I am Nothing.

But why I reveal this knowledge, is my way of Thanking "The LIGHT" for gifting me
with this Knowledge and for the Experiences I have been Blessed with, in recent years
showing me, that the Universe ("Program") is full of so many different Civilizations
NOT of the Earth, they can't be numbered.

The human Species including the Flesh I wear, has to get over themselves, and Wake Up.

Get rid of the "Fear" introduce through the Churches and Turn back to LIFE and Trust "The LIFE of God", "The LIGHT".

There is NO "Fear" in LOVE.

Captain Dave Gave good advice, which I suggest should be taken Notice of and Acted on.

TRUST LIFE, "The LIGHT" of "MEN" and "WO-MEN".

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you mean, "hayah" and "chayah" don't you?   

cause you can't get "Wo-man" (which is ishshah) out of "Man" (which is adam), but you can get "chayah" out of "hayah"  or if you prefer "chavah" out of "havah."

still don't understand why you think it's okay to select only teeny tiny bits of the text and just throw everything else away.  that's gonna bug me everytime i see it. 

[Linda Brown]

Undo... you said...of Matrix

still don't understand why you think it's okay to select only teeny tiny bits of the text and just throw everything else away.  that's gonna bug me everytime i see it. 


Why does it matter what he thinks is OK?

The fact that counts is that you notice what he does. And you are responding to that. Where is that particular response taking you mentally?

Why does that set you up against him? Surely there is a way to respond to the gap that you see without letting it " get to you". 

How can you make yourself comfortable in new mental territory if in the back of your head you are trying to change HIS concepts of what is OK?

Just an observation from someone who gave up trying to figure out what REALLY happened in the long lost past a  long time ago. The only thing for sure is that all of those humans are long dead now....

What is it that you are learning from the experience you are having NOW?   

Just a question from the sidelines.   <g>   Linda