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Started by spacemaverick, January 30, 2020, 04:15:48 PM

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The Seeker

#30
Pakistan Today posted an article yesterday that stated they had a cure for covid-19, a drug called chloroquinine phosphate , and that the Chinese govt all but blocked shipments of it; this stated that this occurred around the first week of February...

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2020/02/22/akistan-provides-315000-effective-tablets-overnight-to-treat-covid-19-in-china/?fbclid=IwAR0tyhtExOlO4TQVcBZdkHHivLqpCiMIQ3uT-1S5mAPHDT0WeYqXqiMIk7s


My question is, if this drug is effective against the covid-19, why are the cases still increasing exponentially, and why has no mention been made of this treatment?

Oh, it is made by Bayer...

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micjer

Thanks for the link on this article from Pakistan.

I hope it is accurate, as a virus is hard to cure.  Usually a vaccine is the best defense, as antibiotics are useless.
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

ArMaP

Quote from: The Seeker on February 25, 2020, 12:44:54 PM
Pakistan Today posted an article yesterday that stated they had a cure for covid-19, a drug called chloroquinine phosphate , and that the Chinese govt all but blocked shipments of it; this stated that this occurred around the first week of February...
I doubt that works, as that's anti malaria drug.

Ellirium113

Some countries are treating it with anti-AIDS drugs...

QuoteAnchor: Some patients seeing eased symptoms from the novel coronavirus  are reported to have been treated with medication typically used for HIV/AIDS. This has been garnering a lot of attention from the public, and some are wondering if there is enough of the drug in the country.
Park Jong-hong reports.

Report: The medicine grabbing the world's attention is coformulated lopinavir and ritonavir, produced under the brand name Kaletra and others.

The medication has been used mainly for the treatment of HIV and prevention of AIDS.

South Korean health authorities say, however, they have seen success in treating patients of the novel coronavirus with the antiretroviral and flu medications.
http://world.kbs.co.kr/service/news_view.htm?Seq_Code=151108

Another vaccine being developed in Houston:
QuoteHOUSTON — The chief executive of a Houston-based genetic engineering firm said his company completed a vaccine targeting the current outbreak of the coronavirus that the World Health Organization calls COVID-19.
John Price, president and CEO of Houston-based Greffex Inc., told the Houston Business Journal that Greffex's scientists completed the coronavirus vaccine this week. The vaccine should now move to animal testing by the necessary government agencies — in the U.S., that's the Food and Drug Administration. Countries impacted by the outbreak, like China and Vietnam, have their own agencies with their own clinical testing regulations.
https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/hbj-houston-genetic-engineering-co-completes-coronavirus-vaccine-ceo-says/285-6dcbb988-286f-4ba5-8b98-b68dc5385c49




astr0144

#34
In my past I was often too busy to really look into past similar viruses in any detail...or become aware of details..

but just being now older and noting some of the things on the news and how quickly changes are seeming to occur..
and having had quick look at some posts and some Alex jones...

This could have some real challenges and very fearful issues occur to what the authorites are going to ask the public to do.

then theres the conspiracy of is this when they start rounding us up in Fema type camps and prison type zones on huges scales to put the fear of god in us all or see a big part of the population off...

At the moment I really fear for the stock market unless it manages to recover .to new highs in the next month or so...

Otherwise if it does not recover initially for me by March... I fear a crash...and mass panic...

Are they going to be suggesting Forced inocculation and vaccines..

I was surprised to learn how in many certain areas of some of the technology they they have put in place that I was never aware of in airports and other places of high risk areas...

HOW does MAN continue on when almost / NO I should say .... every day  ...theres some concerning news ..
that is either health concerns / environment or wars to be put on us..

one just has to try to blank things out to try to  maintain ones sanity..

In the Uk I get impression that they maybe over reacting and putting severe fear into us via the media...
and making quite extreme suggestions..so .early on..

Is this thing for real or is some of it being made up to effect us in what ever way the powers that be may have decided to plan for us ?




micjer

Nice to hear from you Astro...

I am having similar thoughts to you about this whole thing.


Here are some of my questions......

What percent of people that contract the disease, end up dying and how many make a recovery?

Can you be a carrier and show no symptoms?

How many people die from just the "ordinary" flu?   If there is such a thing any more>

If the release of this flu from the P4 lab in Wuhan was on purpose, what is the goal?

How does it compare to the 1918 spanish flu?

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

In searching for answers I stumbled on to info of the Spanish Flu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu


Did not know that the swine flu of 2009 were both H1N1 viruses.

The 1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920; colloquially known as Spanish flu) was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic, the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus, with the second being the swine flu in 2009.[1] It infected 500 million people around the world,[2] or about 27% of the then world population of between 1.8 and 1.9 billion, including people on remote Pacific islands and in the Arctic. The death toll is estimated to have been 40 million to 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history.[3][4] Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemic's geographic origin.[2]
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on February 27, 2020, 12:17:22 PM
What percent of people that contract the disease, end up dying and how many make a recovery?
From the last numbers I saw in Portuguese media, from a total of 82,000 infected people, 2,800 died, a 3.4% mortality rate. Of those infected, more than 33,000 recovered.

QuoteCan you be a carrier and show no symptoms?
Probably, I think that happens with all variations of virus infections.

QuoteHow many people die from just the "ordinary" flu?   If there is such a thing any more>
Apparently, only in the US, around 80,000 died of common flu in the 2017-2018 season.

QuoteIf the release of this flu from the P4 lab in Wuhan was on purpose, what is the goal?
I find it more likely that it was spread by someone with the intention of hurting Chinese economy, so I doubt it was release on purpose by the Chinese. If it was released on purpose at all.

micjer

Thanks for the answers.

Here is an interesting link.....

Woman in Japan contracts disease for the second time.

..... and summary of how disease started in Canadian lab and stolen by spys and taken to China.


https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/02/27/coronavirus-infects-woman-for-the-second-time/


Specifically we start at Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg, and with Scientific Director Dr. Frank Plummer...On May 4, 2013 the Novel Coronavirus arrived at the Canadian lab in Winnipeg.


con't on link

The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

micjer

Now if there are any folks thinking this is fake news or a conspiracy theory here is an article from 2013 saying that Canada had coronavirus back then.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/health-headlines/canada-s-national-lab-has-sample-of-new-coronavirus-1.1281929
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

astr0144

Looking at what the stock market has JUST done this last 2 weeks...

It seems to me as if this crash...is really quite severe..in short time...

its almost fallen to the low s made in June 2019....by 16.66 %...

crashes in the past have fell 16% a few times in the past..

but this one maybe one of the sharpest quickest...

I PREY this HOLDS...

becuase I REALLY think if it breaks below that level... we could see a 1929 styple crash where it goes down 50% of its value...

ie from a high of 29570  to around 15000... in a month...

that I suspect could be absolutely devastating..

although the 2008 / 09 crash did similar but over 18 months...and amazingly recovered

1920 crash took 25 yrs to recover... as it continued down much further from for 2 to 3 yrs ...from  1929high  to 1932..low


I do think we may see a recovery back up to th USA elections.. with severe volitility and within a range of the last month...

Just have to see if mkt holds...this next few weeks..





Quote from: micjer on February 27, 2020, 12:17:22 PM
Nice to hear from you Astro...

I am having similar thoughts to you about this whole thing.


Here are some of my questions......

What percent of people that contract the disease, end up dying and how many make a recovery?

Can you be a carrier and show no symptoms?

How many people die from just the "ordinary" flu?   If there is such a thing any more>

If the release of this flu from the P4 lab in Wuhan was on purpose, what is the goal?

How does it compare to the 1918 spanish flu?

Sgt.Rocknroll

My two cents....

I think, and I'm probably wrong, but I believe this latest health scare, and I think that's what it is, will pass.
Just like the swine flue, H1N1, Ebola.... etc, etc, etc

The markets will adjust, not without some fallout both economically and politically.
But it will return stronger....

I'm not saying people in crowded cities shouldn't take precautions, but it is what it is...
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ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on February 28, 2020, 01:47:26 PM
Now if there are any folks thinking this is fake news or a conspiracy theory here is an article from 2013 saying that Canada had coronavirus back then.
Coronavirus is not a specific virus, it's a type of virus.

QuoteCoronaviruses are a group of viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds. In humans, coronaviruses cause respiratory tract infections that are typically mild, such as the common cold, though rarer forms such as SARS, MERS and COVID-19 can be lethal. Symptoms vary in other species: in chickens, they cause an upper respiratory tract disease, while in cows and pigs they cause diarrhea. There are yet to be vaccines or antiviral drugs to prevent or treat human coronavirus infections.
Source

spacemaverick

It seems A PATTERN IS HERE:  And I can't remember when regarding the anthrax issue.

SARS - 2004

AVIAN - 2008

SWINE - 2010

MERS - 2012

EBOLA - 2014

ZIKA - 2016

EBOLA AGAIN - 2018

CORONA - 2020
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

Sgt.Rocknroll

In 1976-77, we (US Army) we're forced to receive the swine Flu vaccine. It was experimental at the time. The chief of staff remarked the only side effect was a tendency to screw in the mud. The CINC was not pleased.  ;D
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