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Started by spacemaverick, January 30, 2020, 04:15:48 PM

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spacemaverick

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 29, 2020, 01:54:05 PM
In 1976-77, we (US Army) we're forced to receive the swine Flu vaccine. It was experimental at the time. The chief of staff remarked the only side effect was a tendency to screw in the mud. The CINC was not pleased.  ;D

Oh my goodness....that cracked me up!
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astr0144

Yes there is a chance that the markets may go right back up...even o new highs...

I have NEVER  known February to be a month when markets have a major crash...

but there is always the 1st time ...

I did think if they were going to fal it could have been between Oct and Dec 2019...

and the next main cycle that I thought maybe 2021.... and still possibly 2020..

there was a decline in yr 2000 of 16 % on the Dow... and there are 20 yr cycles that repeat...

hence we have just seen it occur...

Around Mar 4th to 8th may see the start of a reversal if it declines again Monday  next week...is my guess based on my cycle work...





Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 28, 2020, 11:13:08 PM
My two cents....

I think, and I'm probably wrong, but I believe this latest health scare, and I think that's what it is, will pass.
Just like the swine flue, H1N1, Ebola.... etc, etc, etc

The markets will adjust, not without some fallout both economically and politically.
But it will return stronger....

I'm not saying people in crowded cities shouldn't take precautions, but it is what it is...
8)

astr0144

#47
Sorry tried to ammend my post but missed the deadline as I got distracted...

Yes there is a chance that the markets may go right back up...even to new highs...

I have NEVER  known February to be a month when markets have a major crash... I think in the past either early year decines have been January or March...as in 2000

but there is always the 1st time ...

I did think if they were going to fall it could have been between from Sept / Oct and or Dec 2019...

and the next main cycle that I thought maybe 2021.... and still possibly 2020..

there was a decline in yr 2000 of 16 % on the Dow... and there are 20 yr cycles that repeat...

hence we have just seen it occur...

Around Mar 3rd /4th to 8th maybe some other pivots around 16th  may see the start of a reversal if it declines again Monday  next week...is my guess based on my cycle work...

IF it tops around Mar 3rd.... after a rerally...which it started to attempt in the last 15 to 20 mins on Friday..

I am quite fearful it may well decline quite severe again..maybe to a 20 to 30 % decline from the 29570 top..

Its maybe the biggest weeks decline ever.... the higher the Markets go...usualy the bigger declines..
so 16.66 % decline from the recent highs are much bigger than when markets were at lower highs back in 2000 and 2007/8/9

this is the years chart... a LONG slow move up from low in Dec 2018



this is the last 12 months



this is last 10 days




this was last day on 28th where you see a pull back in last 20 mins...

It has Not as yet hit the target I expected but it was within 50 points..

so it may try for another low on Sunday or Monday  (Mkts on Futures open late sunday 23.00 hrs  UK time )




https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=djia


GOLD made new highs to 1680 on 24th Feb and fell to 1580 last week...




I wrote a post back in July / Aug for Zorgon suggesting it may rally ...so far its been a good move up..

It sadans me he is was not able to of acted on it and prosper..






Sgt.Rocknroll

Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

petrus4

#49
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 28, 2020, 11:13:08 PM
My two cents....

I think, and I'm probably wrong, but I believe this latest health scare, and I think that's what it is, will pass.
Just like the swine flue, H1N1, Ebola.... etc, etc, etc

The Corona flap is like every other.  It's a panic believed in and propagated by idiots who don't think critically. 

The psychopaths who engineer these things always follow the same modus operandi.  They don't want them to be sufficiently lethal or virulent that they genuinely lose control; they just want the virus to kill off a few thousand members of the elderly with already compromised immune systems, and that by itself will reliably cause a stampede within the proverbial mindless herd.  Then you get Boris promising to shred whatever small pretense of political freedom still hypothetically exists in the UK in order to combat it, and the French government doing the same.  Mission accomplished.

QuoteCoronavirus Cases:
86,993

Deaths:
2,979

Recovered:
42,360

Source.

That's pretty much all you need to know.  A disease with well under 100,000 global cases, less than 3,000 global deaths, and roughly a 50% recovery rate.  From what I've read, the virus is like HIV, in the sense that it doesn't even kill people directly by itself; it complicates into secondary pneumonia.

If you want to be terrified, at least be afraid of something that actually matters.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

petrus4

A little more analysis on Corona, if you're interested.  Again according to [this](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/), while the linear curve still looks scary, the logarithmic curve for the number of deaths is already starting to flatten; the keypoint or 50% point was back at the beginning of February.  Of all closed cases, the mortality rate is also only 6%.

This is an empty story, people.  A panic which will ultimately go nowhere.

One of the most important characteristics of being a conspiracy theorist, is learning to discern which conspiracies are actually worthy of your time; and this one is not.

As they used to say on Slashdot...

"Nothing to see here.  Move along."
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

kevin




Hope You are all well?, and see the funny side of that.
They sure can control the masses with a dose of fear.

Kevin

petrus4

One (possibly last, but no guarantees) other general point, here.

The more deadly a virus is, the more rapidly it is guaranteed to burn itself out.

This is because a virus which kills its' host very quickly, is a virus with a much smaller chance of spreading to another host, before its' existing host dies; in which case, the virus itself dies with it.

A good example of an intelligent, stable, and therefore successful virus, is the UNIX operating system.  UNIX was invented in 1969, and is (at least to my knowledge) the longest lived computer operating system in continued operation.  UNIX is starting to lose its' edge to a degree at this point, because a lot of Linux people are removing or diluting its' key evolutionary advantages; but the point is that as a virus, UNIX has survived for 51 years, for two main reasons.

a}  It has a relatively low barrier to entry.

Again, modern Linux distributions are destroying this advantage, but the earliest versions of UNIX ran on a computer with similar capacity to the Commodore 64; a computer so named because it had 64 kilobytes of overall memory.  For those of you who don't know, that's a small amount.  There are either recent or old Linux distributions in existence, which can run at just about every computer power or performance level in existence; from the IBM XT or 286, up to mainframes.

This is an ideal characteristic for a virus.  A virus which wants to survive, needs to be able to spread itself to as many different hosts as possible, because the greater number of hosts it has, the less chance it has of becoming extinct.

b}  Even more than not being detrimental, it offers actual benefits to its' host.

Although, again, this characteristic is currently being lost to a degree, for a long time the various UNIX strains (Linux and the BSDs, and earlier the commercial versions) were generally the most robust and stable operating systems in existence; infinitely moreso than Windows, and this was true while being small and efficient, and thus maintaining the low barrier to entry already mentioned.  As a result, it was very desirable in environments where guaranteed service was needed, for a very long time.

Smart viruses operate according to the principle of mutual benefit.  The cleverest and most successful viruses, are those which are sufficiently beneficial to their hosts, that we don't even classify them as viruses at all; because we normally only associate the word "virus" with an entity that is parasitic or non-reciprocal.  Granted, to a certain extent I'm being metaphorical here, and Armap will no doubt helpfully remind me of what the strict biological definition of a virus is, and how what I am talking about does not meet that definition; but my point still stands.

Any virus which is lethal must, by definition, eventually cease to exist.  It might take a while, and it might take an unspecified number of people with it; but if it kills its' hosts, eventually it will find itself in a situation where there are no other hosts available, so when its' current host dies, it will die with it.  Stable viruses are non-lethal viruses, because being non-lethal allows a large number of hosts to co-exist at once, and also allows said hosts to reproduce, so that new hosts will become available.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

micjer

This whole thing may be totally overblown, but the power of fear is showing itself this am with stock markets crashing, price of oil plummeting and 16 million people quarantined in Italy.




The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

petrus4

Quote from: micjer on March 09, 2020, 06:11:45 PM
This whole thing may be totally overblown, but the power of fear is showing itself this am with stock markets crashing, price of oil plummeting and 16 million people quarantined in Italy.

That is exactly what they want.  Broccoli was unavailable at the local supermarket last night, for the first time in my life.  Not just unusually expensive; simply not there at all.

The virus itself hardly needs to do anything, in reality.  All they need is a couple of news reports, and then fear will do the rest.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

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micjer

What is the reason for such fear this time????

Now all of Italy is in lockdown....



The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

petrus4

Quote from: micjer on March 10, 2020, 04:01:02 AM
What is the reason for such fear this time????

That is the one question here, which I think is genuinely interesting.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

spacemaverick

Quote from: petrus4 on March 10, 2020, 07:01:02 AM
That is the one question here, which I think is genuinely interesting.

It seems this is the question on a lot of minds.  Our attention is being diverted for some reason.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on March 10, 2020, 04:01:02 AM
What is the reason for such fear this time????

Now all of Italy is in lockdown....
Italy has the worst mortality rate, at 6.22% today.
It's also the country with the highest percentage of people infected, with 167.9 cases for each million.