The Center of the Universe

[rdunk]

From "The Gospel of Thomas"

Thanks Matrix, but I will refrain any comments on "The Gospel of Thomas" "scripture", as for me it is very questionable relative to content and sources. Just too far out into left field for me to feel comfortable with it. Seems to be a lot of dispute regarding most aspects of it. It seems to be pretty much mostly only some sayings attributed to Jesus??

But, if it is something you like and trust, then use it!

[The Matrix Traveller]

Its Not a mater of Trust...

It is Historical writings...  Thats All.

Jesus made no mention of the Kings James version or any other bible.

But He did make mention of "The BOOK of LIFE" which is NOT the Bible !

He made No mention of the Roman Church neither did he tell us to run out and buy a bible.

Funny that... However I do question the Human leaders of the churches of the flesh.

On the other Hand, I Do NOT Question The LIGHT (LIFE).

After having been dead according to medical staff, for a period longer, than 30 min
(the fist time in 1973) I have a little insight to that which is NOT of the flesh.   

[rdunk]

THE TRUTH ABOUT SCRIPTURE: Gospel of Reality

Pimander, can't you just tell us how you REALLY FEEL about this?? No reason for you to keep it to yourself!! 

Seriously I do respect your opinions. zorgon does tell us that if there are thoughts we are not interested in, he says we should just stay away from them. I have tried that, and works well for me!

[Pimander]

zorgon does tell us that if there are thoughts we are not interested in, he says we should just stay away from them. I have tried that, and works well for me!

Oh, I am interested in the effects of scripture.  I am interested in reversing the effects.  I want people to think and experience the spiritual for themselves. 

[rdunk]

Matrix - "But He did make mention of "The BOOK of LIFE" which is NOT the Bible" !

Yes you are right about that, and it also is not a book of scripture. The Book of Life" is the book the Lord will use on the day of "judgement".

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their work

Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[zorgon]

Hi zorgon, I just noticed this is my #400, thanks to you!!

Your welcome..

And do not take anything said as an attack against you... we merely don't agree

From what I have seen, he is a very cruel entity. Gets mad really easy at his 'children' and throws tantrums when they dare question him.

"Thou shalt have no other God before me"

Well if there is only one god, then isn't that a moot point? Seems the jealous type to me

And I always had an issue with that whole garden of Eden thing where the Reptilian chats with Eve (like it was natural talking to Reptilians back in the day). So this Reptilian convinces Eve to eat that fruit and Mankind gets Knowledge... something the bearded guy wants to withhold from us (sounds like the PTB)

Then when He finds out, he throws a hissy fit, kicks everyone out of Paradise to some Desert in Iran/Persia and makes Reptilians the bad guy.

The reason? because they might have eaten that other secret fruit and become like the 'gods' and live forever

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

So here we have a problem... seems there are more than one 'god' and they sure as hell don't want us to be likr them and live forever (that is why 95% of our DNA, 'our tree of life') is inactive 


I have more but a short intermission... though still on topic

I think this covers it very nicely  and Kirk gets zapped by lightning for daring to ask a question 

What Does God Need With a Starship?

[zorgon]

LMAO

Hallowed are the Ori 

[Amaterasu]

I'm with You, Pim.  Having had a most profound experience, Myself, I highly recommend such experiences, on a personal level, to everyOne.  I cannot say My experience is one that "fits all," nor do I say My experience is the only truth out there.  All I know is that it was/is right for Me.  It gave Me a perspective I would not have had otherwise.

"Know Thyself."  [smile]

[The Executioner]

What Does God Need With a Starship?

Or a flood,
or plagues,
or a book to tell you what IT wants?

God doesn't need any of these things.  People who want to control you tell you God needs them.....

ANY QUESTIONS FOLKS?

[zorgon]

Matrix - "But He did make mention of "The BOOK of LIFE" which is NOT the Bible" !

Agreed St Peters Book of Life is one of the few things we agree on.

From yahoo answers... to show public opinion

What's the name of St. Peter's book?
St. Peter stands at the gate of heaven, allowing people to enter should God see them fit. I remember hearing that they sign their name in a book. Does anyone know what the book is called? Thanks!

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
"Fairy tales for the uninspired"

okay so much for public opinion

Better answer;
The Book of Life, but that whole story is just an allegory. St. Peter looks in the book to see if their name is already written there.

Rev.3:5: "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire (Rev. 20:15)

Another reply, less eloquent;

"They don't sign in. They are looked up in the Book of Life. If they aren't in it, they don't get in."

Now see? Here again is where I have a problem... 

The Akashic Record, the real Book of Life, holds everything and everyone. There is no 'good old boys' club that leaves you out of eternity because your name is not in the book

As far as I am concerned, the Biblical 'book of life' is an adapted version of the Akashic Record that was twisted to place the fear of god into followers

Why does god need people to fear him? What's up with that? More and more sounds like the PTB.. Maybet that is why the slogan of the US is 'In God we Trust' and the slogan used by the Brits is 'God save the Queen, and Hitlers army marched under 'Gott mit Uns' (God with Us)

Always loved that prayer  "The Lord is THY Shepherd, Thou Shall not Want..."  yeah good little sheep, the Church will tend their flocks

So if ones name is not found written in the book of life you get  cast into the lake of fire?  Wow that guy sounds truly evil in my opinion

Why would I want to "WORSHIP" a deity that gets angry, needs me to bow down to him, wants me to fear him, and from time to time destroys the world on a whim because some people didn't feel like doing it his way?

And more to the point, why bother making us have a mind to think for ourselves, if what he REALLY wants is Lemmings?

And WHY did he need to make mosquitoes, brown recluse, scorpions and a host of other nasty critters? Heck even HE didn't want to take to many of those on that ark

[Shasta56]

I believe the book of life corresponds to the akashic records.  I haven't moved a cup across a table using my mind, but I have lifted a 180# man off a table using my mind.

Shasta

[zorgon]

Jesus made no mention of the Kings James version or any other bible.

He made No mention of the Roman Church neither did he tell us to run out and buy a bible.

But he did say this (well at least they claim he said this) Since the Bible is 'Gospel' then this must be what he did say 

Mark 4:11 - - -

He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables

Luke 8:10 - - -

He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, "'though seeing, they may not see; though hearing, they may not understand.' 

And today we are seeing exactly that in all the world religions. They read the words and pick and chose how to interpret them but they don't really know. That is why we have a thousand religions today

In that context he is speaking as an Esoteric Master to his pupils, a true Secret Society of the "Twelve Around the One".  Many people miss that even new age seekers, but t is so very important to note that he was ONE with 12 disciples

The Movie Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had the 12 crystal skulls

It is very hard to find the data these days I notice Wonder why? But this is where the movie got it from

Crystal Skulls - Sacred Geometry


"Twelve Around the One" from Sacred Geometry

Twelve around the One - The Mirror of the Sacred Zodiac

We will cover this topic in the Sacred Geometry section of our website, but as this item came up during a search for crystal skulls, it is worthy of mention here. When we have more direct info on the relation of the skulls we will add it here.

[zorgon]

I believe the book of life corresponds to the akashic records.  I haven't moved a cup across a table using my mind, but I have lifted a 180# man off a table using my mind.

Shasta

  Now THAT conjures up an interesting image LOL


Levitation of Saint Francis (circa 1640)

What I find amazing is that in Early Christianity the ability to levitate was a gift from God and they were made saints... then during and after the infamous Inquisition suddenly it was witchcraft and the work of Satan to fly

How does it go from being a gift of God one day for thousands of years, to being the work of Satan almost overnight?

Did God write a new book somewhere I missed?


St. Joseph of Cupertino, The Flying Frier


Jesus Levitates on Water
List of levitating saints

    Saint Alphonsus Liguori
    Saint Archangela Girlani
    Saint Catherine of Siena
    Saint Francis of Paola
    Saint Francis Xavier
    Saint Ignatius Loyola
    Saint John Bosco
    Saint John Joseph of the Cross
    Saint Martin de Porres
    Saint Michael Garicoits
    Blessed Miguel Pro
    Saint Paul of the Cross
    Saint Peter Claver
    Saint Peter of Alcantara
    Saint Philip Neri
    Saint Teresa of Avila
    Saint Thomas Aquinas
    Saint Seraphim of Sarov

The Original Flying Nun

Saint Teresa of Avila



Teresa of Avila: The Progress of a Soul
Cathleen Medwick

Teresa of Ávila


Then suddenly, like someone threw a switch, the art of levitating or flying became a thing that Witches and Warlocks did, to be cured by burning at the stake 'Ye sahll not suffer a Witch to live..."

What happened?

[zorgon]

ANY QUESTIONS FOLKS?

Yes... just one...

Are YOU the New World Inquisition?



{{{Quicky hides behind a big rock}}}

[Littleenki]

Argh! The King James bible? Now I wont sleep all night thinking of that brain child of the Church of England!

And as for any churches or religions, they arent necessary to understand what is there for the taking and learning.

Everything in any bible from whatever time is basically a newer version of the last, twisted and contorted into whatever is the need of the time.

Cults.

A book of metaphors is what we get from the Church of England and the Catholic religion, and to look closely at the words within them shows us that many of the wonderous characters were just names used to tell stories which have been passed down from millenia ago.

2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also has made us able ministers of the new testament, not of the letter but of the spirit for the letter kills but the spirit gives life.

Acts 7:48 The most high dwells not in temples made with hands.

Luke 17:21 The Kingdom of God is within you.

It is not in a church or a religion.

It is within you.

Everything in the Bible is a mythological study of the human mind and body.

1 Corinthians 3:16 You are the temple of God. For the temple of God is Holy which temple you are.

More symbolism? How about a 90 year old woman who gets pregnant?

Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory for these are the two covenants.

A quote from Bill Donahue....

Here we are told that the story of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar, is an allegory.

It never happened.

Of course it never happened.

90 year old women don't have babies.

It is a symbolic story.

Here the Bible doesn't just comment on the Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, story.

It says, "which things are an allegory", meaning stories such as this in the Bible are symbolic.

It goes right along with the warning to all of us not to take scripture literally, when it says be not a minister of the letter.

So, where could that center of the universe be?

Look inside yourselves! There it is!

Cheers!