No War? Something Is Wrong

[Eighthman]

Talk about a 'disturbance in the force' !   

Where's WW3?  Threat, threat, threat.  Israel, Iran, Israel, Iran, Threat, threat, threat - and still no war.

How many years will this go on?  The PTB seem to want a war but suffer from martial erectile dysfunction.

My point is: this endless threat and delay suggest that the Illuminati/Cabal/PTB aren't all that powerful.  Something is killing their 'schedule' - aliens, perhaps?

This continuing situation should provoke skepticism about various insider testimony, nicht wahr?

[Primus58]

Be patient, they're not done looting yet!

[Littleenki]

Hello, 8thman!
So, we havent seen the war yet, but we are seeing the work up towards the inevitable, and with all the hubub around Washington and the Middle East, that inevitability seems quite strong.

What we arent seeing though is the lead up attacks and Arab spring type behaviour which usually signifies the flaring anger which makes war the "only alternative". Right now the election is too close, and any war or action would throw a wrnech in the gears and as the repubs think theyre on cruise control, and the democraps think theyve got it in the bag, neither will make the move.

That doesnt say we havent contracted with some black ops to assasinate the right person over there, or drop the right b-o-m-b on the right city though, so as we do here on PRC...keep vigilant and trust no leader, or gubmint, our own included!

I think this time the possible war is to distract from the bankers making their last ditch effort to take control of the worlds economies, and a war would throw a wrench in their gears...so it's a matter of who pulls the pin first I guess.

Watch the Rothschilds and Soros...and keep an eye on Turkey and Syria...lots of tension there.

Ive heard some disturbing stuff from Turkey, and a friend there, he says that the military is quite jumpy right now...so we shall see.

Cheers!
Le

[micjer]

For most of us in the world, there doesn;t appear to be a war going on.  However people in Egypt, Lybia, Syria, and other countries in the middle east, might be thinking otherwise.

Kinda like Hi tler at the beginning of WW2.  Small steps of takeover before the world decided to step in.  This time however who is going to stop them if the alies are the ones working for the bankers.

I do agree that there seems to be a lot of war and fear mongering, for all that is happening,

You know what really scares me is the ignorance of many who think that Iran is so evil that the only answer is too "nuke them" .  I read this on bottoms of articles that talk about the evil nuclear program that Iran has.  Power of the media and the stupidity of the readers.

[sky otter]

My point is: this endless threat and delay suggest that the Illuminati/Cabal/PTB aren't all that powerful.  Something is killing their 'schedule' - aliens, perhaps?

perhaps that 'something' is more someones..as in a number of humans who do not want to see this planet  nuked again..
perhaps you are correct in that they are not that strong

yes there is a distrubance in the force.. the fight right now is not in 3 D.. it's above and it's for our very exisitence..perhaps even our souls...
so i would say pick a side or hide...

don't waste your time talking about it.... work to prevent it by lining up your energy with positive things..war is not what we need right now
love ~ truth ~joy....those are the things to be sought

try some unexpected kindness to strangers and see how your thoughts change to saving this world
not waiting for it to be blown up by the nasties

we are awesome and blessed..but we need to work to keep a balance in the force...
balance is the key for now

sorry about the soap box.. you got me with what sounded like an enthusiasm for war
and that's when i do this...

[Littleenki]

Thanks Sky, kind thoughts from the kind Otter!

It is all about positive support for the collective, and every time we seek or question negative outcomes, it reinforces the whole of things into creating negative results.

I dont think 8thman was trying to push for war, or even suggest its on its way, he was just wondering why the negative outlets who have been trumpeting the war to come have been wrong.

If anything watch the least obvious places for tidbits of truth...the bankers, and the Iranians wont be the first indicator, although they are the first one we look to when it happens.

If it does happen, Im moving where you are for some of those nice tomatoes I know your hoarding!;)

Some in gubmint want war, some dont, hopefully we see the donts overwhelm the do's.

Cheers!
Le

[sky otter]

LE

you are a smart guy
you hafta know  that ultimately it is us..we..you and me who will decide the outcome
our energy and thoughts are so powerful and yet they are left most of the time in y/our back pocket..
my phrase of sitting on my assets..lol

i wasn't picking on 8th man but the heading on the thread really hit a nerve...

so you got my ego  part on the old..

8th ..big hugs to ya
and how about a rephrase to
no war.!!!!  something is right..



oh LE.. i'm giving the dang tomatoes away as fast as i am able..but folks ar now hiding when they see me.. it's almost as bad as having zucchinnis
91 pints of juice and i quit..

[Littleenki]

Oh Sky, if I had that superluminal saucer, Id be there now..well before now;)

Christine makes Zucchini bread with dark chocolate...Mmmm!

8thman, you may get hungry hanging around us here!;)

I like when you get on that soapbox! It awakens the sleepers out there!

ill be visiting the Gaia tonight after my nightly Bonacci video, so see ya there!


Le

[rdunk]

Where's WW3?  Threat, threat, threat.  Israel, Iran, Israel, Iran, Threat, threat, threat - and still no war.

The record of the last century is pretty clear - - Israel has done, and does what it thinks necessary for their survival. The record is also very clear that in doing what they do, they have had considerable "supernatural help" in completing their missions.

The second "record" I mentioned, some of you may not know about, but there is much personal direct account testimony relative to the specifics of numerous instances of supernatural intervention in battle, some since 1947.

When it comes to the safety of Israel, don't worry, for it will be "politics be dammed", and "full speed ahead", to whatever/whoever the threat might be. Israel has made it very clear by past action, that they are going to do whatever is necessary, for their people, and for their country.

And I would say "woe be it" for ANY COUNTRY who might venture into trying to wipe Israel off of the map". Me thinks that to be a "suicidal plan", for they are not in this alone!

[zorgon]

Where's WW3?  Threat, threat, threat.  Israel, Iran, Israel, Iran, Threat, threat, threat - and still no war.

WWIII is not good for business. The current situation however is...

We sell them weapons of war, pit one against the other then turn on them and blow up all we sent them. The area is also a marvelous venue for testing all those drones and super weapons ..

Then we send in Halliurton to rebuild their bombed out cities and they pay for the rebuilding with their oil...

How many years will this go on?  The PTB seem to want a war but suffer from martial erectile dysfunction.

The Arabs and Jews have been fighting it out in that region for over 2000 years... And the Christians got into it too because they think they own Jerusalem as well (Crusades, Templars, Knights of Malta  etc) It's in our best interest to keep them at it...

And when they are not fighting each other than Ortodox Jews are attacking Zionists, or trying to erase the Palestinians off the face of the Earth...

Suni attacking Shiites...  or trying to erase the Kurds off the face of the Earth...

Nothing has changed there for over 2000 years except the weapons they use. Reagan sold Saddam the gas he used on the Kurds and we sold him top of the line fighter jets and trained his pilots to fly them when he was our friend against Iran.  We DIDN'T sell hime the maintenance or train the pilots to fight... so all the plannes were on the runway when we turned on him and we blew them all up like ducks in a pond

My point is: this endless threat and delay suggest that the Illuminati/Cabal/PTB aren't all that powerful.  Something is killing their 'schedule' - aliens, perhaps?

No aliens... you forget that not ALL Illuminati work for the Dark Side... currently the two sides are still more or less equal... if they weren't we wouldn't be on the internet. The problem is that the Dark Side is working in the open, while the Light Side is still mostly secret

Don't forget that 'someone' recently made Morgan Chase pay 83,000,000.0 fine for bad market dealings...

This continuing situation should provoke skepticism about various insider testimony, nicht wahr?

Most insider info is deliberately leaked propaganda Always has been... because no true insider will ever truly leak anything. The consequences are just too high..

Oh sure little stuff like diplomatic gossip lke the Wikileaks cables.. or who is sleeping with who... but rarely anything solid with proof

As far as Iran goes? Don't forget that they once were the Persian Empire... the one truly awesome society where everyone was well treated and rich... until Alexander the Not so Great decide to just burn it down...

Something they neglected to tell you in History class in School...

And Iran wants that back

[zorgon]

And I would say "woe be it" for ANY COUNTRY who might venture into trying to wipe Israel off of the map". Me thinks that to be a "suicidal plan", for they are not in this alone!

Well Orthodox Jews say that a State of Israel is against the Torah and should be disbanded

[petrus4]

Where's WW3?  Threat, threat, threat.  Israel, Iran, Israel, Iran, Threat, threat, threat - and still no war.

The record of the last century is pretty clear - - Israel has done, and does what it thinks necessary for their survival. The record is also very clear that in doing what they do, they have had considerable "supernatural help" in completing their missions.

I refuse to believe that Yahweh is a mass murdering psychopath, personally; or that he assists or condones such.

I also refuse to believe that Yahweh is a sadist of sufficient magnitude that he would be willing to lock humanity in a horrific, deterministic closed loop (as described by Biblical eschatology) from which there is no escape.

Christians and Jews apparently are not capable of realising just what an absolute monster God would have to be, in order for the scenario that they believe in, to actually exist.  The first thing any person who leaves Semitic monotheism, but wants to remain a theist has to do, is to discover experientially that God really is Love.  There isn't simply a scenario where that statement is given in one place, and then made an absolute sick mockery of, within the rest of the theology.

Jesus was right when he said that some among the Jews set rods for men's backs, and slam the doors of heaven in their faces; and the main way that they do that, is by depicting God as someone who any sane, principled, genuinely compassionate human being, could not help but regard with utter revulsion and loathing.

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
-- Jeremiah 31:33, KJV.  Emphasis mine.

Stephen Fry, an atheist, has expressed that he knows far more about the genuine will of God, as far as I am concerned, than the majority of Semitic monotheists that I have seen.



This is why anti-Semitism exists, and why such rage towards Christianity exists.  Most have not identified the cause consciously.  I have.  It is not, as these two groups claim, because they remind people of the supposed truth; but because they isolate people from God with lies, and they create cognitive dissonance whereby individuals feel that the only way that they can do, think, or feel, that which they know to be right, is by supposedly (but not, in fact) rebelling against God.

Benjamin Netanyahu is a psychopath.  The Zionist Ashkenazim are psychopaths.  Any Christian who views the rest of humanity as expendable, relative to Israel, is a psychopath.

Most of the Jewish population who exist outside their government, however, are not psychopaths, as indicated by Israel Loves Iran.

Yahweh is not a psychopath.

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
-- Isaiah 1:18

20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.

23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD, which am but dust and ashes:

28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.

29 And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake.

30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.

31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty's sake.

32 And he said, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.

33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
-- Genesis 18, KJV.  Emphasis mine.

"Understand, then, that it is not because of your righteousness that the LORD your God is giving you this good land to possess, for you are a stiff-necked people."
-- Deuteronomy 9:6.  Yahweh's opinion of the Jews, in his own words.

Jesus Christ is not a psychopath.

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.  By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
-- John 13:34-35

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!"
-- Matthew 23:37, KJV

The Zionist minority's general war against the rest of humanity, is irreconcilable with the concept of divine love.  You defile the nature and reputation of God by claiming otherwise.  I will not tolerate it.  I have said before, that I have taken oath before Michael that I will not hate Israel; but if she insists on doing that which is wrong, as a Gentile, I will take her own scripture, and I will use it to tan her hide.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
-- Isaiah 5:20

[rdunk]

FWIW........................Petrus, it makes no difference what you "believe", it is what God says and does that is all in all. Yes, God is "love", but he is also  "just", and he will do what he says he will do.

Absolutely no one, knows the mind of God, but we can "know" him in his Word. But for anyone to say "I don't believe it", about anything that is said in the Word about God, is on prrrrrreeeeeeetttty shaky ground. 

And quoting scripture won't change that! Even satan knew God long before man did, and he "knows" the scripture - - satan even tried/tempted Jesus with scripture, to no avail. 

God is God, and he will do as he pleases, and all that he does will be in accordance with his Word! As I said, it makes no difference "what we believe" in that regard!

[petrus4]

FWIW........................Petrus, it makes no difference what you "believe", it is what God says and does that is all in all. Yes, God is "love", but he is also  "just", and he will do what he says he will do.

Don't bother trying to give me that argument.  Christians often do, and it doesn't do anything other than annoy me.  You are attempting to claim that your own opinion here, is an absolute.  It is not.

Your only theological basis for claiming that the Israeli government's desired genocide of its' neighbours has divine sanction, is:-

a}  Precedent in terms of Canaan, and Israel's initial settlement. 
b}  The depiction of Israel being opposed by the rest of the planet in Revelations.

There is a vastly greater theological basis for being able to argue that genocide is not sanctioned.

And quoting scripture won't change that! Even satan knew God long before man did, and he "knows" the scripture - - satan even tried/tempted Jesus with scripture, to no avail.

This is another standard Christian argument.

Premise A:-  Satan knew the Bible.
Premise B:-  I disagree with/don't like the argument that you're using scripture to support.
Conclusion:-  Your argument is Satanic, and so are you.  You are now supposed to be infused with sufficient guilt, shame, and fear, that you will immediately stand down and desist for engaging in further argument.

Again, this is an extremely old and tired tactic, and you're going to have to do much better. 

God is God, and he will do as he pleases, and all that he does will be in accordance with his Word! As I said, it makes no difference "what we believe" in that regard!

Translation:-  God is a hypocrite, who will, if he pleases, break the rules which he has given us wholesale, at any time when it proves convenient.  We are simply to tolerate this, because might makes right, and he is much more powerful than we are, and his instruction to us is given on the basis of, "Do as I say, not as I do."

Game, set, and match.

[Eighthman]

I must say that I am surprized by the divergence of opinion here and the degree of Bible quoting I observe. 

I'm not eager for war - I'm just puzzled by the endless delay of what some think to be inevitable. Perhaps it isn't inevitable - I think the PTB may have adopted an Israeli idea to break up troublesome Arab nations into eternally warring factions and keep them out of trouble that way.

If I come across a little odd in the sentiments I express, it's probably because I was a bit Asperger's in my youth and it still takes some effort to fit in.  I call it learning "Emotion As A Second Language".

I am  utterly amazed by one thing: that No One seems to observe the critical problem posed by Islam, as a threat to the entire world, namely suicide bombing.  Put increasing technology into the hands of these people and the world ends, period.

If you can get young men with engineering degrees and all the opportunity that entails ( booze, drugs, sex, a good life) to blow themselves up, civilization ends. This hit me like a ton of bricks after 9/11 and I sincerely believe it is THE explanation ( that can't be discussed openly) that explains why we keep invading and fooling around in the Muslim world - as well as why the PTB elected a 'kinda, sorta, Muslim' President to office.