The Day Before Roswell

[zorgon]

Phil obviously pi$ed some one off tho.

He pissed ME off with that stupid Corbomite Maneuver
But no I didn't sanction him, 

[A51Watcher]

I think Sinny has forgotten that military testimony about Roswell came AFTER they were no longer in the military.

...and that I am ex military also.


I guess that makes my testimony unreliable as well.

Good thing that there are plenty of civilian witnesses to the event eh?


I will leave it to readers to decide who is telling the truth, those that bother to actually examine the evidence that is.

I have created several more 1947 sorts of similar characteristics that are enlightening as well, but this exercise has become redundant at this point.

[A51Watcher]

I would say:
You just can not ignore this.

I would agree Lunica.

Yet some still manage to. 

[Pimander]

Do you know why?

Why?

[Pimander]

I guess that makes my testimony unreliable as well.t are enlightening as well, but this exercise has become redundant at this point.

I have worked for the UK government and almost certainly will be needed again.  My testimony is 100% bang on the real deal.  Sinny, who do you work for.

[ArMaP]

Why?

For the same reason cyclists follow each other, the one in the front creates a slight vortex that makes it easier for the one behind him, and after some time they change places. In the case of the birds it's probably because of the movement of the wings to each side making the same effect for the ones behind and to each side. For birds that fly long distances that makes a big difference.

[zorgon]

For the same reason cyclists follow each other, the one in the front creates a slight vortex that makes it easier for the one behind him,

And Race Car Drivers too... it's called "Drafting"

[zorgon]

Has anyone considered that this flight of saucers came from the direction of a then secret air base in Canada (Alberta)?  The same air base where when rumors of NAZI saucer work being done there caused them to release the Avro to the press?

Curious huh?

[A51Watcher]

Has anyone considered that this flight of saucers came from the direction of a then secret air base in Canada (Alberta)?  The same air base where when rumors of NAZI saucer work being done there caused them to release the Avro to the press?

Curious huh?

Sure why not?

So you're saying it was the US invading itself for most of the year from bases in Canada with NAZI ufo technology?

Good PR to scare the Russians and they have been doing so ever since.

[onetruekeeper]

The Avro was never in development to be a flying vehicle in my opinion. It is nothing more than a experimental hovercraft meant to skim over a surface at only a few feet off the ground. Anything released by the government to the public is all PR dis-information. So if you are a UFO enthusiast please consider ALL government sources ( documents or former employees ) of UFO info as BOGUS. Why waste time chasing dis-information when there are more credible sources out there?

[RUSSO]

ALL government sources ( documents or former employees ) of UFO info as BOGUS. Why waste time chasing dis-information when there are more credible sources out there?

I think you are generalizing too much.

When it comes to information TAKEN (not offered by free and spontaneous will, but for freedom of information acts done by civilians) from military, I can say that although I recognize that there may be some misinformation, there are spectacular cases where you can glimpse some truth in the ocean of lies we live on.

There are cases were people paid with their own lives regarding their mouths opened.

So... we have to be careful when we say "ALL bogus" because, personally i believe there is no such thing as absolute truth.

There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths.
       – Friedrich Nietzsche: Human, All-too-Human

[zorgon]

Good PR to scare the Russians and they have been doing so ever since.

True enough the Avrocar was a publicity coverup  LOL When the press got wind of secret tests on saucer type craft at that Canadian/US base... they wheeled out the Avro and said "Yup we are... here is what we have so far"



Everyone had a good laugh at the silly little hovercraft and the press went away.

Base commander says "Well that was close, but seems they bought it"



Meanwhile....


Tighten the strap on your tinfoil hat: Recently declassified documents show that the US Air Force was working on, and perhaps had already built, a supersonic flying saucer in 1956.

The aircraft, which had the code name Project 1794, was developed by the USAF and Avro Canada in the 1950s. One declassified memo, which seems to be the conclusion of initial research and prototyping, says that Project 1794 is a flying saucer capable of "between Mach 3 and Mach 4," (2,300-3,000 mph) a service ceiling of over 100,000 feet (30,500m), and a range of around 1,000 nautical miles (1,150mi, 1850km).

Project 1794 front coverAs far as we can tell, the supersonic flying saucer would propel itself by rotating an outer disk at very high speed, taking advantage of the Coand? effect. Maneuvering would be accomplished by using small shutters on the edge of the disc (similar to ailerons on a winged aircraft). Power would be provided by jet turbines. According to the cutaway diagrams, the entire thing would even be capable of vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL).

[Sinny]

A51, the people within the military that I commented were key international 'movers and shakers, and were embedded in 'alternative ideolog'y.
My comments on 'who do their actions serve' does not relate to the majority of the military force - who are for all intents and purposes, pawns in the game.

Zorgons presented the line of thought of which 'you guys' in turn seem to be turning a blind 'eye'.

[ArMaP]

And Race Car Drivers too... it's called "Drafting"

Car (and moto) racers used it to gain a speed advantage over the one(s) in front, not as a way of using less energy.

[A51Watcher]