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Started by johnlear, December 08, 2011, 05:41:12 AM

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deuem

I don't remember where I got this gif but it is not my work. The Barycenter gif.

Deuem

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on June 03, 2012, 02:35:30 PM
In a case like this, should the barycentre be used instead of the centre of the Earth, as that is the real centre of gravity of the Earth/Moon system?
This definitely needs more attention.  Don't forget, I know nothing. ;)

deuem

I took a look into the Barycenter and all the information on line is based on a moon Earth average with calculations provided. This wobble as they call it has also been said to be true by looking at the stars. They said it creates a 6,000 mile window for where they are.

The average Barycenter point is at 4,671 km from the center of the Earth to the moon. This puts that point inside our planet. So if you draw the earth moon at the average and put them on a seesaw this is what they call the balance point of weight.

On my work done to date. It will affect a lot of it. Most of all the Apsides line will be much shorter, by over 9,000 km and the Apsides center to the earth center will change depending on the Earths wobble for that day and the overall ellipse I drew would be smaller.

Even though all of that would change and need updating, the distance I posted for 19.5 should remain basically the same. Juts the position of it would be in further but also the Earth would be too.

If someone wants me to redraw the model with the exact bary points included I will need the bary point distances for Apogee and Perigee to make it work.

I am guessing that if you know the balance point of the 2 objects, you could give a number to Earth weight and figure out the moons weight. Then, maybe extrapolate a gravity number from this. I wonder if this is how they got the 1/6th gravity for the moon.

Deuem

1Worldwatcher

Has this thread died or is there something else happening? I do see that the topic was side tracked, but there is no current information with some of the Sgt.'s reviews and no John lately, weird..
Well, hopefully we can get back to the topic at hand and get on with the "Far Side" information, I am awaiting for more input and videos Sgt., Maybe the moon landing thing can get placed somewhere else, not saying it doesn't deserve the effort put into it thus far here, in the "far Side" thread, but should be transported to another thread entirely.
Hoping too hear from you researchers for the "Far Side" theories soon, been a while since anything was posted as new 'Possible' evidence...

1Worldwatcher
"To know men is too have knowledge, to know self is to have insight."

Sgt.Rocknroll

I'm here! I haven't heard from John in awhile. No replies to my emails or comments on the last couple of vids. I chaulked it up to him being busy with other things. I too would like this thread to be about 'Farside' info. But hey thats just me.
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

1Worldwatcher

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 23, 2012, 06:52:09 PM
I'm here! I haven't heard from John in awhile. No replies to my emails or comments on the last couple of vids. I chaulked it up to him being busy with other things. I too would like this thread to be about 'Farside' info. But hey thats just me.

Nice too see you here Sgt.! Was hoping that we could get back to the Farside research, as for John, he has some issues with his back, had surgery and such, is in a lot of pain as far as I can deduce, so , might be a minute or two before he gets back here.
With the pic's you have, was there anything else that you have found thus far? I am curious for the "Clearer Picture Resolution" hopes, but I understand, you have to work with what is laid before you.
I have spoken to Deuem and he has much needed insights for this thread, he has an uncanny ability to work with numbers and seems as if we may be able to start doing the math for the objects or anomalies youhave found so far, as far as sizing and geographical comparisons of the locations. Would have to think there would be some kind of common denominator for all the thing's you have found so far. Not sure what ties it all together, but there has too be some kind of sense too be made from the chaos of the structures/Anomalies at hand.
What do you guy's & gal's think?

1Worldwatcher
"To know men is too have knowledge, to know self is to have insight."

Linda Brown

I just wanted you guys to know that I really enjoy reading this thread but have not responded for the simple reason that I have absolutely no experience or expertise to offer.

Just saying that no word from me does not translate disinterest in what you are talking about here.... just lack of experience.   Linda

Pimander

I hope this thread continues.  We have been side-tracked by the Moon gravity debate which is relevant as it effects what we observe regarding the Moon but not what the original purpose was.

Show me a building or what looks like one.... Go on. ;)

ArMaP

Quote from: 1Worldwatcher on June 25, 2012, 12:54:33 PM
Nice too see you here Sgt.! Was hoping that we could get back to the Farside research, as for John, he has some issues with his back, had surgery and such, is in a lot of pain as far as I can deduce, so , might be a minute or two before he gets back here.
I hope he gets well soon, if there's something I hate it's pain, and nobody needs that.  :(

Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: ArMaP on June 26, 2012, 12:16:26 AM
I hope he gets well soon, if there's something I hate it's pain, and nobody needs that.  :(

Ditto... I didn't know John had surgery...I certainly know what that's about...I was wondering why he hadn't responded to my emails, cause he's always been a gentleman and responded quickly and kindly...Hope he's feeling better soon....
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

zorgon

Quote from: deuem on June 03, 2012, 04:17:35 PM
I don't remember where I got this gif but it is not my work. The Barycenter gif.

Deuem

Have you seen this effect yourself or are you taking NASA's word?

Hey can any of you wizards tell me where L1 is located based on Jon's gravity figures?

Thanks :D

zorgon

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 26, 2012, 12:45:52 AM
Ditto... I didn't know John had surgery...

Surgery was a while ago but still on meds and he sleeps a lot. Just got off the phone with him so he is alive, just not kicking :P

1Worldwatcher

Absolutely guy's and Gal's, hoping John has a quick recovery as well, know that the Med's can do as much damage as good when coming to potential strength of such things.
And Deuem, ArMap, the question Zorgon laid out on the table, can we answer this or not? L1 Question.
And Sgt. great too see it is all good , hope to hear from you soon as well.

1Worldwatcher
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johnlear

Sgt:

Sorry for not answering your email. I have been very tired for the past year and for the past 30 days have been fighting and infection in both feet. I damn near lost my right leg last week; it turned completely black with extreme pain and open wounds on my ankles that would not heal.

I finally went to another doctor on Friday and he discovered that I had not been prescribed antibiotics with the mass of other meds I am taking. By this morning I was well on the way to recovery for the infection.

But for the past year I have just been sleeping a lot. Every couple of weeks I will sleep 4 days straight except for a pee, water and fruit.

I had a back operation about 4 years ago and I really never totally recovered.

The pain was one big pain in the butt.

I sleep in the den right next to my computer and TV. When I wake up I'll feel all charged up for about 5 minutes and then am overcome with overwhelming exhaustion. And barely make it back to the couch to sleep some more.
I am hoping to make it to my 70th birthday which is on December 4. Should be no problem. I'll just sleep  until then.

Anyway thats why I have not been posting although I post a little on GLP but should be moving over here totally in a couple of weeks.

Ron, I need you to move the lunar gravity discussion to a new thread "Is the Gravity of the Moon really 70% that of Earths like John Lear says?" We will let 'buildings' stick with buildings.

Back to sleep...I'm exhausted.


zorgon

Quote from: johnlear on June 26, 2012, 02:59:22 AM
Ron, I need you to move the lunar gravity discussion to a new thread "Is the Gravity of the Moon really 70% that of Earths like John Lear says?" We will let 'buildings' stick with buildings.


Can do  but I will have to study how it effects the posts when I split it

As to the black legs and open ulcers... I know all about that  :(