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Started by johnlear, December 08, 2011, 05:41:12 AM

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hobbit

Quote from: Captain Dave on December 12, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
So can we figure out the Phase/time differential between Earth and Moon and then use a computer controlled digital telescope to view the moon in sinc with earth? Sort of a multi-dimensional viewing port hole. lol

Howdo?
If You puzzle out how the system of universe operates, instead of been hampered by little Earth thinking, then YES.
hobbit

Ellirium113

#31
QuoteSo can we figure out the Phase/time differential between Earth and Moon and then use a computer controlled digital telescope to view the moon in sinc with earth?

You mean like recording it with a high speed camera and slowing it down to 30 frames per second??? What makes you think the moon is out of sync? If that were the case how do you know you would even see it at all?  ::) How do you know it is not your conciousness that is out of sync with the reality perceived?  :P

Are we trying to compare the speed of light to the speed of conciousness here?

I don't think there is anything preventing us from taking perfectly clear hi-res images of the moon (technologically speaking) except for the will of those with the equipment to release the images.


johnlear

Quote from: hobbit on December 12, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
Howdo?
If You puzzle out how the system of universe operates, instead of been hampered by little Earth thinking, then YES.
hobbit


(1) Do you believe that Newton's Second Law F=Gm1m2/r^2 is valid?

(2) Have you read my 15 page essay on Debunking Einstein?

Thank you.

sky otter

 ???

John and those of you posting some moon images..
could i respectfully make a request, please

for me and maybe  other optically impaired by scale  or other things

could you who are posting and know stuff. please consider the novices in here
and add maybe one or two more pieces of info

i can see faces in trees, images in rocks, info in the earth air..so i am not calling false any who see things i don't
but , damn it , i am  mostly at  a loss to see what you guys do
so could ya just put a little more info with the pics....
pleasssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

thank you

starwarp2000

In the newly released ART OF THE HOBBIT, J.R.R. Tolkien's original artwork for the HOBBIT is on display and bears and uncanny resemblance to the Lunar Landscape and the odd/anomalous/artificial looking moonbases/buildings that have been making the rounds on the web for years.

http://io9.com/5855406/art-of-the-hobbit-never+before+seen-drawings-by-jrr-tolkien

What do you think John?  ;D
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

johnlear

Quote from: sky otter on December 13, 2011, 01:37:33 AM
???

John and those of you posting some moon images..
could i respectfully make a request, please

for me and maybe  other optically impaired by scale  or other things

could you who are posting and know stuff. please consider the novices in here
and add maybe one or two more pieces of info

i can see faces in trees, images in rocks, info in the earth air..so i am not calling false any who see things i don't
but , damn it , i am  mostly at  a loss to see what you guys do
so could ya just put a little more info with the pics....
pleasssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

thank you



I'll put some more info but it won't help. I have been looking at moon images for 22 years now and things just leap out. It doesn't come easy or quickly. I know the near and far side of the moon as well as I know earth. You can show me  partial segment of any place on the moon and I can tell you where it is. But, as I say, it takes hundreds of hours looking at the photos. But when you first catch something that is obviously man-made is a chilling thrill.

One night I was over at Zorgons house looking at AS8-12-2209 and he started picking out a road, then streets lights, then a town square, then a parking lot. It was really spooky. It didn't take Zorgon hundreds of hours, he picked it up very fast. He was the first one to catch on to the Copernicus photos which showed the huge ramp on the side of amount and then the bucket wheel excavators. He is the one who picked out the 'keep' with the buildings an roadways.

Once you see your first image it is addicting beyond all possible belief. Until then it is just faces, numbers, straightlines and rocks.

Sgt.Rocknroll

When i did my first atempt at modeling the spaceport, all i saw was the spaceport. Now that i have a better pic, i'm starting to pick out more and more items. Sometimes it's hard to get your head around that there are actual structures and constructs on the moon. For me it's taken awhile, but i keep going back for more. I'm having a great time. Beats modeling piping systems, wellheads and caverns ( my day job).
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

Lunica

Quote from: johnlear on December 13, 2011, 04:11:03 AM


I'll put some more info but it won't help. I have been looking at moon images for 22 years now and things just leap out. It doesn't come easy or quickly. I know the near and far side of the moon as well as I know earth. You can show me  partial segment of any place on the moon and I can tell you where it is. But, as I say, it takes hundreds of hours looking at the photos. But when you first catch something that is obviously man-made is a chilling thrill.

....

The same drill on Mars images. And I agree, the first time to hit "the jackpot" yourself, its a chilling thrill:)

hobbit

Quote from: johnlear on December 13, 2011, 12:58:36 AM

(1) Do you believe that Newton's Second Law F=Gm1m2/r^2 is valid?

(2) Have you read my 15 page essay on Debunking Einstein?

Thank you.

Thank You for "thank You"
No to both points.

I consider that all so called movement is actually switching in a solid universe.
That mass is created by the accumulation of multiple memory fields that compound into their dominant memory field.
The moon is such and is within the memory field of the earth, which is within the memory field of the sun.

Those memory fields are dual whorl toroidal shaped with polarity and equator.
It is those fields that produce the relative to each field electromagnetic and electrogravitic occurances.
All fields interact with all other fields and cause local variations in each relative to the complex positionings of each, thus the tides and the mythical effect called gravity.
All vision is via those fields, and there is no light speed as such because light is not travelling it occurs relative to the opposing field interactions.

As I suggested all in a perfectly packed solid universe, where current so called LAWS of physics are only partially relevant , and vary relative to the respective field memory .

Any craft wanting to SWITCH about in this solid universe needs to have it's own field capable of over coming whatever dominant field it is within, then the total content within that field simply switchs to wherever , and then modulates towards the field it encounters.

It is very difficult to think in terms of a solid universe, where all actions and consequences are not by mass, as mass is a mere local collection of memory.

hobbit

Captain Dave

#39
Quote from: hobbit on December 12, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
Howdo?
If You puzzle out how the system of universe operates, instead of been hampered by little Earth thinking, then YES.
hobbit

Hypothetically lets say this happened...
You experienced being "out of sinc" with "normal" Earth space time. It was like being sped up thousands of times faster. Everything around you remained at "normal" speed. (You could also say that everything around you slowed down thousands of time.)

During this experience, everything around you was standing still. You walked around and other objects such as those on the hwy were not moving. Everything was silent. However your own actions & functions still seemed normal to you.

On a smaller scale, it's kind of like when a TV commercial posts subliminal information during a commercial. Most people would never see the split second image flashed across the screen. To me it was like it was there for say... a good 5 seconds. I could clearly see the message while others did not.

The faster you "speed up" - the more everything else around you slows down - so you as an object are "out of sinc" with "normal" space time; and the other ojects around you.

Is the Moon out of sinc with the Earth? I guess thats a matter of perspective. Could we see into another dimension of time and space by using an image capturing system programmed to capture images at an extremely fast calculated speed, and interpolate it to a normal speed in real time? I suppose then if "something" on the moon was out of sinc with our own phase/time, it might show up? Like focusing a lens, I suppose the speed at which we capture images at a certain point would create the "focus" aspect?

However the human mind as a biological machine controlling  the device might add to it's abilities.  ???

hobbit

Captain Dave,
Excellent post.
The devices been employed to take pictures of the moon are made on Earth, from materials of Earth, they are therefore still part of earth and within a self similer memory field.
Thus anything been sent out into space is in effect a mini earth, and will thus SEE and record relative to the Earths field.
At an extreme of this thinking it may be that there is life on the sun, to our senses and sensors the sun is as relative to the earth, but from the sun the Earth may appear as a star?
I can appreciate how difficult this thinking is to consider, but it is from a universe perspective, not the surface area of Earth perspective.

Modulation will be required to as You say FOCUS onto different field geometries involved with all other mass in universe.

IMHO( in my hobbit opinion)
The universe is a perfectly packed crystal of geometric lattice STUFF, that geometry enables different dimensions to be , and those dimensions will be on different faces of the geometry of the STUFF that composes universe( think of star dodechedrons)

This is how so called flying saucers operate, in that they modulate their fields to FIT a different field geometry, and thus they are there, as they cannot then be in this dimension, they don't fly as such, they are basically time machines that can modulate .


The moon is the biggest clue as it SWITCHS about within the earths field, it is situated in the field geometries created between the sun and earth, there is no gravity force, it's all by field.
Biefeld Brown.
hobbit

hobbit

If I could recommend this site to all.
http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/126/134anuqa.html

The ANU dual whorls shown combined together is what YOU look like to My dowsing .
AS ABOVE,SO BELOW.
So does all in creation, just to variable scale.
The physical YOU is held within those dual whorl fields, and YOU are remembering to be.
TO BE, OR NOT TO BE, THAT IS THE QUESTION.
YOU and all else are simply memory, You are what You are, but not how You thought You are.
Everything created where the moon is located is within the specific memory field of the moon, if anything is taken from there and brought here it will need to modulate to FIT the memory field of here, as will anything made here and taken there.

If materials are brought from deep down within the earth, they too will need to modulate to the different geometric condition they suddenly encounter, same as will anything from higher up in the atmosphere if it comes rapidly back to the surface.

Most of nature utilises all of this, only the arrogant humans try to fight it.
Thank goodness I am a,
Hobbit

Sgt.Rocknroll

I'm really, really, really sorry, but I just don't understand what all this (insert description), has to do with examining/discovering FARSIDE BUILDINGS ON THE MOON.... :o ::).....just saying....Peace 8)
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

hobbit

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 13, 2011, 03:22:53 PM
I'm really, really, really sorry, but I just don't understand what all this (insert description), has to do with examining/discovering FARSIDE BUILDINGS ON THE MOON.... :o ::).....just saying....Peace 8)

Then I need to explain far clearer, My fault.

Matter and mass are relative to the field they are created in.
The earth is the earth, and all created here.
The moon is the moon and all created there.
The two are different.

Your eyes and devices to improve Your visual are products of the earth, that does not mean they can readily SEE what is on the moons surface, though those practised at adjusting to the moons surface will possibly develope a better EYE that modulates to what is on the moons surface.

For this reason I consider only low quality pictures of the moon are ever released, as finer quality and different ( infra red) may reveal a better definition .

Your eyes pick up signals they are made to pick up, then those signals create a holographic image inside Your sealed head, but your eyes are programmed to detect signals relative to the field condition You were created in, here at the surface of earth.
The surface of the moon is different, but because You have been indoctrinated to think that mass is mass, and no matter where it origonates from it's all the same, you are EASILY veiled from actually viewing universe.


hobbit

Sgt.Rocknroll

Ok, I'm not being a smartass, but is this (your post) an actuallity a  accepted norm or something you made up?
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