The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis: Pure misdirection?

[Sinny]

Oh whilst I'm here, I grabbed this from ATS about an hour ago:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread977308/pg1

I'll save you 5 pages of reading - click here:
http://wolfmagick.com/documents/Return%20of%20the%20gods.pdf

Originated from these people:
http://www.the-starpeople.net/indexus.html#home?

I'll tell you why I don't like it; I've only skimmed the thread and skimmed the doc and webpage, however off the top of my head:

*Star Seed? How original 
*The irrelevant images, format and captions are leading and suggestive.
*Alfred openly states he only had his eye's opened in 2011 - that's a short time to be developing these skills...
*The communication is presented as though the aliens had an important message for us - and yet Albert leads a tentative and almost submissive sort of interview..If a message is urgent, it's urgent - this clearly was not.
*Very brief and half hearted transcript - leaving much room for misinterpretation and little study.
*The answers provided within are neither clear nor of higher comprehension - just simple and vague.
*At one point half way through Alfred says "hold one,  that's a goodun, I need to write that down" - how exactly is this communication occurring, and who on Earth is transcribing?!
*Offered a precise timeline of events. Always a no-no.

I could probably raise more points - but that will suffice. Seems like a lot of New Age mumbo Jumbo to me, with shreds of truth, as always, stretched to further an agenda. One thing some of the sources I have subscribed to would never provide 'time lines', because possibilities/probabilities change all the time. They would also answer your questions directly and clearly. Outlets of misdirection even no longer be profitable private enterprise, these days, the motivation lie's in that of the United Nations  - they'll fund all this crap; and if these people are communing with someone/thing it not be of the light.

[Amaterasu]

I favor the scenario offered in The Terra Papers.  The Orions are "reptilian," the Sirians are lupinoid or caninoid...  And there IS an alliance between Them.

I have nothing but the work of Robert Morning Sky, but when I read the Papers, things here on this planet just suddenly made SO much sense.

[rose]

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is material items of evidence were and are worthless - complete mis-direction.

Sinny,  Interesting discussions these days. Seems like lots of souls are wandering between dark and light

I used to place great stock in documents, but as I have becomemore aware of the philosophy propounded by WWII spymaster William Stephenson that "nothing succeeds like a document," I now tend to be of two minds about everything.

rose

[petrus4]

I favor the scenario offered in The Terra Papers.  The Orions are "reptilian," the Sirians are lupinoid or caninoid...  And there IS an alliance between Them.

Although I'm aware that there is an STS or negatively polarised faction of the Sirians, I have reason to believe that they are not all bad, Amy.  My own observation strongly suggests that the Na'vi of Avatar were in fact modelled on the positive Sirian faction.

[Anthra]

I have to say I love your commitment, I look forward to getting through your material after all if your investigating this topic like I have been for ever you have to have all the angles coverd ( even the whacky stuff LOL )
As for bad vibes? NOT IN THIS FORUM BUDDY that's why we love it here.
The passion the debate the info it's all good

When I started this I just wanted to show that ET "was" there , and could in fact be visiting Earth. Then I could begin to compute the probability of ET actually being on Earth.


As I investigated I found that nearly all of the "mythical" aliens actually has home stars that could support the kind of being they are purported to be.


It seemed reasonable at the time that "if" myth was indeed "myth" that there should be avery low "hit" rate on the "approriate" star thing.


So far only three have "missed".


This leaves us with light and dark "Human" types; Sirius.

"Tall Whites"; Perhaps Capella (A "G8" star)

Short Grays: Zeta Reticuli; not too different than Sol, but a bit younger.

Procyon: Short "Dwarf" like humanoid (F5 star)

"Tall Grays": Gamma Leporis a "F6" star

This list goes on. In my video I showed my "Drake" like equation; it estimated 10.5 species visiting Earth right now. I think that estimate is somewhat low.


I'm not sure if I knew what to expect, but the whole thing got rather complex in a hurre. By the time I finished the over view, I recognized it was only an over view, and I have ore parts to do.

[Amaterasu]

Although I'm aware that there is an STS or negatively polarised faction of the Sirians, I have reason to believe that they are not all bad, Amy.  My own observation strongly suggests that the Na'vi of Avatar were in fact modelled on the positive Sirian faction.

Oh, most assuredly, the Sirians have many "good guys."  According to The Terra Papers, Ea and An-En (Enki and Enlil, which are titles) were Sirian.  Ea is the actual creator of Humans with His Orionese "sister," Ninhursag.  He championed Humanity while His brother, An-En, hated Us.

[Anthra]

I favor the scenario offered in The Terra Papers.  The Orions are "reptilian," the Sirians are lupinoid or caninoid...  And there IS an alliance between Them.

I have nothing but the work of Robert Morning Sky, but when I read the Papers, things here on this planet just suddenly made SO much sense.

The Sirians have always seemed more like Human to me, very unlike a Terrestrial "Lupine" (Wolf).

It is my understanding that Orion Grays are amphibous base, so there is the Reptile.

[Amaterasu]

That could be about the Orionese - Morning Sky did not say amphibious; He said "reptilian..."  But who knows?

As for the Sirians...  The dog/wolf is said to express in hairier bodies than, say, a reptilian, and strong loyalty ties.  Otherwise, We were created in Their image, so...  Yeah.  They would look like Us and We Them.

[Sinny]

What about the plant like chlorophyll absed aliens? 

[Ellirium113]

This list goes on. In my video I showed my "Drake" like equation; it estimated 10.5 species visiting Earth right now. I think that estimate is somewhat low.

According to Clifford Stone this would be a gross miscalculation... He has catalogued over 57 species he claims.



So did 57 different types of aliens just decide this is the vacation spot of the universe? Surely we are NOT THAT FASCINATING?   

[Elvis Hendrix]

Thats not what Spock reckons

[Ellirium113]

Thats not what Spock reckons

That doesn't count...look what he's smoking!   

[Anthra]

Yeah, I've seen that list of 57 species...many aren't even "supposed" to be ET...lke Sasquach.


Then there's "blacks", "whites", and colors inbetween...kind of like Earth. So they aren't the same species?


If you take that list of 57, and remove the BS you end up with about 10, any extra; like "Vegans", "Arcturans", "Plieadeans" I can show probably do not really exist (typically from a star that is far too young).


Interestingly, within 50 ly there are ample G, F, A class stars to provide many species, not all space faring.


I respect the work, but, there are simply inconsistancies with reality.

[stealthyaroura]

Regarding clifford stones "57 different types of alien" fact yeah.

I always took that to be a joke as in the HEINZ soup 57 varieties LOL.
I'm pretty sure he's taking the pi$$

[Anthra]

Have you actually read that list?

It is full of duplicates, terrestrial creatures, Sify, and about the same number of actual Extraterrestrials as my list. And Stone's list of actual ETs is very nearly the same list as mine, he however, has a few species that simply can't exist.

Like lyrans; lyra isn't a star, its a constellation. The Star typically named in lyra is the star "Vega". Vega is a G class star, not unlike Sol in many respects, One would think a nice star to have for a home. Unfortunately Vega is about 500 million years old; not old enough to have evolved intelligent life. Or one of the others like "Arcturus" It is an old star, so old it is dying, like Aldebaran. There may have been advanced life at one time, but, IF they achieved space travel, they likely left very long ago; perhaps ancient Terrestrial "cave men" knew them, as they searched for a new home, or perhaps they have ascended. Stone refers to both of these non existent species.

But, its not like there aren't enough stars, there are plenty of the right class and age to support nearly any number of extraterrestrial. However, there is absolutely no accounting for the development and evolution of individual planetary systems. Earth has take 4.5 billion years, Zeta Reticuli only about 3 billion. There are also "mystery" stars; older stars of appropriate class, with no apparent life. (there are a couple of these near by).

I think we need to remember that Stone's list is characterized as a list of "aliens" as differentiated from Extraterrestrials. And, ET need not be very "alien".