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Started by Amaterasu, November 04, 2013, 04:24:51 AM

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Sinny

#105
Quote from: zorgon on November 06, 2013, 11:59:10 PM
Sooner than you think, my friend...  and right in my backyard  :o

Pentagon's DARPA preparing to equip robots with 'real' brains


A robotics fan wears a button on his hat at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) Grand Challenge in Primm Nevada. (Reuters / Gene Blevins)


http://rt.com/usa/systems-intelligence-robots-defense-781/

Peter Beter said they, ('they' being either the White Russians or the Americans, can't remember which), already cracked this little endeavor back in the 70's.

I'm inclined to believe him now some of the information is starting to filter through.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

The Matrix Traveller

We can only choose from the choices, which have been written into the (independent) "Species Program".

IF the choice is NOT available in our own Program we can't enable the choice which is NOT there
before we enter the experience.

I Can explain more about this in my private forums...

I might even open a new thread in my pubic forum regarding this, when I get back from China early next year,
IF I don't stay in China at this stage.

Can't read a Program Book if it hasn't been written, before one attempts to read it, re. your experience involving
this world or Program.

The" Program Book" being "The Life and Times of"....... (with all the available choices)

robomont

I thought the brain was mapped last year.i would think it would be simple to take that map and place on a microchip.then the brain can download itself using a mirror program.viola.cloned.just a theory though.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

deuem

QuoteI might even open a new thread in my pubic forum regarding this, when I get back from China early next year,
IF I don't stay in China at this stage.


Breaking new, Pegasus is taking over China, you heard it here first.....The Zorgon empire is expanding to the world..

Sorry, got off topic...Mental moment is now over,

Sinny

Quote from: robomont on November 07, 2013, 11:37:19 AM
then the brain can download itself using a mirror program.viola.cloned.just a theory though.

Good theory IMO.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Amaterasu

#110
Quote from: deuem on November 07, 2013, 06:14:46 AM
Ok, I am not posting this picture to be a funny Deuem, It is here to show you what I think will happen to the kids living in abundance. As it is now they are getting to be about 25% of the kid in the photo. They are an easy mark. Only the fat kids have rich parents. Move it up to when they are all in abundance and we might get this across the board. I see it every day.






I see little difference between rich kids and a bad Tap future for all of them. Hey if China the land of 1.3 billion people can go from a 3rd world hunger state to a bliss of food. So much we can toss it out then what is wrong with other places. I quess they just don't care.

And after that bird is done eating the kid I would line his/her parents up next.

Deuem

So...  Is there any HFCS in the food there?  MSG?  Other system disruptors like Aspartame?  And yeah, some percentage of Humans will choose to be like that guy - BUT...  What skin is it off YOUR nose?  No One is a "burden" in TAP.  And while We're at it, what BUSINESS is it of Yours?

EDIT to add:  I see images with thousands of normal Chinese kids - I cannot imagine that China has a weight problem.  And if the issue is merely overeating, that is a sign of low self esteem, and One cannot rule out things like:  effective abandonment (little to no attention given) and/or abuse (verbal, physical, sexual), as overweight is VASTLY more common a problem amongst children who are so neglected and treated.

And since the rich tend to be psychopaths, One can give a higher likelihood to the possibility that indeed these children have been maltreated.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 07, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
As I keep telling you nothing wrong with your desires and thoughts to change BUT, I hate that BUT.... Don't you?

There are very few of us, who want things to change, the other 90% just WANT !

When I was a baby I just WANTED..... That is why I cried. I didn't want to learn how to crawl and walk
I just wanted to be picked up and carried, just like others...  But my dear mum insisted I learn to crawl,
then walk, so I could go out to play, become a little educated etc. etc. You know how it is... Mums care
for their children...   :)

So NOW it is TIME for us ALL including me, to Learn about Our Real Selves and WHAT this is really all about,
instead of believing anything which will allow us to find an easy way, avoiding any effort.


So will everyone change then ?

I hate to say it but I can't see it happening....

Everyone has to LEARN themselves, through Experiencing this Program, (World) just Like
I learnt to Crawl and walk etc. as a baby.

But the baby stage passes and we then go out to play and gain a little more education.

The Best education of ALL comes from Living....   :)

Also known as The PRESENT !

Present;

a.     The "NOW".
and
b.      A "GIFT".

That is why these two are spelt the same.....  LOL.

Plain to see and undeniable.   :)

Matrix, what makes You think:

1.  That wanting will not motivate People to change to a system where They can have
2.  That effort as an energy slave is superior to effort put forth in bliss
3.  That having the ability to CHOOSE where Our energy is spent is inferior to being forced to fit Our energy in as a cog in the system or die
4.  That starving to death as a child is within acceptable parameters when the planet could easily feed every child for centuries
5.  That We should retain the system when We JUST NOW (and never before - that We know of) have the tools to change it

?
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

The Matrix Traveller

#112
Quote from: robomont on November 07, 2013, 11:37:19 AM
I thought the brain was mapped last year.i would think it would be simple to take that map and place on a microchip.then the brain can download itself using a mirror program.viola.cloned.just a theory though.

The Bain is also an "Interface" between The Mind i.e. Awareness or LIFE
and the Experience (body and Environment it Interacts with, which is much like a "1st Person"
Computer game played on a network with multiple players in a common software environment.)

1st Person Computer Game;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_(video_games)

But what you believe to be Reality is a "1st person" game but slightly more sophisticated
than what is played on the net today....  LOL.



Yes the Brain has been mapped like you say but this does NOT give the Software
nor "Source Code".

The Brains Processor doesn't function like our CRUDE computers.

The brain is like a "Pseudo Processor", supporting its peripherals, but within the System exists the "Interface"
to LIFE or "Awareness" which is Non Dimensional.



So HOW do we map something which is Non Dimensional and NOT a Component of the Experience ?   :)

We can However both see our Processing System and study it in this "Non-Dimensional" World,
as a "Projection" through Strobing Light on a Screen.... or Rapidly blinking your eyes
at a White Surface such as a Wall, making sure NOT to move the eyes.

The Processing System is Constructed on "Rules" or "Laws" involving "Interactive Geometry", so there is
Nothing Physical or formed of Energy about this processor outside the human environment....  :)

There is a huge amount for us to learn yet about "Virtual" like Processors.

In reality our "Human based Science" is rather Primitive, and lacks all the Cards....  LOL.

The Matrix Traveller

Quotethen the brain can download itself using a mirror program.viola.cloned.just a theory though.

Quote from: Sinny on November 07, 2013, 12:46:59 PM
Good theory IMO.

Absolutely correct Robot... My occupation involves exactly that !    :)

The Matrix Traveller

#114
QuoteMatrix, what makes You think:

1stly The KNOWLEDGE of LIFE (To Know LIFE)   

Quote1.  That wanting will not motivate People to change to a system where They can have

Because the human primate is the Result, simply a Component of a "1st person" game
and is certainly NOT in Control !

IF they were then your world would be different and you wouldn't be looking at changes now would you ?

Quote2.  That effort as an energy slave is superior to effort put forth in bliss

Why O Why does the human Primate "LUST" after "Energy Based Systems" ?

Quote3.  That having the ability to CHOOSE where Our energy is spent is inferior to being forced to fit
Our energy in as a cog in the system or die

"Energy", "Energy", "Energy".... see Quote;

QuoteWhy O Why does the human Primate, "LUST" after "Energy Based Systems" ?

Quote4.  That starving to death as a child is within acceptable parameters when the planet could easily feed every child for centuries

It isn't Acceptable !

The Flesh can't die, simply because it Isn't Living in the 1st Place.   :)

The ONLY "Lining One" is LIFE, Nothing else.... Its just that on Earth
you WANT the Flesh to be alive...   :)

The Dead is NOTalive !

Neither can "The Living One" Die !


The Flesh is NOT LIFE... it is "flesh", part of an experience which is Generated from Program Books !


It is so Sad, that many on Earth try to Covet LIFE ! (in Vain)

Perhaps it is "Envy" ?

Quote5.  That We should retain the system when We JUST NOW (and never before - that We know of) have the tools to change it

You can't Change it.... because the "Option" is NOT Present in the Program !


LIFE is in Control.... Thank Goodness !

It's just that its purpose is NOT understood Through the Brain of a human Primate..

zorgon

Quote from: deuem on November 07, 2013, 12:01:21 PM
Breaking new, Pegasus is taking over China, you heard it here first.....The Zorgon empire is expanding to the world..

You gotz free medical over there right?  :D

I may move :P

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 07, 2013, 12:14:43 AM
I guess...  Does that mean I should stop posting My work here and direct Twits to other sites...?

Nope didn't say that nor imply that. If I thought you were spamming us I would not have given you a section :P 

QuoteNot exactly.  The People with the heart and skills WILL emerge.  I rely on the natural stigmergy inherent in all social creatures.  I don't have the expertise, but I can point the path easily enough.

Perhaps those with the heart are already here... and I would grant as given that the skills exist already... what is missing is the method for those with heart and skill to start the wheels turning. No matter what you say... MONEY will be needed to start the process of getting rid of money.  You cannot build a new empire with nothing but an idea. The first robot factory will be expensive


QuoteLittle illustration:

There is a planet with 100 People on it.  It's a very small planet, but could support 1000.  The fields need 25 People (just grabbing a number) to work them.  14 People LOVE to farm.  They step right up.

They still need 11 more.  They have a choice.  Force, coerce, or bribe 11 People to work the fields - OR add 11 robots, freeing the 11 to do what They WANT to do.

One thing wrong with your illustration. Yes they have a choice... chip in to the farming or STARVE. In the old hunter gatherer systems everyone chipped in to provide food for the tribe. It was either that or starve. Then someone smart figured out that if they enslave the neighbors they could eat free :P and that is how war was born :D

QuoteNo One is FORCING robots on anyOne, but that they are used where necessary work needs to be done and too few WANT to do it.

In theory on paper that might work... in reality it will not. Robots are already filling the task in many bad jobs today... but the robot makers are mad scientists. They are working daily to make their machines smarter and better than us. The signs are all around us... the Japanese are even wanting robots to replace women for pure sexual reasons... (although one guy did program the bot to say no and slap ya when you touch her boob :P )  I bet within my lifetime I will see very awesome sexbots hit the market. probably cheaper than the wife :P

You forget that those with the skills and ideas to build robots tend to be the geeky types that care only to make the best smartest robots... very rarely do they care about humanity in general

And that is not counting your psychopaths that are currently mass producing robots of destruction... from drones to petman to micro bugs to replace Bees

QuoteYou can go live in that yert on the Mongolian steppes I keep bringing up, or in a cave, no robots to be seen.

LOL I have a portable one :P



They are comfy :D and the Mongolian steppes are awesome but cold...  though I am pretty sure Mongolians won't support TAP


zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 07, 2013, 12:14:43 AMWhoa!  Who put ANY religious spin in here?  I am not "against religion!"  I have My own view, and that's that, but I would NEVER push ANYONE around on THEIR spiritual path.  In TAP, communities of worshipers will likely spring up.  One can follow ANY path One CHOOSES and as long as One does not break the three Laws, who cares?

Well religion IS part of this You cannot brush it away.  HOW will you get 23% of the world's population that is Muslim to accept TAP and obey your "Three laws" when their mission in life, their bliss, is to have the world under Allah's rule?

Buddhists already kinda support "do your own thing" but Christians are more interested it seeing the End of the World then worrying about fixing things

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on November 07, 2013, 09:19:56 PM
Nope didn't say that nor imply that. If I thought you were spamming us I would not have given you a section :P 

Ok.

QuotePerhaps those with the heart are already here... and I would grant as given that the skills exist already... what is missing is the method for those with heart and skill to start the wheels turning. No matter what you say... MONEY will be needed to start the process of getting rid of money.  You cannot build a new empire with nothing but an idea. The first robot factory will be expensive

Yes...  Thus the call to spend taxes - which is part of the ideas I spread.  Because if no One knows  to spend, We will not make that choice.

QuoteOne thing wrong with your illustration. Yes they have a choice... chip in to the farming or STARVE. In the old hunter gatherer systems everyone chipped in to provide food for the tribe. It was either that or starve. Then someone smart figured out that if they enslave the neighbors they could eat free :P and that is how war was born :D

The illustration was presuming the new tools We just now have.  Or did that get past You?  Yes, in energy scarcity, that is what drove People: survival.  With the advent of devices to use external energy, some of that scarcity was relieved, enough to allow Us some leisure time.  As more and more external energy was added, life got better and better.  That is a threat to TPTB, because Humans, freed from focusing purely on survival, are able to focus on the system They are within.

So the "oil scarcity" myth, for one example, came into being.  It allowed Them to tighten the purse strings on Us, sucking greater amounts of wealth from Us to Them. 

And now, having figured out how to free Us from slavery (paid, unpaid, indebted cog) and any profit from war, We all can live abundantly with expectations of overall peace.

QuoteIn theory on paper that might work... in reality it will not. Robots are already filling the task in many bad jobs today... but the robot makers are mad scientists. They are working daily to make their machines smarter and better than us. The signs are all around us... the Japanese are even wanting robots to replace women for pure sexual reasons... (although one guy did program the bot to say no and slap ya when you touch her boob :P )  I bet within my lifetime I will see very awesome sexbots hit the market. probably cheaper than the wife :P

You forget that those with the skills and ideas to build robots tend to be the geeky types that care only to make the best smartest robots... very rarely do they care about humanity in general

And You forget the power of bragging rights for producing the BEST solutions.  I bet, as with Linux, efforts to offer best solutions will be common.  Difficult to be psychopathic in coding when source is available for all to pour through, seeing what You're doing and how You're doing it.  Get caught and MAN the negative social currency will pile up.

QuoteAnd that is not counting your psychopaths that are currently mass producing robots of destruction... from drones to petman to micro bugs to replace Bees

Stigmergy will allow the solutions to emerge.  And the present psychopaths will become personally responsible for Their choices of behavior, as the rest of Us.  They will discover They are only 4%ish...

QuoteLOL I have a portable one :P



They are comfy :D and the Mongolian steppes are awesome but cold...  though I am pretty sure Mongolians won't support TAP

I wouldn't mind a yert, M'self.  As for the Mongolians...  What do They have to do to "support" it?  They continue as They choose.  If They want something from outside, They find a terminal eventually, and order it.  If They don't, They can ignore any terminals They see, should They see any.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 07, 2013, 12:14:43 AMNo "maybe" about it in My experience.  Whether You choose to believe or not...  Meh.  Nothing I can do about it.

Oh, I assure You, SOMEONE has it.  But again, that is from personal experience.  Believe, don't.  Whatever.

It's not a matter of belief... it is a matter of direct evidence. Sure there may be some devices tucked away somewhere but you forget about GREED

While the US and some other nations may be happy with the Oil Barons.... there are other 'psychopathic despots' in the world that have no access to oil and are dependent on it to survive.

Those guys would pounce on it, develop it in secret and use it for their own advancement... instead of being at the mercy of oil. Hitler was brought to his knees literally because we cut off the oil...

Yet CTer's say Hitler had Alien help and advanced saucer tech...

QuoteAnd You don't think They might be:

1.  Keeping use localized where They know They won't have to explain it
2.  Putting in such places (on Our dime) to enrich contractors and hide the actual mainstay of power production

Could be.  I put nothing past Them.

I used to think that maybe  yes "could be" But now I know that it's not. They are spending trillions on our dime yes, but unless this 'free energy' tech is being used off world, it is not being used here.  And even the NAVY is using laser transmission to beam wireless energy to Moon Base :P