Clementine images

[ArMaP]

If you spent 2 minutes on each one that would take you 24 hours a day 2.2 years to look at them all.
I can see this for map makng but to look at each one. Ouch!

The images are very small, something like (I'm not sure) 255 x 384, that's why they needed so many.
 

We are told it is scattered all over the planet and no longer uniform. ArMaP, do you know if the MSL is in one of these fields?

I think MSL is in that black circle south of Elysium Mons.
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[Elvis Hendrix]

Evening gents. I still think there are plenty miles in the orbiter scans.
I know they've been done to death but I think there may still be more to dig at. My obvious favorite is LO5-125-H2A. Which we've all had a go at but I had the tiff up at work today, and it's still amazing to look at.
I don't care if it's old hat to some, the vast majority of punters out there wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about, if you mentioned the tower that mike Singh brought to "our" attention. And as to "piss poor" images, we'll guess what,there all piss poor, but there still as valid today as they were the day day we looked in disbelief and said wow.
So thank you for your consideration chaps. Your a great bunch and I'm proud to be part of this select group.
Elvis.

[The Seeker]

This is what I believe....

There are structures on the moon, minning operations and beings living there.

There is a Secret Space Program and a Naval Operational Fleet....

Mars has been inhabited for a very long time and not just by Humans...

Stargates ARE real...

I will continue to look for the abnormal, anomalous on the Moon,,maybe Mars....
I will continue to high light what I think I see..
I will continue to download as many photos and documents I can find on the above....

to what end?

To satisfy my curiosity....(I'm not out to convince anyone anymore, you either believe or not)


I don't know what else to say, except from the first part of this post...That I really, really don't think its a waste of time...
I always want to know more......

Peace
Rock...

Applause and gold for you, beaudreaux...

We are on the same page...


seeker

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Evening gents. I still think there are plenty miles in the orbiter scans.
I know they've been done to death but I think there may still be more to dig at. My obvious favorite is LO5-125-H2A. Which we've all had a go at but I had the tiff up at work today, and it's still amazing to look at.

Elvis.

I totally agree & I still have it loaded in Autocad & still drawing!


@Seeker,,, thanks!

[deuem]

ArMaP, that's the one. There are 13 sub-divisions of color, I see you placed the MSL in a -1 light blue area. I think all missions should be placed and see it they have an alterative motive for landing sites.

I also wold like to say that the 90/10 rule is on all of the photos. All of us, including me, take the risk of making things up 90% vs Cleaning things up 10% with most of the photos we have. It is very easy to get taken away with the moment. It does not stop us, it just makes it harder.

We/I am working towards sliding that 90% towards the 10% end by researching ways to clean photos. Do clean enlargements. Find patterns in other types of evidence. Things they would miss or just never bother changing. The, look over here while I do this trick. 

Hey they lied about hubble not being able to shot the moon. Why would they not lie about everything. The moon is most likely mapped down to 1 pixel=1cm or less. We need those prints....We live in a world were we have better photos of Area 51 than the moon...So which means more to them? Get those photos and we have a new game afoot.

Deuem

[zorgon]

Zorgon, in case you missed it, Russo actually made a post on Comet Ison...

Just saw that   So he is ...


ALIVE

[zorgon]

This is what I believe....

There are structures on the moon, minning operations and beings living there.

There is a Secret Space Program and a Naval Operational Fleet....

Mars has been inhabited for a very long time and not just by Humans...

Stargates ARE real...

You are correct on all accounts More than you know and more than I can say right now

I will continue to look for the abnormal, anomalous on the Moon,,maybe Mars....
I will continue to high light what I think I see..
I will continue to download as many photos and documents I can find on the above....

Awesome  me too  Can I point you at some to look at? ArMaP did one for us... I was looking for moving rocks in an area near Tsiolkowsky. Jack had requested LRO to go have a look for us.

ArMaP found so many moving rocks that he gave up plotting them all

to what end?

a) because it's fun
b) let's call SETI remind them of their Lunar Archaeology program and what ASU suggested
c and MOST IMPORTANT  to find some more that ArMaP cannot explain away

See? That is why we keep him around   If we find ones that stump him, ...

WE HAVE A WINNER

I don't know what else to say, except from the first part of this post...That I really, really don't think its a waste of time...
I always want to know more......

Well I have a job for you that requires Cosmic Clearance but suited to your cad skills

Interested?

[deuem]

Z: Well I have a job for you that requires Cosmic Clearance but suited to your cad skills

Ok, Big Bait in the water.  MIB knocking at your door? If you guys are really looking at something that is real, then why are we following bread crumbs. Afraid your world will turn upside down?

So now we have TPTB and TPTI "the power that is"..  Are we all wasting our time Z? Come on spill it.  When I hear John speak and then show stuff, they don't match. It is as if he is not talking about the same photo. Here's what I know and this is the garbage I can show you. The good stuff is off limits.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Well I have a job for you that requires Cosmic Clearance but suited to your cad skills

Interested?

I HAVE been waiting for you very patiently to send me more stuff.

I'm getting REAL bored down here.

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, that's the one. There are 13 sub-divisions of color, I see you placed the MSL in a -1 light blue area. I think all missions should be placed and see it they have an alterative motive for landing sites.

They are 11 sub-divisions, 5 positive, 5 negative and a neutral. I will look for the other landing sites and will add them to that image.

Hey they lied about hubble not being able to shot the moon. Why would they not lie about everything.

Yep, once a liar always a liar, that's one of the first things I learned, it was in the book for my first year at school, many years ago. I never forgot about that.

The moon is most likely mapped down to 1 pixel=1cm or less.

I doubt it, it would be technically difficult to do. We can have those resolutions in aerial photos, from orbit it's a different thing. Also, I don't see the need for such high resolutions, and it would produce a very large amount of data.[/quote]

[ArMaP]

Here is the map with all of the 8 confirmed landings. I made it into an animated GIF to make it easier to see those coloured circles in the coloured areas.

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And the legend, to identify the landers/rovers.

[deuem]

That's interesting. If I read it right the Mars 3 landed 30+, then Viking 1 3+ then the rest avoided the + areas and kept from o to -1.  They must transmit a better cleaner signal from there. But for life would not the positive areas be needed.

If that is true then we need to look for the sat shots in the 30+ areas and see how they differ from the 30- areas. If there are any differences at all.

ArMaP, is there a larger map like this one. A very detailed one which we could pull off coorinates.  If you find any other types of maps, please at least screen grab them.

Deuem

[ArMaP]

That's interesting. If I read it right the Mars 3 landed 30+, then Viking 1 3+ then the rest avoided the + areas and kept from o to -1.  They must transmit a better cleaner signal from there. But for life would not the positive areas be needed.

Mars 3 made a successful landing but stopped communicating after some seconds.

ArMaP, is there a larger map like this one. A very detailed one which we could pull off coorinates.  If you find any other types of maps, please at least screen grab them.

This was the biggest image I could find, I have to look to see if the same information is available in a different format that can be mapped at a higher resolution.

[deuem]

Mars 3 made a successful landing but stopped communicating after some seconds.

Ok, what's good for life is death for rovers. At least the transmissions. I thought you would find a pattern here. That's one in the Ok Bucket and a reason why. Good job ArMaP. A golden cookie for you.

Deuem

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

It is a pleasure to follow threads like this, even if i have nothing to add

Except, maybe hurtling through a strong mag field at those speeds will induce a high voltage in the wiring, & that probably killed the CMOS chips..........

Magnetic shielding is NOT an option, unless you can afford to wrap the whole thing in silicon steel, by which time it would be 3 times as heavy & also inoperable