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Started by COSMO, February 08, 2014, 01:48:10 PM

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robomont

I think the particles are effected by the giant masses of the universe.the voltages they need to create these particles relates to the masses such as earth ,the solar system ,the galaxy and the universe.so the particles location is predictable.
That's just my theory on it.

And the cat never existed.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

COSMO

#31
I am not sure about that one robo.  The foundation of creation is not particle or electromagnetic in nature.  These qualities and all of the forces of nature spring from the primary medium, the ETHER.  In it's placid state we can only detect it's gravitational effects and it behaves like a super fluid.  (the super fluid model explains the riddle of gravity AND inertia)  The universal ocean of creation is not matter as we observe it.  We only perceive the result of the quantum wave collapse, from "quantum to classical", when the quantum state is "touched" by the outside world. That instant of being "touched"...that is the instant of physical creation.





The results of the experiment are significant because it validates the wave/particle probability state,  quantum wave collapse and the uncertainty principle.  It is not a theory.  We can not ignore this and be successful in mastering the forces of nature.   

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2712015/Watch-Schr-dingers-cat-die-live-Physicists-quantum-theorys-bizarre-wanderings-time.html

This means we HAVE to factor in the human element when we consider the nature of the universe.   The post collapse, physical universe we observe is not even the real state of creation.  That is the main stumbling block right now for mankind in our quest to understand the forces of nature including FTL and gravity modification...and OUR true nature...

Cosmo



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Well...How did I get here?

Littleenki

Well, Cosmo, it seems there are some quantum entanglements going on right in fron of our eyes here amigo....I hadnt seen this latest post of yours, but does this sound familiar?
you said:

Quantum particles "touched' by the outside world"...where physics and metaphysics unite.

And on that thread where I posted the video of Tom Campbell......I said:

Im sure many here will find it very useful in formulating their views on the situation regarding physics and metaphysics as a whole instead of parts.

Then add that to the graphic in your post showing the clear spiral nature of a quantum density as it relocates through local geometry around an invisible axis...of which I would guess is what Campell describes as "Other", or stillness, God, or what have you....and one begins to see the Samadhi manifest through such visible means.



Hmmm, seems there is a quantum connection in minds here at PRC.....I am convinced of that.

The process of thought and mental manifestation is obvious to the meditator in their meditative state of heightened awareness and purposeful desire, to create this spiral, or Kundalini, within themselves..as many historical masters taught.....and for science to be able to see it now, and realize their battle to disprove it for centuries is fruitless, and how this work is breaking down the walls which have separated science and spirituality for millenia, is a wonderful new development, a long time coming.

Gold for you my friend, and it would appear soon, an Age of Gold for humanity!

Cheers!
Le

Hermetically sealed, for your protection

Amaterasu

Excellent post, LE.  I give Thee gold.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

petrus4

QuoteFor example, in chemistry, scientists could use this to prefer certain products of a reaction over others

(From COSMO's linked article)

This sounds suspiciously like the idea that certain temperatures seemed to have importance as frequency markers within alchemy.  Then again, you also have the system of the planetary days and hours.  I think it's going to be extremely amusing to see how much of hermeticism ultimately ends up being verified by science.  Of course, said scientists would prefer to undergo live vivisection than admit that, "We've just proven that magick is real."
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

Pimander

Quote from: petrus4 on August 12, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
I think it's going to be extremely amusing to see how much of hermeticism ultimately ends up being verified by science.
Some of it has been verified.  I'd suggest that what most mainstream scientists ignore is the implications of verification.  This is partly because the implications are philosophical but the findings also clearly have implications for science which are unlikely to get attention publicly (a lot of scientists are Rosicrucians and similar PRIVATELY).

Will Hermeticism and related systems ever be publicly accepted by academia or industry?  I wish I knew....

COSMO

#36
Fascinating ideas from some of our greatest minds on the subject of human consciousness and the universe we perceive.

8 Scientists Contemplate Place of Human Consciousness in Science

Erwin Schrödinger, Nobel Prize Winning Physicist



"Consciousness is that by which this world first becomes manifest, by which indeed, we can quite calmly say, it first becomes present; that the world consists of the elements of consciousness."

David Chalmers, Cognitive Scientist and Philosopher at NYU - "Consciousness doesn't dangle outside the physical world as some kind of extra, it's there right at its heart,"

William Tiller, Professor Emeritus at Stanford University - "Consciousness lifts the higher thermodynamic free energy state [of the vacuum level], then we can access the physics of the vacuum," Tiller says. "Accessing that new physics allows intention to bring forth effects you wouldn't imagine."


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/893101-8-scientists-contemplate-place-of-human-consciousness-in-science/

Interesting comment: "Accessing that new physics allows intention to bring forth effects you wouldn't imagine."

Maybe some of us CAN imagine...

There's a lot more at the link.



Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

Maybe we shouldn't be looking quite so hard for the God particle - it could destroy the universe, warns Stephen Hawking

The Higgs boson 'God particle' could destroy the universe, Hawking says
Space and time could suddenly collapse - and 'we would not see it coming'
If scientists put too much energy in the Higgs boson the universe could end
Disaster very unlikely as physicists do not have large enough collider

Prof Hawking wrote: 'The Higgs potential has the worrisome feature that it might become megastable at energies above 100bn giga-electron-volts (GeV).

'This could mean that the universe could undergo catastrophic vacuum decay, with a bubble of the true vacuum expanding at the speed of light.

'This could happen at any time and we wouldn't see it coming.'

Scientists believe that a fraction of a second after the Big Bang that gave birth to the universe, an invisible energy field, called the Higgs field, formed.

This has been described as a kind of 'cosmic treacle' across the universe. As particles passed through it, they picked up mass, giving them size and shape and allowing them to form the atoms that make up you, everything around you and everything in the universe.



Professor John Ellis, a theoretical physicist at Cern, said: 'One thing should be made clear. The discovery of the Higgs boson at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) did not cause this problem, and collisions at the LHC could not trigger the instability, because their energies are far too low.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html

allowing them to form the atoms that make up you, everything around you and everything in the universe.

Again, everything we observe is post-collapse, from wave form, into the universe we can observe.  We exist  downstream from that instant of physical manifestation.  We can transcend that process and experience the pure energy state of creation.  That is the realm of the clockwork elves.



Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

Researchers describe the wavefunction of Schroedinger's cat

Schrödinger's cat highlights a long-standing dilemma in quantum mechanics: is the cat really alive and dead, or is the weirdness just in our head?
Researchers at The University of Queensland have now made major progress in answering this question.
Using four-dimensional states of photons, and subjecting them to very precise measurements, they ruled out the popular view that describing the cat as dead and alive is just due to a lack of knowledge about its real state.
As with all objects in quantum physics, the cat is described by the quantum wavefunction.
Dr Alessandro Fedrizzi, from the UQ School of Mathematics and Physics, explains that although the quantum wavefunction is our central tool for describing physical systems in quantum mechanics, it is still unclear what it actually is.
"Does it only represent our limited knowledge about the real state of a system, or is it in direct correspondence with this reality?
"And is there any objective reality at all?"



This debate has remained purely theoretical for decades, until three teams of quantum theorists—including co-authors Dr Cyril Branciard and Dr Eric Cavalcanti—recently proposed experimental tests to answer this question.
"The new approach tests whether the competing interpretations of the wavefunction can explain why we cannot tell quantum states apart with certainty, which is a central feature of quantum mechanics," says lead author Mr Martin Ringbauer.
"Our results suggest that, if there is objective reality, the wavefunction corresponds to this reality."
In other words, Schrödinger's cat really is in a state of being both alive and dead.
As measurements improve further, physicists will be left with two possible interpretations of the wavefunction: either the wavefunction is completely real, or nothing is.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-02-wavefunction-schroedinger-cat.html#jCp

Wavefunction corresponds to this reality...how to know the waveform?  Samadhi. 

Either the wavefunction is completely real, or nothing is.  There is no spoon.  It's all Maya.



Cosmo

And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

#40
The Reality of Quantum Weirdness

Is there a true story, or is our belief in a definite, objective, observer-independent reality an illusion?

This very question, brought into sharper, scientific focus, has long been the subject of debate in quantum physics. Is there a fixed reality apart from our various observations of it? Or is reality nothing more than a kaleidoscope of infinite possibilities?

This month, a paper published online in the journal Nature Physics presents experimental research that supports the latter scenario — that there is a "Rashomon effect" not just in our descriptions of nature, but in nature itself.

Over the past hundred years, numerous experiments on elementary particles have upended the classical paradigm of a causal, deterministic universe. Consider, for example, the so-called double-slit experiment. We shoot a bunch of elementary particles — say, electrons — at a screen that can register their impact. But in front of the screen, we place a partial obstruction: a wall with two thin parallel vertical slits. We look at the resulting pattern of electrons on the screen. What do we see?

If the electrons were like little pellets (which is what classical physics would lead us to believe), then each of them would go through one slit or the other, and we would see a pattern of two distinct lumps on the screen, one lump behind each slit. But in fact we observe something entirely different: an interference pattern, as if two waves are colliding, creating ripples.

Astonishingly, this happens even if we shoot the electrons one by one, meaning that each electron somehow acts like a wave interfering with itself, as if it is simultaneously passing through both slits at once.

So an electron is a wave, not a particle? Not so fast. For if we place devices at the slits that "tag" the electrons according to which slit they go through (thus allowing us to know their whereabouts), there is no interference pattern. Instead, we see two lumps on the screen, as if the electrons, suddenly aware of being observed, decided to act like little pellets.

To test their commitment to being particles, we can tag them as they pass through the slits — but then, using another device, erase the tags before they hit the screen. If we do that, the electrons go back to their wavelike behavior, and the interference pattern miraculously reappears.

There is no end to the practical jokes we can pull on the poor electron! But with a weary smile, it always shows that the joke is on us. The electron appears to be a strange hybrid of a wave and a particle that's neither here and there nor here or there. Like a well-trained actor, it plays the role it's been called to perform. It's as though it has resolved to prove the famous Bishop Berkeley maxim "to be is to be perceived."

Does the wave function directly correspond to an objective, observer-independent physical reality, or does it simply represent an observer's partial knowledge of it?

If the wave function is merely knowledge-based, then you can explain away odd quantum phenomena by saying that things appear to us this way only because our knowledge of the real state of affairs is insufficient. But the new paper in Nature Physics gives strong indications (as a result of experiments using beams of specially prepared photons to test certain statistical properties of quantum measurements) that this is not the case. If there is an objective reality at all, the paper demonstrates, then the wave function is in fact reality-based.

What this research implies is that we are not just hearing different "stories" about the electron, one of which may be true. Rather, there is one true story, but it has many facets, seemingly in contradiction, just like in "Rashomon." There is really no escape from the mysterious — some might say, mystical — nature of the quantum world.

But what, if anything, does all this mean for us in our own lives? We should be careful to recognize that the weirdness of the quantum world does not directly imply the same kind of weirdness in the world of everyday experience. That's because the nebulous quantum essence of individual elementary particles is known to quickly dissipate in large ensembles of particles (a phenomenon often referred to as "decoherence"). This is why, in fact, we are able to describe the objects around us in the language of classical physics.

Rather, I suggest that we regard the paradoxes of quantum physics as a metaphor for the unknown infinite possibilities of our own existence. This is poignantly and elegantly expressed in the Vedas: "As is the atom, so is the universe; as is the microcosm, so is the macrocosm; as is the human body, so is the cosmic body; as is the human mind, so is the cosmic mind."




http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/opinion/sunday/the-reality-of-quantum-weirdness.html?_r=1

If there is an objective reality at all, the paper demonstrates, then the wave function is in fact reality-based.

What this research implies is that we are not just hearing different "stories" about the electron, one of which may be true. Rather, there is one true story, but it has many facets, seemingly in contradiction, just like in "Rashomon." There is really no escape from the mysterious — some might say, mystical — nature of the quantum world.


Yes!  A wave universe.  Everything we observe is post wave collapse.  A direct experience, pre-collapse is possible through meditaiion and that experience is Samadhi.  Mankind isn't destroying the universe, mankind is CREATING the universe we observe!  Observer created reality.  Maya.



expressed in the Vedas: "As is the atom, so is the universe; as is the microcosm, so is the macrocosm; as is the human body, so is the cosmic body; as is the human mind, so is the cosmic mind."

From subatomic to cosmic...

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO



Quantum experiment verifies Einstein's 'spooky action at a distance'

An experiment devised in Griffith University's Centre for Quantum Dynamics has for the first time demonstrated Albert Einstein's original conception of "spooky action at a distance" using a single particle.

In a paper published in the journal Nature Communications, CQD Director Professor Howard Wiseman and his experimental collaborators at the University of Tokyo report their use of homodyne measurements to show what Einstein did not believe to be real, namely the non-local collapse of a particle's wave function.
According to quantum mechanics, a single particle can be described by a wave function that spreads over arbitrarily large distances, but is never detected in two or more places.
This phenomenon is explained in quantum theory by what Einstein disparaged in 1927 as "spooky action at a distance", or the instantaneous non-local collapse of the wave function to wherever the particle is detected.

Almost 90 years later, by splitting a single photon between two laboratories, scientists have used homodyne detectors—which measure wave-like properties—to show the collapse of the wave function is a real effect.
This phenomenon is the strongest yet proof of the entanglement of a single particle, an unusual form of quantum entanglement that is being increasingly explored for quantum communication and computation.
"Einstein never accepted orthodox quantum mechanics and the original basis of his contention was this single-particle argument. This is why it is important to demonstrate non-local wave function collapse with a single particle," says Professor Wiseman.
"Einstein's view was that the detection of the particle only ever at one point could be much better explained by the hypothesis that the particle is only ever at one point, without invoking the instantaneous collapse of the wave function to nothing at all other points.
"However, rather than simply detecting the presence or absence of the particle, we used homodyne measurements enabling one party to make different measurements and the other, using quantum tomography, to test the effect of those choices."
"Through these different measurements, you see the wave function collapse in different ways, thus proving its existence and showing that Einstein was wrong."


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-quantum-einstein-spooky-action-distance.html#jCp



The collapse of the wave function is a real effect.  Einstein was wrong.  I'll take that cup of tea now. 

COSMO
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Dyna

Quote'Eventually, we'll be able to control the dynamics of chemical reactions with lasers instead of just mixing reactant one with reactant two and letting the reaction evolve on its own,' he said.

So actually eventually with understanding the reaction could be controlled with a thought?
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

COSMO

Quote from: Dyna on March 27, 2015, 06:41:51 PM
So actually eventually with understanding the reaction could be controlled with a thought?

First, what is thought?  It is electro-chemical reactions in the brain.  All atoms, electrons and molecules, fixed stuff in space/time, all post collapse from the quantum wave.  The instantaneous, non-local collapse of the quantum wave into a particle is real and it is faster than light.  So, the mechanisms of thought are all post collapse and unable to influence the pre-collapse state of creation.  All your thoughts, wants and desires are an instant removed from the act of physical creation.   Secondly, the collapse happens faster than light.  Can you "think" that fast?  Can you enact your wants and desires faster than the wave can collapse?  LOL  Clearly THAT would not be the case.   Look into the nature of the SIDDHIS.  They cannot be attained through want or desire.



Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

ANYTHING is possible...

The mysterious world of quantum physics is overturning centuries of scientific conviction. The primary revelation: Anything is possible.

The "observer effect" is a term that refers to what happens when something is observed... it changes. For instance, to check the air pressure in a tire you must use an instrument that immediately releases air, which means that you never get a completely accurate reading. But this example trivializes the impact that the quality of our consciousness has when brought to focus through attention/intention.

A companion term in quantum physics is the "uncertainty principle," described this way by Wikipedia: "...it states that the more precisely the position of some particle is determined, the less precisely its momentum can be known, and vice versa."

Together, these two principles invite a radically different understanding of what's going on at the sub atomic level. Gone are those little balls rotating around a stable center. Welcome the waves. Scientists now inform us that energy exists in both waves and particles and that the act of observation can temporarily congeal waves into particles. The new convention says: The observer influences what is observed. But what is seldom further considered are the differences in influence on the observed because of differences in the observer. This inquiry zooms us out from that invisible world into our real time human experience and poses new questions: Who is looking and how are they looking? It matters.

When someone develops the ability to sustain a genuine meditative state, it transforms the nature and the potency of their attention and develops an accumulating, powerful impact on their 3D experience.

Any person who has developed the ability to focus, to direct their thoughts and feelings in a non-egoic way by harmonizing themselves within the oneness of universal consciousness, becomes a magician of life. Miraculous events can unfold -- anything can happen -- because of the quality of one's looking. Many unexplainable events can be explained this way: what happened (something that defied logic) happened that way because of who was watching.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/master-charles-cannon/anything-is-possible_1_b_7136828.html

Observation collapses the quantum wave.  Observer created reality...MAYA.
When the machinery of observation is halted the Eternal Illumination is revealed...Brahman.



Cosmo





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