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Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

Started by spacemaverick, March 11, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

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spacemaverick

I have seen this theory.  It is a remote possibility that it might be correct.  The window however is in the original picture if you look close enough you will see it's outline.  The original was taken at a lower angle by the camera and the one supposedly photo-shopped was taken at a higher angle.  I don't believe the picture was photo-shopped.  However, One way to find out if this indeed 370 would be serial numbers on parts.  Are they MH-17 or 370?  During manufacture serialized parts are used on portions of the aircraft and these parts are followed during manufacture which includes inspector stamps in paperwork which follows the part all the way through the process.  A simple comparison can be made to see if this is indeed the lost 370.  I worked for Colt Industries at a place (now closed) called Menasco Manufacturing (A division of Colt) and we manufactured landing gears and shuttle parts.  I also worked for a metal shop that did B1B leading edge for the wings and 737 floor beams.  Parts are numbered and some serialized for tracking even to the point that future maintenance men who service the aircraft will know the history of the part....So if we could get this particular check done on the parts we would have the truth.  That would be for sure evidence because you cannot cover-up all the serialized parts for an aircraft.  Contractors and even subcontractors keep records of the parts manufactured.

I would challenge the investigators to find some of these parts (don't need many) and compare them with records and finally put this theory to rest or confirm it.  It's not that hard to do...question is...would someone pick up the investigative ball and run with it?????
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spacemaverick

Could hacking a network through the wi-fi on board an aircraft been the cause of a possible hijacking of MH-370's  flight systems?  Is it even possible?  Universities recently have determined through their own testing that cars with internet can be hijacked and controlled.  A recent Criminal Minds TV series had one episode where they showed a person on the ground took control of an airliner from the ground.  Of course it's just TV or was someone trying to say something through that episode?  Here is an article that indicates that authorities are actually giving it some serious thought.

http://www.wired.com/2015/04/fbi-tsa-warn-airlines-tampering-onboard-wifi/

IN RESPONSE TO reports last week that passenger Wi-Fi networks make some planes vulnerable to hacking, the FBI and TSA have issued an alert to airlines advising them to be on the lookout for evidence of tampering or network intrusions.

The FBI and TSA note that they currently have no information to support claims that an attacker could commandeer a plane's navigation system through the passenger Wi-Fi or IFE (In Flight Entertainment) networks, but they are taking the claims seriously. They are currently evaluating the evidence to determine if there is a credible threat posed by intrusions into the networks of passenger planes.

The alert, posted to the FBI's InfraGard site as a private industry notification (or PIN), advises airline staff to be on the lookout for signs that any passengers might be trying to connect to the network ports located beneath their seats.

"Although the media claims remain theoretical and unproven, the media publicity associated with these statements may encourage actors to use the described intrusion methods," the alert notes. "Attempting to gain unauthorized access to the onboard networks of a commercial aircraft violates federal law."

The FBI/TSA alert comes on the heels of a tweet sent out last week by security researcher Chris Roberts while aboard a United Airlines flight from Chicago to Syracuse. Roberts tweeted a joke about accessing his airplane's network to see if he could play with passenger oxygen masks. He was met by FBI agents when he landed in Syracuse, who seized his laptop and other electronics.

Roberts sent out his joke tweet in response to a report released last week by the Government Accountability Office indicating that unsecured connections between the passenger Wi-Fi networks and the avionics systems on some Boeing and Airbus planes could make it possible for a hacker to gain access to navigational controls and commandeer a plane.

definitely more information at the link......
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08rubicon

   This theory was first discussed on post # 9, page # 1. It is a possible
reason for germanwings, mh370, and several others. Seems there were
some passingers that were working on just such a system on flight 370.
   Maybe someone with a better memory can elaborate on this possibility.
    rubicon   

spacemaverick

Quote from: 08rubicon on April 22, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
   This theory was first discussed on post # 9, page # 1. It is a possible
reason for germanwings, mh370, and several others. Seems there were
some passingers that were working on just such a system on flight 370.
   Maybe someone with a better memory can elaborate on this possibility.
    rubicon

It seems the Federal people are finally admitting that this is a real possibility....
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Pimander

Quote from: 08rubicon on April 22, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
   This theory was first discussed on post # 9, page # 1. It is a possible
reason for germanwings, mh370, and several others. Seems there were
some passingers that were working on just such a system on flight 370.
   Maybe someone with a better memory can elaborate on this possibility.
    rubicon
Well does anyone know the names of these passengers so we can look into their background and check or is this.  I hate to be pushy but this is just rambling without some facts.

spacemaverick

Sorry about the rambling.  I just injected some information that the authorities are finally admitting that it is possible to hack into the electronics.  They  (the authorities) did not admit that before.  I will look and see if I can find a valid list of passengers but it may be hard to find out their backgrounds unless someone has published the information.
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RUSSO

Quote from: spacemaverick on April 22, 2015, 08:04:37 PM
... finally admitting that it is possible to hack into the electronics.  They  (the authorities) did not admit that before.

Was not a US warship hacked by a Russian Jetfighter last year?

QuoteA Russian Plane Zaps U.S. Warship's Missile Defense System

QuoteAn unarmed Russian bomber in April flew over a high-tech U.S. ship. A crew member pressed a button. Poof! No more missile defense system on the ship. No more radar. The ship became a defenseless floating coffin.
http://teapartyeconomist.com/2014/11/13/russian-plane-zaps-u-s-warships-missile-defense-system/

If this is true, imagine what can be done against civil ones. Not just in sea, but in the air too.  :-\
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Dyna

Quote from: 08rubicon on April 22, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
   This theory was first discussed on post # 9, page # 1. It is a possible
reason for germanwings, mh370, and several others. Seems there were
some passingers that were working on just such a system on flight 370.
   Maybe someone with a better memory can elaborate on this possibility.
    rubicon
Freescale Semiconductor, which makes powerful microchips for industries including defence, released the powerful new products to the American market on March 3.
QuoteA US technology company which had 20 senior staff on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar systems in the days before the Boeing 777 went missing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/465557/Malaysian-plane-20-on-board-worked-for-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company

I wonder if the helicopter could be related in any way.
QuoteKilling Top Government Official ... Jarjis, member of Malaysian parliament and former Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation
A former Minister of Science of Malaysia, who also was a former ambassador to the US
http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150404/1020477553.html
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spacemaverick

Okay, here is the list with more than just the name on the passenger manifest.  Go to this link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/names-faces-aboard-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-article-1.1739217

I will try and see if I can dig up more information about some of the passengers but it may take some time to find the information (if it is available).
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zorgon

Have we figured out why Malaysia yet?

Joe Resnick went to Malaysia on a science trip (paid tenure) He almost was on that missing plane.  The odd thing was the second one happened shortly after he got back...

Coincidence I am sure :P But why Malaysia suddenly?

RUSSO

Quote from: zorgon on April 22, 2015, 10:19:01 PM
Have we figured out why Malaysia yet?

Joe Resnick went to Malaysia on a science trip (paid tenure) He almost was on that missing plane.  The odd thing was the second one happened shortly after he got back...

Coincidence I am sure :P But why Malaysia suddenly?

Maybe this?

QuoteKuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission

QuoteIn November 2011 the tribunal purportedly exercised universal jurisdiction to try in absentia former US President George W. Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, convicting both for crimes against peace because of what the tribunal concluded was the unlawful invasion of Iraq.[7][8][9]

In May 2012 after hearing testimony for a week from victims of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, the tribunal unanimously convicted in absentia former President Bush, former Vice President Dick Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former Deputy Assistant Attorneys General John Yoo and Jay Bybee, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, and former counselors David Addington and William Haynes II of conspiracy to commit war crimes, specifically torture.[10] The tribunal referred their findings to the chief prosecutor at the International Court of Justice in the Hague.[11]

In November 2013, the tribunal convicted State of Israel guilty of genocide of the Palestinian people and convicted former Israeli general Amos Yaron for crimes against humanity and genocide for his involvement in the Sabra and Shatila massacre.[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur_War_Crimes_Commission

:-\
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spacemaverick

Here is a list of passengers that have tech backgrounds and traveling on business also:

FREESCALE SEMICONDUCTOR

1.  Huajin Guan - Malaysian - age 34
2.  Wenjie Guan - Chinese - age 35
3.  Yi Huang - Chinese - age 30
4.  Lee Kah Kim - Malaysian - age 32
5.  Suhaili Mustafa - Malaysian - age 31 - Freescale Executive - Scouting for a new location for factory.
6.  Lee Sew Chew - Malaysian - age 55
7.  Safuan Ramlan - Malaysian - age 32 - headed for a training course for Freescale.
8.  Tong Soon Lee - Malaysian - age 31
9.  Yap Chee Meng - Malaysian - age 39
10. Musi Yusop - Malaysian - age 50 - Freescale production manager

IRANIANS ON STOLEN PASSPORTS

1.  Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad - age 19 - trying to migrate to Germany where mother lives
2.  Delavar Seyed Mohammad Reza - seeking German assylum

CHINESE TELECOMMUNICATIONS ZET CORPORATION
1.  Yanlin Li - Chinese engineer

CHINA MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
1.  Dr. Jianwu Zhang - Chinese - age 31...recently obtained his doctorate...

PASSENGER

1.  Mohd Khairl Amri Selamat - 10 years experience as a Flight Engineer - didn't say who he worked for...
2.  Phillip Wood - IBM executive

I went through the entire list, I did not list the crew, I chose those from Freescale and any other company mentioned that might have or does have a Technology background and anything else that may have stood out.
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spacemaverick

Freescale locations with Headquarters in Austin Texas:


http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/homepage.jsp?code=GLOBAL_SITES

http://media.freescale.com/media-center/executive-biographies.aspx

http://ir.freescale.com/investor-relations.aspx

17,000 employees in 20 countries

More than 6,000 patent families

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/video_vault/videoSummary.sp?code=COMPANY-INTRO-VID

Freescale is a company that touches many markets and applications. Our product portfolio spans processors, sensors, power management and connectivity. Our solutions help make the world a smarter place. How do we define Freescale? Watch the video.

Check out the sites and you will find out what the company is doing and the products they carry...along with the patents.


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