Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

Was not a US warship hacked by a Russian Jetfighter last year?
http://teapartyeconomist.com/2014/11/13/russian-plane-zaps-u-s-warships-missile-defense-system/

If this is true, imagine what can be done against civil ones. Not just in sea, but in the air too. 

One of the things I do know from working on metal shelters for electronics is that they have to be sealed so that electronic signals don't get out from the inside and that nobody can get signals into the shelter.  The shelters are tractor trailer style and are shielded specifically so that signals don't get in or out.  If there is is equipment not shielded correctly than the equipment becomes vulnerable to anything.  The way the equipment is tested is by putting a transmitter on the outside and a receiver on the inside and vice versa to see if there is any leakage.  Really interesting stuff.  I can't go into details about what it was I was working on but it was part of my job helping build one of those shelters.  I guess I am the curious sort and not only did my job but wanted to know why we did certain work and what was the purpose of what we were doing.  Some electronics depending on who is having you do the job put electronics into something like a Faraday cage to protect information from getting out and keeping any influence on the outside getting in.

[zorgon]

A B-52 bomber sits atop the TRESTLE electromagnetic pulse (EMP)  simulator at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico

The facility is the largest wood-and-glue laminated structure in the world. Aircraft tested here are subjected to up to 10 million volts of electricity to simulate the effects of a nuclear explosion and assess the "hardness" of electrical and electronic equipment to the EMP pulse generated by a nuclear burst. Credit: U.S. Air Force (courtesy Natural Resource Defense Council)

R. writes:

The wooden trestle is the world's largest all-wood structure. 


J. writes:

Facility 2 at Kirtland is the "Trestle," a huge wooden structure used to support large aircraft while they were subjected to electromagnetic pulse simulations.

[spacemaverick]

EMP affects equipment but even your keyboard on you computer emits pulses and they are easier to find out what key is being pressed if the keyboard is wireless.  Computing equipment like any electronic equipment give off pulses which can be picked up by receivers and interpreted.  That's why the equipment in the metal shelters were made the way they were.  There can be vulnerabilities if the job is not performed correctly.  Zorgon gave us a look into EMP vulnerabilities in his entry.  They have to guard against these also.  Commercial aircraft like the airliners are not hardened as such and can be in danger.

[RUSSO]

Really interesting stuff.  I can't go into details about what it was I was working on but it was part of my job helping build one of those shelters.

It really is spacemaverick. Thanks for the information.

Although, now I am curious about what projects you worked. 

A glance into your avatar and 

[spacemaverick]

Russo, I wasn't an engineer or anything like that.  Some of my work in the military had to do with being a Nuclear, Biological and Chemical NCO.  I am the type of person along the way that read books a lot.  It was usually about things I worked with in the military.  I have been a machinist working on landing gears, a metal worker working on shelters, I have worked with computers when they first came out etc....some of the mechanical and electrical engineers I worked with I would ask many questions about what we were doing so that how my knowledge base grew.  I was not content with just doing a job but wanted to know more.  Part of my education and interest about rockets and missiles came from living on the Space Coast in Florida and the rest from being an Army guy stationed on an Air Base in Europe.  I asked questions and basically wouldn't shut up.

During a time that I had gotten hurt during my law enforcement career (2011) I decided to spend my time digging into all things dealing with spacecraft, aircraft, radiation and many other things.  Guess where I started digging?  I found the Living Moon website from being on another forum.  Many different people with many different fields of study and I dug in early on and learned more.  I do have a 4 year degree but not in any technology along with almost another 2 year degree in criminal justice.

I just have an insatiable desire for more knowledge and my major interest have been things of mystery dealing with aircraft and aircraft crashes where a cause is not readily available.  That's basically how I ended up at this point.  This particular flight and it's disappearance with an aircraft loaded with technology still disappears off the face of the earth and nothing is found is one of the deepest mysteries I have encountered to date.  That's why I went into this particular subject.  I had no idea that this thread would grow to this.  Everyone has contributed to this subject...a sort of crowd sourcing investigation.  Many minds looking at one subject...someone has hit on the answer...others are watching this forum because of the level of seriousness regarding some of the subject matter on both the site and the forum. I guess we not only broaden our horizons as far as knowledge is concerned but also help inform people who may just be passing by.

Maybe one of us will have that proverbial light bulb light up and help solve this mystery and then learn what we can do to prevent another one from happening.....there is something very strange going on with this and I want to know what it is.....

[spacemaverick]

I am currently looking into the Prime Minister of Malaysia, the helicopter crash with his chief of staff, a murder by the former body guard of the Prime Minister and see if all this is to cover up a crime of some sort.  I have to start somewhere and just compile what I can from anywhere I can and hope I find that common thread.

I think one of the reasons that the Malaysian government is not forthcoming with any great help...bringing out to much information may accidentally reveal some things about their upper level government that they don't want brought out...my opinion of course.  I still think that MH-370 did not crash...my opinion once again.

If I ever receive a visit from MIB then I will know I must be getting close to something.

[RUSSO]

Russo, I wasn't an engineer or anything like that.  Some of my work in the military had to do with being a Nuclear, Biological and Chemical NCO... 

After that, I'm sure anyone close to you will find thenselves lucky. Very nice "curriculum". Im glad you here with us.

Maybe one of us will have that proverbial light bulb light up and help solve this mystery and then learn what we can do to prevent another one from happening.....there is something very strange going on with this and I want to know what it is.....

I totally agree with you. Very suspicious!

These days I read somewhere I dont remember, that relatives still call the phones. Really sad thing.

Really hope wake up someday and read about this mistery (in fact, tragedy) being solved.

Thanks for all your work.

[RUSSO]

I am currently looking into the Prime Minister of Malaysia, the helicopter crash with his chief of staff, a murder by the former body guard of the Prime Minister and see if all this is to cover up a crime of some sort.  I have to start somewhere and just compile what I can from anywhere I can and hope I find that common thread.

You know, sometimes i tend to believe this whole Malaysia situation may have some to do with political revenge. But then I think that for that, human beings would have to be so cheap, it would be really depressing.

...  I still think that MH-370 did not crash...my opinion once again.

My opinion too.

[Dyna]

So if this is correct about the helicopter occupants, even with the time lapse between the plane and helicopter it seems strange

CHINA MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
1.  Dr. Jianwu Zhang - Chinese - age 31...recently obtained his doctorate...

Jarjis, member of Malaysian parliament and former Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation

A former Malaysian Minister of Tech and a Chinese Minister also.

[spacemaverick]

NO UPDATE ON 370 BUT WE DO HAVE THIS LITTLE VIDEO REGARDING AN INCIDENT AND THE MENTIONING OF REMOTELY CONTROLLED AIRCRAFT:

From the Corbett Report:





Bits and pieces of a puzzle placed together will add up to a larger picture.

6  minutes of the 17 on the video are dealing with the remote control and it's possibilities.

[Dyna]

BREAKING News: Flight 370 Passenger Managed to Send Photo From Hidden iPhone Tracing Back to U.S. Military Base Diego Garcia

I just came across this, is this website unreliable?
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/breking-news-flight-370-passenger.html

Busted! MH-17 Was in Fact the 'Lost' Flight MH-370 -- Updates
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-in-fact-lost-flight-mh.html

[ArMaP]

BREAKING News: Flight 370 Passenger Managed to Send Photo From Hidden iPhone Tracing Back to U.S. Military Base Diego Garcia

I just came across this, is this website unreliable?
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/breking-news-flight-370-passenger.html

Busted! MH-17 Was in Fact the 'Lost' Flight MH-370 -- Updates
http://humansarefree.com/2014/07/busted-mh-17-was-in-fact-lost-flight-mh.html

That's old news, as you can see by the part that says "7-days ago, on March 24, 2014", and doesn't have any thing to support it. Also, what they say about the EXIF data isn't true, it's easy to change it to what we want, and a photo in a dark room with an exposure time of 1/15 of a second doesn't make much sense, unless that's the best the I-Phone can do.

Edit: I forgot to say that it looks like that site is one of those that just gather information from other sites and republishes it.

[Pimander]

Also, what they say about the EXIF data isn't true,

I've never understood why people are impressed by EXIF data when it is so easy to edit.

[Dyna]

That's old news, as you can see by the part that says "7-days ago, on March 24, 2014", and doesn't have any thing to support it. Also, what they say about the EXIF data isn't true, it's easy to change it to what we want, and a photo in a dark room with an exposure time of 1/15 of a second doesn't make much sense, unless that's the best the I-Phone can do.

Edit: I forgot to say that it looks like that site is one of those that just gather information from other sites and republishes it.

Thanks, it is old but new to me, I had never seen or heard any of that before that I recall.

[spacemaverick]

This thread has gotten to 64 pages and there is a lot of information in the thread itself.  I'm still looking at the political climate in Malaysia at the time and I have some suspicions but nothing that can be proven.  There is circumstantial evidence regarding what happened but without definitive evidence everything is simply speculation.  Keep digging though...all of us have come up with different theories and you may ned up finding out something we all missed.