Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[ArMaP]

Try rewording the question.

It's hard (at least to me) to reword "Could you explain the reference to 'Remote In Flight Tuning'".

As you have said English is NOT your 1st language.

Or even the second.

I guess I am uneducated, not understanding your language ....   

It's not a question of education.

Tuning Systems and Data logging often go together...

I suppose they do.

No point in using Data Logging IF you are NOT going to use the data, now is there ?

True, but data can be used to many things, tuning is just one of those.

I would have thought, that was easy to understand ?

Well, I suppose you were wrong, then.

PS: I have never used logs to make any tuning, for that I use counters, as those are usually more specific and real time, while logs are more for large volumes of data that may not be used, like security logs that are only used when looking for something.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Matrix.. are we saying the same thing with different words?

Often "Data Logging" (Recording Information from Engine Sensors, Accelerometers,
and many other sensors around the aircraft only engineers are interested in apart from
the running of an aircraft Co.)


Research and development does NOT stop, when an aircraft has been assembled.

Aircraft behaviour as well as Engine performance, are key factors in an airline Co. being profitable.

So just as a pilot trims his aircraft during flight ,it is also in the Engineers and Co. interests to trim
aircraft performance, affecting both maintenance, fuel economy, safety and Comfort.

All these involve Co. Productivity and Profitability.


I suppose you could say this involves sort of like updates.

MS Windows for example often deliver software updates, as do others while you are using your Computer.
 

[The Matrix Traveller]

No point in using Data Logging IF you are NOT going to use the data, now is there ?

ArMap

True, but data can be used to many things, tuning is just one of those.

TMT.  I would have thought, that was easy to understand ?

ArMap

Well, I suppose you were wrong, then.

TMT. I guess I was.   

PS: I have never used logs to make any tuning, for that I use counters, as those are usually more specific and real time,

TMT.  Counters are limited to their own uses...

Data Loggers have a different use but counters are often part of the process ...   

ArMap 

while logs are more for large volumes of data that may not be used, like security logs that are only used when looking for something.

NOT True !

Hmmmmm Data Logger...

The earlier systems see link below but there has wince been advancement in their applications.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_logger

A data logger (also datalogger or data recorder) is an electronic device that records data over time
or in relation to location either with a built in instrument or sensor or via external instruments and sensors.

Increasingly, but not entirely, they are based on a digital processor (or computer).

They generally are small, battery powered, portable, and equipped with a microprocessor,
internal memory for data storage, and sensors.

Some data loggers interface with a personal computer and utilize software to activate the data logger
and view and analyze the collected data, while others have a local interface device (keypad, LCD)
and can be used as a stand-alone device.

Data loggers vary between general purpose types for a range of measurement applications
to very specific devices for measuring in one environment or application type only.

It is common for general purpose types to be programmable; however, many remain as static machines
with only a limited number or no changeable parameters.

lectronic data loggers have replaced chart recorders in many applications.

One of the primary benefits of using data loggers is the ability to automatically collect data
on a 24-hour basis.

Upon activation, data loggers are typically deployed and left unattended to measure
and record information for the duration of the monitoring period.

This allows for a comprehensive, accurate picture of the environmental conditions being monitored,
such as air temperature and relative humidity.

The cost of data loggers has been declining over the years as technology improves
and costs are reduced. Simple single channel data loggers cost as little as $25.

More complicated loggers may costs hundreds or thousands of dollars.

We often Data Loggers to obtain Data in real time and through remote communication systems
adjust the behaviour of mechanical systems, during their operation.

One of the Computer Systems I used to Manufacture in my own Co. involved Data Loggers
integrated with a base communications system and the ability to make changes,
while a mechanical system was running... such as an engine.

Similar systems can also tune suspension or adjust tyre pressures etc.

Sometimes we used remote communication.... while in other systems used self tuning.

Both used Data Loggers in real time applications !

[spacemaverick]

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/malaysia-to-release-mh370-report-pm-najib-razak-513542

Malaysia to release MH370 report: PM Najib Razak

World | Agence-France Presse | Updated: April 25, 2014 06:46 IST

Kuala Lumpur:  Malaysia will release a preliminary report on the disappearance of flight MH370, Prime Minister Najib Razak said, as the government battles widespread criticism over the transparency of its investigation. (MH370 relatives reject Malaysian conclusions on plane)

"I have directed an internal investigation team of experts to look at the report, and there is a likelihood that next week we could release the report," Razak told CNN in an interview aired late Thursday.

The government was so far been tight-lipped about its investigation into the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines jet, fuelling anger and frustration among the relatives of the 239 people aboard the plane. (False leads in search for missing Malaysia Airlines jet: a long list)


......see above link for rest of story.....

[The Matrix Traveller]

ArMap 

'Remote In Flight Tuning'".

Making changes to the operation of a mechanical system via RF Communications, integrated
with a Control system involving a Mechanical System.

[spacemaverick]

What if?.......

China's capabilities have come out with the disappearance of MH 370...Which nations have not turned over any information regarding 370?  What if this was played out to find out China's capabilities.  370 the pawn?  Probably the wildest theory yet with the exception of aliens and black holes.  See where I am going with this.  Just a wild theory.....

[ArMaP]

No point in using Data Logging IF you are NOT going to use the data, now is there ?

You just need to have a possibility of that data being needed. I have daily backups of the server on the company I work, in the last 8 years I only needed them once.

NOT True !

Hmmmmm Data Logger...

The earlier systems see link below but there has wince been advancement in their applications.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_logger

OK, now I understand it, I thought you were talking about software loggers, as you have been talking about that new software Malaysia Airlines bought.

[spacemaverick]

Malaysia's Prime Minister admits another plane seen on radar and no investigation

CNN is joined by Malaysia's Prime Minister who admits here in the mainstream media that another plane was spotted on radar with MH370 when the flight went missing. With this admission from a Malaysian government official, 'conspiracy theorists' are being vindicated that something was 'amiss' from the start of this 'event' while families of the missing passengers and crew surely have ammunition to take their request for an inquiry to the next level. Who owned the mystery plane seen with flight MH370 on radar? Why was it there? What was it doing? If you had family members on board that plane, what would you be doing now? 

[COSMO]

Malaysia's Prime Minister admits another plane seen on radar and no investigation

CNN is joined by Malaysia's Prime Minister who admits here in the mainstream media that another plane was spotted on radar with MH370 when the flight went missing. With this admission from a Malaysian government official, 'conspiracy theorists' are being vindicated that something was 'amiss' from the start of this 'event' while families of the missing passengers and crew surely have ammunition to take their request for an inquiry to the next level. Who owned the mystery plane seen with flight MH370 on radar? Why was it there? What was it doing? If you had family members on board that plane, what would you be doing now? 





Cosmo

[Eighthman]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/25/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-beacons/

Yes !!!!  Good technical reasons why it may not have crashed.  It may include that '7th ping' stuff.

Woo-Hoo!

[The Matrix Traveller]

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/mh370-search-area-expanded-5942662

MH370 search area to be expanded

Published: 4:16PM Monday April 28, 2014 Source: AP

Australia's Prime Minister says the underwater search for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet
will be expanded.

Tony Abbott told reporters in Canberra today that the US Navy's Bluefin 21 has finished scouring
the initial search area far off the Australian west coast and has not yet found anything.

"It is now 52 days since Malaysia Airlines Fight MH370 disappeared and I'm here to inform you
that the search will be entering a new phase," Abbott said at a news conference.

Radar and satellite data show the jet carrying 239 passengers and crew veered far off course
on March 8 for unknown reasons during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Analysis indicates it would have run out of fuel in the remote section of ocean where the search
has been focused. Not one piece of debris has been recovered since the massive multinational hunt
began.

The Bluefin's original search area was a circle with a 10km radius, 4.5km deep around a spot
where signals consistent with airplane black boxes were heard on April 8.

"I want the families to know, I want the world to know, that Australia will not shirk its responsibilities
in this area. We will do everything we humanly can to solve this mystery," Abbott said.


"We will not let people down and while the search will be moving to a new phase in coming weeks,
it certainly is not ending."

Australian head of the search effort, Angus Houston, said: "We haven't found anything anywhere
that has any connection to MH370."

Just been announced on NZ TV 1,  the Air search has now officially Ended.

NO wreckage has been found !

[spacemaverick]

Thanks for that update.  I guess their next step will be to expand the underwater search with additional underwater vehicles along the supposed flight path?  I still think it is somewhere else....

[The Matrix Traveller]

I still suspect they won't find the 777 in the Indian ocean .....

[spacemaverick]

I still suspect they won't find the 777 in the Indian ocean .....

I am still inclined to agree with that train of thought.

[spacemaverick]

Did Someone Know about Flight 370 before It Disappeared?


Written on 25 April 2014 by Phil Anderson

Did Someone Know about Flight 370 before It Disappeared?


http://www.moneymorning.com.au/20140425/did-someone-know-about-flight-370-before-it-disappeared.html

Remember the trading going on before 9/11?  Remember the put options on stocks for the airlines which owned the airliners?  Well it also looks like some of the same stuff going on with Flight 370 and Malaysian Airlines if I read this article correctly.

Check out the site at the link.  Wish I could find more than one source on this.