Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[WarToad]

Note to self:  Don't ask Sinny for info.  You'll die.

[Amaterasu]

It was footage claiming to have found pics on Google earth that show 370 being escorted by two planes into China with one escort plane "fuzzed out."  Maybe the poster realized that it was not what (S)He claimed it was?  I just posted it here because I thought it was interesting to consider.

[Sinny]

Note to self:  Don't ask Sinny for info.  You'll die.

Wise words young grass hopper. 

[sky otter]

say what   ??   

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/flight-370-philip-woods-girlfriend-sarah-bajc-got-death-threat-n100446?ocid=msnhp&pos=1



Flight 370: Philip Wood's Girlfriend Sarah Bajc Got Death Threats
By Henry Austin

The girlfriend of an American passenger aboard missing Flight MH370 told NBC News she has been the victim of two break-ins, a death threat and numerous unsettling phone calls since the jet vanished.

Sarah Bajc received an instant message warning that "I'm going to come and kill you next" about two weeks after the Malaysia Airlines plane disappeared on March 8. Several pornographic images and creepy phone calls were also received from the same China-based number.

Bajc was preparing to move from Beijing to live with passenger Philip Wood, a 50-year-old Texas native and IBM Malaysia employee, in Kuala Lumpur at the time of the tragedy

"It was just another straw on the camel's back, very upsetting," Bajc told NBC News.

According to Bajc, the calls and messages began shortly after her apartment was broken into for the first time, midway into the second week after the flight disappeared.

"Whoever came wasn't very careful because I'm a real neat freak, so it was immediately apparent to me that some things had been moved," she said. "My housekeeper was out of town so it couldn't have been her and I got home before my son got back. The password on my safe had been reset which happens when you try the wrong code three times."

Bajc added: "The second time was a couple weeks later and my neighbor saw two people leaving my apartment. I have no illusions of privacy here [in Beijing]."

She said the calls stopped after an FBI agent assigned to help her and Wood's family was informed.

Bajc is among 350 family members of passengers aboard the missing jet who have demanded raw data be released for independent analysis amid questions about how the investigation has been conducted.

In an open letter sent to the leaders of Malaysia, China and Australia on Thursday, the relatives questioned how authorities could be certain the Boeing 777 had crashed into the southern Indian Ocean.

Australian officials expect a global team of experts will take about two weeks to review all the data relating to the missing plane.

The Beijing-bound flight was carrying 239 people. More than two months later, no wreckage has been found.


First published May 8 2014, 9:04 AM

[spacemaverick]

Cor tell you, I'll have to kill you 

Now that's funny...I needed some humor for a change.

[ArMaP]

Cor tell you, I'll have to kill you 

What's the difference between you and the NSA?

[Sinny]

What's the difference between you and the NSA?

My secrets are secrets 

[Somamech]

There were no options for me to tick

"I don't know where it is"   

[Ellirium113]

What's the difference between you and the NSA?

She doesn't have quite as many drones.     

[spacemaverick]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/07/aviation-leaders-went-missing-along-with-mh370.html

Aviation Leaders Went Missing Along With MH370

From The Daily Beast

The industry has known for five years how hard it is to find a plane at the bottom of the ocean, yet it's done nothing since.

In the mysterious case of Malaysia Flight 370 there are really two vanishing acts. The first was by the Boeing 777 and the second was by the leadership of the world's aviation industry.

In the U.S. a faulty ignition switch in General Motors' Cobalt car was responsible for killing eight people. When the damning timeline of corporate cover-up and dissembling was revealed, the bosses were called to Washington and given a public roasting.

When 239 people disappear on an airliner, who takes the hot seat?

Because let there be no doubt about it—whatever the cause of this tragedy, it should never be possible in 2014 for an airplane to vanish without a trace.

The aviation industry has known for five years that finding an airliner at the bottom of the ocean is a much more costly challenge than it needs to be.

The loss of Air France 447 in the South Atlantic in 2009 rang all the right alarms. Flight-data recorders and cockpit voice-recorders would never be able to guide searchers to a deep-sea crash location in a timely manner—if at all.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde on fox hunting ("the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible"), the search for Flight 447 presented a picture of the pursuit of the undetectable by the woefully unprepared.

It was a teachable moment though. French investigators rapidly demonstrated that the technology now existed to end the futility of scouring vast oceans for very tiny and unresponsive mechanical objects.

I won't go on. The whole saga of Flight 370 has become a damning revelation of the fact that the international aviation industry really has no leadership—no recognizable, accountable, and responsible leadership. No leadership that is prepared to concede years of needless delay, to acknowledge that a serious flaw exists in the international safety regime.

That is, until today.

Hail the European Aviation Safety Agency, EASA. This is what they now want to happen:

Black boxes aboard large airplanes flying routes over oceans should be much more powerful. They should be capable of transmitting their location no matter how deep they plunge. Or, alternatively, an airplane plunging toward the ocean should be equipped with automatic data streaming that would pin its location to within six nautical miles.

EASA also wants the battery life of the data recorders to be extended from the current 30 days to 90 (that technology is ready).

And that's not all.  The minimum duration of the voice recordings made in the cockpit should leap from the two hours now mandated to 20 hours.

But hold the applause.

EASA is part of one of the world's most notoriously constipated bureaucracies, the European Union. Before the new recommendations can take effect they have to be adopted by the European Commission. And even then they will cover only the 28 member states of the EU.

It must also be said that this is not exactly a great leap forward that embraces cutting-edge technology. These are really enhancements to conventional black boxes. They represent what the administrators think is politically possible, not what is technically desirable and attainable: to remove the dependency on black boxes by equipping all airplanes flying over oceans with the capacity to continually stream data in real time.

In terms of political reality, the most difficult of these recommendations to see through to a conclusion will almost certainly be the striking extension of the duration of the cockpit voice recorders.

Pilots are highly sensitive to the idea of being overheard by what they see as Big Brother vigilance. The pilots unions in both Europe and the U.S. will fight this idea tooth and nail. They fear that some of their idle chatter won't be politically correct. Or, more seriously, that their "oops!" moments when they suffer a lapse of concentration will go on the record.

Their objections should be heard, but they will need to make a more convincing case than one based on an invasion of privacy. The problem with the present two-hour recordings is that while they may serve a crash investigation well by providing a picture of the pilot's proficiency during the critical time preceding an accident in the case of long haul flights, they don't provide the complete record from takeoff, which should be a prerequisite in any investigation.

So, Europe stirs. The executive director of EASA concedes that "the tragic flight of Malaysia Airlines MH370 demonstrates that safety can never be taken for granted. The proposed changes are expected to increase safety by facilitating the recovery of information for safety investigation authorities."

From the rest of the global aviation industry there is not a word.


This article hit the nail on the head.  It seems many entities such a corporations and governments govern themselves in crisis management mode.  Somewhere somehow someone or corporation or government needs to change the way things are done in the aviation industry.  I don't think that will happen.

[spacemaverick]

Someone had mentioned that the NSA had classified the report on MH 370 somewhere in this thread...





http://govtslaves.info/nsa-classifies-mh370-material/

[spacemaverick]

The Flt 370 Lithium-Ion Battery Theory

By Ted Twietmeyer
5-10-14

He shows a copy of the cargo manifest and there was around 2 tones of lithium ion batteries on board...

http://www.rense.com/general96/flt.html

Lithium-ion batteries are well known for their chemical instability which can start 2000F fires. Several Tesla cars and other vehicles burn so hot nothing can put out the fire. Foam and water simply turn to steam.

Here is a page from the cargo manifest - listing 1,990 (Kg?) chargeable weight for a shipment of lithium-ion batteries.

1,990 is in kilograms equals 4,387 POUNDS of lithium-ion batteries - more than 2 tons.

Some may counterclaim that smoke detectors would alert the crew to a fire. But perhaps not. Maybe smoke detector(s) malfunctioned on the flight, the fire destroyed the fire warning system wiring or smoke and  detectors did could not detect the fire where it broke out.

It's very hard to comprehend the market value of this big lithium battery shipment. A aircraft fire would give both the lithium-ion battery industry and the manufacturer a bad reputation if just one related fire brings down a aircraft. Perhaps this is why the cockpit voice was edited? Without a doubt, a lithium fire is hot enough to ignite aluminum all aircraft is constructed of.

In the USA, it is FORBIDDEN by FAA regulations to ship any lithium-ion batteries on a commercial flight due to the threat of fire.

Aluminum melts at 1,221F. Lithium burns far hotter, around 2,000F. Aluminum will catch fire if heated hot enough.

From a scientific paper we learn what can happen to any lithium battery:

If the battery is undergoing a thermal runaway reaction then a explosion or fire is inescapable. In normal use of the battery, the temperature is below 40C. But abusing a cell with a short circuit, overcharge, apply reverse polarity or expose to high temperature, will cause the temperature to rise quickly. When the temperature exceeds 66.5C, more reactions occur and generate more heat to quicken self heating reaction.

Thereafter, if the temperature is over 75C, then the reaction will continue with no return to normal. With increased chain reaction gas and heat are accumulated. Once the inner pressure exceeds the battery endurance, explosion is inescapable. Fragments can easy be ignited and cause fire. [1]

NOTE: Temperatures over 75C is the run-away temperature for lithium batteries - just 167F. Cars, vans and trucks can almost reach this temperature under a hot summer hot sun.

Even if the flight crew discovered the fire in time, it's unlikely they could get close enough to put it out. Note the FIRE warning stated on the manifest for the shipment below:

Ted Twietmeyer

Source of manifest: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-03/voice-recording-missing-flight-mh370-was-edited
[1] - http://www.iafss.org/publications/fss/8/375/view



tedtw@frontiernet.net

http://www.rense.com/general96/batterymanifest.jpg

[Fruitbat]

"It's very hard to comprehend the market value of this big lithium battery shipment."

Well actually it isn't.

Firts we take a TREX450 Lipo battery and weigh it for a reading of 168grams then we go to ebay and get a current retail value, of 20$

Dividing 1990 by 0.168 and multiplying the result by 20bux gives us an approximate insurable value!
236,904.76$ in this case...

And for the second part we need 1 lipo battery, 1 disposable saucepan full of water, 1 open fire in a field, and my trusty infra red thermometer... Don't do this at home folks, (at least not inside your house) and do remember to charge the battery up first, as lipo batteries are always pre-charged before storage.

Rule of thumb, lead acid (car) and lipo batteries are best stored charged and not deep discharged, whereas NI-CAD and (I believe) nimh seem to be stored discharged, and are at their best if fully discharged each time of use, HOWEVER deep dischargeing a battery of ni-cads eventually ruins the weakest one, as it can get reverse charged I am told.

I am told (and have seen the videos) that simply puncturing a fully charged lipo battery with a sharp object will cause it to catch fire.

Stay safe folks.

FB.

[thorfourwinds]

GOLD for that math, Fruity, our friend   



tfw
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FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT CLOCK
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The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima

"In a time of universal deceit
telling the truth is considered a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

[spacemaverick]

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-search-for-malaysian-flight-mh370-heads-to-site-of-first-ping-1986820

Search is going back to area of 1st ping that was heard for a long while.  They are going back with a drone.



The Ocean Shield is heading to the area where a signal was first located and heard for some two hours on April 5, about 1,600 km (1,000 miles) northwest of Perth to launch the Bluefin-21 submersible.

More than two dozen countries have been involved in the hunt for the Boeing 777 that disappeared from radar shortly after taking off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing with 239 people, mostly Chinese, on board in one of the world's greatest aviation mysteries.

Weeks of daily sorties have failed to turn up any trace of the plane, even after narrowing the search to an arc in the southern Indian Ocean. Batteries on the black box voice and data recorders have gone flat.

The search had been centred on a 314-square-km (121-sq-mile) area around the second "ping" located and monitored for about 13 minutes on April 5, and which search authorities identified as their strongest lead.

With the search of that area complete, the focus is shifting to the area where the first, and longer, signal was detected the same day, U.S. Navy Captain Mark Matthews told journalists at a naval base near Perth.

"What you do is you go look at your best indications and you pursue them until they're exhausted," he said. "These things don't happen fast. These searches don't happen on the hours or days cycle. These happen on the weeks and months cycle."

Australia, China and Malaysia earlier this week pledged not to give up searching for the plane, even though air and surface searches for debris have been abandoned.

The Ocean Shield returned to Stirling Naval Base south of Perth earlier this week after more than a month at sea to resupply, change crew and perform software modifications and maintenance on the Bluefin.

The submersible has dived to a maximum depth of 5,005 metres in its daily 20-hour missions to scan the ocean floor using sonar, despite being only designed to dive to 4,500 metres, Matthews said.

With just three weeks left on loan from the U.S. Navy, the pressure is on about how to proceed and who will pay for the next phase of the search. The Ocean Shield, which will take three days to arrive at the search location, is due back in port by the end of the month.

Last week, Malaysia released its most comprehensive account yet of what happened to Flight MH370, detailing the route the plane probably took as it veered off course and the confusion that followed.

The officials have said the focus will be on 60,000 sq km (23,000 sq mile) of seabed in the Indian Ocean that could take a year to search.