Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/if-only-mh370-had-this-flight-tracking-system-which-is-being-installed-by-first-air-in-canada/story-e6frfq80-1226913367388

HERE IS THE ANSWER?

If only MH370 had this flight tracking system, which is being installed by First Air in Canada.


HOW on Earth does a commercial plane vanish in the modern aviation age? 
 
This is the perplexing question that the world is still struggling with, two months after the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

It's hard to fathom the fact that a plane carrying hundreds of people cannot be tracked constantly — and in real time — throughout its entire journey, an issue raised by Malaysian authorities last week in a preliminary report on the shocking incident.

There's still a lot we don't know about what happened to the stricken jet, but the report indicated it was deliberately flown in a westerly direction shortly after it dropped out of radio contact in what's feared was a deliberate attempt to avoid Indonesian air space. It was missing for four hours before Malaysia's Rescue Coordination Centre was activated.

So could a groundbreaking new flight tracking system that's being installed by the tiny Canada-based airline First Air have aided the desperate search for answers?

The new "FLYHTSTream" system was chosen by First Air as it was unsatisfied with the tracking systems already in use by airlines around the world.

Created by Calgary-based FLYHT Aerospace Solutions, the technology will allow the airline to know where its planes are at all times as it can live-streams black box data which can be viewed on television screens on the ground. It's an industry-first move.

"Everybody talks about the black box on an aeroplane, but it is permanently installed on an aeroplane and if (it) goes missing so does the black box," Vic Charlebois, vice president of Flight Operations at the airline told GlobalNews.

"What this technology allows us to do is if the aircraft gets into difficulty the Automated Flight Information Reporting System (AFIRS) will look back 20 seconds from where the event (emergency) occurred and pick up the data from the aeroplane — the same data that is being stored in the black box — and start streaming it to a secure server."

First Air, which flies between Ottawa, Canada, and the Arctic, began to roll out the system two-and-a-half years ago, but only recently announced it was doing so. It's hoped the system will be fully implemented by the end of the month.

What is FLYSTream?

Essentially, the system gives those on the ground constant access to flight data and the cockpit audio recorder in the event of an emergency.

There's a button that pilots can push to notify those on the ground that the flight is in trouble, with data immediately transmitted. Ground staff can also activate the streaming.

"If one of the dispatchers happened to see something unusual going on with the aircraft they could push a button and it would start streaming the data to the ground," Charlebois said.

"Let's take the case of the Malaysian aircraft — if it was being monitored through satellites and a dispatcher did see it wander off course somewhere, the procedure would be to activate the Flight Stream and then contact the crew to see what was going on."

Matt Bradley from FLYHT said had MH370 been fitted with the new system, a range of information would have been available even if it lost power.

"With triggered data transmission, we would know where the aircraft was when AFIRS last had electrical power and we would know the behaviour of the aircraft at all times leading up to the point at which aircraft sensors or data buses lost power, including altitude, attitude, airspeed, direction/heading, engine state, doors open/closed, and many other parameters."

The system also provides alerts on the health of the aircraft, identifying components that may need to undergo maintenance.

At a cost of up to $100,000 to buy and install an AFIRS box and antenna per aircraft, it's not cheap. But keep in mind that a single business class seat can cost this much. It's a small price to pay for safety.

So how does this differ from the current flight tracking system?

The Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) is the standard system used by airlines for the transmission of short messages between aircraft and ground stations that has been used since 1978.

It's a one-way communications system and relies on radar connections or spotty satellite pings, Charlebois said. And First Air simply doesn't have radar available along its routes as it flies into remote locations through harsh weather conditions that take down radio and phone communications for automatic departure and arrival message protocols. They previously relied on this to determine the status of their flights.

Charlebois said the new system gives the airline greater confidence: "AFIRS knows where the aircraft should fly so if it veers more than about 20 miles (32 kilometres) from its path. everyone is alerted."

So why aren't other airlines adopting the system? Skift cites misconceptions in the industry that ACARS already does everything that airlines need. Also, the additional data the new system provided is only needed in rare cases as flying is so safe.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/boeing-wins-patent-uninterruptible-autopilot-system

Boeing wins patent on uninterruptible autopilot system


New technology can be activated by the pilots, government agencies, even on-board sensors; not even a tortured pilot can give up control; dedicated electrical circuits ensure the system's total independence

Although airplane cockpit door locks are now standard, worries remain about terrorists taking control of a plane a la 9/11, perhaps by extorting the pilots into opening the door against their better judgement. Elsewhere in today's issue we report on a new Raytheon contract to develop software that uses type of craft, location, and fuel capacity to determine the safest route for a hijacked or otherwise compromised aircraft. This is a great idea, one that must have Chicago, Illinois-based Boeing excited — not out of envy but because it improves the value of its recently awarded patent for a system that, once activated, takes control of the airplane away from the pilots and flies it to a predtermined landing position. Put the Raytheon and the Boeing systems together — now that's a good idea.

Boeing's is, of course, not the first autopilot technology in existence, but this one has been designed with counterterrorism first and foremost in mind. Not only is it "uninterruptible" — so that even a tortured pilot cannot turn it off — but it can be activated remotely via radio or satellite by government agencies. The system might even include sensors on the cockpit door that activate the autopilot of a certain amount of force is used against it. "There is a need for a technique that ensures the continuation of the desired path of travel of a vehicle by removing any type of human decision process that may be influenced by the circumstances of the situation, including threats or further violence onboard the vehicle," the patent application explains. To make it fully independent, the system also has its own power supply, independent of the aircraft's circuit breakers.

Published 4 December 2006

IS THIS THE AHA MOMENT?

[spacemaverick]

The search has proven several things to me.  The searchers have no idea where to search, the search was all over the map, information was not immediately forthcoming to the searchers in a timely manner and the search off Western Australia was based on the satellite pings coming from one set of satellites using an unproven method.  Searchers went to the South Indian ocean based on calculations of speed and altitude (which cannot be confirmed).  The searchers then changed the area to further North based on a guess that the aircraft was traveling faster at a lower altitude there fore burning more fuel.  Then a ship hears what it thinks is a ping from the black boxes and the search shifts again.  Now they have pings so they launch this remote control sub and still cannot find anything.  Now this comes up:

Searchers fear 'pings' they thought were from missing MH370 were not from the plane at all
Searchers now say 2 of 4 'pings' picked up 'too weak' to be man made
Comes as satellite firm used in search for MH370 offers low-cost tracking system to prevent another flight disappearing
Service to be offered to all commercial aircraft with Inmarsat satellite link
That comprises virtually 100 percent of world's long haul commercial fleet
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has now been missing for two months


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2626106/No-MH370s-Satellite-firm-used-search-missing-plane-offers-low-cost-tracking-prevent-flight-disappearing.html#ixzz31cpVMLQF


MH370 searchers have said electronic 'pings' initially thought to have come from missing Malaysian Airlines flight may not have emanated from the plane at all.

A senior Australian naval officer said he 'increasingly suspects' some of the signals detected last month didn't come from the jetliner's black-box flight recorders, piling further doubts over the search effort.

Australian naval Commander James Lybrand said of four 'pings' picked up by the U.S. Navy's Bluefin-21 autonomous underwater vehicle, two were too weak to have been from a man-made device.


Too weak: A total of four signals, two on Saturday April 5 and two on Tuesday April 8, were detected by the Australian ship Ocean Shield in the search for flight MH370. But two of them now appear to have been too weak to have been from a man-made device.

Search teams picked up two signals on April 5 at a frequency of 33.5kHz before two more were received three days later at 27kHz.

While both are significantly lower than the 37.5kHz frequency black box beacons are designed to emit, the April 5 signals are still possible, down perhaps to weakening batteries or the 'vagaries of deep-sea conditions'.

Cmdr Lybrand, captain of the Ocean Shield vessel, said: 'As far as frequency goes, between 33 kHz and 27 kHz is a pretty large jump.'

He did say the authorities still believe that the two April 5 signals, one of which was held for 2 hours and 20 minutes - are consistent with black-box locator beacons.

Cmdr Lybrand did not give any clues as to what may have emitted the April 8 'pings' if they did not indeed come from MH370.

Dolphins can produce echolocation signals of anywhere between 0.2kHz and 150kHz to obtain sonic information about their environment.


Experts say dolphins' lower frequency vocalizations (between about 0.2 and 50kHz) are likely used in social communication while higher frequency clicks (40 to 150 kHz) are primarily used for spacial awareness.

Days after the signals were detected, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said he was 'very confident' they were from the black box on MH370.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2626106/No-MH370s-Satellite-firm-used-search-missing-plane-offers-low-cost-tracking-prevent-flight-disappearing.html

[spacemaverick]

Satellite firm which was used in search for missing MH370 offers low-cost tracking system to prevent another flight disappearing.  The British firm whose satellites helped track the final route of missing Malaysian Airlines airliner MH370, is to offer a free, basic tracking service to prevent other flights from disappearing.  Inmarsat said today that the service would be offered to all 11,000 commercial passenger aircraft which are already equipped with Inmarsat satellite connection, comprising virtually 100 percent of the world's long haul commercial fleet.  It's launch comes two months after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 went missing without a trace on March 8 with 239 passengers on board.  It still has not been found despite a multi-agency, international search effort, including fruitless analysis by Inmarsat's own network of satellites.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2626106/No-MH370s-Satellite-firm-used-search-missing-plane-offers-low-cost-tracking-prevent-flight-disappearing.html#ixzz31csVeVd6


It was very brief electronic 'pings' from Inmarsat equipment on the lost plane that prompted investigators to look for wreckage in the Indian Ocean.  'In the wake of the loss of MH370, we believe this is simply the right thing to do,' Chief Executive Rupert Pearce said.  'This offer responsibly, quickly and at little or no cost to the industry, addresses in part the problem brought to light by the recent tragic events around MH370.'  It said at its results last week that it would make available free data transfers for a position reporting service.  It would see a plane determine its location using GPS and then transmit that data - together with a heading, speed and altitude - over Inmarsat's global network of satellites every 15 minutes.

Well the technology existed...why didn't you offer it to the world?

[Sinny]

Two months later an im wondering how much energy this subject has cost humanity.

Certainly a diversion, a successful one at that..

[spacemaverick]

Inmarsat says they have released "ALL DATA". The Malaysian Government says they never got it. Really? At Day 70, we are having a "He Said, He Said" stand up comedy routine! In a situation as extraordinary as this, there must be a way for Inmarsat to save the day without any violations by being allowed to release every piece of information and data they have on MH370 from March 1, 2014 onward. Not just the "7 pings", but enough history that can be combined with KNOWN location and time information to allow the analysts to create validated models to then assess the data from March 8th. Not just released to Malaysia, or other liability holders in this case, but to a team of recognised, INDEPENDENT analysts. PLEASE INMARSAT, FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!! What can we do to help you do that?

  This came from the Facebook page "Finding Phillip Wood."  Sarah his girlfriend is running this page.

https://www.facebook.com/findingphilipwood370?fref=nf

[ArMaP]

Inmarsat says they have released "ALL DATA".

That may be true.

The Malaysian Government says they never got it.

That may also be true, the fact that someone releases something is not the same as saying that they gave it to someone else.

[Fruitbat]

Sinny was talking about "energy". I notice that the search is winding down now, (they broke the submersible) and it hardly gets mentioned any more.

Just another month or so and it will all be forgotten.

FB.

[spacemaverick]

Sinny was talking about "energy". I notice that the search is winding down now, (they broke the submersible) and it hardly gets mentioned any more.

Just another month or so and it will all be forgotten.

FB.

And the people will be forgotten.  That's what bothers me the most.  I wish I had access to live satellite feed to look into some areas myself as an independent.  But I will keep watching.....

[WarToad]

I think this is just going to go down as a 2014 mystery for quite some time until some random scientist/explorer stumbles upon a debris field while looking for something entirely else.

[spacemaverick]

I think this is just going to go down as a 2014 mystery for quite some time until some random scientist/explorer stumbles upon a debris field while looking for something entirely else.

I suspect that you are on target with this thought.  There is no solid evidence to work with and it will take someone stumbling across it accidentally to find it.  (crashed or not)

[WarToad]

  (crashed or not)

Exactly.  Ultimately, all theories boil down to two scenerios.

1) It was purposefully flown/landed somewhere.
2) Something crazy happened, but it truely did crash.

Either way there's an airplane and people/bodies to be found. 

Hypotheticaly, for #1, you could say the airplane was disassembled and the parts even recycled, reforged, dumped as unidentifiable trash.  Bodies could be incinerated.  Luggage incinerated, metal personal items crushed and melted down.  This would be a LOT of work.  But nothing would ever be found.  It still begs the question "why?"  What is worth murdering that many innocent people for?  What was protected? Hid? Stolen? What was the very specific purpose for this much murder?

For #2 - There's stuff to be found.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Perhaps the only remaining FACT is that the 777 and Occupants are publically MISSING !

I wonder IF we will see Other things and People go missing in the future in a similar way ?

Perhaps these Puzzles are introduce for us to experience, merely to solve ?
Things often do go missing without a trace but few take any Notice.

On a Larger scale, then more do take Notice.

It is the QUESTION that is Important !

Without the "Question" Nothing is discovered.

IF a "Pseudo" answer is accepted NOTHING is found or gained ! 

IF we are enduring and keep looking we inevitably get our answers, along with Knowledge
and understanding about our Environment.   

[spacemaverick]

http://intellihub.com/six-important-facts-youre-told-lost-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

I think that they are correct regarding these facts.  That's why I don't believe it crashed.


There are some astonishing things you're not being told about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the flight that simply vanished over the Gulf of Thailand with 239 people on board

By Mike Adams | Natural News


The mystery of the flight's sudden and complete disappearance has even the world's top air safety authorities baffled. "Air-safety and anti-terror authorities on two continents appeared equally stumped about what direction the probe should take," reports the Wall Street Journal.

WSJ goes on to report:

"For now, it seems simply inexplicable," said Paul Hayes, director of safety and insurance at Ascend Worldwide, a British advisory and aviation data firm.

While investigators are baffled, the mainstream media isn't telling you the whole story, either. So I've assembled this collection of facts that should raise serious questions in the minds of anyone following this situation.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

No explosion from the plane itself can destroy the black box recorders. They are bomb-proof structures that hold digital recordings of cockpit conversations as well as detailed flight data and control surface data.

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

Yet the black box from this particular incident hasn't been detected at all. That's why investigators are having such trouble finding it. Normally, they only need to "home in" on the black box transmitter signal. But in this case, the absence of a signal means the black box itself — an object designed to survive powerful explosions — has either vanished, malfunctioned or been obliterated by some powerful force beyond the worst fears of aircraft design engineers.

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally buoyant and will float in water

In past cases of aircraft destroyed over the ocean or crashing into the ocean, debris has always been spotted floating on the surface of the water. That's because — as you may recall from the safety briefing you've learned to ignore — "your seat cushion may be used as a flotation device."

Yes, seat cushions float. So do many other non-metallic aircraft parts. If Flight 370 was brought down by an explosion of some sort, there would be massive debris floating on the ocean, and that debris would not be difficult to spot. The fact that it has not yet been spotted only adds to the mystery of how Flight 370 appears to have literally vanished from the face of the Earth.

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature

One theory currently circulating on the 'net is that a missile brought down the airliner, somehow blasting the aircraft and all its contents to "smithereens" — which means very tiny pieces of matter that are undetectable as debris.

The problem with this theory is that there exists no known ground-to-air or air-to-air missile with such a capability. All known missiles generate tremendous debris when they explode on target. Both the missile and the debris produce very large radar signatures which would be easily visible to both military vessels and air traffic authorities.

• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

Air traffic controllers have full details of almost exactly where the aircraft was at the moment it vanished. They know the location, elevation and airspeed — three pieces of information which can readily be used to estimate the likely location of debris.

Remember: air safety investigators are not stupid people. They've seen mid-air explosions before, and they know how debris falls. There is already a substantial data set of airline explosions and crashes from which investigators can make well-educated guesses about where debris should be found. And yet, even armed with all this experience and information, they remain totally baffled on what happened to Flight 370.

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Hijacking an airplane does not cause it to simply vanish from radar. Even if transponders are disabled on the aircraft, ground radar can still readily track the location of the aircraft using so-called "passive" radar (classic ground-based radar systems that emit a signal and monitor its reflection).

Thus, the theory that the flight was hijacked makes no sense whatsoever. When planes are hijacked, they do not magically vanish from radar.

Conclusion: Flight 370 did not explode; it vanished

The inescapable conclusion from what we know so far is that Flight 370 seems to have utterly and inexplicably vanished. It clearly was not hijacked (unless there is a cover-up regarding the radar data), and we can all be increasingly confident by the hour that this was not a mid-air explosion (unless debris suddenly turns up that they've somehow missed all along).

The inescapable conclusion is that Flight 370 simply vanished in some way that we do not yet understand. This is what is currently giving rise to all sorts of bizarre-sounding theories across the 'net, including discussions of possible secret military weapons tests, Bermuda Triangle-like ripples in the fabric of spacetime, and even conjecture that non-terrestrial (alien) technology may have teleported the plane away.

Personally, I'm not buying any of that without a lot more evidence. The most likely explanation so far is that the debris simply hasn't been found yet because it fell over an area which is somehow outside the search zone. But as each day goes by, even this explanation becomes harder and harder to swallow.

Wartoad was correct.  It was purposely flown and landed somewhere or something crazy did happen and it did crash.  Things that make you go hmmmmm.  I did find that Digital globe was still posting their satellite pictures on Tomnod for people to continue looking for the flight.

[ArMaP]

I don't like that list of facts, it looks like it was made to distract from something else, as it points to things that were already said by the media and to some that are irrelevant or presented in a deceiving way, like:

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

Yet the black box from this particular incident hasn't been detected at all.

The fact that the black box wasn't detected doesn't mean that it was not transmmiting somewhere else.

And:

• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

If it vanished from the radar, how can they know if it physically vanished? Is that the only way of vanishing from radar?