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Amaterasu

Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on October 16, 2014, 01:34:47 PM
Wouldn't it be helpful to wait until a vaccine exists before flatly asserting they are determined to murder the public, or use the public as test subjects to an untested protocol?

It seems a bit hasty when what we're attacking...doesn't even exist yet?

What They're going to use does exist.  Several of these vaccines are on the "fast track."  That means they exist.  And they are being fast tracked by Glaxo et al, and/or with the aid of Bill & Melinda.

And Bill says that vaccines will help reduce population.  Just saying.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 16, 2014, 06:28:07 PM
And Bill says that vaccines will help reduce population.  Just saying.
Do you have a real source for that?

The Matrix Traveller

The biggest threat to the human Primate, is 'DRAMA'.   :o

Sadly the Species seams to be dependant on this disease.   :(

So I guess we need to free ourselves from this disease 1st !   :)

Glaucon

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on October 16, 2014, 09:02:35 PM
The biggest threat to the human Primate, is 'DRAMA'.   :o

Sadly the Species seams to be dependant on this disease.   :(

So I guess we need to free ourselves from this disease 1st !   :)
I don't believe it is dependent on Drama. Rather, drama debilitates the germination of anything alternative to the users current stimuli.
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

Wrabbit2000

I have a question Rdunk, and it's an honest one. No criticism meant at all. We're all in this together, after all.

How far do you believe we can trust the CDC Director for public information accuracy? He seemed off to a shaky start and the fact he's been influenced (at best) by politicians behind and around him seems almost obvious at this stage. Not certain, but it seems a plain thing to look at.

Do you think he's got what it takes to handle what has been dropped into his world?

No conspiracy stuff here. Just the simple suggestion of old fashioned political game playing, and wondering how far down the path he might be?

Glaucon

Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on October 16, 2014, 11:56:12 PM


How far do you believe we can trust the CDC Director for public information accuracy? He seemed off to a shaky start and the fact he's been influenced (at best) by politicians behind and around him seems almost obvious at this stage. Not certain, but it seems a plain thing to look at.

I'd like to give my opinion if you don't mind.

I believe we can trust the statements he gives during press conferences, yes. He most definitely treads lightly and doesn't emphasize on absolutely anything.

Example: "the virus can only be spread through direct contact with an infected subjects bodily fluids"

When you have air around you (and you're not in the shower or pool) you're still in direct contact with water. It's water vapor present in our atmosphere.

I certainly wouldn't want to be around a legitimately sick patient. Not even within 10 feet. A cough or sneeze could carry undetectable (to us) infected fluid. The last place you want that crap coming into contact with is your EYE.

But he's not lying, he's simply concise.
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

Amaterasu

Quote from: ArMaP on October 16, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Do you have a real source for that?

Uhhh...  The horses mouth?






And...









"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on October 17, 2014, 01:19:40 AM
Uhhh...  The horses mouth?

Do you have an uncensored version, one in which we can hear the rest of the sentence? I ask because what he says doesn't make sense, "lower that by 10 or 15%, but then we see an increase of about 1.3".

On the second video he talks about (at the beginning of the video, I didn't see it all) reduction of population growth, not reduction of the population.

I didn't watch the third video, as that woman doesn't look like Bill Gates.

Amaterasu

More links of interest:

EbolaGate 2014: Damage Control and Government Censoring at Golden State FIRE EMS?

http://truthsector.net/2014/10/04/ebolagate-2014-damage-control-and-government-censoring-at-golden-state-fire-ems/


EbolaGate: US Marines Being Used as Patsies As Elite Activate Next Stage of Flu-to-Coup Plan


http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/ebolagate-us-marines-being-used-as-patsies-as-elite-activate-next-stage-of-flu-to-coup-plan/
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

burntheships

#159
Quote from: Wrabbit2000 on October 16, 2014, 11:56:12 PM

Do you think he's got what it takes to handle what has been dropped into his world?

No conspiracy stuff here. Just the simple suggestion of old fashioned political game playing, and wondering how far down the path he might be?

Wrabbit,

Thats a good question, I was curious to know more about him.

What I found is that he was Mayor Bloombergs right hand man, and the
both of them now think that they did the right thing for New York with
the Soda Size Restrictions, etc.  In other words, they think New York is healthier place, and New Yorkers are far better off.  ::)

Taking that into account, I can see how this current Ebola "scare" is shaping
up. There is a far larger political agenda in the current "scare" than meets
the eye. Frieden and Bloomberg have been working together for a long while,
and still are in this "mixed bag". Bloomberg is head over the Agenda21 Cities,
and Frieden is on record saying that the problem of Ebola in Africa needs to
be solved for the worlds sake.

Yet, with such small fatality numbers, The U.S. has been largely disinterested
in throwing money at a vaccine. ( Until now funny how that worked eh? )

HHS investing $5.8M in Ebola vaccine Baltimore
company Profectus is developing


QuoteGiven that just a few thousand people had died of Ebola in all recorded outbreaks since its discovery in 1976, such projects struggled to attract investment and move toward human testing. But as the current outbreak accelerates in West Africa and stokes fears in the United States, the impetus to advance experimental vaccines and treatments has grown. http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bs-hs-profectus-ebola-vaccine-20141016-story.html 

Surely, some of the hype surrounding this current "scare" is politically motivated,
with an angle towards the U.S. "debt pie", along with advancing some political
cause of Agenda21 as well.

IMO, I am not saying Ebola is not real, however with such low fatality numbers,
that is the current death toll is a total from 1976, seems this is indicative that
there must be some other agenda at work here.  ;) 

ETA: for those who are conspiracy minded, I found this artical here to be
interesting along those lines.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bs-hs-ebola-vaccine-work-20140801-story.html#page=1

Dated August 1st, before the "scare" began,

"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

ArMaP

Quote from: VillageIdiot on October 17, 2014, 09:08:27 PM
I thought this thread was about Ebola.
It is. :)

While people in the US are freaking out because of Ebola, the Spanish nursing assistant that was in very bad conditions on October 10 is much better, sits in the bed, is able to drink and spoke 10 minutes with her husband on the phone. The last thing the doctors tried was to add another treatment to what she was already taken (at least some kind of serum made from the blood of a recovering Ebola patient), the added medicine was Favipiravir, a Japanese antiviral made to fight flu.

this_is_who_we_are

We Are Cooked

ITEM

Modeling the Impact of Interventions on an Epidemic of Ebola in Sierra Leone and Liberia
http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/obk-14-0043-modeling-the-impact-of-interventions-on-an-epidemic-of-ebola-in-sierra-leone-and-liberia/
OCTOBER 16, 2014
Caitlin M. Rivers
Eric T. Lofgren
Madhav Marathe
Stephen Eubank
Bryan L. Lewis

Quote... the number of cumulative cases is forecast to continue rising extremely rapidly, with the bulk of the epidemic yet to come (Figure 2). This suggests an extremely poor outlook for the course of the epidemic without intensive interventions.




Our findings suggest that, for at least in the near term, some form of coordinated intervention is imperative. The forecasts for both Liberia and Sierra Leone in the absence of any major effort to contain the epidemic paint a bleak picture of its future progress, which suggests that we are in the opening phase of the epidemic, rather than near its peak. These findings are in line with predictions from other models which, despite using different methods and different data sources, have all estimated similar basic reproductive numbers, and forecast that the epidemic is currently beyond the point where it can be easily controlled.
"The uninitiated perceive time with no appreciation of the beginning. And no understanding of the end. To them time is an infinite commodity. We know better and we will not waste a second of it. This is who we are."

ArMaP

Meanwhile, Senegal is considered free of Ebola, after 42 days without any new case.

burntheships

Quote from: ArMaP on October 17, 2014, 11:27:07 PM
Meanwhile, Senegal is considered free of Ebola, after 42 days without any new case.

Good news, lets hope that the U.S. can get its act together and
follow protocol so we too can say goodbye to Ebola.

8)
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

Amaterasu

Guess the formaldehyde finally left Their well...
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."