One thing no one can disprove...

[zorgon]

I find it almost impossible to believe that the general public is so 'out of it' on all this, in your face info. that is not hard to research?

Precisely.

I have found over the years that the very people who CLAIM to be seeking the truth, screaming for disclosure, are the very people who believe the wildest bullsh!t from the craziest charlatans...

but take the time to attempt to show them what is REALLY going on. they are blind and deaf and if what you say doesn't jive with their personal belief, they call YOU a disinfo agent for daring to bring the truth into the light

Howard Menger, Boyd Bushman, Ben Rich... all recently passed   ...all telling us the truth

but Greer and Haramein (both under the control of Dr Elizabeth Rauscher ) THEY get the center stage and the money.

I think I will go plant some daisies....

[zorgon]

I wish he had a better internet conection at the time tho

All computers can print screen  

All computers save what you see on the internet that day in the internet cache

As Gary said in his first interview... He was high and drugs are not good for the intellect  so he could not even remember ONE NAME on that list

Sorry Martyn,,, as you say he is a friend...  but I cannot buy that story

The whole thing smacks of a smoke screen to keep hackers away and keep Joe Public 'busy'

NASA has no secret stuff on their computers connected to the public internet and you cannot hack SiPRNET or JWICS without sitting at a .mil computer

If you could, serious hackers would already have done so and plastered the net with the good stuff

Maybe Gary saw THIS image of a space craft 



That was on a lap top on the ISS 

[Sinny]

That was on a lap top on the ISS 

Link?

Besides that loving the info.. 

[zorgon]

Link?

Besides that loving the info..

Old rehashed news

We call that 'wallpaper' these days.

So a NASA guy has a cool wallpaper on his computer and the UFO crowd goes nuts seeking meaning



I have the original here somewhere...

[zorgon]

Here it is...

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I tried last night Z, but I'm no where near filling your shoes, and you weren't on at the time. And I was trying to be nice. Shheesshhh!

[RUSSO]

Gary McKinnon is a bumbling fool who didn't even know enough to hit print screen or check his internet cache. Most of what he spoke about he got from UFO websites

For a "hacker" this is very telling, i mean, amateur much?

NASA whom he hacked does NOT have the secret space corps info. Even the military computers that hold secret stuff are not on the internet but on SiPRNET JWICS and the Global

Yet Gary becomes a hero of sorts even though he had nothing.  He was a convenient distraction for the Feds Nothing more

This smells like a bait indeed.

You want names of non terrestrial officers? Look at our space command thread    I have names of the Admirals in charge like THIS one that was linked to me at ATS (which some STUPID mod deleted. Fortunately I was on at the time and caught it

http://moneymaker.com/family/blueangl.htm

Surelly i will

You don't need to hack to get the info... you just need to know where to look, who to ask and WHAT to ask for...

Like THIS

But hacked information seems to be so much more glamorous 

Oh well... I blame all those hollywood movies from my adolescence

Go listen to what he said in his first interview  We have it on the Moon... I REALLY HATE the glory this BOZZO gets for having done NOTHING

Well... I would not like to be remembered as a clown. So his glory will be ephemeral.

Your all falling into the BS trap same as the moon landings 

Not quite the effect i expect indeed. I think you know why

It went NOWHERE because they had NOTHING It was all smoke and mirrors

Still would be nice to see people under oath speaking about it. Shoot in the foot is not what i would expect tho. They are better than that

The Navy Space program is NOT secret  it just is not easy to find    Heck just watch Stargate SG1 and you will get more disclosure that anywhere else LOL

I was about to send you a pm to ask about it. Just got the Stargate SG-1 10 seasons. Will be a bussy weekend 

Like the BUDGET for space engineers being UNLIMITED  (we have those papers too)

Thats why some chairs they get cost 40 grant?

But people would rather believe a buffoon like Gary (or Nassim Haramein with his fake alien Mayan stones on National Geographic) then any real research

Television is a real powerfull tool. All those celebrities caring for him. How cute

In a large part THAT is exactly why I have lost my muse... I no longer see the point presenting 'the good stuff' when even staff here thinks Gary has any credibilty   

Well... you know better than this Z.

[Sinny]

Howard Menger, Boyd Bushman, Ben Rich... all recently passed   ...all telling us the truth

Really now? 

[Elvis Hendrix]

 
"There was a lack of reality about everything, a kind of euphoric strangeness to all
   [that] was going on."
-- Colonel Buz Aldrin


   Following his return to earth, Buzz Aldrin experienced an increasingly severe mental illness.
   A  sampling of quotes from his revealing book, [RETURN TO EARTH], provides a basis for analysis.


 
p 25 wrote:
We were to become public relations men for space exploration -- in a sense, salesmen. The word
made me terribly uncomfortable and self-conscious when it was first used.



p 68 wrote:
I felt all six of us were fakes and fools for allowing ourselves to be convinced by some strange concept of duty to be sent...


p 295 wrote:
Should anyone discover I was in the hospital (for nervous problems) the explanation was to be that I was being treated for a neck problem. The other problem, if at all possible, was to be kept secret.


p 317 wrote:
My life is unreal...


p 320 wrote:
I was incredulous...she had really believed all that crap she had read about me - about her - about all of us? Suddenly, all my life...became tinged with a crazy unreality.


The first question that Roy Neal asked me was, 'Now that almost two years have gone by, why not tell us how it really felt to be on the moon?'




If any one question was anathema to me, that was it. Roy, I suppose, felt he had no choice. Yet it has always been almost impossible for me to answer that question with any sort of decent response.




My throat went dry and I became dizzy. Carefully I picked my way through a reply, thinking that all the test pilots in the audience would burst out in laughter.

[petrus4]

Here it is...

Why would extraterrestrials fly in untextured spacecraft?

[thorfourwinds]

Should one be interested...
moved so as not to derail thread...

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi ArMap,

ArMap

What made you think I suggested one was weightless on the moon ?
I didn't think that, why are you saying it?

Re.
ArMap

Neither of those have the same difference in pressure between the suits and the exterior, unless the aircraft had a vacuum chamber,
but even then weightlessness is not the same thing as the gravity at the Moon's surface.

I apologize ...   

I misread your answer at the time, while was rushing to go out.   

Sorry about that misunderstanding on my part.

[ArMaP]

I misread your answer at the time, while was rushing to go out.   

Sorry about that misunderstanding on my part.

No problems.

That's why I avoid posting during my lunch break.

[The Matrix Traveller]

What is going on in your sky's is far more complex than those on Earth Imagine.

Martin and Z are onto part  of the Story and there is another areas as well.

Sadly all of which get confused with each other.

The technologies of which are much different. But to separate these differences is no easy task.

It is so ^%$$&*^ Complex, is one of the reasons for 'Non Disclosure".

There is human tech. (kept secret as a result of human Paranoia)
There is misleading cooperation between the human species and other Species.
There's a hybrid breeding program going on, which extends back 6,000 years or more.
There's Individual contact with others taking place.
There's random contact.
There's Another area involving the Development of our Individual Processing System (Non Material)
There's WAR taking place between 'Species' even recorded in ancient writings.
There is  inter-dimensional behaviour taking place.
And there are those 'Critters'....

And the list goes on and on and on and on..............

Did we go to the moon through mechanically 'Farting' ? (Rocket tech.)

I don't think so.


Has the human species been to the moon ?

I will leave this up to those who are in the Know.


Has the 'human Primate' been beyond the Moon ?

YES.

[ArMaP]

What is going on in your sky's is far more complex than those on Earth Imagine.

Is your sky different?