Donald Trump finally admits that Obama was born in USA

[Pimander]

hmm a see you mentioned trumps color..

Yes I mentioned his colour.  The elite in America are white.

so have a tantrum about that

I'm saying it how it actually is.  Call it what you like.

[funbox]

The key word above is PUBLICLY.  You publicly make accusations you find are untrue then you PUBLICLY apologise.  End of!

what has the approval of others got to do with the mending of trust between two human beings, or saying sorry to someone, why should we even know about such occurances?

anyway, ignoring the farce of it all , previous election campaigns have been  far more venomous than this one.. but i guess you allready know that , what with your keen concern in american politics

interesting

funbox

[Pimander]

what has the approval of others got to do with the mending of trust between two human beings, or saying sorry to someone, why should we even know about such occurances?

I've already explained why above.  The accusations were not made man-to-man, they were made in public.  And it isn't just about trust between Trump and Obama which there will never be anyway.... It is a public thing...  Sometimes I have to state something so bleedin' obvious I can't help but wonder....  

anyway, ignoring the farce of it all , previous election campaigns have been  far more venomous than this one.. but i guess you allready know that , what with your keen concern in american politics

I generally find American politics tedious because there is nothing to choose between the candidates.  It is generally a choice between one neoliberal capitalist and a slightly more liberal neoliberal capitalist. 

This time was different because of Bernie Sanders.

[funbox]

Yes I mentioned his colour.  The elite in America are white.

there you go again..
what has their color got to do with it ?, they could just about be any color and all colours...

they might even be being ,directed by Wicked Aliens, trying to get us to see beyong colou/r and shape .. Form even

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[funbox]

I've already explained why above.  The accusations were not made man-to-man, they were made in public.  And it isn't just about trust between Trump and Obama which there will never be anyway.... It is a public thing...  Sometimes I have to state something so bleedin' obvious I can't help but wonder....  

and its just not a good enough reason , not personal enough, wherever it was said and whomever it was said infront of , sencerity come from a sincere human contact, 5 sences all working in overtime. not a media circus and a pressgang

see , if Hillary watched it on tv, you know yourself she's going to think he doesn't really mean it , she might even vocalise that to those around her .. all very  farcical that way,, see ?

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[Pimander]

there you go again..
what has their color got to do with it ?, they could just about be any color and all colours...

That's the point.  They could be any colour but they aren't.  You can't oppose racism or elitism if you ignore it.

If said aliens did not recognise the differences between colours they could not encourage us to do that in the first place because they would not know we were doing it. 

[funbox]

That's the point.  They could be any colour but they aren't.  You can't oppose racism or elitism if you ignore it.

so who are these white elite then ?who and what color are they in other countrys? no doubt colaborators of all colours

If said aliens did not recognise the differences between colours

they're not superbright ?

they could not encourage us to do that in the first place because they would not know we were doing it

indeed, most likely because they not that bright.. or color blind

funbox

[rdunk]

Pimander said, "If he was anti-elite, surely he might throw his weight behind the black lives matter campaign?"

I am surprised that you seem to not understand that the "black lives matter campaign" is just that, another let's change America campaign, funded by no less than George Soros and others, not really much different than was the Occupy Wall Street "campaign". The intent of these such "campaigns" is to fundamentally change the United States of America to being a leftist socialist aligned 3rd world country, like many if not most of the people-struggling countries around this world. Many, if not most, of the learned working black people of this country truly understand this, and speak out against such too!!!!

These "campaigns" are ugly scabs on the heart of America right now, and the great black people who are now here need to step up and help deal directly with putting this crap down (relative to the black lives matter thing) --- ALL LIVES DO MATTER!!

http://humanevents.com/2011/10/21/george-soros-funds-occupy-wall-street/

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/23896-hacked-documents-soros-funded-black-lives-matter

[funbox]

Pimander said, "If he was anti-elite, surely he might throw his weight behind the black lives matter campaign?"

I am surprised that you seem to not understand that the "black lives matter campaign" is just that, another let's change America campaign, funded by no less than George Soros and others, not really much different than was the Occupy Wall Street "campaign". The intent of these such "campaigns" is to fundamentally change the United States of America to being a leftist socialist aligned 3rd world country, like many if not most of the people-struggling countries around this world. Many, if not most, of the learned working black people of this country truly understand this, and speak out against such too!!!!

These "campaigns" are ugly scabs on the heart of America right now, and the great black people who are now here need to step up and help deal directly with putting this crap down (relative to the black lives matter thing) --- ALL LIVES DO MATTER!!

http://humanevents.com/2011/10/21/george-soros-funds-occupy-wall-street/

in the uk there was a big show from some subvergents at Heathrow airport, a bunch of White people invaded and handcuft themselves to some trolleys or something, strangly not one Black person amongst them, but they claimed to be from that organisation.. odd that , but im sure soros know's what the election results will do , hence the funding of them , and encouraging them to cause trouble etc .. race baiting at its finest , just like what happened when Sorros  and his organisation went to Serbia... hmm racial tension much?

so when the elections over, the chance to bring in Martial law is ever greater..

i believe they're playing some sort of amplification card, coupled with a tech card..
tricky to see the full picture

funbox

[burntheships]

Possibly but I doubt it because Trump can now sue the Washington Post for libel if that is the case.  But even if so....

I have followed that issue since 2008 myself and have seen articles,
even from the Guardian on how Clinton's campaign was the one
who started the rumor, and circulated the photos. This does
not surprise me in the least, she is on video actually saying
"but he can't be" president, as if the news stories and
and admission from The Clinton Campaign are not enough
evidence already.

I could find those articles today, but not going
to waste my time. Clinton started it, and Obama
campaign complained about it, and called her
racist at the time. All of those articles are out
there too.

I have agreed with a lot of Trump's rhetoric, about invading Iraq, getting rid of corruption in politics etc.  But I always had my doubts about a white billionaire man in a suit saying he was anti-elite.

If he was anti-elite, surely he might throw his weight behind the black lives matter campaign?

The Black Lives Matter campaign is funded by George Soros,
proof exists of this in the hacked DNC emails.
So, it is at it's heart astro turf. A smart person
would keep BLM as far away from them as possible.


I would agree if he now admit's he now believes
Obama was born in the U.S., as a man he should
own up to his mistake or rhetoric, and apologize.

As far as his past, well everyone has one, and
his is colorful to say the least.

[burntheships]

Unearthed, Chris Matthews attacks Hillary Clinton
for her veiled birtherism.




Waaaaayyyy before Trump!

[Pimander]

ALL LIVES DO MATTER!!

Obviously.

But it is a campaign about how many black people have been killed relative to other ethnic groups and nobody has EVER been found guilty of an offence even when they are filmed committing the atrocity.

It is a just cause and one an anti-elitist should support.  That is my opinion.

To defeat elitism you have to inclusive.  It stands to reason.  America looks like a divided and broken society.  Trump's rhetoric is divisive and not helping.

And I have never seen a Clinton quote regarding a direct accusation that Obama wasn't born in USA.  If she did start the rumours then she should apologise too.  I'm not being partisan, I'm saying it how it is.

Whoever started the rumours, anyone who used it to publicly question the Presidents legitimacy - of any political party - owes the President AND the American people a public apology.  No amount of playing the blame game will change that.

I am right about this and any neutral free from bias would agree!

[funbox]

Obviously.
I'm not being partisan, I'm saying it how it is.

are you sure ?

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[funbox]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37394883

The latest comments came just hours after Mr Trump was forced to reverse his long-held position that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

Speaking at a campaign event in Washington, he said: "President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.

But he went on to accuse Mrs Clinton of starting the so-called birther controversy

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it," he said.

There is no evidence to link Mrs Clinton to the birther conspiracy.

hmm the bbc seem to have lost there powers of investigation.

but then they sing the same tune as the mainstream media over the Atlantic..

not curious in anyway, shape or form that.

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[Pimander]

hmm the bbc seem to have lost there powers of investigation.

So has Clinton actually accused Obama of not being born in the USA?

The members of Pegasus seem to have lost their powers of investigation too.  People accusing her of doing it is not evidence she did it.  If she did it it would be all over the media with the clip of Clinton accusing him because the Washington Post have printed that it is a false accusation.  Well where is the proof she did it?

If she did do it then she should apologise.  So should Trump but nobody has the fair mindedness to agree with me.  Funny that.

Funbox, almost every time you post, you seem to ignore my points and try to discuss the BBC or some other distraction.  Yes the BBC are sometimes biased (mainstream media).  That doesn't make my point in any way invalid.  You asked me what my point was.  My point is that Trump is admitting he has made false allegations publicly and is not man enough to apologise.  Nobody has so far posted anything that indicated I'm wrong.

As I said, I saw the same thing on ATS.  You make a fair point.  If you are right everybody ignores your point.

So are you going to address my point and admit I'm right or continue to falsely create the impression that what Trump has done is OK so support for him is reasonable on this?