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Title: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 10, 2014, 02:42:31 AM
Pete Santilli a former US marine
Live from the Bundy ranch in Nevada.


In the state of Nevada, Cliven Bundy and his family are currently caught in a fight over land with the Federal government. This is over his long standing refusal to acknowledge a 1993 modification to grazing rights on the land.

Bundy claims the land has been in his family since the 1800s. On Saturday, hundreds of federal officials, helicopters, low flying aircraft and hired cowboys, began began rounding up Bundy's cattle in northeastern Clark County.

Bundy stated to the media, "I have raised cattle on that land, which is public land for the people of Clark County, all my life. Why I raise cattle there and why I can raise cattle there is because I have preemptive rights... who is the trespasser here? Who is the trespasser on this land?


Read the mainstream news reports here:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/nevada-rancher-threatens-range-war-feds/story?id=23225314

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhFm80Phqk

Well I was not aware there were "First Amendment Zones"...
that said hope cool heads prevail in this one.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 10, 2014, 09:34:30 AM
Bundy's Cows  Gold Butte Nevada

(http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/field/media/web1_Bundy-cows_1.jpg)

The Bundy Ranch sits on the entrance to the road that leads to Gold Butte and thus on to John's old gold mine that he was forced out of by the feds as well.

Bundy has crates of melons (in season) sitting by the gate with an honor system you put the money into an envelopes and take your melons...

Interesting that the Feds are doing this... in the same area that John was kicked out of the mine.

I suspect Harry Reid is behind this at some level.

State of Nevada had told Bundy that he could exercise those rights until his death.  The area has NOTHING but old abandoned mines and some petroglyphs at Whitney Pockets... so WHY are they suddenlt sending in the sawt teams to round up cattle?

Could ir be those white Batelle vans that we never did find out where they go?

Hmmmmm

Something is afoot
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 10, 2014, 09:36:27 AM
(http://nevadagrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/100_5302.jpg)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 10, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
The White Vans...

EXCLUSIVE! WE SUPPORT CLIVEN BUNDY-OPERATION MUTUAL AID!


(http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/e6f1c-000.jpg)

I just got off the phone with Jerry Bruckhard of OMA (Operation Mutual Aid). They are mediating with me for the Bundy family. Before I relay his message I would like to address a few things-1. There are rumors going around that Mr. Bundy is not asking for help. That is a lie. He is asking for any and all help with this situation IMMEDIATELY.

2. Last estimates are of over 200 Federal Agents at the Bundy Ranch.

3.A (as of yet, unknown) militia unit in Nevada has put out orders to stand down-OMA is NOT honoring those orders. And has, as of 2 hours ago, mobilized.

4. Mr. Bundy is overwhelmed with phone calls and emails.

This is the Message from Jerry Bruckhart:

"OMA has deployed to Clark county Nevada, in defense of the Bundy family. Make no mistake about it, the men that step on the field of battle will not decide the outcome of this engagement. YOU WILL. If the enemy (The Federal Agents) is under the impression that we are alone, they will believe that we are an isolated group of trouble makers and the likely hood that they will engage us is high. However, if millions of people like you will actively support the mission in Nevada, by doing the following: Sharing posts relevent to the situation, doing such simple things as texting go OMA, talking about OMA on the phone with your friends, ext. Until the conclusion of this operation. The point here is, the enemy moniters everything and government spy agencies will pick up every time OMA is whispered. We are depending on YOU to be a force multiplier for the men that will step on the field in defense of the Bundy family.

We would like to have as many live feed cameras on site as possible, YouTube, ext. to document the making of history.

If anybody can make contact with CopBlock or similar groups, to request their presence on location, it would be greatly appreciated.

The last thing I would like to cover is the possibility that the Government of the state instructs their state police to assist the federal agents in detaining OMA personnel. Our personnel have been instructed to call me as soon as they know they are going to be pulled over, at that time I will make known which state is actively participating in the free travel of OMA personnel. In preperation I would like to ask each of you to get the needed information to contact your governer in the event that we need to express our displeasure.
"All Men are mortal. Most pass simply because it is their time. A few however, are blessed with the opportunity to choose their time in the performance of duty.""

-Jerry Bruckhart

If you cannot do anything else, we ask that you pray for the safety of all those involved.

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 10, 2014, 09:42:02 AM
The Desert Tortoise...

...was the reason given to boot John off the mine property, despite the fact that he was awarded the best mining operation  award many years in a row.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 10, 2014, 09:47:09 AM
EXCLUSIVE! THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY!
April 9, 2014 / Clark Kent


(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t34.0-12/10250780_735558613142066_962107445_n.jpg?oh=1b46558fba3179910bfd5a69eb193e7b&oe=53476290)

"Sorry this is long but applicable here. By SHIREE BUNDY COX:

I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight.

Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it is in a nut shell.
My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972.

These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars.

These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights.

Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches.

My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.

Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers.

They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with their own grazing fees.

When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job.

He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.
So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes.

In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business.

Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card.
You've already heard about the desert tortis.

Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years.

Now they're desperate.

It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff.
Everything they're doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America.

Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you.
They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again.
Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.

Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him.

Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed.

Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it.

They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Auction and sell them.

All with our tax money.

They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars.

See how slick they are?

Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks"john

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Eighthman on April 10, 2014, 02:34:24 PM
Marvel Comic joke of the day:

What's the difference between Hydra  - and Obama, the NSA, the DOJ and the BLM?



Hydra's fictional
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 10, 2014, 04:11:16 PM
Ranch Riot!! Bundy Ranch Protesters Tasered by Federal Agents and Attacked by K9's. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA)

Published on Apr 9, 2014
Contains Graphic images.

Protestors at the Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada take on the Feds and stand their ground.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 10, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/cops_Bundy_ranch.png)


AMERICAS FREEDOM FIGHTERS (http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/)

In a scene that can only be described as something that you would witness in a third world country, and not in America, the so-called land of the free.

Pete Santilli captured the Federal goons of the BLM, throwing down a 57 yr old woman with Cancer to the ground, a pregnant woman attacked by k9 dogs, and one of the Bundy family members being Tased 3 times.

All because the Bundy Family saw a convoy of dump trucks and backhoe's that they assumed were there to bury the cattle that the feds were killing in the process of rounding them up with helicopters.  Still, through all this the Bundy ranch protesters stood their ground against the tyranny of the BLM yet again, and caused them too again flee as the cowards that they truly are.
 
Please, we need everyone that is in an area that is within driving distance of the Bundy Ranch, to mobilize now to the defense of your fellow American brothers and sisters.

Also remember this, the feds Agenda 21 program will not stop with the Bundy family, and you can bank on the fact that they will be coming for your land next.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 10, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
Our world we think as ours, is not ours any more.

The synthetics will kill bundy because they no longer are with human emotions and are psychopathetic knowing no moral direction in events as this. These killers are synthetic robots that simply follow orders without human emotion.

Like them taking the gold mine, herding and killing wild horses and anything else the machine so desires, its no longer human naturaly.

The big show is still coming and do you really think they will stop short of killing people that get in the way. They are synthetic terminators built to kill humans with no remorse and that is their orders for what they will do
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 10, 2014, 08:37:05 PM
Quote from: zorgon on April 10, 2014, 09:34:30 AM

Interesting that the Feds are doing this... in the same area that John was kicked out ...

Something is afoot

I'd say...if those Tortoise were in danger, they would
have died off long ago....

Another video here: I dont know the sequence of order
but posting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsS8zXkrrCI
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 10, 2014, 08:46:06 PM


This is bigger than Cliven Bundy
(Freind of Clive ) speaking at the Moapa Valley Town Board meeting 04/09/14.
Contact the Nevada State Governor and tell him we don't want Agenda 21



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncLjvoTa0Xw
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 11, 2014, 01:44:12 AM
This is the point of no return for people to take back their rights. These brave Nevadans are heros.

Alex Jones latest on the Nevada land grab by the BLM criminals. Bundys sons are interviewed on how they were tazed. Well worth listening to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFjB3ketNs
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: astr0144 on April 11, 2014, 02:35:28 AM
If this is seen as pure Agenda 21 like Land take over...

All the Locals to this area with Guns should all drive out to that area to protest on behalf of this guy and stop such  Government & Police tyranny being allowed to do such things...

Its time the people start fighting back and protesting....

Next it will be someone else...another local farmer.

These situations are just getting ridiculous...

At one time people would back each other up, but the fear that the tyrants are now creating by such egs no doubt  may make folk think twice about supporting those being harassed .
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 11, 2014, 02:43:52 AM

LIVE...starting soon


Pete Santilli Episode # 677
Coverage Of Bundy Ranch Protest Continues


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUfKY80uWo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUfKY80uWo

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 11, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Sheriff Mack Responds Federal Terrorism at Bundy Ranch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFzls8qt_ys

QuoteThe Arizona Legislature Stands With Bundy

In a case of "I would never have believed this in a million years", the Arizona State Senate President Andy Biggs and the Arizona House of Representatives Speaker Dave Livingston are both in agreement that Arizona should be involved in supporting CSPOA and Oath Keepers in going to Bunkerville, Nevada.

These two leaders of the Arizona Legislature have vowed to support the Cliven Bundy family. This stunning development cannot be overstated, and yet, there is more. Additionally, State Senators Al Melvin, Chester Crandall, and Kelly Ward along with State Representatives Brenda Barton, Bob Thorpe, Kelly Townsend and Warren Peterson are all planning to be at the Bundy ranch by Sunday morning.

All of these local government officials are planning to attend the Press Conference Monday afternoon with the CSPOA and Oath Keepers along with the
Bundy's and other sheriffs and public officials from across the country.
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/11/sheriff-mack-cspoa-oathkeepers-state-legislators-america-stands-with-cliven-bundy/

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 07:37:06 PM
I too am surprised that Gillespie is not taking action on this... thought for sure this couldn't happen here.

This is now way beyond a matter of cows. This will be a test of state sheriff's vs the Feds

So far the state police and county mounties have stayed out of this. I think they are afraid to deal with it.

It is the BLM park Rangers causing all the fuzz. Seems they forget that they are hired to look after OUR land.

If I was more mobile I would drive out there.  They have blocked off the main access road to Gold Butte. I wonder if they are allowing the residents in there (not many but a few) to go in and out.  I am not sure exactly where that sign is

But at least the locals are not standing for this... and now with Arizona getting into it it will be interesting to see this play out

Why is Arizona involved?  Well the Gold Butte area sits in both states so they do have jurisdiction in the area

(http://www.jonadams.com/photos/ut-az_0797/sign_gold_butte_road.jpg)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Okay the closed signs are beyound where the residents are... they are on the leg past Whitney Pockets where the pavement ends

(http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/field/media/web1_bundy_040114JL_01_2.jpg)

Cattle rancher taking fight over land use to limit
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/cattle-rancher-taking-fight-over-land-use-limit
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
Bundy vs. BLM: Interest in cattle dispute widens

(http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/field/media/web1_rangewar_041014JL_03_1.jpg)

QuoteState lawmakers from Arizona to Washington are headed for Nevada to rally alongside the Bundy family and its supporters. Most of them are tea party Republicans or Libertarians associated with a patriot group known as the Oath Keepers.

Several of the elected officials said they were drawn into the issue by video footage of Wednesday's clash between angry protesters and BLM rangers that shows Bundy's sister being tackled to the ground and one of Bundy's seven sons being shot with a stun gun.

"Watching that video last night created a visceral reaction in me," said Arizona Rep. Kelly Townsend, a tea party Republican who is driving up from Phoenix to take part in a rally with lawmakers and Oath Keepers near the Bundy ranch Monday. "It sounds dramatic, but it reminded me of Tiananmen Square. I don't recognize my country at this point."


http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/bundy-vs-blm-interest-cattle-dispute-widens
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 08:14:14 PM
Las Vegas Revue Journal has the best updates on this but we cannot quote much from them as they viciously go after copyrights  so go visit them and get the updates


QuoteNevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, R-Las Vegas, called the footage "horrifying." The pro-gun lawmaker has made two trips to the Bunkerville area in the past two days so she could meet with protesters, "protect our Nevadans and keep the peace."

"I'm highly offended by the feds coming in as aggressively as they have," Fiore said.

Federal officials have said the large law enforcement presence and high level of security come in response to direct and indirect threats of violence made by Bundy family members and others.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/bundy-vs-blm-interest-cattle-dispute-widens
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: WarToad on April 11, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
Just to play Devil's Advocate -

It's not his land.  He doesn't have a deed.  He hasn't paid land use fees since 1993.  You can't just not pay the fees because you don't like management.  Work to change the management.  The government didn't get physically confrontational for 21 years.   He's using public land for personal profit and when the government FINALLY cracked down on him he called for rangewar on the Feds.  He advocated violence at that point.  With threat of violence by a rancher operating illegaly, THEN the Feds sent in armed officers.

Could it have been handled better?  Yes, by both sides.  He didn't like the way the fees were being used.  OK.  Find new land, it's not your land.  And the Feds didn't have to go in with Operation Overkill.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: WarToad on April 11, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
It's not his land.  He doesn't have a deed.

Well technically that land belongs to all of us :D
The thing people forget is that ALL ranchers in the west used to let their cattle roam the range. That is why BRANDING was invented so you could tell who owned which cow. Bundy is merely the LAST ONE left that has free range herds in Nevada and he was grandfathered in long before the BLM existed

QuoteHe hasn't paid land use fees since 1993.  You can't just not pay the fees because you don't like management.  Work to change the management.

He did try to make payments to the County  they returned his checks after cashing the first two. Work to change the management sometime takes drastic action to raise awareness that an issue even needs fixing.

QuoteThe government didn't get physically confrontational for 21 years.

yes true... It started with the new land use plans that the feds have for the area. The Desert Tortoise is being used as the motive. This started when the BLM wanted the land for whatever reason. John Lear was the first to get the boot. His mine was a model of clean operations. Nevada took his money to keep the claim active, He even had to pay a bond of $200,000.00 to ensure he kept the land 'in order"

Then along came Harry Ried and the Desert Tortoise Preserve  a 200,000 sq mile area of desert that has long been a hunter and ATV meca

John submitted his annual papers on time... Harry's office 'mislaid' them and they didn't get filed on time... then they said  Oh sorry... nothing we can do, get off the land by January and make sure you take everything down or lose your deposit

State of Nevada was okay with his staying... BLM finally pushed the issue... with bulldozers.... though they did give back $185.000 of the deposit

That was the start of it... now Bundy and the cows that bothered NO ONE are on the hit list

QuoteHe's using public land for personal profit and when the government FINALLY cracked down on him he called for rangewar on the Feds.  He advocated violence at that point.  With threat of violence by a rancher operating illegaly, THEN the Feds sent in armed officers.

Distorted facts... the threats were made up by  the feds. Listen to what he is saying  He says NO to violance... he says leave the guns at home (though open carry is allowed in Nevada... most people in the Gold Butte region carry for snakes ets... even Johns wife packed a 45 when at the mine)

He was not operating illegally... he was there before BLM existed and was grandfathered in. He also owns the WATER rights legal in the region and those water rights come with grazing rights by the old laws

THAT is why Arizona lawmakers and sheriffs are getting involved. Arizona and Texas still have many open range herds

QuoteFind new land, it's not your land. 

Where?  How do you pick up a ranch that is barely making it and just move it?  See Burntheships thread on WATER issues with California farmers.... Be prepared to see major increases in food cost shortly


QuoteAnd the Feds didn't have to go in with Operation Overkill.

These are not federal troops. They are over zealous PARK RANGERS that have hired goons with guns to back them up. They are putting closed signs and blocking roads to PUBLIC lands  BLM is simply a MANAGER for PUBLIC lands... they don't own it either

California Feds Unveil Drought Plan No Water For Farmers
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6598.msg91951#msg91951


Seems Agenda 21 is in full effect

and you want to advocate for the Devils?

:o

::)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 09:17:13 PM
THIS is what the BLM did to John's Mine 

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Mine_Photos/01a.JPG)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Mine_Photos/04a.JPG)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Mine_Photos/07a.JPG)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Mine_Photos/05a.JPG)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 11, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Looks like Z was right about Harry Reid.
They are planning to put a Chinese Operated
Solar Farm out there, and Reid and Son was
involved.

Senator Reid, son combine for China firm's desert plant

QuoteU.S. Senator Harry Reid recognized nine years ago that connections between his official duties and the lobbying activities of his relatives could lead to ethical questions.

In 2003, the Nevada Democrat publicly banned relatives from lobbying him or his staff after newspaper reports showed that Nevada industries and institutions routinely turned to Reid's sons or son-in-law for representation.

Now, questions surrounding family ties are flaring again in Nevada around the Senate majority leader. He and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/energy/item/12730-harry-reid-bolsters-son%E2%80%99s-interests-in-chinese-solar-plant-deal

http://www.futurnamics.com/reid_bundyranch.php

http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/20/business/fi-nevada20

And...

The BLM has killed hundreds of the Desert Tortoise themselves!

Quote

Federal funds are running out at the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center and officials plan to close the site and euthanize hundreds of the tortoises they've been caring for since the animals were added to the endangered species list in 1990.

"It's the lesser of two evils, but it's still evil," said U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service desert tortoise recovery coordinator Roy Averill-Murray during a visit to the soon-to-be-shuttered reserve at the southern edge of the Las Vegas Valley last week.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130825/us-desert-tortoise-threat/?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=politics


So, this is really real - its the Cowboys Vs. The Communists.

If I had to side with anyone it sure would not be Reid and Sons,
I would stand with Cliven and Sons anyday.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1982020_857057274309881_7289290283204276098_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 11, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
On that note!!!

Sheriff Gillespie made office on his promise and oath to protect Nevada from the government goons like this and he has been silent on this issue. We saw the Arizona Sheriff calling him out

..still slient

The official phone lines are busy  everyone calling him to step forward and keep his promise

Here is his direct phone number  702 828 3231
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 11, 2014, 10:48:34 PM

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/American-Standoff-2014-640.jpg)


Militias Are On Route: Is the 2nd American Revolution Starting in Bunkerville, Nevada? (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/militias-are-on-route-is-the-2nd-american-revolution-starting-in-bunkerville-nevada_042014)

Kimberly Paxton
www.TheDailySheeple.com
April 10th, 2014

Militias Are On Route: Is the 2nd American Revolution Starting in Bunkerville, Nevada?

An area just outside of the little town of Bunkerville, Nevada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunkerville,_Nevada), with a population of around a thousand people, may go down in history.

This little spot in the desert may be compared with Concord, Massachusetts, the site of the "shot heard round the world" – the first shot fired in the American Revolution.

Because it looks like the second American Revolution may start there...and soon.


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/bunkerville-nv.png)

Yesterday, The Daily Sheeple reported that tensions were running high outside of Bunkerville. It seems that the US government, in all of their infinite wisdom, has declared war on a cattle rancher named Cliven Bundy.

In a stand-off that has been likened to Ruby Ridge and Waco, the federal government has now deployed armed agents in a case of what the U.S. Department of the Interior's Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has deemed "trespass cattle," escalating a 20-year battle over grazing rights and what actually constitutes "public land" use in Southern Nevada.

Cliven Bundy, a 67-year-old rancher says his family has worked the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area since the late 1800s and that they were there well before the government's Land Management Bureau ever came along. (source (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-u-s-govt-vs-a-cattle-rancher-wake-up-america-they-are-taking-everything-away-from-us_042014))

Armed federal officers have arrived to steal Bundy's cattle and close down the land he is using. What's more, they have declared a zone around the area to be free of the restrictions of the Constitution, specifically, the First Amendment right to assemble and speak freely (http://www.infowars.com/nevada-governor-blasts-feds-first-amendment-area-in-bundy-dispute/).

They'd like to keep their reprehensible actions quiet and out of the public eye.

It's really difficult to mow down a bunch of protesters ala Waco with the whole world watching.
Yesterday, tensions began to rise even further and numerous protestors were tazed and assaulted. (You can see the actions of those brave BLM officers on the video posted above yesterday).

It looks like tensions will rise even further because Americans have had enough.

Militias have been mobilised. It's going to get real.

Bundy may be facing down a bunch of armed federal thugs but he's going to be backed up by militia members from across the country.

This is the day that Patriots have been talking about and training for.

They will not stand down.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vZ48WSJrA

Revolution in Nevada to Save Cliven Bundy - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vZ48WSJrA)
   

CBS reports that militias from Texas, Montana, Utah, New Hampshire, and Florida will be standing with Bundy against the Bureau of Land Management.

If you aren't a combatant, this doesn't mean that you can't participate in this revolt against tyranny.  This is a call to action.

Here are the pertinent email addresses and phone numbers:

   •   Bureau of Land Management (BLM) (http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/bureau-of-land-management.shtml) Phone Number:  (202) 208-3801

   •   Brian Sandoval Email Contact Form- http://gov.nv.gov/Contact/Governor/

   •   Brian Sandoval – Carson City Phone # - (775) 684-5670

   •   Brian Sandoval Las Vegas Phone # -(702) 486-2500

   •   Senator Dean Heller Contact Form
                http://www.heller.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact-form

   •   Phone #'s For Heller
                Reno: 775-686-5770
                Las Vegas: 702-388-6605
                Washington: 202-224-6244

   •   Sheriff Douglas Gillespi - (702) 828-3231 or (702) 828–3111

   •   Email: Sheriff@lvmpd.com



Share information in support of these people who refuse to stand idly by while theft, violence, and tyranny occurs at the hands of the government.

If we all spread the word, there is no way that another Ruby Ridge or Waco can quietly occur. We can combat the disinformation spouted by the mainstream media by publishing REAL photos, REAL videos, and REAL accounts of what is happening.

We can keep the communication open and tell the world what the United States government is doing to its own people.

Share this and other stories through email, through social media, through links in the comments sections of mainstream news sites.

Whatever you do, don't wait for someone else to take action.

Now is the time to speak up for liberty.

Make this story too viral for the mainstream to ignore.

Do not allow these brave people staring down the barrel of a gun to do so without our support.

The Bureau of Land Management has picked up a snake by the tail, and it looks like that snake is going to bite.




And on the Internet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vZ48WSJrA

Revolution in Nevada to Save Cliven Bundy - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vZ48WSJrA)

Published on Apr 9, 2014

Nevada militia is mobilizing!
Things you NEED !?A Good attitude for good morale !! a rifle or shot gun + ammo & extra mags ! a camera ! hiking or combat boots, binoculars or a scope, maps or GPS & cell phone-?( cell signal can be shielded with tinfoil, no joke look it up ! ) water + electrolytes-?( coconut water & bananas are awesome easy to come by electrolytes ) ! a good night sleep the day before + healthy meals, lightweight loose fitting long sleeve clothing + hat or shades, cool weather clothing or sleeping bag ( for cool desert nights, temp will drop at night ! ) flash light, batteries for gear, bush knife or combat knife, some first aid, money for supplies on the road or in town Nevada, THE SPOT, rally point

Recommended items !?Bull horns, load baring vest, body armor, portable communication devices,?side arms / pistols + ammo & extra mags, tent & camp chairs, portable tank of gas for vehicle,?portable water purifier, more guns, ammo, water & first aid for those that don't have.??!! Rules and Tactics !!?Watch your step,( snakes and scorpions. )?And if you want to hit anything...?Zero your weapon for 50 or 100 yards if you haven't already.?Know your holdovers at range-?(Do your Zero off and before you hit the battle zone,?plenty of space out there for that. )?Some CQB action but lot's of open range shit out there !?( !! Leave Your Shit In The Car !!) - till we know the game plan !?Make contact with the locales & plan with them !?(Remember it's their town their rules ! )?Do recon and get a feel for the land.?Communicate & Spread out in 2, 3 or 4 man teems.?Any offensive strike MUST be reserved for Day time !!?(We can not hope to compete against their FLIR Systems, Thermal Imaging & Night Vision Capabilities at night)?Go time :)?(!! Check Your Fire !! NO FRIENDLY FIRE !!),?Hit from behind when ever possible.?! Aim ! and DON'T spray and pray !?Stay focused & calm !?Cover fire, move and give first aid to a brother in need !!
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Video Source:
It was about Oil & People need rides out to Nevada ! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5qzes12KA)


'Expect To See A Band Of Soldiers': Militia Members Arrive At Nevada Ranch (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3143005/posts?page=191)

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 11, 2014, 11:21:40 PM
Cliven Bundy Ranch Dispute: Huge Difference Between Coverage by Conservative and Liberal Media (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/615259-cliven-bundy-ranch-dispute-huge-difference-between-coverage-by-conservative-and-liberal-media/)

All photos via Epoch Times (http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/615259-cliven-bundy-ranch-dispute-huge-difference-between-coverage-by-conservative-and-liberal-media/), (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)



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Krissy Thornton, right, looks at blood from a taser wound on Ammon Bundy near Bunkerville, Nev. Wednesday, April 9, 2014. Bundy was tasered by Bureau of Land Management law enforcement officers while protesting the roundup of what the BLM calls "trespass cattle" that rancher Cliven Bundy grazes in the Gold Butte area 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)



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Rancher Derrel Spencer speaks during a rally in support of Cliven Bundy near Bunkerville Nev. Monday, April 7, 2014, 2014. The Bureau of Land Management has begun to round up what they call "trespass cattle" that rancher Cliven Bundy has been grazing in the Gold Butte area 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)


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Krissy Thornton, right, and Burgundy Hall protest with others near Bunkerville, Nev. Wednesday, April 9, 2014. The group is protesting the Bureau of Land Management's roundup of what they call "trespass cattle" run by Cliven Bundy in the Gold Butte area 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)


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Kellie Houston, niece of Cliven Bundy, cries after speaking at a public meeting in the Moapa Valley Community Center in Overton, Nev. Wednesday, April 9, 2014. The meeting was about the roundup by the Bureau of Land Management's of what they call "trespass cattle" run by Cliven Bundy in the Gold Butte area 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)


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Contractors for the Bureau of Land Management round up cattle belonging to Cliven Bundy with a helicopter near Bunkerville, Nev. Monday, April 7, 2014. The Bureau of Land Management has begun to round up what they call "trespass cattle" that rancher Cliven Bundy has been grazing in the Gold Butte area 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)


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Cattle belonging to Cliven Bundy are rounded up with a helicopter near Bunkerville Nev. Monday, April 7, 2014. The Bureau of Land Management has begun to round up what they call "trespass cattle" that rancher Cliven Bundy has been grazing in the Gold Butte area 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Review-Journal, John Locher)

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 11, 2014, 11:29:54 PM
I just caught this minutes ago on the tale end and so unconfirmed but from a good source at revolution radio freedom slips.

The station owner just made an announcement they have jammed internet and skype from the bundy location and they are asking for ham operators to report the situation.

This is escalating as the goons ramp up for a killing.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 11, 2014, 11:37:03 PM
I got the message again and its reporting that cell towers have been shut down and streaming internet has been shut down and the station owner wants ham operators to call in and report the situation.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 12, 2014, 12:11:48 AM
Here is the recording of the call to help for area ham operators at the Bundy ranch situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaw2D9WtFVM
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 12, 2014, 12:23:06 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 11, 2014, 10:48:34 PMWhat's more, they have declared a zone around the area to be free of the restrictions of the Constitution, specifically, the First Amendment right to assemble and speak freely (http://www.infowars.com/nevada-governor-blasts-feds-first-amendment-area-in-bundy-dispute/).

Yeah they creates THIS area to protest in

(http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/field/media/web1_bundy_040114JL_03_2.jpg)

Seems that battle has been won :D

"Before the federal roundup of Bundy's livestock began, the BLM set up two orange plastic pens as rallying points for demonstrators wanting to protest the ongoing operation on federal land 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. The move drew criticism from elected leaders and others. In a statement Tuesday, Gov. Brian Sandoval said the First Amendment areas were "offensive" and called on the agency to remove them.

During a conference call with reporters Thursday afternoon, Amy Lueders, state director for the BLM in Nevada, said the agency heard the governor's concerns and "made some adjustments" to address them.

"We are allowing people to congregate on public land as long as they don't inhibit the operation," she said."


http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/bundy-vs-blm-interest-cattle-dispute-widens
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 12, 2014, 01:52:42 AM
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20 Cowboys Break Fed Blockade in Nevada, Retrieve Cattle (http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-break-fed-blockade-in-nevada-retrieve-cattle/)

Infowars.com
April 10, 2014

On Wednesday several of supporters were assaulted by Bureau of Land Management agents.


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Ammon Bundy, the son of besieged Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, told Infowars reporter David Knight today around 20 cowboys went on land claimed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and retrieved cattle.

"We gathered about 30 head," said Bundy. "We did have a small confrontation with them, but they didn't have the forces to do a whole lot. They couldn't mobilize fast enough and we were able to gather those cattle and get them to the ranch."

Cliven Bundy and his family are currently engaged in a standoff with the BLM over a long standing refusal to acknowledge a 1993 modification to grazing rights on land that Bundy asserts has been in his family since 1870. On Saturday, hundreds of federal officials, aided by helicopters, low flying aircraft and hired cowboys, began rounding up Bundy's cattle in northeastern Clark County.

Bundy's dispute with the feds escalated yesterday when several of his supporters were assaulted (http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-break-fed-blockade-in-nevada-retrieve-cattle/) by BLM officials.


The BLM is currently rounding up Bundy's cattle in order to enforce a regulation in order to protect an endangered desert tortoise after 600,000 acres of public land was reclassified as federal property.

During that confrontation, Ammon Bundy, was tasered. His sister, a cancer victim, and a pregnant woman were assaulted by BLM agents.

Cliven Bundy's sister, Margaret Houston, was also thrown to the ground by a BLM agent.

"I have 11 children, I'm 57 years old and they threw me to the dirt....I was just taking pictures, I just said get out of here," said Houston, a recovering cancer victim, later telling a news station that she was also hit by a vehicle.

Asserting he was prepared to die for his land, another Bundy family relative stated, "I just saw federal agents throw my aunt on the ground, I saw my cousin get tased three times, I saw them pull dogs and sick it on a pregnant woman....I got hit by multiple vehicles because I wanted a couple of questions....this is America and they are the aggressors, we are not the aggressors."

Protesters chanted "no BLM" as the standoff came to an end. BLM agents began to leave while being yelled at to "get out of here!"

Ammon told Knight and Infowars state representatives will address demonstrators later today.

The feds have rounded up 352 of Bundy's animals so far. Armed militia groups are now heading to the area to express support for Bundy while making assurances that they only intend to document the situation and have no interest in sparking violence.

The Bundy family is currently under constant surveillance by around 200 armed federal agents in a military compound near the ranch. Authorities are enforcing a law that forbids grazing rights on federal land under the justification of protecting an endangered desert tortoise.

Bundy and his supporters insist that the spat has nothing to do with unpaid grazing fees or tortoises and everything to do with an out of control big government asserting its power over patriotic Americans.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mKKQUZ5_us

Nevada Rancher Under Siege By 200 Federal Agents: Full Interview - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mKKQUZ5_us)

Published on Apr 9, 2014
On this Wednesday April 9 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex covers the latest developments on the federal government's persecution of a rancher over grazing rights in Nevada. The rancher, Cliven Bundy, will talk with Alex on today's worldwide broadcast.

Bundy's refusal to recognize federal authority over the land under dispute and his failure to pay tens of thousands of dollars in grazing fees stems from his assertion that his family's history trumps Byzantine government bureaucracy. Alex also covers Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval's criticism of the feds after they established a "free speech zone" for Bundy supporters.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Eighthman on April 12, 2014, 02:02:42 AM
http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/291-federal-lands-in-the-us

A point to consider: the "state of Nevada" is almost a fiction, an imaginary place because nearly every square mile is "owned" by the Federal government.  Discussions about this controversy should begin by considering how extreme the situation is - as created by creeping tyranny.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: sky otter on April 12, 2014, 02:04:28 AM


can you say armed civil war..can you say marshall law.. :(
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 12, 2014, 02:06:57 AM

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 02:16:39 AM
Freinds of Cliven Bundy

Facebook
I was asked to post about the service: The Bundy Ranch said this about it: "We are experiencing slow internet and bad cell service, we do not believe the government is shutting us down via cellular towers etc, Once again no proof that they are or aren't, lots of Rumors saying they are. But we have no evidence, could be other issues.....
https://www.facebook.com/support.cliven.bundy


Twitter

If you are heading to the @BundyRanch and you are carrying weapons, please follow state law. Police are cracking down. #RangeWar #2A

https://twitter.com/bundyranch17
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 02:24:23 AM
Out-of-state groups ride in to stand with Nevada rancher in battle with feds over grazing rights

FOX NEWS

Quote"Our mission here is to protect the protestors and the American citizens from the violence that the federal government is dishing out," Jim Landy, a member of the West Mountain Rangers, who made the journey from Montana to Nevada, told Fox News Channel. "People here are scared."

Bundy's family called for support this week after some incidents of violence between the family and protestors with law-enforcement. Bundy's son was shot with a stun gun on Wednesday and his sister, Margaret Houston was pushed to the ground in incidents caught on video. The protests began to grow last week, after agents from the federal Bureau of Land Management shut off access to a large swath of federal land to round up Bundy's cattle.

Landy said groups were going to the scene to try to help keep the peace.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/11/militia-groups-come-to-aid-nevada-rancher-in-battle-with-feds/

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 12, 2014, 02:30:18 AM
"It is not about turtles,
it is about water."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOVg5R4ngA

BREAKING: Militia Arrives at Bundy Ranch - YouTube[/url]

Published on Apr 10, 2014

We bring you now the latest from the Bundy Ranch, where the militia has arrived in support of Cliven Bundy in his stand off against the Federal Government, where the Bureau of Land Management has surrounded his ranch with snipers, helicopters and heavy equipment.

Governor Sandoval and Sen. Dean Heller have condemned the actions of the BLM:

The governor has released a statement:

"No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists
nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans."


Sheriff Richard Mack, of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, has declared the Governor's words to be, just that - WORDS - and that immediate action on the part of the Governor should be take to call off the pending Range War.

Radio Host Pete Santilli of Guerrilla Media Network, is standing by on the scene where the Militia has arrived to support the Bundy Family.

Rusty Hill, a former Land Broker who worked in that area for nearly 20 years issued this to our news room, "It is not about turtles it is about water. There are developers working for military contractors that want that land and water for mining weapons grade minerals for industry... they want to sell the land by the highway for real estate development because it's close to I-15 and the Bundy's have been refusing to sell what they actually own directly for over 20 years.

Many buyers sent me out there with crazy offers for that land for many years. It is prime real estate not worthless desert. There is a natural gas pipeline going through there and lots of water under ground too.

Somebody connected to a military corporation is using political power and the BLM to muscle those people out."
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 03:53:15 AM
QuoteHundreds pouring into Bunkerville for cattle rancher protest

KTNV Action News?@KTNV·2 hrs
Hundreds pouring into Bunkerville for cattle rancher protest http://on.ktnv.com/1kf5LnW

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nevada-rancher-tense-standoff-federal-government-article-1.1751348



QuoteAmmon Bundy, the son of besieged Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, told Infowars reporter David Knight today(April 10) around 20 cowboys went on land claimed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and retrieved cattle.

"We gathered about 30 head," said Bundy. "We did have a small confrontation with them, but they didn't have the forces to do a whole lot. They couldn't mobilize fast enough and we were able to gather those cattle and get them to the ranch."
http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-break-fed-blockade-in-nevada-retrieve-cattle/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on April 12, 2014, 09:24:44 AM
This is not going to end pretty. The more that show up, the more their hand will be forced to bring in other options. I think that if even one bullet is fired they will gas the lot of them and they will wake up in a camp un-armed and branded for life. And cows don't eat turtles. They just walk by them. The real reason for this is getting to be like finding Flight 370. Will we ever know for sure? Money is in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Eighthman on April 12, 2014, 02:48:32 PM
I speculate that some Federal official may de-escalate the situation.  Otherwise, they run the risk of creating martyrs and exposing their police state intentions in a manner that causes mass awakening.  If people are piling up guns and ammo now, imagine what happens after another Ruby Ridge gone big time.

I also note the tragedy of veterans suicides.  Given that, how close to the edge can many in the military get if some aroused by a tyrannical government?  It would contradict the 'fat and lazy' notion of average americans likely held by the elite.

This can end well in regard to freedom but I hope it ends without bloodshed.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Norval on April 12, 2014, 03:54:21 PM
, , , , one day CONFRONTATION will be inevitable !  :'(
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 12, 2014, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 12, 2014, 02:30:18 AM

Rusty Hill, a former Land Broker who worked in that area for nearly 20 years issued this to our news room,??"It is not about turtles it is about water. There are developers working for military contractors that want that land and water for mining weapons grade minerals for industry... they want to sell the land by the highway for real estate development because it's close to I-15 and the Bundy's have been refusing to sell what they actually own directly for over 20 years.

Many buyers sent me out there with crazy offers for that land for many years. It is prime real estate not worthless desert. There is a natural gas pipeline going through there and lots of water under ground too.

Somebody connected to a military corporation is using political power and the BLM to muscle those people out."


So... military wants the land huh?

... I guess I get to say  "Told you so!" :P
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 05:06:21 PM
Official Bundy Facebook

Cliven Bundy is meeting with Sheriff Gillespie this morning.

Quote

Clark County Sheriff Douglas Gillespie will be meeting with Cliven Bundy


https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 12, 2014, 05:20:05 PM
You guys DO realize the Bundys are going to lose in this?

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 05:25:31 PM
A major development in the showdown at the Bundy ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada -- Possible deal is in the works.

This would be the best possible outcome IMO,
one that never would have happened without the support
offered from people showing up and gaining national
attention from many Law Enforcement, and Elected Officials.

QuoteThe I-Team has learned that a tentative deal has been brokered by Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie to de-escalate the tense standoff between rancher Cliven Bundy and his supporters and the Bureau of Land Management.

Sources tell the I-Team that Sheriff Gillespie has negotiated a potential agreement in which the BLM would halt its roundup of Bundy's cattle and withdraw its employees from the Gold Butte area.

The BLM wants to proceed with the sale of the cattle already gathered during the roundup but is reportedly willing to share the revenue from the sale with Bundy.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25230368/major-development-in-bunkerville-cattle-battle-between-cliven-bundy-and-blm
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 06:12:49 PM
Update:
BREAKING NEWS: BLM ends roundup of Bundy cattle


QuoteLAS VEGAS -- The Bureau of Land Management has announced it will stop the roundup of cattle owned by rancher Cliven Bundy. The BLM says the animals have been illegally grazing on public lands for 20 years.

The BLM made the announcement Saturday morning, a week after rangers started gathering the animals from land near Gold Butte.

The agency says it is concerned about the safety of its employees and the public. Earlier this week, BLM officers and supporters of the Bundy family were involved in a scuffle. Cliven Bundy's son, Ammon Bundy, was tased twice by federal agents. Another woman said she was thrown to the ground by an officer.

With more Bundy supporters pouring in from around the country, safety concerns began to grow.


http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25230368/major-development-in-bunkerville-cattle-battle-between-cliven-bundy-and-blm


Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 12, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
My faith in Nevada hath been restored :D

on a side note... I am now on George Knapp's friend list at FB :D
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 12, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 05:25:31 PM
"The BLM wants to proceed with the sale of the cattle already gathered during the roundup but is reportedly willing to share the revenue from the sale with Bundy."

A first in Cattle Rustling history   LOL The Rustler willing to share part of the profits of the theft :P
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 06:55:28 PM
Quote from: zorgon on April 12, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
A first in Cattle Rustling history   LOL The Rustler willing to share part of the profits of the theft :P

Yep.. how many Water Towers did they destroy,
as you had mentioned he bought the water rights long ago?


Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 12, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
This land grab is reminiscent of a time back 1980s when the California cabazon Indians who numbered only around 20, were used by the whackenhut security front of the us government for a secret weapons development base.

They had an Indian casino with some very covert and bizarre non tribal characters involved. This was around the time the PROMIS software was heisted away from inslaw by government agents and a very strange character named Micheal Reconisuito re coded back doors in the software before being sold to world governments.

An agent for the government named Jimmy Hughes who was the tribal casino non tribal security director along with an even more stranger fellow named Nichols, appeared to run the place and the secret operations going on in the desert of Joshua tree.

Turned out the ex tribal leader named Alvarez was murdered one sunny afternoon in his patio while having drinks with two friends who, for just being there, were killed also, all shot execution style. The reason being, tribal leader Albert Alvarez was against the secret cabal operating in the tribes territory.

The triple murder went unsolved for decades but a daughter of one person killed there refused to stop looking for the killer. Turned out to be an ex military ranger gone all god smacked and skipped the country to Honduras to start anew and open a ministry of god. Jimmy was still a killer though and when he slipped into Miami he was picked up and brought to trial.

Jimmy Hughes admitted he did it and they let him go. Thats justice in america.

So now we know this land has military value exceeding the rights of people who been there for a century.

Seeing all this unfold, imagine if you can how the Indians felt back in the 1800s as it was taken from them and they were killed for acting like they owned it after being residents for centuries before the white man came, saw and decided to take it all.

Ironic isn't it, were seeing that exact same event occurring once again

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 12, 2014, 11:56:17 PM
@Gigas, good points.
You might like this video by Russell Means

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3IUnFq3U0Y


Now....an update from The Bundy Ranch.

BREAKING NEWS:

The BLM Have left where they were staying! They then let the Cattle released! They are moving towards the Ranch this very instant, WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH!

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 13, 2014, 12:07:26 AM
The patriots at the Bundy Ranch are an example of what all Americans should do. STAND FOR YOUR FREEDOM, STAND AGAINST A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, AND STAND FOR WHAT MADE AMERICA GREAT! ~ Defend Freedom


Welcome to Nevada!!!!
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 01:02:42 AM

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The above David Blackmon story has already been scrubbed from all Forbes sites.   :P

However:

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» Breaking: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch (http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/)

Kit Daniels
Infowars.com
April 11, 2014

The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) former senior adviser (http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/09/nevadan-named-blm-chief/), has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.


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Corrupt Democratic Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) working with the Chinese gov't to take land from hard-working Americans.


Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3142972/posts?page=99), the BLM document entitled "Cattle Trespass Impacts" directly states that Bundy's cattle "impacts" solar development, more specifically the construction of "utility-scale solar power generation facilities (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/energy/dry_lake_sez.Par.3790.File.dat/FAQs%20Oct2012.pdf)" on "public lands."

"Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle," the document states.



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The first segment of the document pulled by the feds from BLM.gov.


Another moronic, self-serving 'law' coming to light that is designed for one thing: screw We, The People.

Quote
2. What is off-site mitigation and does SRMP fit?

Off-site mitigation is covered under current BLM policy and consists of compensating for resource impacts by replacing or providing substitute resources or habitat at a different location than the project area.

Off-site mitigation is supplemental to on-site mitigation and is used to enhance the BLM's ability to fulfill its mission of providing multiple uses on the public lands, while ensuring its resource management objectives are met.

Solar regional mitigation planning for SEZs [Solar Energy Zones) would be considered a strategic approach to off-site mitigation, one that specifically identifies compensation priorities based on landscape-level or other ecological, recreation, or socioeconomic objectives.

Any off-site mitigation and compensation, including regional mitigation planning for SEZs, would be triggered only for unavoidable impacts that could not be measurably avoided or minimized to an acceptably low significance level. source (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/energy/dry_lake_sez.Par.3790.File.dat/FAQs%20Oct2012.pdf)


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Another BLM report entitled "Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone" (BLM Technical Note 444 (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf)) reveals that Bundy's land in question is within the "Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area" which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for "Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States" on land "managed" by BLM.


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"In 2012, the BLM and the U.S. Department of Energy published the Final Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States," the report reads. "The Final Solar Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement assessed the impact of utility-scale solar energy development on public lands in the six southwestern states of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah."


"The Approved Resource Management Plan Amendments/Record of Decision (ROD) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States implemented a comprehensive solar energy program for public lands in those states and incorporated land use allocations and programmatic and SEZ-specific design features into land use plans in the six-state study area."


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Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid's son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/energy/item/12730-harry-reid-bolsters-son's-interests-in-chinese-solar-plant-deal).

QuoteENN Energy Group, a clean-energy firm that manufactures a range of renewable-energy products, is seeking to construct its solar panel facility on a 9,000-acre stretch of land on a Clark County desert plot.

The controversy stems from the fact that Clark County officials voted to sell ENN the public land for $4.5 million, a figure startlingly below the $38.6-million appraisal.


Move along, sheeple. Nothing going on here...business as usual.  :P


After more than two years of secret negotiations beginning in 2009, lawmakers in Clark County, Nevada, unanimously agreed to sell 9,000 acres of public land to ENN for the bargain price of just $4.5 million ($500 per acre) in December 2011.


This is where they commit perjury.


QuoteBoth Rory and his father have since denied having ever discussed the $5-billion deal. A spokeswoman for Sen. Reid, Kristen Orthman, insisted that he'd never deliberated over the project with his son. Rory Reid added, "I have never discussed the project with my father or his staff."

Too bad perjury is not punishable as treason.


To expedite the project, ENN recruited Nevada's largest and most renowned law firm, Lionel Sawyer & Collins, where Rory Reid works.  :P

Moreover, Richard Bryan, who has an extensive history in the state's political system — a former Nevada governor, attorney general, and U.S. senator — heads the Chinese energy firm.

Quote"Senator Reid has actually gone to China, has actually had visits with the chairman of ENN, the entire global enterprise, has actually taken a look at some of their developments there," Bryan said of Reid's involvement. "It would seem to me that Senator Reid would exercise his persuasive powers on behalf of the state of Nevada."


Wang's company wants to build (http://www.pv-tech.org/news/enn_mojave_energy_planning_to_build_720mw_solar_system_and_manufacturing_pl) a 720-megawatt solar farm, research park, and thin-film solar panel manufacturing facility in southern Nevada, and has said it expects to spend between $4 billion and $6 billion on the project. That is at least half the $8 billion ENN plans to invest in green energy in the United States over the next decade.

QuoteThe proposed project, titled the Mohave Green Center, will feature a 93,000-square-metre factory with the capacity to manufacture 5.4 million silicon thin-film panels a year from its six production lines. The adjoining power plant will be built in two 360MW phases, using modules from the factory. Capital investment in the project is expected to total somewhere between US$4 billion and US$6 billion.

Due to its close proximity to Nevada's borders with California and Arizona, as well as to several substations, the plant is ideally situated to take advantage of several lucrative consumer markets. However, ENN's representative, the former US Senator and Nevada governor Richard Bryan, has already stated that while no power purchase agreement has been signed for the project, Nevada utility NV Energy first will have first refusal; around 100MW of capacity will also be used to run the factory.


One potential stumbling block for ENN is the title restriction on land earmarked for development that forbids it being used for industrial or energy-related purposes.

Although Bryan believes that with the help of the US Senate and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar this particular obstacle can be overcome.  souce (http://www.pv-tech.org/news/enn_mojave_energy_planning_to_build_720mw_solar_system_and_manufacturing_pl)


The project is threatened, however, because NV Energy—Nevada's largest utility provider—has said it is not in the market (http://www.reviewjournal.com/steve-sebelius/costs-conflicts-arise-reid-push-green-power) for renewable energy at this time, citing the higher costs of solar power and the fact that it has already exceeded the state-mandated quota for renewable sources through 2014.

Reid has responded by badmouthing NV Energy (http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/economy/reid-wants-nv-energy-coal-plant-shut-down) and threatening to have one of its coal-fired power plants shut down.



As reported, the ENN deal ignited a heated controversy, mainly because separate appraisals valued the plot of land at $29.6 million and $38.6 million, tens of millions of dollars more than the selling price.

However, the county commissioners drafted a series of conditions that must be met before the project can launch, including achievements in job creation and investment, and a provision stating that ENN must have a power company committed to purchasing energy from the new plant.

The latter requirement has been the primary obstacle — then, Harry Reid stepped in.
The Nevada senator recently initiated an online discussion, purportedly to address his annual energy summit, as an effort to persuade NV Energy, the state's largest utility company, to ink a deal as ENN's first customer.

QuoteIn the July 30 forum, Reid asserted that construction on the project "would start tomorrow if NV Energy would purchase the power." The power company controls "95 percent of all of the electricity that is produced in Nevada and they should go along with this," he added.



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And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831).

"[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert," he wrote. "Reid has been one of the project's most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada."

"His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission."

ENN is headed by Chinese energy tycoon Wang Yusuo (http://www.worldofceos.com/dossiers/yusuo-wang), who made a fortune estimated by Forbes at $2.2 billion distributing natural gas in China. Wang escorted Reid and a delegation of nine other U.S. senators on a tour of the company's clean energy operations in Langfang, and Reid featured Wang as a speaker at his 4th annual National Clean Energy Summit (http://www.cleanenergyprojectnv.org/projects/national-clean-energy-summit) in Las Vegas last year.


Although these reports are in plain view, the mainstream media has so far ignored this link.

The BLM's official reason for encircling the Bundy family with sniper teams and helicopters was to protect the endangered desert tortoise, which the agency has previously been killing in mass due to "budget constraints." (http://www.infowars.com/before-nevada-cattle-rancher-dispute-blm-was-euthanizing-endangered-desert-tortoise/)


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700 – 840 endangered tortoises face BLM euthanization "because that's the sensible thing to do."

» Before Nevada Cattle Rancher Standoff, BLM Killed Off Hundreds of Endangered Tortoises (http://www.infowars.com/before-nevada-cattle-rancher-dispute-blm-was-euthanizing-endangered-desert-tortoise/)

[...] All of this illustrates how the BLM's dispute with Mr. Bundy has nothing to do with saving or protecting tortoises (most of which were given to the facility by people who owned them as pets, and which the BLM is either killing or releasing into the wild – animals raised in captivity don't usually fare well in the wild) as they claim, and everything to do with making an example out of Mr. Bundy for having the gall to stand up for his property, bullying him into submission by brute force.

"A tortoise isn't the reason why BLM is harassing a 67 year-old rancher; they want his land," journalist Dana Loesch wrote.

"The tortoise wasn't of concern when [U.S. Senator] Harry Reid worked with BLM to literally change the boundaries of the tortoise's habitat to accommodate the development of his top donor, Harvey Whittemore (http://www.fbi.gov/lasvegas/press-releases/2013/former-nevada-lobbyist-harvey-whittemore-convicted-of-making-unlawful-senate-campaign-contributions)."

"Reid is accused of using the new BLM chief as a puppet to control Nevada land (already over 84% of which is owned by the federal government) and pay back special interests," she added.

"BLM has proven that they've a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they've had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development.

Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing area."


"If only Cliven Bundy were a big Reid donor."


Update: The Drudge Report (http://www.drudgereport.com/), the #1 news aggregate site in the world, has now picked up this story. Unfortunately for the BLM, the documents they wanted to delete are now exposed for the world to see.

Update #2: ENN Energy Group describes itself as a "privately-owned clean energy distributor in China." However, as the People's Republic of China is a single-party state governed by the Communist Party, all large companies in China, one way or the other, are either controlled or are heavily influenced by the Chinese government.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 13, 2014, 01:19:51 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 01:02:42 AM

"If only Cliven Bundy were a big Reid donor."


Maybe after this Nevada will send Harry Reid a message:
Go Home Harry! Afterall he has been in the Senate since 1987,
and has forgot he is there to serve the people!

Send Harry packin his bags!

And now....to show how dastardly corrupt the BLM
really is...they have killed hundreds of
Desert Tortoise claiming they did not have enough
money to keep them alive!

Hogwash!

The U.S. U.S. Bureau of Land Management auctioned off 29 land leases in Elko County, Nev for shale development!
Quote

Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:38 am


RENO, Nev. (AP) — Buyers snapped up 29 federal land leases totaling more than 56 square miles in a northeastern Nevada area.

This could become the state's first oil shale fracking site.

U.S. Bureau of Land Management geologist Lorenzo Trimble tells the Las Vegas Review-Journal the Elko County oil and gas leases sold Tuesday for $1.27 million to six different companies.
http://m.shalereporter.com/industry/article_0de547ba-8ca4-11e2-ab4e-0019bb30f31a.html

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The way this works, of course, is that BLM runs land theft operations by claiming they are "managing" the land and thereby kicking everyone else off it. They then invoke a reptile, an owl, a bird, a snake or some other animal which they claim to be "saving," even while they are stealing and destroying hundreds of cattle belonging to a private rancher trying to make an honest living in a nation where productive Americans are increasingly branded "enemies of the state."

Once control of the land is established via court order or by bringing armed men with automatic weapons, BLM then turns around and leases the land to fracking companies who proceed to exploit the land using hydraulic fracturing techniques that inject toxic chemicals into groundwater supplies (and have been linked to earthquakes). The money collected by the BLM is then used to increase BLM salaries and bonuses.

In essence, the BLM is a criminal mafia racket, and Cliven Bundy just happened to be in the way of their next target, the Gold Butte area of Nevada. That is why they brought hundreds of heavily armed men to a "save the tortoise" operation.
http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html#

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 13, 2014, 01:45:54 PM
"Funny how the government will arrest cows for trespassing but not illegal aliens."

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 02:44:42 PM

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(JERRY HENKEL/LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL)


In addition to Reid's and his son's questionable affairs with the ENN project, the Nevada senator has had other dubious political dealings within the clean-energy sector. American solar firm Amonix, for example, recently slipped into financial disarray after receiving (http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/economy/amonix-closes-north-las-vegas-solar-plant-after-14-months) $6 million in federal tax credits and a $15.6-million grant in 2007 for research and development.
 
Amazingly, the company is only 16 months old, without any track record of success, yet it received a multi-million-dollar, taxpayer-funded jackpot. Many critics asked why. In a July article, the Las Vegas Review-Journal offered this answer (http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/economy/amonix-closes-north-las-vegas-solar-plant-after-14-months):

Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, U.S. Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., and Gov. Brian Sandoval were among the political leaders who lauded the company when it announced it would start making solar panels in the Golden Triangle Industrial Park.

Reid in particular has pushed for solar energy research and development in Nevada, drawing parallels between the value of Nevada sunshine and Saudi Arabian oil.


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DOE-Loan Programs Office » Nevada Geothermal Power Company, Inc. (Blue Mountain) (https://lpo.energy.gov/projects/nevada-geothermal-power-company-inc/)

Of course, Amonix was not the only Nevada-based green energy project to lurch into financial ruin. Nevada Geothermal, a renewable energy company that secured a $98-million federal loan guarantee, acknowledged (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/4/lights-go-dim-on-another-energy-project/) in an SEC filing this summer that "material uncertainties exist which cast significant doubt upon the company's ability to continue as a going concern."

Similar to his dealings with Amonix, Sen. Reid was largely instrumental in securing government support for Nevada Geothermal. In fact, according to the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/03/business/a-us-backed-geothermal-plant-in-nevada-struggles.html?_r=2&hpw&), Reid "pressur[ed] the Department of Interior to move more quickly on applications to build clean energy projects on federally owned land and urg[ed] other member of Congress to expand federal tax incentives to help build geothermal plants, benefits that Nevada Geothermal has taken advantage of."

And now, it seems Sen. Reid's political status has influenced not only the green-energy agendas in his state but the financial interests of Nevada's largest law firm — where it just so happens his son is employed. source (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/energy/item/12730-harry-reid-bolsters-son's-interests-in-chinese-solar-plant-deal)  :P



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A federal court has ordered rancher Cliven Bundy to remove his cattle from land managed by the Bureau of Land Management in central Nevada. He refuses to do so. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times / August 20, 2013)


Bundy Ranch, the Federal Government, and the Nevada Water Tipping Point (http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/bundy_ranch_the_federal_government_and_the_nevada_water_tipping_point.html)

April 12, 2014
By Monica Morrill

Many Americans have been watching with great consternation the ongoing struggle between the Federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the U.S. Marshals against Cliven Bundy and his family. There are no signs of either side relinquishing their position. Many onlookers have been informed that this dispute is over protecting the desert tortoise. But it is nothing of the sort. In fact, the reality of the dispute goes far underneath what is being talked about.

The more appropriate source of the dispute is ground water as well as surface water -- this is a war over water.

Cliven Bundy and his family claim that they can trace their family ownership back to around the 1870s on their current property in Clark County. This is well before any Federal offices such as the EPA, BLM, or water management were created.

This corresponds with the Homestead rights that were established during the Lincoln administration in 1862 to entice people to settle the western frontier and expand the U.S. agricultural enterprises. This 19th-century policy was meant to encourage and support settlement by families like the Bundys.

Now, over 150 years later, what seemed to be borderless country surrounding small-town Bunkerville in Nevada is an inhospitable petri dish for the experiments of growing Federal regulations.


The Bundy Ranch "VO" is now the the last large cattle ranch (http://http//bundyranch.blogspot.com) standing in Clark County. 

According to an anonymous source who has lived in Nevada for thirty-five years, the other major ranches in Clark County have been driven out of existence for one reason or another by the BLM and the Feds.

It is claimed that the BLM are masquerading as conservationists, using their Federal power to wield the final blow to reclaim the settlement rights they once honored to settlers like the Bundys.
For two decades, Bundy has waged a one-man range war with federal officials over his cattle's grazing on 150 square miles of scrub desert overseen by the BLM.

Since 1993, he's refused to pay BLM grazing fees, arguing in court filings that his Mormon ancestors worked the land long before the BLM was formed, giving him rights that predate federal involvement. (BLM claims he owes more that $1 million.)

Bundy also likes to say he "fired the BLM," vowing not to give one dime to an agency that he says is plotting his demise. The back fees exceed $300,000, he said.


FYI: There were 470,000 cattle and 29,000 dairy cows in Nevada in 2012, the state Agriculture Department reports.


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Follow the Money
The real wealth is in the water to support the plush green golf courses, and surrounding housing developments, gleaming swimming pools, and other demands by hotels and households in Las Vegas, Arizona, and Southern California.

The same anonymous source claims that there has been a pattern of behavior: land in Clark County has been targeted as property that the BLM can use; the BLM makes an offer to buy the property from the owner (prices vary but it can be a very low market price); the BLM purchases the land; the property is then stripped of the water rights; and the land is resold without the right to water resources.

But what good is a farm or ranch without water?


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In other words, the BLM is not only driving out the cattle, the cattle rancher, and potentially any wildlife that depends on the riparian environment. The BLM is setting up a situation whereby the surrounding small towns will also go extinct.

The BLM's actions are ensuring that no one will return to the area.

Although Nevada Senator Dean Heller has issued a public statement (http://www.heller.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=c12f95bd-6872-4c3e-99bc-12fca2f4debf) about his concern over the handling of the Bundy family case, he has not elaborated on the water issue.

The author made several attempts to reach Heller's Communications Director regarding the importance of water related to this case, but there was no response from Senator Heller's office. (UPDATE: See "Heller" below.)

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has kept his official statement simple over the past few days. Senator Reid, "hopes that the transpassing of cattle are rounded up safely so the issue can be resolved."   :P

While it is not clear exactly what "transpassing" means, what is more obvious is that some in the media have overlooked the small detail that the head of the Bureau of Land Management, a division of the Department of Interior, is Neil Kornze, who was also the former Senior Policy Advisor to Senator Reid from 2003 to 2011. Mr. Kornze has served as the BLM Principal Deputy Director for a little over a year until the U.S. Senate confirmed him as the Director of the BLM (http://www.doi.gov/whoweare/blm-dir.cfm) a few days ago.

QuoteKornze was a key player in the development of the Western Solar Plan and the agency's successful authorization of more than 10,000 megawatts of renewable energy, surpassing a congressionally-established goal 3 years ahead of schedule. He has also been active in tribal consultation, especially as it relates to oil and gas and renewable energy development.

On April 8th, three days ago, Senator Reid posted the following press release on his website:
"I'm pleased that the Senate confirmed Neil Kornze as the Director of the Bureau of Land Management today. Neil is just perfect for this position. Raised in Elko, Nevada, Neil really understands the role of public lands in rural America, and natural resources across the West."

Senator Reid continued, "His expertise is going to be invaluable to the Bureau of Land Management. I have every bit of confidence that Neil Kornze will be the best director we have ever had at BLM and I wish him success in this role."

Furthermore, it might be coincidental that the problems with the Bundy cattle ranching began in 1993, the same year Patricia Mulroy began serving as general manager of the Southern Nevada Water Authority. From 1989, Ms. Mulroy was also the general manager of the Las Vegas Valley Water District. The author attempted to contact Ms. Mulroy for a comment but she retired from both positions a few months ago in February.

It's also possible the drought in the western states could have been the catalyst to the desperate actions by the Federal authorities surrounding the Bundy cattle operation.


Heller UPDATE:

Heller Expresses Disappointment over BLM's Handling of Cattle Roundup - Press Releases - News - United States Senator Dean Heller (http://www.heller.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=c12f95bd-6872-4c3e-99bc-12fca2f4debf)

April 9, 2014
Urges the agency to preserve Nevadans' constitutional rights
(Washington, D.C.) – Today, U.S. Senator Dean Heller (R-NV) issued this statement regarding land closures that the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has initiated due to the ongoing, court-ordered roundup of rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle:

"I spoke with BLM Director Kornze this morning to express great disappointment with the way that this situation is being handled.

I told him very clearly that law-abiding Nevadans must not be penalized by an over-reaching BLM. After hearing from local officials and residents, and receiving feedback from the Nevada Cattlemen's Association in a meeting this morning, I remain extremely concerned about the size of this closure and disruptions with access to roads, water and electrical infrastructure.

I will continue to closely monitor this situation, and urge the BLM to make the necessary changes in order to preserve Nevadans' constitutional rights."





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Currently, water rights in Nevada run anywhere from $7,000 to $50,000 per acre foot (depending on the time of year and the amount of rainfall or snowfall in the western region). The water in Nevada is then auctioned, as it has been for at least twenty-five years. That same water can be resold in Las Vegas, Arizona, or Southern California.

Bunkerville in Nevada is ensconced between the Virgin River and the main road, Riverside Road. The Virgin River is a tributary to Lake Mead. The river, along with other sources, discharges into Lake Mead, the largest reservoir in the United States. Both the Virgin River and Lake Mead are part of the Colorado River Basin. In fact, Lake Mead is considered to be the largest surface water collection for the Colorado River.

Whoever controls the water controls the vast wealth that is distributed to a network of states at a crucial time during a water shortage.

So why then are there rumors of about 5,000 concerned citizens flocking to the aid of a family that seems to have a simple property-right dispute?

It appears that it is because it is not just the Bundy Family under threat of threats of regulations -- a figurative gun ready to fire at their very existence. The citizens of America have either long tolerated mounting regulations or they have not noticed them.

Americans have been surrounded, deliberately corralled, by an increasing code of regulations. Americans have regulations pointed at their healthcare in the form of ObamaCare, their finances by the mercurial IRS, their communications by the NSA, the future education of young Americans by the newly launched Common Core.

When will Americans reach the tipping point?

It might all begin in Senator Reid's home state -- the Nevadan Wild West.


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The first segment of the document pulled by the feds from BLM.gov.


Reid and his eldest son, reports indicate, were integral in the support and/or implementation of a $5 billion solar plant being built in the county by a Chinese company.

Officially, the federal agency has suggested they are only after Bundy because his cattle are a threat to an endangered species of tortoise. That narrative, however, fell apart in the opinion of many critics when it was revealed the agency itself has engaged in the widespread slaughter of the animal.

The recent allegations of Reid's hand in the Bundy attack are bolstered by the fact that his former senior adviser also served as the director of the BLM. According to reports, Reid successfully redrew the endangered tortoise's protected habitat to benefit a donor, indicating his concern is more about his political and financial future than the well-being of this reptile.

Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/shocking-allegations-link-harry-reid-nevada-ranch-standoff/#Um2cXFF31qi7Xs8B.99



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As Bundy confirmed, he is far from the only rancher intimidated by the BLM. He is, however, the last one left fighting. According to a statement he made recently, there were 52 other ranchers in the vicinity of his property at one point – and they are all gone.

SIGN THE PETITION (http://www.westernjournalism.com/polls-and-petitions/stand-bundys-petition/)


Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 06:27:55 PM

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Federal agency vows to continue legal action after ending Nevada ranch standoff | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/12/federal-agency-pulls-back-in-nevada-ranch-standoff-but-legal-fight-remains/)

Published April 13, 2014
FoxNews.com


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The Bureau of Land Management vowed Saturday that it would continue its legal fight to remove illegal cattle from a rural Nevada range after ending a tense weeklong standoff with a rancher and his supporters.

"After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, [rancher Cliven] Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially," a statement from the bureau said.

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner."


BLINK!

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'OPERATION GATHER' ceases

The BLM also announced that it was wrapping up its month-long operation to seize the 900 cattle roaming on federally owned land approximately 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas and would release the 400 head of Bundy's cattle it had already seized "in order to avoid violence and help restore order."
  
"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," the statement read.," the statement read.

Bureau officials had dismantled designated protest areas supporting Bundy, who they say refuses to comply with the "same laws that 16,000 public land ranchers do every year."


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A group of about 1,000 supporting Bundy cheered and sang "The Star Spangled Banner" when BLM made its announcement.

The standoff at the ranch became increasingly tense the longer it lasted, prompting elected officials in several states to weigh in, militia members to mobilize and federal land managers to reshape elements of the operation. The Las Vegas Sun reported that some protesters were carrying handguns and rifles, but there were no reports of shots fired or injuries.

The roundup started last Saturday after the BLM and National Park Service shut down an area half the size of Delaware to let cowhands using helicopters and vehicles gather about 900 cattle that officials say are trespassing.


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Bundy, 67, and his large family cast their resistance to the roundup as a constitutional stand. He says he doesn't recognize federal authority over state land.

The dispute that triggered the roundup dates to 1993, when the BLM cited concern for the federally protected tortoise. The agency later revoked Bundy's grazing rights.

Bundy claimed ancestral rights to graze his cattle on lands his Mormon family settled in the 19th century. He stopped paying grazing fees and disregarded several court orders to remove his animals.
BLM officials, however, say Bundy owes more than $1.1 million in unpaid grazing fees. 


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BLM faced criticism when police used stun guns on one of Bundy's adult sons during a Wednesday confrontation on a state highway near the Bundy melon farm in the Gold Butte area.
 
Video of that confrontation spread on the Internet, along with blog commentary claiming excessive government force and calls to arms from self-described militia leaders. Some have invoked references to deadly confrontations with federal authorities, including a siege of a ranch home in Ruby Ridge, Idaho, in 1992 and the fiery destruction of a religious compound near Waco, Texas, that killed 76 people in 1993.


We're pretty sure that this had notning to do with their decision to stand down.   :P

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"Our mission here is to protect the protestors and the American citizens from the violence that the federal government is dishing out," Jim Landy, a member of the West Mountain Rangers, who made the journey from Montana to Nevada, told Fox News Channel.

"People here are scared."


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Arizona state Rep. Bob Thorpe of Flagstaff said he and state legislators weren't arguing whether Bundy broke laws or violated grazing agreements. Thorpe said the Arizona lawmakers were upset the BLM initially restricted protesters to so-called free speech zones.

Sen. Dean Heller and Gov. Brian Sandoval, both Republicans, have also said they were upset with the way the BLM was conducting the roundup. After the areas were removed Thursday, Sandoval issued a new statement.

"Although tensions remain high, escalation of current events could have negative, long lasting consequences that can be avoided," it said.


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Amy Lueders, BLM state director in Nevada, said Friday that two protesters were detained, cited for failure to comply with officers at a barricade on Thursday and released.

That brought the number of arrests to three. Bundy's son, Dave Bundy, was arrested Sunday on State Route 170 and released Monday with citations accusing him of refusing to disperse and resisting arrest.
Lueders said 380 cows were collected by Thursday. She declined to provide a cost estimate for the herding operation.

Fox News' Edmund DeMarche, Matt Finn and The Associated Press contributed to this report.




FOR THE RECORD


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Oath Keepers Vow to Stand by Bundy Ranch in Cattle Dispute with Feds (http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04/11/oath-keepers-vow-stand-bundy-ranch-cattle-dispute-feds/)


April 11, 2014

In response to the mounting dispute and worries this could become the next Ruby Ridge or Waco, militias from all across the country, including Texas, Montana, Utah, New Hampshire, and Florida, have mobilised to stand with the Bundy family and others protesting the BLM.

Now Oath Keepers, a non-partisan association of 40,000 current serving and former military, police, and first responders who have pledged to fulfill their oaths to 'defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic,'" has released a statement that they, too, will stand by the Bundys against the corrupt actions of this government.

It reads in part:

This is not about cattle.  This is about power, and the trampling of rights.  It's about a systemic power grab and abuse of power by the federal government as it runs roughshod over the rights of honest, hard-working rural Americans and over the rights of all the Western states.

This is not an isolated incident.

It is but the latest in a long train of abuses aimed at subjecting rural Americans to absolute despotism while destroying the property rights, economy, and independence of the rural West, in particular, and eventually wiping out all of rural America.

This is an attack on all of the West, which is why patriotic legislators and lawmen from all over the West are answering the call to defend it.

And it is not just ranching that is under attack.

It is also mining, farming, logging, fishing, oil and gas, and any other industry that uses natural resources or the land.

This is a full spectrum, frontal assault on the rural West.

Ultimately, it is about bankrupting and impoverishing independent rural Americans to bring on a planned depopulation of the West.

This is truly a range war, and it is being waged by all three branches of the federal government, including complicit federal judges who "make it legal" through their willful rulings that strip away any meaningful redress or shelter for ranchers and farmers who have worked the land for generations only to now be told that they can no longer do so because of one endangered species or another.  Entire regions of the West are being shut down and impoverished using this tactic.

In this case, the Bundy family has run cattle on that same range since 1877 and they used to have fifty-two neighboring ranchers who did the same.  Now, using the Desert Tortoise as the weapon of choice, the federal government has run all the other ranchers in Clark County, Nevada out of business, and Cliven Bundy truly is the last man standing.

And it is also about all Nevadans being "prohibited" from using their own "Public Land" and the fact that the Feds were imposing their will over the state and it's people at gun-point.

Unless We the People begin to take a meaningful stand now, in full support of our patriotic state public servants who are willing to lead us, the domestic enemies of the Constitution will not stop until the West is a land of ghost towns, devoid of people, and we are all crammed into city slums, totally dependent and weak, with no protection of our rights, like third-world urbanized peons under the arbitrary and capricious control of corrupt dictators.


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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 06:45:52 PM

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The Real Story Behind The Bundy Ranch Harassment | The Dana Show (http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/)

Posted on April 11, 2014 by danaradio

By now you're familiar with the standoff between the federal government, i.e. the Bureau of Land Management, and 67 year-old rancher Cliven Bundy. (If not, check the backstory and my radio interview with him here (http://danaloeschradio.com/the-western-war-last-remaining-rancher-vs-the-federal-govt/).)

The BLM asserts their power through the expressed desire to protect the endangered desert tortoise, a tortoise so "endangered" that their population can no longer be contained by the refuge constructed for them so the government is closing it and euthanizing over a thousand tortoises.

The tortoises, the excuse that BLM has given for violating claims to easements and running all but one lone rancher out of southern Nevada, is doing fine. In fact, the tortoise has lived in harmony with cattle in the Gold Butte, Clark County Nevada for over a hundred years, or as long as Cliven Bundy's family has lived on the land as ranchers. In fact, the real threat to it is urbanization, not cattle.


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A tortoise isn't the reason why BLM is harassing a 67 year-old rancher.

They want his land.

The tortoise wasn't of concern when Harry Reid worked BLM to literally change the boundaries of the tortoise's habitat to accommodate the development of his top donor, Harvey Whittemore (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/29/former-nevada-powerbroker_n_3354281.html). Whittemore was convicted of illegal campaign contributions to Senator Reid. Reid's former senior adviser is now the head of BLM.

Reid is accused of using the new BLM chief as a puppet to control Nevada land (already over 84% of which is owned by the federal government) and pay back special interests. BLM has proven that they've a situational concern for the desert tortoise as they've had no problem waiving their rules concerning wind or solar power development.
Clearly these developments have vastly affected a tortoise habitat more than a century-old, quasi-homesteading grazing area. If only Clive Bundy were a big Reid donor.


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BLM has also tried to argue that the rules have changed, long after Bundy claims he secured rights and paid his dues to Clark County, Nevada.

BLM says they supersede whatever agreement Bundy had prior; they demanded that he reduce his living, his thousand-some-odd head of cattle down to a tiny herd of 150. It's easy for the government to grant itself powers of overreach, but it doesn't make it right. Many bad things are done in the name of unjust laws.

Just look at Obamacare.

This heavy-handed tactic has run the other ranchers from the area and now Bundy is the last one. He's the last one because he stood up to the federal government.

So why does BLM want to run Bundy off this land and is Reid connected?
I discussed this on "Kelly File" tonight, video via Jim Hoft.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSYkWShlOXs

Dana Loesch on Ilegal Bundy Cattle: If the Cows Were Illegal Aliens They'd Get EBT Cards - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSYkWShlOXs)


*UPDATE: Those who say Bundy is a "deadbeat" are making inaccurate claims.

Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM.

The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy — or any other rancher — and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard's head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch.

Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land.

He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM.

When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying.

So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights?

Cliven Bundy's problem isn't that he didn't pay — he did — or that his cattle bother tortoises — they don't — it's that he's not a Reid donor.

**One last thought: For those conservatives saying that since BLM arrived in the late 90s, it's the law now, well, so is Obamacare.


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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 07:32:04 PM

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ENN cancels 720 MW solar renewable energy project (http://www.pennenergy.com/articles/pennenergy/2013/06/enn-cancels-solar-power-energy-project-in-colorado.html)

ENN cancels 720 MW solar project
June 17, 2013
By PennEnergy Editorial Staff


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ENN Solar Energy, a China-based company, has canceled its Mojave Green Center solar power generation project in Laughlin, Nevada.

ENN was forced to cancel the project after the company was unable to secure the power purchase agreements (PPAs) needed to move forward with the new solar complex.

The PPAs had to be secured by this month, according to the agreement approved by the County Commission in December 2011, and automatically terminated June 13.

The proposed project included plans for a 720 MW solar power farm, a silicon thin-film manufacturing plant, and a solar research and development facility on 9,000 acres in southern Clark County. ENN originally said the project would have created at least 500 jobs to the local economy by the end of 2016.

The agreement with Clark County, where Laughlin is located, was signed in December 2011 on the contingency that ENN could secure the power purchase agreements.
 
Some in the community were shocked by the cancelation of the project because of the recent closure of the San Onofre nuclear power plant. The source said the county is looking at alternative ways to economically develop the 9,000 acres ENN purchased for the project.




Nevada Solar Factory Canceled | Photovoltaic (PV) | ReWire | KCET (http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/solar/photovoltaic-pv/nevada-solar-factory-canceled.html)

A project that would have included a solar power station and a million-square-foot solar panel factory a few miles from the California state line won't be built, its backers announced last month.

The $5 billion, Chinese-backed ENN Mojave Energy project at the southernmost corner of Nevada couldn't find utilities that wanted to buy its power, either in Nevada or across the line in California.

Planned for about 9,000 acres of county-owned land on the Nevada side of the Colorado River above the gambling resort town of Laughlin, the ENN plant claimed in its initial promotional material that it would provide steady employment for between 500 and 2,000 people at its factory, with about the same number hired for short-term construction jobs. The plant would have cost between $4 and $6 billion, and was backed strongly by Nevada's senior Senator Harry Reid.

But in order to close the deal on the county land, ENN Mojave Energy needed to nail down Power Purchase Agreements for the 740 megawatts of solar power it would have produced. In 2011 when the plant was proposed, the assumption was that ENN's power would be snapped up by California utilities seeking to meet their obligations under the state's Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) law, which requires them to generate 33 percent of their power from renewable sources by 2020.

But due to both the structure of California's grid and de facto state policy (http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/the-grid/california-to-west-keep-your-renewables.html), it's much easier for California utilitiies to meet their RPS obligations with power generated in California.

As for Nevada's domestic utilities, the largest -- NV Energy -- rebuffed heated demands by Reid to buy ENN Mojave's power. NV Energy has only a 15 percent renewable energy obligation, and it's already met that goal. Buying more power from a new solar plant outside Laughlin just wasn't a prioriity for NV Energy.

In a rather pointed press statement issued a year ago this month, NV Energy's Jennifer Schuricht basically suggested that ENN take a number and stand in line to sell the utility power. "NV Energy would certainly welcome a bid from ENN when we issue the next RFP (request for proposals), and their success, like all other projects, would be dependent on the benefits, especially price, that they can demonstrate for the customers of NV Energy," said Schuricht.

The project needed power purchase agreements in place by June in order to buy the first phase's land from Clark County. Without those agreements, the deal fell through. As Tim Carlson, ENN Senior Vice President, wrote in a letter to the county, "Unfortunately, the market will not support a project of this scale and nature at this time."

Solar backers might have derived some metaphorical joy from ENN Mojave's location, had it been built: Until a few years ago, Laughlin was home to the 1,580 megawatt coal-fired Mohave Generating Station, owned by Southern California Edison. That controversial plant, which burned coal mined on the Navajo and Hopi reservations and polluted the air across the desert southwest, was shut down in 2005 and began demolition in 2009.
 
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 13, 2014, 08:07:11 PM


Exclusive audio from Natural News reveals BLM Special Agent Daniel P. Love and Guerilla Media Network host Pete Santilli discussing how they each intend to have the other arrested.



This is concerning the Bundy Ranch showdown in which BLM
ultimately backed down after arrival of thousands of armed citizens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0YemhFnw8
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on April 13, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
From:  http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2014/04/dhs-insider-bundy-ranch-standoff-not.html

QuoteIt was easy to run federal agents off wasn't it? It was too easy.

In this episode of The Truth Is Viral, host Bobby Powell puts together several pieces of information that have surfaced sine the BLM "withdrew" and conceded to the demands of Cliven Bundy. Bundy is the Nevada rancher who stood toe-to-toe with nearly 1,000 heavily federal agents for over a week. Fortunately for Bundy, thousands of unarmed protestors - and militia that were armed just as well as the federal agents were standing shoulder-to-shoulder with him.

But, as reported to investigative journalist Doug Hagmann - co-host of the Hagmann and Hagmann report along with his son Joe - by a highly-placed source inside the Department of Homeland Security, the BLM withdrawal was a fake. The entire standoff was, according to Hagmann's DHS informant, a real world exercise designed to determine what kind of resistance the federal government will face should gun confiscations begin.

From this observer's perspective that resistance will be fierce. The feds should probably buy Depends by the truckload because people are pissed, and from what we saw on alternative media livestreams broadcast during the standoff many of them are ready to rock and roll.

Acting on a tip from a view who said that he saw "many, many, many" men in military uniform and federal agents checking IN to hotels around the Bundy ranch, after the BLM allegedly stood down, when they should have been checking out, TTiV Publisher/Editor-in-Chief Bobby Powell called area hotels and confirmed that there is not a single room available anywhere near the Bundy ranch.

The response of one young lady who answered the phone at the Holiday Inn in Mesquite Nevada will chill you to the bone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8rcy1bnms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8rcy1bnms
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 13, 2014, 08:17:58 PM
Here is what we missed yesterday.
This is incredible footage, a must see!


200 Protestors Blocked I 15
in Standoff with Police, SWAT, and BLM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgbS0F1-O1A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HMZ7xi34kI

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy: "The citizens of America" got my cattle back 

Quote"There is no deal here. The citizens of America and Clark County went and took their cattle. There was no negotiations. They took these cattle," Bundy said.


Prior to the meeting that resolved the issue between the two sides, hundreds of protesters, some armed, tried storming the BLM's cattle gate, but weren't successful. The crowd was urged to wait 30 minutes and give both sides a chance to talk.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy-the-citizens-of-america-got-my-cattle-back/

QuoteFederal land managers released all 400 head of cattle rounded up on public land in southern Nevada http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cliven-bundys-fight-in-nevada-with-federal-government-takes-turn/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5uBZ7doHYk

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 13, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Uranium No. 1 claim, Gold Butte District, Clark Co., Nevada, USA
Sec 32 T18S R70E. Thorium uranium. pegmatie

http://www.mindat.org/loc-61451.html



Not much more info on this yet...
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 13, 2014, 08:56:48 PM
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BLM Seeks Public Interest for Solar Energy Development in the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone (http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/newsroom/2014/March/BLM_Seeks_Public_Interest_for_Solar_Energy_Development_in_the_Dry_Lake_Solar_Energy_Zone.html)

Release Date: 03/14/14

Contacts:

Amy Krause (BLM)
202-912-7236
 
BLM Seeks Public Interest for Solar Energy Development in the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Washington, D.C. - The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) today announced that it is accepting preliminary right-of-way (ROW) applications and expressions of interest from interested parties for conducting a solar competitive auction on the 5,717–acre Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone in Clark County, Nevada.

The BLM's current action builds on the Western Solar Energy Plan, a two-year planning effort conducted on behalf of the Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Energy to expand domestic energy production and spur development of solar energy on public lands in six western states.

The Western Solar Energy Plan provides a blueprint for utility-scale solar energy permitting in Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and Utah by establishing Solar Energy Zones with access to existing or planned transmission, incentives for development within those Solar Energy Zones, and a process through which to consider additional Solar Energy Zones and solar projects.

This public notification is the first step toward possible competitive solar energy development on public lands in the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone.  Once the 30 day notice period closes, the BLM will review all submissions from interested parties to see if other companies are interested in developing solar energy in these areas. If the BLM determines that sufficient competition exists, it may use a competitive bidding process, consistent with its regulations, to select a preferred applicant in the Solar Energy Zone.

"By locating projects in areas of high development potential and low resource conflict, the BLM is providing a more predictable process for industry while ensuring better outcomes for communities and the environment," said Principal Deputy Director Neil Kornze.  "In addition, competitive bidding for solar energy development ensures that we are securing a fair return for the American taxpayer."

Today's announcement also includes the release of the "Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone," (http://www.ntc.blm.gov/krc/uploads/704/6-Dry%20Lake%20Solar%20Energy%20Zone.pdf) a pilot effort by the BLM that identifies mitigation priorities and options in advance of development.

The strategy takes into account the resource conditions of the land and regional trends informed by BLM's recent Rapid Ecoregional Assessments.

Regional mitigation plans are intended to provide a more predictable and effective landscape-scale approach to mitigation, while providing both greater certainty for project developers and more benefit to the natural resources affected by energy development.

The Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone is the first of several pilot plans to be developed by the BLM.  

The strategy was developed in collaboration with dozens of stakeholders to address key issues such as where and how mitigation may be achieved and the costs associated with doing so.

The BLM will conduct additional stakeholder outreach on the development of future regional mitigation strategies for solar energy zones.

The Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone is available online at: http://on.doi.gov/1iJOtNb. 

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"Adding staff to monitor and respond to activities that threaten resource values..."   :P

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The BLM manages more than 245 million acres of public land, the most of any Federal agency. This land, known as the National System of Public Lands, is primarily located in 12 Western states, including Alaska.

The BLM also administers 700 million acres of sub-surface mineral estate throughout the nation.

The BLM's mission is to manage and conserve the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations under our mandate of multiple-use and sustained yield.

In Fiscal Year 2013, the BLM generated $4.7 billion in receipts from public lands.
--BLM--



And a few pics for posterity.

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The calvary arrives.   ;D

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 13, 2014, 10:37:32 PM
This is how it really went down,
Here is the video that shows it As It Happened.


QuoteThe media's version of the end of the Bundy Ranch siege is that the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) simply "left" the ranch and "returned" the cattle out of the goodness of their hearts. CBS News even outrageously reported that the BLM "released the cattle to help restore order and avoid violence"! This despite widely-seen video of BLM thugs tasing Bundy's son and shoving a pregnant woman to the ground. And the protesters never threatened violence in any way during the nearly one-week siege.

The real story was that the BLM refused to give back the cattle, and would not leave the property or disarm, to which they had agreed. The result was an epic standoff that reporter David Knight described as being like "something out of a movie."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD61YFxUga4

http://youtu.be/a_XqdQjTflc
Supporters of Bundy advanced on a position held by BLM agents despite threats that they would be shot at, eventually forcing BLM feds to release 100 cattle that had been stolen from Bundy as part of a land grab dispute that threatened to escalate ...
http://toprightnews.com/?p=2479

Raw Video without Narrative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD61YFxUga4

http://youtu.be/a_XqdQjTflc
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Gigas on April 13, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on April 13, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
From:  http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2014/04/dhs-insider-bundy-ranch-standoff-not.html

It was easy to run the BLM off




That's right, way to easy. Like the 1800s when Indians fought the government taking their land and won some battles but ultimately lost it all, so will bundy and everyone supporting him.

Now the ex military contract killers will deploy and they have no mercy shooting anyone cause that's what they were trained to do.

We seen how they perform at ruby ridge killing a non threatening mother holding her baby inside the home.

We seen how they deployed on Waco escalating into a killing spree. Most people don't know, along with those who don't want to know, that while cameras were out front watching, they had two armored vehicle move in from the back and with those two armored vehicles were two or three killers firing machine guns into the rear of the compound.

They machine gunned people who tried to run after they set fire to the place. All out of view of the media and cameras out front.

So we see three proven actions on the part of the government where people who were here first and citizens thinking they have rights, were shown they are expendable for the right of the government to kill them for what they have, think or do.

We should see a military style mobilization and as the story tells, well trained ex military killers showing up to finish the job. Its a good bet apache and blackhawks will be flying around with zappers hanging out the doors.

If not, then next skirmish
The citizen is the enemy and its war we face.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2014, 05:43:14 AM
Quote from: Gigas on April 13, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
If not, then next skirmish
The citizen is the enemy and its war we face.

Phase Two...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jer1YidkfPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jer1YidkfPY
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Lunica on April 14, 2014, 12:51:49 PM
Damn What a story...  :o

(we dont see such in the Netherlands  :) )

Are we talking about 200 (more, less?) armed protestors at the moment willing to fire if needed? Are the more to come? That would become very big... :o 

Difficult for me to judge or interpret this is or will be the case.







Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 14, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
Everyone is making a big deal out of the protesters having caused a retreat of the armed BLM people.
Don't kid yourself, if anyone would fire on those BLMers, it wouldn't be pretty. These are trained pros that are in the business of killing.
Joe Blow patriot guy doesn't stand a chance....
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Lunica on April 14, 2014, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on April 14, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
Everyone is making a big deal out of the protesters having caused a retreat of the armed BLM people.
Don't kid yourself, if anyone would fire on those BLMers, it wouldn't be pretty. These are trained pros that are in the business of killing.
Joe Blow patriot guy doesn't stand a chance....

Thats what I mean. It will be a slaughter...
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: micjer on April 14, 2014, 01:48:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOctfH_NA0
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on April 14, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
PHASE 1B

Get everyone in a certain area to show their feelings
Photograph everyone and all cars
ID everyone
Run back ground checks on them, their family and friends
Tap all their phones and internet
Put them or a terror list
Add names to no fly lists
Pulled over by police for the least infraction
Income tax audits from hell
Black balled from any goverment jobs or contracts for life
Infecting cattle with Mad Cow
And this list goes on and on.

I hope none of that will happen and all will drop it.
If the gov wants something they will just take him to court.
No bullets just lawyers.....

This is the power they have. Without any problem.
I hope the supporters and Bundy are ready for what can come their way in the future.

And why all the military checking in all over town, is there a convention?
Humm................
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on April 14, 2014, 04:48:00 PM
Sarge has a point, Deuem has a point also.
They can & will make your life hell just for being there, but the more peeps turn up it's going to overload an already overworked NSA :P
At that point i guess bullets are cheaper ???
The gubmint sure is pouring a lot of money into this, mercenaries are not cheap 8)
If some of those vets brought along a SAM missile it might even things up a bit ::)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 14, 2014, 05:24:26 PM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on April 14, 2014, 04:48:00 PM

At that point i guess bullets are cheaper ???

True, and they have plenty of them.

Yes, good points by Sarge, Deuem, Micjer, Lunica...

The final logic in the BLM pullot maybe that Dirty Harry Reid probably
didn't want his name attached to one of the biggest civilian massacres
in U.S. history right before the elections this fall.

;)


Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: The Seeker on April 14, 2014, 06:46:20 PM
This is not good in any way shape or form; I do have a very uneasy feeling about what comes next in this drama...

even if Mr. Bundy rounds up all his cattle and corrals them on his ranch I still feel that this is far from being over and I do sincerely hope that it does not roller coaster into a nightmare...

it does not bode well at all...


seeker
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: WarToad on April 14, 2014, 06:57:45 PM
Yea, I think the Gov will at the least move aggressively forward with sueing him and crushing him finacially for illegal public land use without paperwork or paying the fee to the appropriate entity.  Mr. Bundy hasn't won by a longshot here and legally he's in the wrong.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on April 14, 2014, 09:47:30 PM
I hope folks are watching how blatant fox news has twisted this story into a lie.
I even mentioned to friends about how fox news are the enemy a while back.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 14, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
Looks like Green is the new Red..

BioDiversity is just a fancy term for "communist conformity".
While it may be legal, it is not respectable.

Underneath Senator Harry Reid's Clean-Energy Dirt: Career politician directly linked to over $3 billion in green energy stimulus loans

http://greencorruption.blogspot.com/2013/11/underneath-senator-harry-reids-clean.html

3 billion what a complete waste. And that is just the frosting
on Harry's tasteless dirt cake. He is notoriously corrupt. 

Based on that performance, I'd say ole Cliven Bundys million
in fees is small change. At least he produces something
that people can sink thier teeth into.

;D


So...where's the beef?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Hereford_bull_large.jpg)






Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2014, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: robomont on April 14, 2014, 09:47:30 PM
I hope folks are watching how blatant fox news has twisted this story into a lie.
I even mentioned to friends about how fox news are the enemy a while back.

I only watch Fox news for comedy :P

I use Channel 8 George Knapp :D
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2014, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: WarToad on April 14, 2014, 06:57:45 PMMr. Bundy hasn't won by a longshot here

True but now he is international news :D

Quoteand legally he's in the wrong.

Actually no he isn't. He is grandfathered in under the laws of the land BEFORE the BLM ever existed. That is why Arizona and Texas are watching this so closely as they still have lots of free range cattle. Bundy was the last one in Nevada... the rest all signed away their rights... Bundy never did though he was told those rights would not be transferable to his sons after his death  But he is only 62... so this can go on for a while yet :D

Too bad John took ill... he could have joined the fight over his mine. Harry Reid was directly involved in that one too as the mine claim papers were filed late by his office  AFTER John had been told everything was in order
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: lillyphant on April 14, 2014, 10:28:12 PM
I know this goes way deeper than free range cows........

Yet,  after seeing so many slaughterhouses and their tactics this alone makes me want to step up to this issue.

It isn't over,  and that "place in me" seems to know that the will of the flow of money will be heeded,  one way or another...........

And I feel a bit sick by it.

Just a kudo's for all at PRC.............this has been the most informative thread on the internet on this issue.

Glad to be able to have a look at the work you do to inform us~

DL
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 14, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: burntheships on April 14, 2014, 05:24:26 PM

The final logic in the BLM pullot maybe that Dirty Harry Reid probably
didn't want his name attached to one of the biggest civilian massacres
in U.S. history right before the elections this fall.


Well he is now  and China pulled out of the deal it looks like so maybe some good will come of it

He has been in office so long I think he thinks he owns Nevada

At the beginning he was great  a for the people kind of guy... but now even Johns wife wants him gone.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Ellirium113 on April 14, 2014, 10:49:56 PM
Quote from: WarToad on April 14, 2014, 06:57:45 PM
Yea, I think the Gov will at the least move aggressively forward with sueing him and crushing him finacially for illegal public land use without paperwork or paying the fee to the appropriate entity.  Mr. Bundy hasn't won by a longshot here and legally he's in the wrong.

Right on que! in 5...4...3...2...and:

Sen. Harry Reid: Bundy Dispute 'Not Over'

Quote"We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it's not over"

Mikael Thalen
Prison Planet.com
April 14, 2014

After remaining silent for days, Nevada Sen. Harry Reid made comments regarding the ongoing dispute between the Bureau of Land Management and rancher Cliven Bundy today, accusing the Bundy family of violating the law.



"Well, it's not over. We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it's not over," Reid told News 4.

Despite telling the Bundy family that a deal had been reached Saturday after federal agents were forced to retreat, the BLM reversed its promise Monday and told reporters that they planned to go after Bundy "administratively and judicially."

"The door isn't closed. We'll figure out how to move forward with this," BLM spokesman Craig Leff said. "The BLM and National Park Service did not cut any deal and negotiate anything, there was no deal we made."


http://www.prisonplanet.com/sen-harry-reid-bundy-dispute-not-over.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/sen-harry-reid-bundy-dispute-not-over.html)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 15, 2014, 12:09:10 AM
This is coming from Ben Swann and a radio interview today
with Sherrif Mack....its about 10 minutes in Video form.

Sources Inside The BLM and
Las Vegas Metro Say Feds Are Planning A Raid On Bundy Home

QuoteDespite major media reports that the Nevada Bureau of Land Management is retreating, the remaining activity that still surrounds the ranch illustrates a different scenario.

Not only is the BLM not actually backing off of Cliven Bundy, Sheriff Richard Mack of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association has revealed stunning information: on Ben Swann's radio program, Mack said that he has received intelligence from multiple, credible sources inside the BLM and the Las Vegas Metro that there is "no question" that the federal government is planning a raid on the Bundy home and the homes of their children who live on the property.

According to Mack, the so-called retreat was nothing more than theatrics...

http://benswann.com/exclusive-sources-inside-the-blm-and-las-vegas-metro-say-feds-are-planning-a-raid-on-bundy-home/


Video at the link, with Mack on the radio with Swann,
can not embed it is not Youtube.

Swann had an interview scheduled with Cliven Bundy today,
now it shows cancelled.

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2014, 12:14:56 AM

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/we-will-shoot.jpg)


"I was just told by commissioner Collins of Clark County NV that all of us folks from Utah are a bunch of "inbred bastards" and if we are coming to Clark Cointy NV to support Cliven Bundy we all "better have funeral plans". We should "turn our asses around on mind our own f-ing business".

The comments were revealed by Darin Bushman, a Piute County, Utah, commissioner after he spoke with Collins about Utah ranchers and his colleagues on the County Commission complaining about tactics used by Bureau of Land Management agents during their seizure of Bundy's cattle in southern Nevada.



(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/110414collins.jpg)

What a Bozo, and he should be court-martialed for his statements.
source (http://www.infowars.com/county-commissioner-says-bundy-supporters-better-have-funeral-plans/)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqQiSp0VmU

Range War 2014 Cliven D Bundy - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqQiSp0VmU)

April 3, 2014

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/cliven_and_carol_bundy.jpg)
Cliven 'n Carol Bundy (https://www.youtube.com/user/jaredwalther56)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on April 15, 2014, 12:44:03 AM
I went down the list of who has a dog in this fight and I don't understand what the police have in this.the sheriffs office I understand but not police cars I've seen in vids.
I also don't understand why the state troopers aren't there backing Bundy.
From a legal standpoint the troopers have the biggest investment to lose.state property rights for the public at large.

There will be a massive backlash from this whole issue.blm is in a lose lose situation.
The public will quit paying management fees as a group.
If they attack Bundy to set an example.then its full on civil war.the crowd in Arizona of supporters is but a spec compared to the legions setting on the sidelines waiting for the call to help the liberty cause.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 15, 2014, 12:45:27 AM
EDIT

Someone put up the full video of Swann interview with Mack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0md6f0oF4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0md6f0oF4

This is a partial video of the Ben Swann interview with Sherrif Mack,
uploaded to YouTube.

Sources Inside The BLM and
Las Vegas Metro Say Feds Are Planning A Raid On Bundy Home


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_HhFE1nEi4:


(http://video-static.clipsyndicate.com/zStorage/clipsyndicate/229/2014/04/14/19/16/gnawgarlaruhqhptsguv.jpg)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2014, 01:28:29 AM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Bundy-Ranch-Sign-640.jpg)


Greetings Citizens of the World:

This is an extremely well-written analysis (as expected on breitbart.com) and offers up empiricle evidence as 'proof' why Bundy may be considered to be out-of-line, to say the least.

We are definitely on CB's side against an over-reaching, heavy-handed Federal Government.


The Saga of Bundy Ranch--Federal Power, Rule of Law and Averting Potential Bloodshed (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/12/The-Saga-of-Bundy-Ranch)

by LOGAN CHURCHWELL AND BRANDON DARBY
12 April 2014

BUNKERVILLE, NEVADA—The Bundy Ranch roundup has understandably stirred thin-stretched emotions as the federal government seizes cattle belonging to the Bundy family.

The family settled in the late 1800's and has ranched in the area since.

The federal government allowed Nevada ranchers to graze their cattle on federal tracts of land adjacent to their private properties for generations.

The federal government later created the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to administer and "protect" the vast swaths of federal land—including the land the Bundy family's livelihood was—and still is—dependent upon.

The BLM began restricting ranchers' usage of federal lands to protect various species, and the BLM decided to restrict the Bundy family's usage of the federal land they historically grazed.

The federal government told the Bundy family that a tortoise existed on the land and therefore the land's usage for cattle would have to decrease—thus creating a scenario where the Bundy family could make fewer resources. A 20-year legal battle ensued.

There exist a number of elements to the story that inject shades of grey into the dominant media narrative. Perhaps hundreds of Bundy supporters have already shown up to the ranch area to "protect" the family and their land—which is federal land—but federal land such usage was promised to the family in the government's efforts to get people to settle the West after Mexico ceded the land to the U.S. Court documents—discussed later in this article—reveal that the Bundy family decided at some point that the federal government was illegitimate and that they no longer had to give heed to the federal courts.

The Bundy family patriarch has openly stated his willingness to use force against federal agents if they take his cattle off of the federal lands; the federal agents stand ready to use force against the family or their supporters if they interfere with the cattle removal.

Both sides are armed, both sides are frustrated, and the rhetoric and hyperbole surrounding the entire matter has left many onlookers from around the world confused as to what is actually happening.

In the immediate aftermath of the infamous cattle roundup, Cliven Bundy granted a number of high profile media interviews continuing to deny—to the point of absolutely ignoring family history—what the federal courts have twice told him.

"I believe this is a sovereign state of Nevada,"
Bundy recently told a radio reporter.
"...I abide by all of Nevada state laws.
But,
I don't recognize the United States Government as even existing."
more at breitbart.com (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/12/The-Saga-of-Bundy-Ranch)



A comment from a fellow patriotic American that is actually involved enough to check facts. Thank you, ijohnc1.

ijohnc1 • 6 hours ago
It is obvious this reporter has few facts on the reality of ownership for this tract of land.

This parcel is deeded to the county as school trust land, occupancy was the Bundy family long before the BLM was hatched out by congress, payments for grazing came along and the Bundy's paid the county.

Harry Reid came along with a plan to build along with the Chinese a solar field, then when the Bundy's didn't move along, it came time for a way to get them off the land.

Next came the Desert Tortoise as a tool to use as a means for dirty Harry to get the solar project started.

Meanwhile, too many Tortoises at the government-created habit for tortoises are over running their food supply, that they have to euthanize some of them to keep a balance vs. food supply.

Now there goes the endangered species theory, what will be next is they will have to rethink how to kill off a Bundy or two, as the minute man militia showed up to slow the process down, maybe not today but soon as dirty harry needs the money.

"Do not trust your government"...Thomas Jefferson


Speaking of checking facts:

The facts behind the Bundy ranch dispute - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/the-facts-behind-the-bundy-ranch-dispute)

Still checking that BLM figure of $1.1 million in back fees over 20 years.

QuoteThe dispute between Bundy and federal land managers began in 1993 when he stopped paying fees of about $1.35 per cow-calf pair to graze public lands that are also home to imperiled animals such as the Mojave Desert tortoise. The government also claims Bundy has ignored cancellation of his grazing leases and defied federal court orders to remove his cattle.


Let's do the math.   :P

$1.1 million divided by 20 = $55,000/ year
at $1.35 per cow-calf pair; that would equal
40,740 bovines per year on the 'rights' land -
yet Bundy runs a herd of less than a thousand.


:P
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2014, 02:48:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw9GAh658_k

Bundy Ranch: Fed Retreat was Psyop Next Wave Soon - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw9GAh658_k)

Published on Apr 13, 2014

URGENT: New developments in the Bundy Ranch standoff. DHS insider reveals the Federal retreat was complete Psyop to study opposition to crush rebellion in next assault.

Source: Canadian Free Press

All of our lives are going to change in a drastic way, if this is true... From Doug Hagmann

At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved.

It is not.

It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public.

This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:

1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the "patriot resistance.

Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but "identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. "Mission accomplished."

2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;

3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;

4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.

This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response.

They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.

Despite this, the coverage by the alternative media began to create a public relations problem that was not easily managed.

Note the lack of acknowledgment by the White House regarding this event. They are intentionally framing it as a state issue, despite the fact that all federal response has been and continues to be from the White House.

There is a reason for this -- a reason that has not been identified in any of the public reports to date.

I will explain in further detail in a follow-up report on Sunday, after this source attends [redacted] to obtain more specific information about future federal operations.

Regardless, according to this source, the government will take back 'their land' as they must to fulfill international obligations.

It was never about grazing rights or anything other than (1) "securing clear title" to the land, and (2) further demonizing any patriotic resistance. It is my understanding, based on the information from this source, that it is a critical task to create a situation that will also advance their agenda of gun control and confiscation.

A more detailed report will follow on Sunday, 13 April 2014, with additional and much more specific information about their inside plans and future operations.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 15, 2014, 05:51:53 AM
Absolutely The Best Stuff Here
In This Interview



"
This interview was recorded from the Bundy Ranch late this afternoon.

Stewart Rhodes is the founder of Oath Keepers.

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders  who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." That oath, mandated by Article VI of the Constitution itself, is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and Oath Keepers
"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLMAEcjIBxw

The voices of reason, so very refreshing!
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: WarToad on April 15, 2014, 12:53:16 PM
Quote from: zorgon on April 14, 2014, 10:25:59 PM
Actually no he isn't. He is grandfathered in under the laws of the land BEFORE the BLM ever existed.

This is incorrect.  That's what Bundy claims, but there is no documentation of of any inherited grazing rights or grandfathered federal land use rights held by the Bundy family or Bundy's ancestors.  This statement is him grasping at anything he thinks might help him not pay that $1 million dollars in back fees he owes.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: WarToad on April 15, 2014, 12:53:16 PM
This is incorrect.  That's what Bundy claims, but there is no documentation of of any inherited grazing rights or grandfathered federal land use rights held by the Bundy family or Bundy's ancestors.  This statement is him grasping at anything he thinks might help him not pay that $1 million dollars in back fees he owes.

Greetings esteemed Member War Toad:

Good to see you in the trenches.

Quote...$1 million dollars in back fees he owes.

However, considering the math we did on that $1.1 million, we find it incomprehensible that only range fees added up to this amount.

Perhaps you have some data that you might be so good as to share to shed some light on this contentious subject?   :P

Thanking you in advance,

With great respect
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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: WarToad on April 15, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
No, the back fees of 1.0 mil are just from the articles we've been combing through.  No doubt it's the actual grazing fees as well as late penalty fees.  But I haven't seen an actual breakdown.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 15, 2014, 03:29:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ

Bundy Ranch - What You're Not Being Told - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ)

Published on Apr 14, 2014

There are some very powerful people who have done their best to cover up what really happened at the Bundy ranch in Clark County Nevada. Fortunately they failed.

In this we're going to present you with evidence of blatant corruption and criminal activities that anyone, including law enforcement, can easily verify.

But before we go into the details, it's important to acknowledge here, that the political left and the political right are watching this crisis through very different eyes.

You on the left saw this old rancher defying the Federal government over cattle grazing fees, with right wing pundits pleading his case, and armed militia moving in to intervene... it probably gave you the impression of Tea Party temper tantrum... with guns.

Given some of the personalities who were involved in the media circus surrounding this, that impression is perfectly understandable, but underneath the appearances there is something here that all Americans need to see, whether they consider themselves conservative, liberal or none of the above.

All I ask is that you suspend your preconceived notions of what this crisis was about, for five minutes.

First let's eliminate some of the disinformation, speculation and conspiracy theories.

Here's a story that a lot of people were spreading around without fact checking. It got 47,000 shares on Facebook alone. The author claims that the siege of the Bundy ranch was about was really about fracking leases.

That's a provocative narrative, one that I actually found very interesting. But just because something is plausible doesn't mean it's true.

For evidence, the article links out to this page on the shalereporter.com (http://www.shalereporter.com/environment/article_9a671938-66a8-11e2-9a94-0019bb30f31a.html), which does indeed talk about Bureau of Land Management (aka BLM) leasing out land in Nevada for Fracking.

Trouble is, the author and 47,000 other people overlooked the blatantly obvious fact that the land in question is in north eastern Nevada. Clark county isn't in North Eastern Nevada.

That's not a minor detail. Please, pretty please with a cherry on top, fact check before you spread information people.

Always fact check....more (http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 15, 2014, 06:09:54 PM
Quote from: WarToad on April 15, 2014, 12:53:16 PM
This is incorrect.  That's what Bundy claims, but there is no documentation of of any inherited grazing rights or grandfathered federal land use rights held by the Bundy family or Bundy's ancestors.  This statement is him grasping at anything he thinks might help him not pay that $1 million dollars in back fees he owes.

First of all Nevada is one of the few tates where VERBAL contracts are still legally binding...

However in this case it is WATER RIGHTS you need to look at. Bundy DOES have the water rights in that area and with the water rights came grazing rights. This was all well before the BLM even existed, so to chek records you would need to go back many years in the archives bearing in mind that most of those deals were verbal agreements.



So yes along came the BLM and changed the rules... drove off all the other ranchers into compliance with the result that there is no effective cattle ranching left in Nevada and hence our beef has to come from out of state.

This is not such a simple case and it really is more about the land grab as it is prime real estate. A 200,000 acre preserve for a handfull of desert tortoises when there are hundreds of thousands of square mile of Nevada desert where no one treads?  Really?

John at his mine also had water rights... Since he was not herding cattle his rights were limited to sinking a well and using no more than 10,000 gallons a year. There was a meter on the well pump.

The ONLY reason John lost the rights to mine on that land was because Harry Reid's office deliberately mis handled the paperwork that was required to be filed.  And despite John bending over backwards to keep all the papers in order, they kept adding more requirements and the last one was filed ONE DAY late by that office... and that was that... you now have 8 months to vacate and restore the land to its natural state or lose your $200K deposit

John had exemplary service on that mone property with awards for best operation. He routinely place trash cans and emptied them for the hunters in the area and he and his crew kept the invading weeds under control in the watering holes. 

Until that day of the 'snafu' in filing, his dealings with BLM rangers was on a very friendly basis. I met several of them and they showed me historical sites in the area that were hidden...

So why now suddenly?  The Tortoise?  uh huh  wanna buy some swamp land in Florida?

"...  when they came for me.... there was no one left to stand up"

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 15, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
There are several updates I will be posting;
in the mean time I highly recommend watching
this video footage taken in a real Agenda 21
meeting.

Pay close attention to the people waking up
as the questions are asked, and how the
"officials" react, then try to shut people
down when it finally dawns on them
this is real, and they could lose their home,
their neighborhood to Agenda 21. If this does
not wake you up, not much left to come will.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRgWebHXwvg

http://youtu.be/nRgWebHXwvg

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/1/post/2014/03/our-fight-against-plan-bay-area-step-up-now.html

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/iclei-when-they-say-local-they-mean-it.html

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: micjer on April 15, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
There needs to be more states like Alabama.  They passed a resolution, and Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 16, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: micjer on April 15, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
There needs to be more states like Alabama.  They passed a resolution, and Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21.

That is good to know, kudos to them!
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: The Seeker on April 16, 2014, 01:04:24 AM
Quote from: micjer on April 15, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
There needs to be more states like Alabama.  They passed a resolution, and Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21.
I agree; but until the people pester, badger, and relentlessly pursue their local elected officials into seeing that this is what the people want...

spread the word: screw agenda 21...


seeker
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 16, 2014, 05:24:04 AM
Sheriff Richard Mack, CSPOA at Cliven Bundy Press Conference 4/14/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPsPjkobJ88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPsPjkobJ88
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on April 16, 2014, 09:48:46 AM
There has been a lot of talk of water rights and a slight mention of 200,000 acres. Even John had water rights. Does Bundy own all 200,000 acre water rights? or just a small portion of them? How was this divided up. I guess the other ranchers used the same location and had water rights also. This is only a big issue if his rights are for the entire lot. For all I know he might only own 1 acre. Z, got any ideas?
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2014, 04:40:31 PM

Boots on the Ground

0715 - 16 April 2014


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(photo courtesy James Yeager)

Everything is calm on the Bundy Farm. No raids, no drone strikes, no mustard gas....
just a sunrise on a Nevada farm that has been here since 1867.



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I am standing in the Bundy's front yard. Everything is calm.

We are providing inner security. If there are any TACTICAL RESPONSE ALUMNI (http://www.tacticalresponse.com) that want to help with personal security of the family get in touch with me.



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Donated by TheTacticalMedic.com


SUPPORT   THOSE   PATRIOTS!



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Jim Fuller (https://www.facebook.com/JimFuller.me), HOSS USMC (http://thehossusmc.com/) and James Yeager (http://www.tacticalresponse.com)

From Scott Guthrie - we thought the very same thing!  :P

WOW... Fuller, Hoss, and Yeager at the Bundy Ranch and NO DRONE STRIKE!!!   

Someone fell asleep on the job!



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The Bundy's just finished Hannity.


In the beginning...
The show of support to our trip to the Bundy Ranch in Nevada has been overwhelming. People that cannot go are asking to make donations.

We will humbly accept them.

If folks want to help fund the trip they can call 731-676-2041 and tell Marilyn they want to donate. We leave Monday and arrive Tuesday. We plan on being there at least a week. My hope is that justice will prevail peaceably.

Please use this number ONLY if you want to connect with us at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada. 702-279-1463 We arrive Tuesday afternoon. Use texting as much as possible.

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2014, 07:32:48 PM

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The above Tweet brought 30 guests in 7 minutes...never checked after that.   :o



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAwALTdrMZ8

The Truth About the BLM - Bundy Ranch Dispute Explained - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAwALTdrMZ8)



Published on Apr 12, 2014

Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 - U.S. Code: Title 43 - PUBLIC LANDS (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/43)

BLM Energy Page (http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/energy.html)?

IM 2011-181, Involvement of Grazing Permittee/Lessee with Solar and Wind Energy Right-of-Way Application Process (http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2011/IM_2011-181.html)
[...]

Potential mitigation and compensation strategies

a.  Regulation 43 CFR 4120.3-6(c) (2005) provides that if a grazing permittee/lessee has placed or constructed authorized permanent range improvements on lands within a permit/lease subsequently cancelled for another public purpose, the permittee/lessee is entitled to receive reasonable compensation from the United States for the adjusted value of his/her interest in such improvements (refer to H-4120-1.36C). The ROW applicant and permittee/lessee should be strongly encouraged to enter into an agreement that addresses compensation for range improvements. If such an agreement is reached to the satisfaction of the parties, the permittee/lessee must file the agreement in writing with the BLM AO.[...]

In the event the applicant and permittee/lessee do not come to an agreement on compensation for such authorized permanent range improvements and the permit/lease is subsequently cancelled for the solar or wind energy project, the permittee/lessee is entitled to receive, from the United States, reasonable compensation for the adjusted value of his/her interest in such improvements. The adjusted value is to be determined by the AO. Compensation (by the BLM) must not exceed the fair market value of the terminated portion of the permittee's/lessee's interest in such improvements (see 43 CFR 4120.3-6(c) (2005)).
 
b.  Where a range improvement is authorized by a range improvement permit, the livestock operator may elect to salvage the materials and perform rehabilitation measures rather than be compensated for the adjusted value (see 43 CFR 4120.3-6(c) (2005)). Salvage and rehabilitation measures may trigger the need for a NEPA analysis of the impacts of those measures, and must be coordinated with, and approved by, the BLM prior to any action taking place.
 
c.  Discussion of mitigation and compensation strategies may address loss of forage, water rights owned by the permittee/lessee, access for management purposes, or other items, as necessary, to provide for expeditious processing of the ROW application for solar or wind development.

The ROW applicant and the permittee/lessee should be strongly encouraged to enter into an agreement that addresses mitigation and compensation strategies to be submitted concurrent with the POD, but the BLM will not directly participate in these discussions. The United States is not responsible for any mitigation or compensation agreed upon by the parties in these agreements. [...]



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BREAKING: SIEGE Of BUNDY RANCH Was CONTROLLED By OBAMA (http://www.secretsofthefed.com/breaking-siege-bundy-ranch-controlled-obama/)

Although many are unaware, the government has been scooping up land at an unprecedented rate.  Of course, they will tell you something along the lines of preservation, whether land or species, need to be ensured and since we irresponsible citizens just can't guarantee any such result, the government takes it upon themselves to do so.


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If this was in fact the case however, then why has the government felt the need to take on so many instances that it justifies obtaining as much as 85% percent of certain states?  Specifically in Nevada, back in 2008, the government owned 84.48% of the state claiming it to be "public land."


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In the specific area in which Bundy was allowing his cattle to graze, documentation has been brought into the light showing that the government's interest in such land, may not be so pure.  Even more eerily, since being put forward, the government has since taken down such documentation, and evacuated the area in which Bundy and his supporters occupied.


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Dug up by Infowars, the government is set to allow China the use of American land in order to drill for oil and use in other energy productive ways. Back in 2011, the government set forward a plan in which China would be allowed to purchase up to 600,000 acres worth of oil and drilling fields in the precise location in which Bundy is allowing his cattle to roam free.

As Obama has already fought to have drilling denied in these areas, it's hard to understand why he is so eager to have another country come in here and take out resources.

In short, he is whoring our country, but what do you expect from a leader who does not respect the county in which he was elected.

Trying to weasel his way around the public spotlight, it appears as though he was dragged right in as federal agencies tried ever so hard to argue why Bundy's cows had to leave.

Some reports mentioned that they were endangering tortoises, as we've all heard.

The odd thing about this is that the report magically came about as the government was pressing its hardest to get Bundy to vacate the area.

Surprising, huh?



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"I'm not against the rule of law, but I am against the abuse of power.'
Mark Levin/rightscoop.com


Around seven minutes in:
"The tortoise is not threatened anymore."


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IN-DEPTH: Mark Levin gives his take on the dispute between Cliven Bundy and the federal government » The Right Scoop - (http://therightscoop.com/in-depth-mark-levin-gives-his-take-on-the-dispute-between-cliven-bundy-and-the-federal-government/)

Mark Levin lays out the most thoughtful and in-depth analysis I've heard yet on the dispute between Cliven Bundy and the federal government. In short, Levin calls it an abuse of power and believes the BLM should stop referring to the land as a conservation area and allow Bundy's cattle to continue grazing on the land just as it has for the last 100 years or so.


31 March 2014

Lawsuit Launched Over BLM's Failure to Report Threats to Desert Tortoise, Other Imperiled Species in California Deserts (http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2014/desert-tortoise-03-31-2014.html)

San Francisco— Environmental groups filed a notice of intent to sue the U.S. Bureau of Land Management today for failing for seven years to report impacts to the desert tortoise and similarly threatened and endangered species from off-road vehicles, cattle grazing and other activities in California's deserts.

The Center for Biological Diversity, Sierra Club, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility and Desert Survivors recently learned that the BLM has failed to submit annual reports to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for years despite legal obligations to do so under the Endangered Species Act — a failure that puts imperiled species at risk.

"The Bureau of Land Management has shrugged off its duty to report impacts of grazing and off-road vehicle use on protected species on our public lands," said Lisa Belenky, a senior attorney at the Center for Biological Diversity.

"BLM says it's committed to conserving species and habitats in California deserts — yet it has failed to comply with even the most basic requirements for management of desert tortoises and other rare and vulnerable wildlife."
[...]

lawsuit (http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/energy/dirty_energy_development/oil_and_gas/pdfs/California_Oil_and_Gas_Complaint_12-08-2011.pdf)


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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2014, 07:56:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z6u8Tt5lV8

Federal Thieves Forcefully Strip Rancher of Property - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z6u8Tt5lV8)

Published on Apr 11, 2014
Infowars reporter David Knight talks to rancher Richard Jensen in Nevada that was threatened by the BLM and eventually forced to sell property that had been in his family for generations.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 16, 2014, 08:23:32 PM

LIVE !
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoyNio8n02A

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 16, 2014, 08:47:58 PM
Feds Accused Of Leaving Trail
Of Wreckage After Nevada Ranch Standoff


QuoteOn a Friday night conference call, BLM officials told reporters that "illegal structures" on Bundy's ranch -- water tanks, water lines and corrals -- had to be removed to "restore" the land to its natural state and prevent the rancher from restarting his illegal cattle operation.

However, the court order used to justify the operation appears only to give the agency the authority to "seize and impound" Bundy's cattle.

"Nowhere in the court order that I saw does it say that they can destroy infrastructure, destroy corrals, tanks ... desert environment, shoot cattle," Houston said.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/16/feds-accused-leaving-trail-wreckage-after-nevada-ranch-standoff/

Feds Dug Grave For
Illegally Killed Cattle


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MSquXLjv-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MSquXLjv-M
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: WarToad on April 16, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-long-fight-between-cliven-bundy-and-the-federal-government/

Quote
Everything you need to know about the long fight between Cliven Bundy and the federal government

The case of cattle rancher Cliven Bundy burst into the national news cycle over the past week, captivating conservative media outlets with its protagonist, a firm believer of states' right with an armed group of supporters backing him. The stand-off between Nevada rancher and federal government officials trying to push cattle off of protected federal land has paused for now, but officials plan to renew their efforts soon.

This most-recent skirmish is only the latest in a decades-long fight between the federal government and Cliven Bundy, however.  Here's a timeline that proves just how complicated this case is — as well as the power that the media still retains to elevate a local political issue into a national one.

1989: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service lists the desert tortoise as an endangered species. A year later, its designation was changed to "threatened."

March 1993: The Washington Post publishes a story about the federal government's efforts to protect the desert tortoise in Nevada. Near Las Vegas, the Bureau of Land Management designated hundreds of thousands of acres of federal land for strict conservation efforts. "Among the conservation measures required," according to the Post's coverage, "are the elimination of livestock grazing and strict limits on off-road vehicle use in the protected tortoise habitat. Two weeks ago, the managers of the plan completed the task of purchasing grazing privileges from cattle ranchers who formerly used BLM land."

Many people were not impressed by the new conservation plan. "Cliven Bundy, whose family homesteaded his ranch in 1877 and who accuses the government of a 'land grab,' are digging in for a fight and say they will not willingly sell their grazing privileges to create another preserve." People who use the desert to prospect for minerals and to race motorcycles and jeeps also feel shortchanged. "'It was shoved down our throat,' said Mark Trinko, who represents off-road vehicle users on the committee that oversees the plan."

Bundy has repeatedly been fined for grazing his cattle on the protected land, fines he has not paid since 1993. The Bureau of Land Management, which oversees about 800 grazing areas in Nevada, responded by revoking his permit. Bundy has not applied for a new one.

April 1995: The fight between the Bureau of Land Management and the ranchers who want to use the federal land without fees or oversight is growing more tense, according to a story published in USA Today.

Thursday evening, a small bomb went off in the U.S. Forest Service office in Carson City, Nev.

Though no one has taken responsibility -- and no one was injured -- it has sent chills through government agencies involved in Western land management.

"If it was sent as a message," says Forest Service spokeswoman Erin O'Connor, "we got it."

Ultimately the issue will be settled by the courts, but ranchers who say they can't afford to raise livestock without greater access to public land are taking matters into their own hands -- setting up what some officials fear is an inevitable and dangerous confrontation.

The situation is becoming so tense that federal workers now travel mostly in pairs and are in constant radio contact with district offices.

"I'm concerned about the safety of my employees," says Jim Nelson, Forest Service district manager for Nevada. "They can't go to church in these communities without having someone say something. Their kids are harassed in school. Stores and restaurants are not serving them."

Nelson, who oversees 7 million acres in Nevada, says his agency is just doing its job, which is to ensure that land remains healthy and viable for ranchers and any others who wish to use it.

That goal, he says, is hindered by unattended, free-ranging cows that degrade the state's precious springs and stream banks.

The battle is being called Sagebrush II, a sequel to a 1970s movement that sought a state takeover of federal public lands. Today, many ranchers, miners and loggers argue the federal government never had a legitimate claim to the land.

The reason that things were ramping up? Counties were starting to challenge federal ownership of land. In 1991, Catron County in New Mexico passed an ordinance that claimed state ownership and local management of public land in the state. Thirty five counties followed suit. Nye County, Nevada, became the first to act on its legislated threat. The county commissioner bulldozed his way down a closed national forest road. Forest rangers soon followed, who the county commissioner threatened to arrest if they interfered.

At this point, Cliven Bundy had racked up $31,000 in fees for grazing on federal land without a permit. Helicopters often hover over his herd, counting up the cows so he can be fined appropriately. "They've taken their authority and abused it," Bundy said. "I'm not being regulated to death anymore."

Bundy's neighbors were also angry.

"The federal government just wants control of us. But I'm not going to be controlled," Keith Nay says.

But those seeking greater access to federal land deny they are looking for an old-West shoot-out.

"Do you want to see my weapons?" asks Norm Tom, a Paiute Indian and Nay's son-in-law, who runs about 100 cows on range adjoining Bundy's. He pulls out two copies of the Constitution, one pocket-sized, one full sized.

March 18, 1996: The federal government, which owns 87 percent of the land in Nevada,  is still worried about potential violence if they try to remove illegally grazing cattle from protected land. Two more pipebombs had exploded in Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management offices in the past two years. The Justice Department has 12 lawsuits pending against Nevada cattle ranchers. A federal court in the state struck down the Nye County ordinance that caused trouble the year before. Not that ranchers took that as reason to stand down, however. One local resident told USA Today,"A single district court decision in one district doesn't settle it. It's just a single day in the year of a revolutionary war. We're going to continue on with the fight." Bundy is also continuing to graze on federal lands. "I'm still saying the state of Nevada owns that land, and the federal government has been an encroacher. I'm not moving my cattle. We have ... rights."

Bundy states that his rights derive from the fact his Mormon ancestors were using the land far before the federal government claimed authority over it. One Elko County rancher, Cliff Gardner, has decided to take his case to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, arguing that states' rights mean the federal government has no authority over the land where his cattle graze.

1998: A federal judge issues a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering him to remove his cattle from the federal lands. He lost an appeal to the San Francisco 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. He represented himself.

March 2002: Cliff Gardner is sentenced to a month in a Reno halfway house, along with a $5,000 fine and a year of probation. He has been under house arrest for the three previous months for not taking his cattle off of federal land. When his sentence — which affirmed the U.S. Forest Service's authority over the disputed land — was announced, more than 50 states' rights protesters were in the courtroom with him.

Three were dressed in white wigs as American Revolutionary War patriots and another wearing a wig and red coat said he was England's King George. "Has the West been won, or has the fight just begun?" read a banner at a rally outside the courthouse where 15 protesters on horseback carried signs while children waved the Nevada state flag. "This court has tried to intimidate the citizens of Nevada by attempting to make an example of Cliff Gardner," said Cliven Bundy, a Clark County rancher.

July 2009: The federal government is still fighting with local ranchers. They have signs posted all over the public land, stating that it is off-limits for grazing.

Some signs have been chain-sawed down; others have been filled with bullet holes. "There haven't been any confrontations out there, but we have to be careful," says Gail Marrs-Smith, who manages the area for the BLM. "We travel in pairs." Cliven Bundy,  a local organic melon farmer, is one of those who resent the changes. To protect an endangered tortoise, Clark County has set aside habitat by buying and retiring all of the government grazing leases in Gold Butte. But Bundy still runs his cows through here, even though since 1993 he has been ordered to desist because he has no permit. Bundy says that his family has grazed here since the nineteenth century and that he doesn't recognize the authority of the federal government. He has threatened resistance if anyone enforces the court order to remove his cattle from the wilderness. "It's so blatant," says Rob Mrowka, a conservationist who works for the Center for Biological Diversity, in Las Vegas. "Anyone can go out there anytime of the year and see cattle. BLM employees trying to protect sensitive plants and animals are very frustrated. It's a problem that's been going on and on."

April 2012: The BLM plans to round up Bundy's cattle. After several threats, these plans are abandoned. The Center for Biological Diversity files an intent to sue against the BLM for canceling their plans.

May 2012: BLM files a complain in a federal Las Vegas court seeking an injunction against Bundy.

February 2013: After endless complaints from ranchers and hunters, Nevada Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval demands the resignation of Kenneth Mayer, director of the Nevada Department of Wildlife. One of Mayer's biggest projects was deciding whether to add another Nevada animal to the endangered species list, the sage grouse. He had mapped the best places to mark as protected sage grouse habitats in the state, and the best places to encourage environmentally safe economic development.

Ranchers thought his conservation efforts were misplaced. The president of Hunters Alert told the New York Times, "What did Ken Mayer do? Nothing. Just habitat, habitat, habitat, which is a terrible thing for a person in his position to do. You get instant results when you poison a raven or shoot a coyote." Hunters also prefer predator killing because of its effects on the deer population. Scientists counter that ecosystem preservation is a far better way to stop extinction than predator management. Gerald Lent, a former chairman of the Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners called these findings, backed up by extensive research, "voodoo science."

Cliff Gardner reappeared during this fight, writing frequent letters to the editor to the Elko Daily Free Press about Mayer's eventual replacement. "I'm sure most of the people being considered for his job graduated from a college. These people are the cause of the destruction of wildlife."

August 2013: A court order says Bundy has 45 days to remove his cattle from federal land.

October 2013: A federal district judge court tells Bundy not to "physically interfere with any seizure or impoundment operation."

March 15, 2014: After nearly 20 years, the Bureau of Land Management sends Bundy a letter informing him that they plan to impound his "trespass cattle," which have been roaming on 90 miles of federal land. BLM averages four livestock impoundments a year, usually involving a few dozen animals.

March 27, 2014: The BLM has closed off 322,000 acres of public land, and is preparing to collect Bundy's cattle. Bundy files a notice with the county sheriff department, titled "Range War Emergency Notice and Demand for Protection." Bundy also says he has a virtual army of supporters from all over the country ready to protect him. He also has Gardner. "I think Cliven is taking a stand not only for family ranchers, but also for every freedom-loving American, for everyone," Gardner said. "I've been trying to resolve these same types of issues since 1984. Perhaps it's difficult for the average American to understand, but protecting the individual was a underlying factor of our government. ... My support is that I am determined to stand by the Bundy family in any fashion it takes regardless of the threat of life or limb."

Clark County Commissioner Tom Collins also supports Bundy. "The U.S. government has perpetrated a bigger fraud on people over those tortoises than Al Capone did selling swampland in Miami."

April 1, 2014: Bundy's 14 children and 52 grandchildren are all bunkered down at his house waiting for the BLM to arrive. Bundy is giving constant interviews and making constant calls to local and state officials. BLM has set up two "First Amendment areas" in nearby Bunkerville.

April 2, 2014: Around 30 protesters line up outside the Livestock auction house to protest the sale of Bundy's cattle. If Bundy doesn't pay the fees he's accumulated, his cows could be sold to another buyer.

A group of local conservationists sent a letter to local officials demanding that they support BLM's actions. One of those people was Bundy's cousin, Terri Robertson. They've only met a few times, and only at meetings about the federal lands. "He's just in a world of his own. I don't think he's working on all four cylinders," Robertson said. Bundy retorts that his city slicker cousin doesn't know what she is talking about.  "My cattle are the kind of cattle people look for at Whole Foods."

April 5, 2014: After decades of trepidation, federal officials and cowboys start rounding up what they think are Cliven Bundy's hundreds of cows. The operation was going to cost $1 million, and reportedly last until May. BLM contends that Bundy owes $1 million in fees, and will also have to pay the round-up expenses. Bundy — who retorts that he only owes $300,000 in fees — says the city folk are only hurting themselves by taking his cows. He told a reporter from the Las Vegas Review Journal that there would be 500,000 fewer hamburgers per year after his cows were towed away; "But nobody is thinking about that. Why would they? They're all thinking about the desert tortoise. Hey, the tortoise is a fine creature. I like him. I have no problem with him. But taking another man's cattle? It just doesn't seem right."

He also thinks the co-habitating cows and tortoises could have a beautiful, symbiotic relationship if the government would let them. "The tortoises eat the cow manure, too. It's filled with protein."

April 6, 2014: Cliven Bundy's 37-year-old son is arrested for "refusing to disperse" and resisting arrest. He was released the following day. His face is covered with scratches from fighting the feds. Before he left the detention center, authorities gave him a tuna fish sandwich. "It wasn't poison," he said. "I just ate it."

The Nevada Cattlemen's Association distances itself from protests over Bundy's cattle. "Nevada Cattlemen's Association does not feel it is in our best interest to interfere in the process of adjudication in this matter."

April 9, 2014: Two of Bundy's family members are injured in a confrontation with federal officials. One of them was Bundy's son, tasered after he kicked a police dog. "I'm almost getting mad enough to swear," Bundy says. "The one thing we're going to do is stay cool and we're gonna fight."

April 10, 2014: A protest camp has formed. There is a sign at the entrance that reads, "MILITA SIGHN IN."

Traveling from as close as St. George — and as far as Montana — a mix of characters waved picket signs at an encampment just before a bridge over the Virgin River, protesting the BLM's campaign.

"This is a better education than being in school! I'm glad I brought you. I'm a good mom," said Ilona Ence, a 49-year-old mother from St. George and Bundy relative who brought her four teenage kids to the ranch. "They're learning about the Constitution."

... Jack Faught, Bundy's first cousin, drove his forest green 1929 Chevy truck from Mesquite loaded with water and Gatorade.

"It's not about the cows," he said. "It's about the freedom to make our own choices close to home."

Polo Parra, a 27-year-old tattoo artist from Las Vegas, even showed up with two of his friends to support the rancher. Dressed in baggy clothes and covered in tattoos, the group carried signs that read "TYRANNY IS ALIVE" and "WHERE'S THE JUSTICE?" in red spray-painted letters.

One of Parra's friends, who would not share his name, had a pistol tucked in his waistband.

"I think it's bull, and it really made me mad," said Parra, who decided to make the trip when he heard about the violence that broke out on the ranch. "This isn't about no turtles or cows."

One protester, a former Arizona sheriff named Richard Mack, told Fox News about the militia's plans if violence broke out in Bunkerville. "We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front. If they are going to start shooting, it's going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers."

April 12, 2014: BLM decides not to enforce their court order: "Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public."

The Bundy son who was tasered said, "We won the battle." He told another outlet, "The people have the power when they unite. The war has just begun."

April 14, 2014: BLM also pledges that this isn't done. A spokesperson for the bureau said this Sunday, "The door isn't closed. We'll figure out how to move forward with this."

Some of Bundy's neighbors aren't impressed by his actions. "I feel that the rule of law supersedes armed militias coming in from all over the country to stand with a law-breaking rancher, which is what he is," one person told a local TV station.

Wild horse advocates are getting angrier, saying that the roaming cattle are ruining their habitats. Other scientists argue that the wild horses and cows alike are ruining habitats for other animals.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid tells a local news outlet, "It's not over. We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it's not over."

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 16, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
New Developments To Come

Letter From A Fellow Rancher
Explaining BLM Grazing Rights


Why Cliven Bundy Is In The Right.

http://viralsurvival.com/2014/04/14/clive-bundy-ranch/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 17, 2014, 12:02:08 AM
ONE POINT EVERYONE IS FORGETTING

Well ALMOST every as Sheriff Richard Mack mentioned it several times

The BLM are PARK RANGERS  They are NOT A POLICE/LAW agency

they have ZERO right to point guns at anyone save a poacher


Just sayin... [grin]

::)

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 17, 2014, 12:10:47 AM

From Dennis Michael Lynch - Documentary Film Maker


Raw Footage Video Footage

Raw Footage of the moments of tense stand off between
BLM and Bundy Ranch Supporters as Dennis Michael Lynch
takes one last chance at intervention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5CTeg1B3Bg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5CTeg1B3Bg

Dennis Michael Lynch - Documentary Film Maker On Fox News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtEVg8KNgBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtEVg8KNgBA

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Eighthman on April 17, 2014, 12:45:11 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/bundy-ranch-standoff-nevada-jerry-delemus-2014-4

The above should give serious warning to the Federal government - when total strangers volunteer to risk their lives in what could have erupted into open war.  As V says, " people should not fear their governments, governments should fear their people".

What a wonderful thing it might be if the Federal gov. was dissuaded by this emergent solidarity, without bloodshed, perhaps reacting as bullies that are secretly cowards.

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 17, 2014, 01:33:03 AM
Exclusive: Does Cliven Bundy Have Something Called "Prescriptive Rights", Why The BLM May Be Afraid To Go To Court



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Montana cattle rancher Todd Devlin says the BLM is now considering new ways of dealing with the Cliven Bundy situation. Devlin, is not just Montana cattle rancher but is also a County Commissioner in Prairie County Montana and he has worked with the Department of Interior, having taught workshops for the agency in the past. Monday, Devlin reached out to his contacts in the Department of the Interior to find out why the Bureau of Land Management has refused to work with Bundy rather than simply attempting to run over him.

Among the questions Devlin asked of the BLM, "Is it possible that this guy (Cliven Bundy) has prescriptive rights?" The response from top officials at the BLM, "We are worried that he might and he might use that defense."

So what exactly are prescriptive rights? Prescriptive right to property is an easement that gives some one the right to use land owned by someone else for a particular purpose. An example is using a path through Party A's land to get to your land, a prescriptive easement is allowed which gives the user the right to get to his land through A's property.

In most states, if a trespass or use of land occurs regularly for at least 5 years without the "owner" of the land taking legal action, prescriptive rights come into play. Because Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees to the BLM in 1993 but continued to use the land for over 20 years, it is possible he now has prescriptive rights to the land. That might explain why the BLM has not taken this issue to court and never bothered to file a lien against the cattle.

http://benswann.com/exclusive-does-cliven-bundy-have-something-called-prescriptive-rights-why-the-blm-may-be-afraid-of-going-to-court/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on April 17, 2014, 01:45:35 AM
I heard on aj from callers .that the blm was shutting down roads all throughout their managed land.this may be why.to take back that right.
Supposedly the blm will dump loads of dirt or dig a giant hole to keep folks from gaining access.no trespassing gov signs. even though its state public use land.if I'm correct.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 17, 2014, 01:48:14 AM
Interesting...

That is similar to mineral rights.

If YOU own property but not the mineral rights (most people do not unless they are old family estates) then if I discover there is gold or oil under your property I can file a claim and you will have to LEGALLY allow me access to get to that gold...

Nice huh?

Normally this is handled by giving the land owner a percentage of the claim...  sometimes if the land owner is stubborn they dig underneath on a slant :D

There was a HUGE case in Northern Canada where a prospector working for a large mining company found gold (in a creek by the highway beside a popular rock collecting road cut site). After tracing the source, he found the owner of the land. It was a widow who just happened to own those mineral rights.  So he made a deal with her for 10% of the proceeds. She agreed

Well the mining company took it to court because since he worked for them any gold found should have been theirs... but since the widow owned the rights, the prospector had her right up the claim...

BIG case in court... mining company lost :D  I may look up that story and add it to the Treasure section

So old rights are very tricky and DO hold up in court

But BLM goons are NOT COPS so they have no business doing what they were doing with hired thugs
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 17, 2014, 01:53:14 AM
Quote from: robomont on April 17, 2014, 01:45:35 AM
Supposedly the blm will dump loads of dirt or dig a giant hole to keep folks from gaining access.no trespassing gov signs. even though its state public use land.if I'm correct.

They are supposed to be KEEPERS of the land for WE THE PEOPLE  not take claim and block WE THE PEOPLE

Yes it is PUBLIC land... hunters ATVer's campers, tourists... decades of history in that area from Early man sites to Depression Era tent cities to Anastazi sites. Petroglyphs, Spanish Gold aristas, old mines from two mining booms 1800's and again 1900'. Devil's Hole

If they close it expect to see this escallate. If I had my ATV I would head out there but that won't be available for me till sept/oct
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 17, 2014, 02:09:01 AM
Needs to be repeated... Seems We the People let this happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAwALTdrMZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAwALTdrMZ8
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2014, 02:45:47 AM

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Mike Adams


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Patrick Henningsen

We were on the telephone today speaking with Mike Adams (Natural News) - sitting in while Pete is on-location at BundyGate - and Patrick Henningsen (21st Century Wire) LIVE on the Pete Santilli Show (GNN) discussing BundyGate and are now posting the following exposé in it's entirety with appropriate credits.   :P



BEHIND ENEMY LINES: Hi-Res Images of BLM War Zone Exposes Fed's Military Fiasco at Bundy Ranch (http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/14/exclusive-new-images-of-blm-warzone-expose-feds-military-fiasco-in-nevada/)

April 16, 2014
SPECIAL REPORT
21st Century Wire (http://21stcenturywire.com/)

The US federal government evoked the fury of animal right groups over their shocking treatment of cattle at the Bundy Ranch, and may soon face legal charges of severe animal abuse in Clark County, Nevada.

Federal agency's treatment of residents at the Bundy Ranch this past week included tasering, beating, wrongful arrest, threatening residents with attack dogs, and mobilizing a federal paramilitary force whose barrels were trained on US citizens, all in all, spending at least $3 million of tax payer money in an effort to sell stolen cattle over state lines in Utah and California.

A legal argument has also been made that the US Department of Interior's Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is now guilty of racketeering under the federal RIC) statute (Racketeer Influenced and Corruption Organizations). If all that wasn't enough, evidence is now emerging regarding pattern of extreme cruelty and abuse, and suspected culling of animals from the Bundy Ranch.

Nevada Assemblywoman Michelle Fiore has released new shocking information and images which document the horrors which BLM agents have inflicted on previously happy and healthy livestock.


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Michele Fiore
?@VoteFiore
Graphic Photo - One of many casualties from the #BundyRanch standoff. More to follow soon. #ShameOnBLM pic.twitter.com/G96lxmRece



During a live radio broadcast of The Pete Santilli Show on GMN, Fiore reveals new details of "the BLM's method of herding where they have slaughtered horses and cows. This time we have video of it, and pictures of it."

"I did post the first picture of one cow who was shot in the back of the head from a helicopter (photo above)."

I personally helped save a calf who still had an umbilical cord attached to her as she was separated from her mom. It is such a disgusting event (...)... they (BLM) don't herd cattle – they slaughter cattle."


'Abusively corralled'

"If you look at the stewardship of land, and herding of cattle, first of all these particular cattle that were grazing on 600,000 acres – understand that when the Bundy family would herd their own cattle, there would be water taps to where the cattle would go down to the water and herd them humbly and softly – no cruelty, no abuse, herding them to where the cattle could get injured".  

"We now have an evidenced-based argument now with how the BLM cannot take care of that cattle. We have cows giving birth (in the federal pen) where baby calves have been stepped and killed."

"This is the BLM's practice. They herd animals with helicopters, ATV's, and shotguns... If any cows get out of line – they get a bullet in the back of the head".

"Make sure the BLM are off state land and make sure the BLM are not allowed to herd cattle again".



Mass graves

"Near their compound, right off the highway, they were digging holes (...)... They tried to bury some cows on the compound, but I guess they didn't dig the hole deep enough, so throw a cow in and they dirt over him and you have cows legs cows' legs sticking up out of the dirt".


Earlier this week GMN revealed a secret recording of the BLM Special Agent in Charge, Daniel P. Love, who had stated that the BLM have not killed any cattle. Fiore's reply to Love's claim: "He's a flat out liar, period."


It was confirmed by ranchers and observers last week of how the BLM and their "contract cowboys" had deployed aggressive practices whilst rustling the Bundy's herd, using tactical helicopters (image, below) forcing cattle to removal zones, often times driving cows uphill in 90F heat – a lethal practice known to cause tremendous stress and exhaustion to the animals, causing sickness and even premature death.


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Last week, farmers suspected that BLM agents were also scooping up the dead animals with heavy equipment like Backhoe diggers, and either burying somewhere on the 600,000 acre public grazing land, or disposing of them somewhere off site.

In addition, reports by observers confirmed that spring heifers who were subject to abusive BLM tactics were forced to abandon some calves behind to hide in the desert bush (a common practice by mothers who are being rustled, who later can backtrack to retrieve their young) putting the calves at risk of death.

Critics now believe the BLM and Clark County Sheriff's Office could be facing a strong legal challenge for their reckless handling of the ill-fated operation underlined by a litany of both human and animal rights abuses.


New images of cattle rancher Cliven Bundy's tense standoff with the Federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) on Saturday afternoon  reveal how the armed agency's military operation configured to forcefully engage Bundy cowboys and their supporters who sought to liberate federally confiscated cattle over the weekend.

These exclusive images were taken by a GMN photographer positioned right above the action on the Southbound side of Interstate 15 near Bunkerville, Nevada.

Despite the BLM being instructed to leave the Bundy Ranch and Gold Butte area (http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/12/exclusive-sheriff-gillespie-announces-to-bundy-crowds-blm-activites-will-cease/) earlier that morning, the agency still insisted had a legal right to be there and that it would not let go of hundreds of cows it had already taken away from the Bundy Family.

Critics are asking if that 'legal right' also includes stationing a federal military force in Bunkerville.


Prior to this standoff, the special agent in charge of BLM's ground operations, Daniel P. Love, had issued a warning that any one who crosses the federal line in order to free the seized cattle – will be arrested. Love went on boasting his agency's advantage over Bundy supporters when saying,

"I've seen your numbers right now, you'd better hope that 10,000 show up."

It turns out that protesters needed far less numbers to overcome Love's federal army.

In the end, a Bundy's contingent of 150 cowboys on horseback and a few hundred of peaceful supporters – backed by a well-organised volunteer militia, all together, proceed to march past the BLM's line of demarcation to the entrance of cattle holding area, prompting the platoon of armed federal tactical teams to stand down and fall back.

This is the first collection in a three part series, showing the federal government's military build-up to Saturday's climax under US Interstate 15...


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LOVE LOST: Special Agent Love realizing that BLM have painted themselves into a corner.



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Part 2: BEHIND THE LINES – More Photos of 'DC Federales' – Preparing to Shoot Americans? (http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/16/part-2-behind-the-lines-photos-of-dc-federales-preparing-to-shoot-americans/)

April 16, 2014 BY 21WIRE

SPECIAL REPORT
21st Century Wire

When Clark County Nevada Sheriff Douglas Gillespie left the podium at Saturday morning's press conference at the Bundy Ranch, he left Cliven Bundy and his supporters believing that federal soldiers working for the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) would be 'standing down', only that didn't happen.

Was this is ploy by the BLM – to create a chaotic powder keg situation only hours later?

Why the BLM would withdraw from Gold Butte on the Bundy Ranch, but then secretly plan an huge armed confrontation – against Bundy cowboys and their supporters who were heading over to reclaim their stolen property – is astonishing.

Even at the moment of confrontation, the BLM did not appear to actually be fully standing down. What was the BLM expecting? Chief of the BLM issued a statement claiming (http://news.yahoo.com/militia-members-ultra-conservatives-rally-cause-nevada-rancher-030813408.html) that the absolute final stand-down order was given in light of 'safety concerns for the public and agents'.

Reports on the ground that day also confirmed that even more armed Federal reinforcements were on the way, but luckily were caught up in stand-still traffic ten miles out from the scene. What were they planning?

Exclusive photos supplied to 21WIRE by a GMN photographer positioned behind federal lines at the Battle of Bundy Ranch, further reveal the scale and scope of Washington's military operation on US soil.

Viewers can judge for themselves whether or not the US Federal government was playing a deceptive, deadly game with American lives - on both sides.


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LOS FEDERALES : BLM staging ground for military offensive.



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FEDERAL CATTLE RUSTLING: Washington's ill-conceived cow stealing operation ended in total failure.



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EYE SEE YOU: BLM mercenary contractor spots our GMN photographer positioned on higher ground.



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SIZING UP SITUATION: DC Federales begin to realize that citizens are determined to liberate Bundy's herd stolen by BLM.



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OVERWHELMING FORCE: BLM soldiers can't work out whether they are in Fallujah or Nevada.



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FINGERS ON TRIGGER: Federales ready to move, but not sure what they are doing (or why).



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EMBEDDED MEDIA: Police escort for FOX News team and Bundy rancher talking on the ground near standoff.



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'HEY, WE WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS': BLM's ploy could have easily ended in disaster – luckily no one was hurt this time.



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OH S**T: Penny finally drops for BLM army as they finally stand down.



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VICTORY: Cliven Bundy's cowboys flanked by hundreds of determined supporters on foot, moving to reclaim what is rightfully theirs.



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SURVIVOR: Bundy herd member heads back home after being under federal incarceration.



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HOW THE WEST WAS WON: Fearless and determined Cowboys driving their prize herd back to the Bundy Ranch.





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Here's a photo taken from the air of the BLM's secret bovine concentration camps. After this photo was released, the BLM ordered the FAA to shut down the air space over the ranch, creating a wartime "no fly zone" to prevent more pictures from being taken.



Is BLM a criminal racketeering operation?

Some have made a legal observation that the BLM, which falls under the U.S. Department of the Interior, may be guilty of racketeering under federal RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corruption Organization) statutes.

This photo was posted by Assemblywoman Michel Fiore. In a widely-shared tweet (https://twitter.com/VoteFiore/status/456179331216048129/photo/1). Fiore says, "Graphic Photo - One of many casualties from the #BundyRanch standoff. More to follow soon. #ShameOnBLM"

During a live radio broadcast of "The Pete Santilli Show" on the Guerilla Media Network (GMN) (http://guerillamedianetwork.com/) Fiore revealed new details of "the BLM's method of herding where they have slaughtered horses and cows."

"This time we have video of it, and pictures of it," she said.

"I did post the first picture of one cow [that] was shot in the back of the head from a helicopter. I personally helped save a calf who still had an umbilical cord attached to her as she was separated from her mom. It is such a disgusting event ... they (BLM) don't herd cattle -- they slaughter cattle."

"If you look at the stewardship of land, and herding of cattle, first of all these particular cattle that were grazing on 600,000 acres -- understand that when the Bundy family would herd their own cattle, there would be water taps to where the cattle would go down to the water and herd them humbly and softly -- no cruelty, no abuse, herding them to where the cattle could get injured," Fiore continued.

"We now have an evidenced-based argument with how the BLM cannot take care of that cattle. We have cows giving birth (in the federal pen) where baby calves have been stepped [on] and killed."

"They herd animals with helicopters, ATV's and shotguns... If any cows get out of line, the get a bullet to the back of the head," she added. "Make sure the BLM are off state land and make sure the BLM are not allowed to herd cattle again".

She said she observed, near the BLM's "compound" adjacent to the Bundy ranch, that personnel there were "digging holes."

"They tried to bury some cows on the compound," she said, "but I guess they didn't dig the hole deep enough." She said the legs of some cows were "sticking up out of the dirt."

Learn more (http://:http://www.naturalnews.com/044746_animal_atrocities_mass_graves_Bundy_Ranch.html#ixzz2z5wezFH4)



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Protest signs are posted along US. highway 170 protesting the closure of thousands of acres of Bureau of Land Management land that has been temporarily closed to round-up illegal cattle that are grazing south of Mesquite Nevada on April 10, 2014, in Mesquite, Nevada.
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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2014, 04:51:11 PM
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From: Carol Bundy
To: thorfourwinds

Thank you!

Watch your Email and Text messages. We will try to keep you informed but we will not be sending a constant barrage of emails to you.

In the meantime PLEASE follow us on facebook and join the facebook.

We only have one official page.

While we love all the support on the other Facebook pages and groups we only have one page.

BundyRanch (https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch)

If you would like to use a hashtag use #bundyranch #clivenbundy #standwithbundy

PLEASE share the things you like on Facebook, that is how we spread the word.

We know there are several other pages supporting us and we love them but we can only post updates to this page so please join us.

Thank you!!
Carol


Mailing Address:
Carol Bundy
7175 Gold Butte Rd
Bunkerville, NV 89007


From the Western Front:

Why Cliven Bundy should continue his fight, no matter what (http://video.foxnews.com/v/3476836691001/why-cliven-bundy-should-continue-his-fight-no-matter-what/#sp=show-clips/primetime)

A Voice of Reason Speaks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSlFfljWZQY

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 6 - All is Well - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSlFfljWZQY&list=UUJimfyIOFM3Yaot_V8bFLPQ)
Published on Apr 16, 2014




100% Pass This Time
Warning Order: Pack Your Bags & Be Ready!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubw64dkX8vY

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 5 - Why aren't YOU here? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubw64dkX8vY)
Published on Apr 16, 2014



Boots on the Ground - Chill out


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5JuwMTKE4

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 4 - Chillax - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5JuwMTKE4&list=UUJimfyIOFM3Yaot_V8bFLPQ)
Published on Apr 16, 2014



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We knew this was coming.   :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPXezBfrW3I

Anonymous: Bundy Ranch Nevada - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPXezBfrW3I&list=UUY1hU8fYuiX4gBE_6HUXdRg)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPdfbzUY9u8

Anonymous, Bundy Ranch - Oil and Gas Fracking? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPdfbzUY9u8&list=UUY1hU8fYuiX4gBE_6HUXdRg)

Published on Apr 16, 2014

For Map See: http://www.naturalnews.com/files/Petroleum-Data-Clark-County-Nevada.pdf


Greetings people of The United States and The World.

We are Anonymous.

Anonymous have been trying to uncover the real reason for the 200-man armed invasion of the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada by The Bureau of Land Management, BLM.

Anonymous has found that BLM is actually in the business of raking in millions of dollars by leasing Nevada lands to energy companies that engage in fracking operations.

This document from the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology shows significant exploratory drilling being conducted in precisely the same area where the Bundy family has been running cattle since the 1870s. The Gold Butte area is indicated on the lower right corner of this map and it clearly shows numerous exploratory drilling operations have been conducted there.

Whats also clear is that oil has been found in nearby areas and possibly even within the Gold Butte area itself.

It is, of course, customary for the U.S. government to bring armed soldiers to an oil dispute, such as Operation Iraqi Freedom during the American War on Terror. Despite the claims by the mainstream media, it is highly unlikely Heavily armed snipers, helicopters and militarized soldiers would have been invoked over "endangered turtles".

This BLM military operation of rounding up Mr. Bundys cattle is all about Oil Fracking leases that will make a lot of money for US Senator Harry Reid and his family.

It's also a huge coincidence that the new head of the BLM is a man by the name of Neil Kornze, who not only was he the former senior policy advisor on public lands issues to Dirty Harry Reid, who by no coincidence has recently worked on helping to craft a recent industry-friendly draft policy on Fracking for natural gas.

http://www.doi.gov/whoweare/blm-dir.cfm

Matter of fact, turns out Harry Reid has a corporate and industrial empire rigged for himself and his family in Nevada. Its no secret that Harry's way of profiting off his position is by using his influence to push through deals that help his family members. Senator Reid has got family representing virtually every major industry in the region.


This is not surprising of course.

In fact, kickbacks connected to the lucrative oil and gas industries has become the standard way to bribe politicians in the United States, which, as of 2014, is technically a Plutonomy, not a Democracy.

Using a federal agency to seize cattle, and physically intimidate and brutalize a family to facilitate that dirty deal seems perfectly legitimate to the crooks in the US senate and government. To their own devices they will always attempt to cover up the evidence but no more.

Anonymous will bring swift justice and punishments to these tyrants.

It's time to fight back, not with a federal army and concentration camps, but we will make the elite realise that we will be inside their local intranets, we will be inside their mail servers, we will be inside their web servers.

We will wipe them off the face of the earth by wiping their data and overloading their government websites by a new wave of DDOS, account password cracking and botnet attacks.

We will respond to their threats and violence with our technical espionage and our solidarity with the downtrodden.

The Elite's time of reckoning has come.

We are Anonymous
We are Legion
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
United as One
Divided by None
We are Uniting Humanity
We Are You
Expect Us


To Senator Harry Reid, The Bureau of Land Management and the United States Government.


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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2014, 06:20:08 PM
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Oath Keepers Site Taken Offline after Renewed Call to Stand Watch at Bundy Ranch | The Daily Sheeple (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/oath-keepers-site-taken-offline-after-renewed-call-to-stand-watch-at-bundy-ranch_042014)

TruthstreamMedia.com ?April 16th, 2014


UPDATE: A brand new message sent out by Stewart Rhodes as we were writing this says that the OathKeepers.org server, along with thousands of others, went down this morning caused by a problem at the data center that houses their site, and in the meantime, they are using an alternative site at oath-keepers.blogspot.com.

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After sending out a new call to action and renewed call for all Oath Keepers to stand watch at the Bundy Ranch, the site OathKeepers.org has been taken offline.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0o9QflSMQ


Oath Keepers Site Taken Offline after New Call to Stand at Bundy Ranch - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0o9QflSMQ)


In the urgent message, Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes wrote:

NOTE: First, at the moment things are quiet here. 99% of the rumors on the internet are either blatantly false or wildly inaccurate. No strong presence of federal agents has been seen. Remnants of BLM's recent sojourn here are still present, such as the lights they had put up at their "field-headquarters" and no doubt we are under surveillance of all kinds, but there is no overt, visible massing of federal law enforcement.

We are, however concerned that the domestic enemies of the Constitution that infest the federal government might try to take advantage of folks going home, and attempt to make a move on the Bundy family. We feel certain that they will want to try again at some point, perhaps in a different way, even perhaps by executing a dynamic entry raid to attempt to arrest the Bundys. And we have heard that this is being discussed, though I have not been able to directly confirm it. But it is a real risk.

Therefore, to prevent such a raid, or to at least throw a monkey wrench into any such plans and make it more difficult for them, we're doing the following:

1: We are calling on all Oath Keepers who can possibly get here to come to the Bundy Ranch to serve as volunteers on an ongoing, rotating watch. That is not because there is any great emergency, but is a preventative measure – sort of like doing a rotation on the DMZ.

I am urging each and every Oath Keepers member who can, to get here and spend a bit of time to ensure that the Bundys are not alone. We need boots on the ground. We want you here, standing watch, which is appropriate for us Oath Keepers since our motto is "Not on Our Watch."
...
The Bundys are open and very grateful for people coming to be there for them, and thus far the caliber and quality of the people who've been here has been outstanding. From all over America people of good character and brave spirit have come to help and have done honor to our American traditions. We want those types of people. We do not want hot-heads who are looking for a fight. We want "cool, calm, and collected" – the "quiet professional." Thank you for understanding. Yes, by all means, bring your rifles, handguns, and whatever other gear you think you will need to stand watch, and yes, that includes any cammo you think will work best.

2: A rotating vigil of state legislators and current serving sheriffs at the ranch. This second part of our plan is a continuation of what we've already been doing. Oath Keepers helped facilitate a number of legislators from several Western States traveling to the Bundy Ranch this past week. Sheriff Mack's Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA.org) helped ensure that some real-deal constitutional Sheriffs were also present on the side of the Bundy family.

(Cached page here (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BW4UQx5SDHIJ:www.oathkeepers.org/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a).)

The timing of site's take down is curious to say the least considering it falls not only on the heels of the Oath Keepers newest call to action, but also on news spilling out all over the place that there are mass graves for the Bundy's cows killed by BLM and Senator Harry Reid's corrupt multi-billion-dollar dealings with Chinese energy companies over the real reason they want the Bundy's off that Nevada land in short order.

There are people concerned the situation unfolding out there could turn into the next Ruby Ridge or Waco Siege; however, those tragic events happened back in the pre-Internet days, when the government and its puppet media could more easily shape the narrative however they wanted to. Now we have instant communication, a strong alternative media base, and when it comes to a situation like this where the government is trying to run amok all over the Constitution, We the People have to keep talking.


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Posted on Brother James' Facebook page.   :P
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
I'm on Santilli LIVE now.

BundyGate with thorfourwinds on The Pete Santilli Show (http://guerillamedianetwork.com/)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
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NO WACO: Americans remember Clinton and Reno's brutal butchering of men, woman, and children at Waco.


Part 3: BEHIND THE LINES – More Stunning Photos, Video of Bundy Ranch Standoff (http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/17/part-3-behind-the-lines-more-stunning-photos-video-of-bundy-ranch-standoff/)

SPECIAL REPORT
21st Century Wire

It was an emotional two hours. Last week's standoff between the Federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Bundy Ranch supporters will undoubtedly endure as a pivotal moment in 21st century American – where, for the first time in living memory, federal despotism has held in check.

As 21WIRE reported previously, Clark County, Nevada Sheriff Douglas Gillespie had given thousands of Bundy supporters the false impression that the BLM, police and gov't contracted mercenary soldiers – would in fact be "standing down". Much to the public's surprise some two hours later, after making their way along the highway to release hundreds of seized Bundy cattle, they were met with multiple platoons of armed Federal agents and SWAT gunman in what can only be described as a type of ambush by a brutal US government.

Amongst the diverse crowd of Bundy family members and public who bravely volunteered themselves to be on the front line alongside the cowboys – and in the federal gun-sights – were women, specifically cowgirls on horseback (see their photo at bottom of article). This was one of the most powerful and enduring images which will undoubtedly go down in American history.

Provided exclusively to 21WIRE, GMN's man behind the lines, photographer Shannon Bushman, captured some of the most seminal images recorded during this historic event – not only from behind federal military lines, but also alongside the people whose determination and steel will redefined what liberty and freedom look like in 21st century America.

PHOTOS HERE (http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/17/part-3-behind-the-lines-more-stunning-photos-video-of-bundy-ranch-standoff/)



GMN RELEASES FULL VIDEO DOCUMENTING HISTORIC CATTLE RELEASE  (33 min)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfL1OoD1BYw

Battle At Bundy Ranch - Cattle Release (Exclusive Video) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfL1OoD1BYw)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 18, 2014, 04:14:08 AM
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Following up on this dead link...thanks Clark County, for nothing.   :P

Anonymous, Bundy Ranch - Oil and Gas Fracking? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPdfbzUY9u8&list=UUY1hU8fYuiX4gBE_6HUXdRg)

QuotePublished on Apr 16, 2014

For Map See: http://www.naturalnews.com/files/Petroleum-Data-Clark-County-Nevada.pdf

Nope.
THIS LINK IS NOW INVALID

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So, digging for the appropriate graphic, we figured we might as well flesh out the story of how John Lear and Ron (Zorgon) Schmidt got run off of their fully-legal 'mining claim' by a back-stabbing BLM teaming up with what many might consider a tasty dinner (http://www.familyoven.com/recipe/louisiana-turtle-stew/146973) whilst in-country.   :P

The only thing better than easy target acquisition (other than dry socks   ;) ) is a warm dinner and a cold beer back behind the wire.   :P

Get your gear here (http://www.tacticalresponse.com) before departing for Nevada.     ;)


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Does everyone (anyone   :P)  understand 'fracking' (http://dangersoffracking.com/).?    ???

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BLM fracking racket exposed! Armed siege and cattle theft from Bundy ranch really about fracking leases (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/blm-fracking-racket-exposed-armed-siege-and-cattle-theft-from-bundy-ranch-really-about-fracking-leases_042014)

QuoteThe Bureau of Land Management says its 200-man armed siege of the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada is all about protecting an "endangered tortoise."

But a Natural News investigation has found that BLM is actually in the business of raking in millions of dollars by leasing Nevada lands to energy companies that engage in fracking operations.


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This document from the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology shows significant exploratory drilling being conducted in precisely the same area where the Bundy family has been running cattle since the 1870's and where the legendary Lear/Zorgon 'Gold Mine' entrance to the trackless caverns below ties this heavy-handed tyrannical land-grab to not only Zorgon and the Tall Whites (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1700.0), but the Dulce base (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3446.0) and Area 51 (https://www.facebook.com/areafiftyone.brothel.1)... oops ... wrong file   ;) Area 51 Area (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=123.0)   :P

The "Gold Butte" area is indicated on the lower right corner of the document (see below), and it clearly shows numerous exploratory drilling operations have been conducted there.

What's also clear is that oil has been found in nearby areas and possibly even within the Gold Butte area itself.



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It is, of course, customary for the U.S. government to bring armed soldiers to an oil dispute.

Operation "Iraqi Freedom" (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/meast/operation-iraqi-freedom-and-operation-new-dawn-fast-facts/) for starters... :P

However, heavily armed snipers, helicopters and militarized soldiers have never before been deployed to protect the fauna or flora. As any Marine will tell you, in all previous operations, we merely ran over anything in our way at speed - including tortoises.    ;D


Anyone who thinks this siege isn't about reptiles (http://www.crowdedskies.com/dulce_papers3.htm)

...oops...alternate reality...this is what is supposed to be the line:

... is about reptiles is kidding themselves, especially at this late stage in the breakdown of the USGOV psyops called


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Here's the map showing the oil exploration conducted on the land where Bundy runs his cattle (all the red crosshairs are oil and gas exploration drilling operations).


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Secret government map documenting the targeting of the secret
Lear-Zorgon Gold Butte secret Dulce 7th level entrance masquerading as a gold mine.   :P


BLM fracking racket exposed! Armed siege and cattle theft from Bundy ranch really about fracking leases | The Daily Sheeple (http://www.thedailysheeple.com/blm-fracking-racket-exposed-armed-siege-and-cattle-theft-from-bundy-ranch-really-about-fracking-leases_042014)


BLM collects $1.27 million in shale fracking leases
The Bureau of Land Management has just cashed in with $1.27 million in oil and gas leases in Nevada. This was just reported two weeks ago in ShaleReporter.com, which states:

U.S. Bureau of Land Management geologist Lorenzo Trimble tells the Las Vegas Review-Journal the Elko County oil and gas leases sold Tuesday for $1.27 million to six different companies. The auction took place in Reno. The leases are near where Houston-based Noble Energy Inc. wants to drill for oil and natural gas on 40,000 acres of public and private land near the town of Wells.

The Review-Journal reports

the project would be the first in Nevada
to use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking
,

to extract oil and gas from shale deposits.


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The way this works, of course, is that BLM runs land theft operations by claiming they are "managing" the land and thereby kicking everyone else off it.

They then invoke a reptile, an owl, a bird, a snake or some other animal which they claim to be "saving," even while they are stealing and destroying hundreds of cattle belonging to a private rancher trying to make an honest living in a nation where productive Americans are increasingly branded "enemies of the state" by an increasingly oppressive administration like no other before in the history of the Republic.



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Once control of the land is established via court order or by bringing armed men with automatic weapons, BLM then turns around and leases the land to fracking companies who proceed to exploit the land using hydraulic fracturing techniques that inject toxic chemicals into groundwater supplies (and have been linked to earthquakes).

The money collected by the BLM is then used to increase BLM salaries and bonuses, and invest in rather odd, if not nefarious projects involving off-shore investor partners (some who had to sue BLM in an attempt to get their money back) in such things as shipping container hydroponic lettuce farms - perhaps to feed the endangered tortoises - or is this another blip in the Matrix and actually reveals another method of survival for the elite in the DUMBS after TSHTF?   :P

And the investigation leads to a major 8-year attempt to corner the exploding hemp market...stay tuned...we have the documents secured off-line as information is being scrubbed at an alarming rate on all avenues relating to all of the above.

In essence,

the BLM is a
criminal mafia racket,

and Cliven Bundy, John Lear, Zorgon and other hard-working innocent Nevadans just happened to be in the way of their next target, the Gold Butte area of Nevada...collateral damage (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collateral%20damage).   :P




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CLICK THE ABOVE GRAPHIC (http://[url=http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/water/fracking/fracking-action-center/)

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Dirty Harry believes fracking pads are preferable to the humble Americans attempting
to eek out a bit o'gold in depressed(ing) economic times such as the Zorgon/Lear
desert(ed) enterprise where in the end, they got the shaft... ;D    pretty neat, huh?   :P



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Call To Action: Fracking is Ecocide (http://www.endecocide.eu/newsletter/aufruf/AufrufTeaserFrackingEnL.html)



Let's make 'FRACKING' the despised dirty word
it represents...a four-letter word?



FRAK
THIS !




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Pete Santilli called Alex Jones out today...show link below.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aawKS_o8mdI

Pete Santilli Episode # 684 - BUNDYGATE with thorfourwinds and Former Congressman James Traficant - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aawKS_o8mdI)

PRC plug and cut-off before hard break...
start 23:22
after commercial
TFW BUNDYGATE
start 29:30 - 35:35

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 18, 2014, 06:20:26 AM
The TRUTH....

"The Desert Tortoise in Relation to Cattle Grazing"
Study by the Univ of Arizona
Published RANGELANDS 12(3), June 1990
PDF


"A favorite food of desert tortoises is fresh cow dung...in flat country...cattle will range as much as four miles from water, thus, from one watering place, cows can distribute water to tortoises on over 50 square miles. A cow distributes 12 cow pies each day. The more cows on the range, the more watering places there will be for the tortoises, and the more likely it will be that the tortoise will find a life-sustaining cow-pie."

So it seems that the Tortoise was becoming endangered because the number of cows has been dwindling 

"The Desert Tortoise in Relation to Cattle Grazing"  (https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/rangelands/article/viewFile/10776/10049)

Report: Desert Tortoise Greatly Benefits from Bundy's Cattle Grazing (http://www.infowars.com/report-desert-tortoise-greatly-benefits-from-bundys-cattle-grazing/)

Bureau of Land Management Hiding Behind Toothless Tortoise (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/62380)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 18, 2014, 06:34:28 AM
The Truth
Must See

4 hours, almost 7,000 views on YouTube going Viral

Cliff Gardener; Fellow Rancher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eooqqf26gsE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eooqqf26gsE
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 18, 2014, 08:25:23 AM
BLM History of Going Bad

QuoteIt just doesn't get any more blatant than this.

While miners, ranchers and county commissioners all across rural Nevada can attest to the Bureau of Land Management's arrogance and indolence, it takes a special level of hubris to openly and wantonly defy Congress and the law of the land.

Yet, when it comes to carrying out the instructions from Congress on the management of wild horses and burros under the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971, the BLM is so bold and so brazen as to write on its own website that it doesn't care one whit what the law says.
http://watchdogwire.com/nevada/2014/01/31/lawsuit-federal-agencies-ignoring-the-law-on-handling-wild-horses-and-burros/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on April 18, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Thor, 1.27 mil for all that land is going to be almost worthless for BLM. There must be more there than we see. If it were 127mil ok. What else is going on and with whos hands out?  1.27 won't even buy them one days food. So excuse the pun but wheres the beef?
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 18, 2014, 04:27:37 PM
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Getting the word out...

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Cliven Bundy - American Hero


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Expecting thousands... see you there.




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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 18, 2014, 06:50:29 PM

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 18, 2014, 08:43:54 PM
From Ron Paul

Sen. Reid Ups Threats Against Bundy Ranch Protestors, Calling Them 'Domestic Terrorists'


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United States Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) is upping his threats against the protestors at the Bundy ranch. Following his ominous declaration on Monday that the US government's confrontation with protestors at the Nevada ranch is "not over" despite the government having backed-off from its raid of the ranch, Reid is now calling the protestors "domestic terrorists."

In effect, Reid is urging the US government to make actions against the protestors a top priority and use all means available under the USA PATRIOT Act and otherwise against them.

Terming the protestors domestic terrorists is not a hollow rhetorical threat. Rather, it is a real classification under the law that carries dire consequences. Rutherford Institute President John W. Whitehead explained in 2011:
     
     The Patriot Act drove a stake through the heart of the Bill of Rights, violating at least six of the ten original amendments — the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments — and possibly the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments, as well. The Patriot Act also redefined terrorism so broadly that many non-terrorist political activities such as protest marches, demonstrations and civil disobedience were considered potential terrorist acts, thereby rendering anyone desiring to engage in protected First Amendment expressive activities as suspects of the surveillance state.

The American Civil Liberties Union explained in 2002 that the USA PATRIOT Act's "overbroad definition of domestic terrorism" can subject some people exercising civil disobedience to new government powers including civil asset seizures without even a court hearing, US law enforcement access to tax records at the Internal Revenue Service, and more easily obtained search warrants. If Reid has his way, we may well see these and more police tactics used against the Bundy family and the Bundy ranch protestors in the coming days.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2014/april/18/sen-reid-ups-threats-against-bundy-ranch-protestors,-calling-them-domestic-terrorists.aspx
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 18, 2014, 09:07:42 PM
Rand Paul on
Feds Use of Arms, Harry Reids Terrorism Rhetoric.


Rand Paul weighs in on Reids accusations
of domestic terrorism by The Bundys, and their supporters.
He also addresses the Fed overreach, and the BLM violence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJHVPXknc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJHVPXknc4

Reid is apparently serious  about this:

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These people, who hold themselves out to be patriots are not. They're nothing more than domestic terrorists," Reid said Thursday at an event hosted by the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

The Nevada Democrat said he had spoken in detail to Attorney General Eric Holder, FBI Director James Comey, Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell, as well as the Clark Country sheriff.

"Keep in mind what happened up there. There were hundreds, hundreds of people from around the country, that came there," Reid said. "They had sniper rifles on the freeway. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons."

.....The Kentucky Republican (Rand Paul ) said he doesn't want to see violence on either side and hopes the government doesn't provoke the situation.

"It shouldn't be about violence of arms, and I hope that the government will not be there in full arms and provoke a showdown and something terrible will happen," Paul said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/cliven-bundy-nevada-ranch-harry-reid-105811.html

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 19, 2014, 01:43:27 AM
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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 19, 2014, 03:59:09 AM

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on April 19, 2014, 04:58:55 AM
So the 8 or so test oil sites bothered no turtles? Lots of heavy equipment. I still think the smoking gun has not shown its self. Something secret is hiding or something worth billions. A few million to these guys is nothing. The big story or secret is still out there waiting to be found.

Why is this all over the national news? Yahoo had it for a day and it seems to have been pulled. This should be front page news! And people tell me that we are censored.

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In effect, Reid is urging the US government to make actions against the protestors a top priority and use all means available under the USA PATRIOT Act and otherwise against them.



And this is not national news? If this is not real news then what is?

Ok,   "Before Idol there was Star Search"   Number 1 lead story in Yahoo News.

What happened to the good old CNN and real reporting.

Lets see.

Quote
  • NEW Divers see bodies in sunken ferry (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/asia/south-korea-ship-sinking/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • The ferry texts were fake (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/asia/south-korea-ferry-social-media-reax/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • Last moments on the sinking ferry  (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/04/18/tsr-dnt-lah-south-korea-ferry-wrap.cnn.html?hpt=hp_t2) (http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.e/img/3.0/global/icons/video_icon.gif) (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/04/18/tsr-dnt-lah-south-korea-ferry-wrap.cnn.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • 7.2 magnitude quake hits Mexico (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/americas/mexico-earthquake/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • NEW Dragon heads to space station (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/us/spacex-dragon-launch/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • NEW Body may be missing 5-year-old  (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/us/massachusetts-child-body-found/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • Parents flip out as boy is snatched (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/04/16/dnt-fake-kidnapping-outrages-parents.kcpq.html?hpt=hp_t2)  (http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.e/img/3.0/global/icons/video_icon.gif) (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/04/16/dnt-fake-kidnapping-outrages-parents.kcpq.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • NEW Miley Cyrus tour officially over (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/showbiz/miley-cyrus-hospitalized/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • W.H.: No comment on Bieber petition (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/politics/deport-justin-bieber-petition/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
  • Deadliest accident ever on Everest (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/18/world/asia/nepal-everest-avalanche/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
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Nope, nothing in the top 10 there either.

Ok maybe they missed it. How about CBS, they always do/did good reporting. Lets see.

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Survivor Live replay
Amazing Race photos
Talk nerdy to me
Survivor Ponderosa

Lets try the News Channel

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Ferry captain charged with negligence
Baseball gives stroke man purpose
Climbing Mt Everest
Judge says I hope you die
Iraqi man guilty
Lindsay talks about sex list

Nope, nothing there either.

Ok, just gotabe on Fox news, lets see.

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Ferry captain
Obama / pipeline
Crisis in Ukraine
Mt Everest slide
Fake mayor twitter account

And a BINGO

Sheriff caught in the middle of Nevada rancher feud

A rancher feud?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/18/sheriff-caught-in-middle-over-nevada-rancher-feud/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/18/sheriff-caught-in-middle-over-nevada-rancher-feud/?intcmp=latestnews)

So I guess it is a reaal stoy that no one wants to touch.
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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 19, 2014, 05:22:11 AM
Quote from: deuem on April 19, 2014, 04:58:55 AM

So I guess it is a reaal stoy that no one wants to touch.

Deuem,

Astute observations, thank you!

Yes no mainstream news outlet has covered this,
aside from Fox News, specifically Shawn Hannity.

CBS has ran a few artices, same with Washington Post.

I heard today on The Tom Sullivan Show that during
the time of the standoff in which the people would not
disperse, the BLM called for backup from the Police,
yet Governor Sandoval refused, and would not send
in back up. This may be why it ended with them pulling
out, as they were really outnumbered.

This also explains why it was only after the BLM
pullled out that the local Police did finally make
a presence.

I applaud Sandoval for this action.
It would have taken a different turn if Police
back up had been sent in.

The only coverage during this time of the event
is by few videos those who participated.

Last  I checked, the FAA shows airspace still closed.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on April 19, 2014, 05:47:12 AM
Nevada Senator Hellar
vs. Dirty Harry Reid


We figured as much, Harry Reid would not know a Patriot  :P

QuoteSen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) on Friday called for a Senate hearing into the dispute between Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) over cattle grazing.

Heller described as "patriots" the people who came armed to Bundy's ranch after the BLM began to seize his cattle for refusing to pay grazing fees and fines that now total more than $1 million.
Heller debated the ranch standoff on a Nevada television station with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who has called the armed Bundy supporters "domestic terrorists."

"What senator Reid may call domestic terrorists, I call patriots," Heller said. "We have a very different view on this."

"If they are patriots, we are in trouble,"

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/203913-senator-urges-hearing-on-bundy-ranch-dispute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2pIHbMpfyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2pIHbMpfyA

Nevada Senator Heller calls for BLM hearings during appearance with Reid

Quote Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., called for Congressional hearings into the BLM's stand-off with cattle rancher Cliven Bundy.

Heller requested the hearings during a joint appearance today with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., on the KSNV-TV News 3 program "What's Your Point?"

Nevada's junior senator noted that he wants to determine "who drove" BLM policy into the tense standoff that ended Saturday.

Heller said that he took issue with the BLM "coming in with a paramilitary army. It made a lot of people very uncomfortable."

"It's obvious," Reid noted, "the federal government can't just walk away from this."

Speaking Thursday, Reid equated Bundy and his supporters to "domestic terrorists."
http://www.mynews3.com/mostpopular/story/heller-reid-nevada-blm-bundy-whats-your-point/vIodW1wbdUy1tsBDO1zYEQ.cspx
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 19, 2014, 07:07:17 AM
SWEET!!!

Dean Heller is AWESOME
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: DarkSide on April 19, 2014, 07:16:56 AM
Chinese Year of the WOOD HORSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfL1OoD1BYw
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 19, 2014, 08:00:56 AM
Charlie Daniels: Harry Reid should be in jail for 'impersonating an American'

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April 18, 2014
On Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called supporters of the Bundy ranch "domestic terrorists" and questioned their patriotism. Country music star Charlie Daniels responded the same day with a tweet saying Reid should be in jail for "impersonating an American."

"Harry Reid you should be put in jail for impersonating an American," he tweeted.

"Ouch!" the Twitchy staff wrote. A number of people agreed.

"AMEN Charlie!! I second that motion," one person said.

"Please keep the light shined on this cockroach @SenatorReid & his punk kids too @CharlieDaniels -you've got a powerful torch to do it," another person added.

http://www.examiner.com/article/charlie-daniels-harry-reid-should-be-jail-for-impersonating-an-american
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 19, 2014, 08:02:35 AM
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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Eighthman on April 19, 2014, 05:26:11 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57836973-90/utah-lands-lawmakers-federal.html.csp

This COULD BE HUGE.  Whatever the legal defects or contentions surrounding the Bundy situation, it may draw attention to the creeping tyranny of the Feds in seizing state land.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 19, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
Quote from: DarkSide on April 19, 2014, 07:16:56 AM
Chinese Year of the WOOD HORSE

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 20, 2014, 12:07:26 AM
Turn About is Fair Play

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 20, 2014, 12:51:46 AM
PROOF That it's NOT about back fees... 

90,000 Acres of Texas Ranchers' Land About To Be Seized By the BLM
BY STEVE STRAUB ON APRIL 15, 2014 ·


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The BLM stole 140 acres of the Tommy Henderson ranch along the Red River thirty years ago.

They took his land and paid him absolutely nothing. He sued and lost.

Now the BLM is using that court case as precedent to do it again. The problem is, the land they want to seize is property that ranchers have a deed for and have paid taxes on for over a hundred years.

The BLM claims that about 90,000 acres (116 miles along the Red River) have never belonged to Texas in the first place. They will seize the land and it will seriously change the boundaries between the two states.

Watch the video:

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/90000-acres-of-texas-ranchers-land-about-to-be-seized-by-the-blm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQJcQfrkcls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQJcQfrkcls
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2014, 01:28:57 AM

#Bundy Ranch - 20 April 2014:

All Quiet
on the
Western Front




May Everyone Everywhere have a Blessed and Happy Easter Sunday.



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We are
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CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/us/nevada-rancher-rangers-cattle-showdown/)

"A confrontation teetered on violence Wednesday when Bundy family members and dozens of supporters angrily confronted a group of rangers holding Tasers and barking dogs on leashes near Bunkerville, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas."

"Federal officials say a police dog was kicked and officers were assaulted."


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March 27, 2014: The BLM has closed off 322,000 acres of public land, and is preparing to collect Bundy's cattle. Bundy files a notice with the county sheriff department, titled "Range War Emergency Notice and Demand for Protection."

Bundy also says he has a virtual army of supporters from all over the country ready to protect him. He also has Gardner. "I think Cliven is taking a stand not only for family ranchers, but also for every freedom-loving American, for everyone."

Cliff Gardner continues, "Perhaps it's difficult for the average American to understand, but protecting the individual was a underlying factor of our government. ... My support is that I am determined to stand by the Bundy family in any fashion it takes regardless of the threat of life or limb."

Clark County Commissioner Tom Collins also supports Bundy.

"The U.S. government has perpetrated a bigger fraud on people over those tortoises than Al Capone did selling swampland in Miami."


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Harry Reid called Cliven Bundy's supporters, domestic terrorists today. (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/17/harry-reid-labels-supporters-of-rancher-cliven-bundy-domestic-terrorists-reveals-federal-task-force-being-assembled/)

Speaking at a Las Vegas Review-Journal event, Reid was clear:

"They're nothing more than domestic terrorists.
I repeat: what happened there was domestic terrorism."



He also revealed that they are assembling a federal task force to drive Bundy and his cattle off federal land.

It's strange, it looked like the BLM were the terrorists, tasering one of the sons and knocking his mother to the ground and intimidating people with viscous growling dogs and automatic assault weapons, before stripping American citizens of their first amendment rights.   :P



We have this (http://www.operationamericanspring.org/) to say about that:

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Here are Harry Reid's 'domestic terrorists'.   :P

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Cliven Bundy spreading the word.

"My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley ever since 1877.
All these rights I claim have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use
of the forage and the water. I have been here longer.
My rights are before the BLM even existed."



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These are the good citizens of America standing together against an over-reaching,
tyrannical government gone rogue. These certainly do not look like a 'Reid Terrorist.'


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The angelic faces of domestic terrorists.   :P



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Salt-of-America Freedom Fighters



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Mother just learns her daughter is a 'domestic terrorist...:P



QuoteIn 1998 the Nevada federal district court issued an order permanently enjoining Bundy from grazing cattle on the allotment. It ordered him to remove all trespass cattle and set a penalty of $200 per day per animal remaining on the federal range.

That would make it somewhat difficult - if not impossible - to feed the Bundy family.

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Thankfully, the calvary arrived and called in reinforcements.


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James Yeager, Tactical Response.



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Only thing to do in the face of adversity is...PARTY!


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That's James in the white shirt in front of Carol Bundy at the party.



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Carol and Cliven with 'George' and Bundy Ranch Freedom Fighters
security behind Carol with two more behind Cliven.  Good work, TEAM!



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Cliven and Carol overlooking party central.


   
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Letting the man say his piece without media editing and bias. I give you my word this is a fine man and a hell of a Patriot.



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Another quiet morning tucked safely behind the wire, with HossUSMC double fisting coffee and Red Bull.



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Our 'reporter in the trenches' - James Yeager...this one's too easy...add your own caption.   :P



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Stuart Rhodes, James Yeager and Sheriff Brad Rogers of Elkhart, Indiana - Go Hoosiers!


One might email American Patriot Sheriff Rogers your supportive comments: brogers@elkhartcountysheriff



Wrap-up of TEAM TACTICAL RESPONSE at ground zero.


17 April 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9FoqI7SmI

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 7 - PSD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw9FoqI7SmI)



17 April 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EJFP-puc3Q

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 8 - Party - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EJFP-puc3Q)



18 April 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGdI_f-_W3w

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 9 - Day 4 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGdI_f-_W3w)



19 April 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1q8M3Gpyiw

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 10 - AmmoNation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1q8M3Gpyiw)



18 April 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vXAvfIgO04

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 11 - Party Time - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vXAvfIgO04)



19 April 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAGzrp9k23Q

Cliven Bundy Ranch - Part 12 - Saying Goodbye - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAGzrp9k23Q)


OK, so who's the 'new Sheriff' in town when it comes to inner security? Who else?   :P


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Now, that's a classic 3-point escort!
We notice TEAM YEAGER has relinquished inner security to TEAM CRAFT... probably alumni.      :o     :P



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"Despite what your momma told you,
violence does solve problems."




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Now, where have we seen that logo before in a high-profile situation?   :P

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Here's a recognizable version, aptly modeled by another true American Patriot.
R.I.P. Brother Chris. Semper Fi.

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Chris Kyle 1974 - 2013


Hint   :P

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Now it's time to narrow it down. Are these men SEALS, Blackwater, or what?

Well, by visiting the Craft International About Us (http://www.thecraft.com/AboutUs.html) page, we start to get answers.

In the image seen below, we see Chris Kyle with the exact same
standard issue Craft International uniform we see these men wearing.

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And now, for something completely refreshingly different:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrc3EETikCM

A Message to Anonymous. Nevada Governor 2014 David Lory VanDerBeek - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrc3EETikCM)



OK, back at you, David:   :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o74sMCU_kPQ

New Global Elite New Message From Anonymous 2014 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o74sMCU_kPQ)



We are the people that we've been waiting for
...BREAK CONTROL ALT DELETE...
is engaged.


We are Anonymous
We are Legion
United as One
Divided by Zero
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
We are Uniting Humanity
You are Us
We are You
Expect Us



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tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 21, 2014, 03:31:58 AM
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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on April 21, 2014, 03:32:35 AM
Thor, what would we put after brogers@elkhartcountysheriff?  Dot gov? 
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Eighthman on April 21, 2014, 01:10:25 PM
A bit of clarity, please:  in viewing these pictures of Craft, etc. , are we saying that the Elite may have lost the support of the "Praetorian Guard"?

In other words, the Cabal/Elite cannot depend on quasi-mercenary or special forces?
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on April 21, 2014, 07:50:37 PM
Yeah, I'm confused...  Why Craft at Boston and other psyops....and now here on the side We would not expect?  Or am I misreading here?
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 22, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Report: Bundy Family Unearths BLM Mass Cattle Grave

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"I feel that this needs to be put out for the public to see"

Mikael Thalen
Infowars.com
April 20, 2014
New photos released by the Bundy family Sunday provided more evidence to the claim that the Bureau of Land Management was illegally killing and burying confiscated cattle.

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http://www.infowars.com/bundy-family-uncovers-suspected-blm-cattle-grave/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Senduko on April 22, 2014, 11:33:41 AM
ye would expect that they would at least cremate the cattle for health issue's. That doesn't seem very smart to bury that much cattle.  Such a waste though. Perfectly healthy animals. So BLM is supposedly the ones protecting land eh.... yeesh what a skewed version of management they have.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on April 22, 2014, 11:59:48 AM
They probably didn't think about digging caleachy.probably misspelled.its basically lots of different size river stone and clay .very hard to dig .even with a backhoe.
In some ways it would have been better for wildlife if they were left exposed.for the coyotes and buzzards to feed their young.I think it was done so planes couldn't see.even though they had a ban on flying for public.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: zorgon on April 22, 2014, 08:09:07 PM
Live From Bundy Ranch: Assemblywoman Destroys MSNBC Host On The Air
This TV host just got taught a lesson in reality



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrwVDYjlTe4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrwVDYjlTe4


http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-nevada-republican-tear-apart-msnbcs-pro-blm-rhetoric/
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on April 25, 2014, 01:49:37 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNGJXDuLkdI


BLM Whistleblower: Reid Bunkerville and the Military Industrial Complex at Bundy Ranch - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNGJXDuLkdI)



Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on May 02, 2014, 09:03:51 AM
Any new news?  Surely seems all quiet on that western front...
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on May 04, 2014, 03:31:44 AM
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 02, 2014, 09:03:51 AM
Any new news?  Surely seems all quiet on that western front...

Seems ole Dingy Harry is riled up....someone spoke of
ripping his cajones off... :o

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/30/militia-leader-threatens-to-rip-harry-reids-blls-off-in-speech-to-cliven-bundy-supporters/

Meanwhile, some Nevadan congressman complains.....
( Is he talking orders from Dirty Harry? )

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/29/nevada-lawmaker-cliven-bundy-supporters-are-settting-up-checkpoints-against-residents/

Meanwhile, back at the Bundy Ranch, they are trying to nurse
the cows back to health, and move on past the killing perpetrated
by the BLM on the "tresspass cattle".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NknUU_M3Q58

And in the most recent developments, Bundy Ranch and supporters
have filed an official complaint against the BLM with the local
sheriff.


Rancher's kin take grazing fight to sheriff

Quote
Family members and other supporters took a Nevada rancher's grazing rights fight against the U.S. government to the sheriff in Las Vegas on Friday, filing reports alleging crimes by federal agents against people protesting a roundup of cattle from public land.

Rancher Cliven Bundy wasn't among those who filed handwritten complaints with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department — the agency with jurisdiction over Bundy's ranch in the Bunkerville area and much of Clark County.

Sheriff Douglas Gillespie issued a statement saying the complaints would be investigated
http://www.trivalleycentral.com/casa_grande_dispatch/national_news/rancher-s-kin-take-grazing-fight-to-sheriff/article_8791fa0e-d2e9-11e3-adae-001a4bcf887a.html
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on May 04, 2014, 04:09:59 AM
Thanks, BTS.

At least BLM have not moved in again with aggression...yet.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on May 04, 2014, 05:00:21 AM
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 04, 2014, 04:09:59 AM

At least BLM have not moved in again with aggression...yet.

Yes, that is good news!

Here too is a good idea on the part of Utah GOP Rep. Chris Stewart.


GOP rep wants to cut funding for federal 'paramilitary units' after BLM dispute

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/01/gop-rep-wants-to-cut-funding-for-federal-paramilitary-units-after-blm-dispute/


Quote"There are lots of people who are really concerned when the BLM shows up with its own SWAT team," he told the newspaper. "They're regulatory agencies; they're not paramilitary units, and I think that concerns a lot of us."

He has a really valid issue there...IMO.

Title: What are the Odds?: Harry Reid Owns 93 Acres Next to Bundy Ranch
Post by: Amaterasu on May 07, 2014, 12:11:18 AM
From:  http://www.truthandaction.org/busted-harry-reid-owns-93-acres-next-bundy-ranch/

QuoteHarry Reid has run 52 ranchers out of business so far, just like their recent efforts with Cliven Bundy, because of his ownership in Reid Bunkerville, LLC, which holds 93 acres in Nevada.

The parcels seem to be in the way of future development with the Chinese, which may even involve a freeway interchange and loop, and all sit west of the same general area as the land where all these 'trespassing cattle' graze.

We all know that the Reid crime syndicate had ulterior motives for the attacks on Cliven Bundy. Here's the proof.

    Below are the parcel numbers of land which the Clark County Assessors Office lists as owned by Reid Bunkerville, LLC, who coincidentally updated their company records on April 17, 2014. The parcel map with ownership data will be shown for the three parcels Reid Bunkerville, LLC owns,  below the linked parcel numbers.
     
    REID BUNKERVILLE L L C DST-901 #002-26-301-002
    REID BUNKERVILLE L L C DST-800 #002-26-301-004
    REID BUNKERVILLE L L C DST-800 #002-26-301-005
    REID BUNKERVILLE L L C DST-800 #002-26-701-001

More at the link.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 09, 2014, 04:04:59 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjqdiWqhEeQ
Bundy Ranch - A Special Edition of AmmoNation - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjqdiWqhEeQ)

Published on Apr 25, 2014
The AmmoNation saw that this story was not being covered by the mainstream media so we packed up our gear and headed West to Bunkerville Nevada. We didn't just report the story...we became part of it.


FOR THE RECORD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xKxWbBYcw

Interview with Cliven Bundy's Militia Representative - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xKxWbBYcw)

Published on Apr 12, 2014
On our visit to the militia camp we met and interviewed Ryan Payne, adviser and organizer for Operation Mutual Aid, a national organization of militia and patriotic citizens who have taken the stand between tyrants and the oppressed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYsK3DnW4Ug

Oklahoma Militia of 50,000 Stands Beside Bundy Ranch Against the Feds - YouTube (http://shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYsK3DnW4Ug)

Published on Apr 21, 2014
A land dispute in Nevada between rancher Cliven Bundy and the federal government began decades ago.?The Bureau of Land Management says Bundy was allowing his cattle to graze illegally, which triggered a round-up of about 400 head of cattle last week.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QszntbZiCiA

Feds To Hit Bundy Ranch Again With Multi-Agency Force Including Army Rangers - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QszntbZiCiA)

Published on Apr 23, 2014
A video posted yesterday by Freedom Fighters 2127 News claimed a source in Las Vegas had been told by a law enforcement officer that there were about 140 agents in Las Vegas where the government has set up a staging area for a second, more forceful, raid on the ranch. The video goes on to say that Las Vegas hotels are being filled with federal agents; BLM Rangers and FBI that are arriving in unmarked vehicles.

"J," Freedom Fighter's source, said that the vehicles are being parked in secure areas and parking lots in the Las Vegas area. "J" says this doesn't include those agents who may be flying in to take part in the raid.??This coincides with my investigation published on the 13th which included a phone call to the Holiday Inn in Mesquite Nevada, which is just miles fromthe Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville.

Every time that I mentioned the phrase "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms," or "ATF," the Holiday Inn desk clerk hung up on me. You can listen to those phone calls by clicking this link: http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2014/04...

Today I received brand-new video from one of my spies in Las Vegas that seems to confirm that federal agents are indeed massing in Sin City. This video shows federal agents in the bar of the hotel bragging about past exploits and warning about "bad breaches." My spy also took a tour of the hotel's parking facility and managed to capture their vehicles on video.

This man speaks with me in an exclusive interview, describing what he saw, heard, and recorded with his cell phone.??Read the rest with supporting links at: http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2014/04...

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 09, 2014, 06:47:13 PM

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 09, 2014, 07:12:06 PM

An excellent article by our friend Pete Santilli.


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05 May 2014

Death Threat Imminent: Vegas PD; Feds; Bundy Family & Supporters On Verge of Massacre of Epic Proportions | Alternative (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/05/death-threat-imminent-vegas-pd-feds-bundy-family-supporters-on-verge-of-massacre-of-epic-proportions-2950842.html)

May 5, 2014
The Pete Santilli Show

As I begin to write this article, I'm asking myself, "why am I having to intervene in an attempt to saves lives? Because our system is so disgustingly corrupt and broken that we can't even get law enforcement to do anything more than protect their pensions and salaries."

Let's cut right to the chase, but before I begin, let me be clear that my objective in this writing is to appeal to everyone's compassion and roll the dice on the possibility that someone in authority will push the "pause" button; breathe and take a step towards preventing the possibility of a tragic outcome.

In order to do that, we need to set aside the section of your mainstream-media-filled-mind and think about the following facts:

1) Cliven Bundy and his family have been ranchers and his family has been grazing cattle on land which Harry Reid & his cronies want since 1877.

2) A court order was fraudulently obtained in the early 90's, but here's the kicker: the BLM never enforced the court order when they were supposed to.  After five years of Cliven telling them to go to hell, if the BLM did not take any action, essentially Cliven Bundy and his family are legally entitled to all 600,000 plus acres outright.

I will say it again: Cliven Bundy is now the legal owner of the land through something called "prescriptive easement".

The BLM had their chance to enforce the court order back in the 90's; and maybe the Bundy Ranch Crisis would have occurred back then; but the Bundy family may now be the lucky recipients of the land due to the stupidity of the BLM and the Feds after the 5 year statute of limitations expired. Link: http://www.moeland.com/adverse.htm

3) In early April 2014, the BLM occupying force came to Bunkerville with more armament and new SUV's that would make Blackwater jealous.  In fact, we suspect that some of the people they suited up in BLM uniforms were actual corporate mercenaries with combat expertise.

Brand new SUV's; sniper rifles; surveillance equipment; cell towers; martial law signage and barricades.  All of the typical tools which the Special Agent in Charge Daniel P. Love has used in the past to kill people for a living.

4) On April 8, 2014, I was the first major radio show to interview Mr. Cliven Bundy after reading about his story on BeforeItsNews.com.  Mr. Bundy captivated me and our audience with the horrifying reality that his battle has been going on for 20+ years, and he's attempted unsuccessfully to pay his grazing fees to the State of Nevada.

I was also sincerely impressed that he was one of the few souls in America to tell the Federal government to stick it; and that he wanted to prove his point that the land located in Nevada actually belonged to the PEOPLE of Nevada.
Link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nTspLiE6jg

5) Right after the April 8th interview, I packed up and drove to the Bundy Ranch from Southern California.  On the afternoon of April 9th, as I was speaking to family members about what the BLM was doing on their land and property, particularly what the BLM was doing to the cattle which they owned and raised in their family since 1877, I was present to record/document the brutality of the BLM as they attempted to evade our investigation and possible citizens arrest for committing felonies.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA

6) That day I also spoke to local residents who felt as though their community was in a state of martial law.  The land they moved near was off limits, and if they dared to step off the road they travelled, they would be taken to federal prison as they did with Dave Bundy days previously.

Dave stepped off the road into the BLM seized dirt and took a picture.

20 BLM goons tackled; beat and then arrested him. They took him away to federal detention for days, and then was ultimately released like abused cattle in downtown Las Vegas.  The message sent to any other family member; Bunkerville community member or supporter was clear:  You must obey or be beaten and arrested.

7) The Bundy family has learned how to herd cattle.

They were horrified that the BLM was using low-flying helicopters to round up cattle, especially since they know that if you push the cattle too hard, they get stressed and die. Besides that, the family expressed to me that they were deeply concerned that baby calfs had been abandoned to die in the desert.

Mothers typically hide their young in the brush at the first sign of any danger, and once a helicopter arrives and whisks the herd away, the calves are left out in the open range without their mother.

They ultimately die.

8]  Prior to the original recording of the "Ranch Riot" video, the discussion I had with the family were of concern that the BLM was committing crimes.  They told me that the convoys coming out of the hills were comprised of SUV's with heavily armed guards, but most disturbing were backhoes and dump trucks.

The family suspected that the BLM was either killing and burying cattle, or that they were using heavy equipment to destroy the infrastructure which the family built up over the past 100 years. The original group of 100 or so family members and supporters went to meet the convoy as they came out of the hills.

The convoy was proceeding across private property, and we intended to meet the convoy and hold them stationary until a Sheriff could come out and investigate what was in the dump trucks and/or inspect the backhoes for evidence of biological matter associated with dead cattle.

9) We were operating in a law-enforcement capacity, and when they were directly confronted by unarmed concerned family members and supporters, they immediately began tasing, threatening and almost shooting us with their AR-15's.

Their conduct was well-documented and the entire world saw their brutality in full view on YouTube.  Because the video was the fastest spreading viral video in history, the main stream media was forced to cover this due to uncontrollable public outrage.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA

10) The Clark County Sheriff was called.

Nobody came.

The people were left to their own devices at the hands of a brutal, tyrannical BLM which was committing crimes outside of their court order mandate.

They did not have a court order to commit felonies by killing cattle or destroying infrastructure, and the people were demanding an investigation that the Sheriff refused to participate in.  We were prepared to make citizens' arrests if the Sheriff had only responded to our desperate calls for help when the BLM evaded our investigation and arrest.

The Clark County Sheriff abandoned the people he purports to protect, and unarmed people almost died. Call to 9-11:
Link: http://youtu.be/LhJ6H9vlEDA?t=7m35s

11) People from all around the country found out about this story, and became outraged that the Sheriff refused to intervene and protect.  The citizens militia was forced to take up arms to assist the peaceful protestors and family members, especially since the unarmed protestors were assaulted with tasers and rifles [and attack dogs-tfw]].

For days since I arrived, I personally met with BLM leadership as a "liason" between the peaceful family member protestors and the BLM gestapo.

For 3 consecutive days I documented my conversations with the BLM's Special Agent In Charge Daniel P. Love.  From the first moment I met him and his fellow federal agent goons who I presumed were FBI, CIA, BLM, DHS or any other agency which dresses their agent up like they do with civilian bermuda attire with neat little tough-guy guns, badges and holsters.

The conversation was always very cordial from my end, and I was especially interested in emphasizing that the people who were coming to town were peaceful; family members; constitutional; and pissed off at government tyranny.  That they had zero tolerance towards the federal governments attempts to occupy their land, steal their cattle, and brutalize the resistors, all under a fraudulently obtained "court order".

At one point after the "Ranch Riot", Daniel P. Love and his fellow criminals with badges surrounded me and threatened to arrest me for impeding his law enforcement convoy, even despite the fact that I informed him that we were investigating what we reasonably suspected were crimes.  His power and toxic arrogance were almost oozing out of the pores of his skin, and it was obvious that he actually believed he was doing everything "constitutionally".

I was so concerned about his reckless arrogance that I did not believe he should be carrying a gun around living creatures.

People's lives were in danger simply by his presence within 100 miles of Bundy Ranch, and the public didn't even know it.  All I could do was document the conversations, and then have him jailed, convicted and executed for his negligence if anyone was assassinated under his command.
Link: http://youtu.be/LhJ6H9vlEDA?t=7m35s

13) On April 11th, I went to Daniel P. Love for what I knew was my last contact with him.  Although I found him to be such an idiot for making the statements he made to me in the days prior, I sincerely wanted to appeal to his compassion, and possibly break through and disarm what I believed to be a human ticking time bomb.

I was very focused on conveying the following message:  The people who have come here are families; women; children; determined; and will not negotiate for anything which gives up their God given freedoms.

I told him that he should consider and direct to his staff that they have an opportunity — and that the moment I was describing would certainly come; that the people would come unarmed and determined to free the land; free the cattle, and ask them to leave —- he should take the opportunity to consider that the people he would be confronted by are peaceful and constitutional, and he and his people should stand down in favor of the U.S. Constitution & humans exercising their Constitutional rights.

His response is chillingly clear in the audio.

He said, "that ain't gonna happen, and you better have more people than you do now, because we have enough guys to have you all rounded up and arrested." 
Link:  http://guerillamedianetwork.com/released-more-secret-audio-of-blm-special-agent-in-charge-daniel-p-love-transcript/

14) On the morning of April 12th, the Sheriff and Cliven Bundy met before thousands of Bundy Ranch supporters who were backed up by the citizens' militia.  The militia was forced to take up this matter because it wasn't until that moment that anyone from the Sheriff's office stepped foot on Bundy Ranch property.

The Sheriff was told to address Mr. Bundy in front of the people who were put in harm's way by his negligence. The Sheriff cowardly addressed the crowd by telling the lie that the BLM was standing down, would cease operations, and that the matter was resolved.

Mr. Bundy knew full well that the Sheriff was lying and he called his bluff. Mr. Bundy was concerned about safety of the citizens and asked the Sheriff to have their (BLM, et al) assault rifles taken from them within one hour.   See the 14:18 mark:  http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/46062778

15) After 55 minutes expired, I personally contacted 911 and demanded that a Sheriff representative come back to inform the people of what the outcome would be.  I was specific to let 911 know that this was a life or death emergency, and that we needed the Sheriff present immediately.

The Sheriff never responded.
See link:  http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/46065785

16) As a result of the Sheriff Douglas Gillespie's negligence and once again abandoned the people within his county, the people were left with no other alternative than to go release the cattle and ask that the BLM vacate the land.

The people were also abandoned, as they did not provide protection and security by intervening in between the peaceful protestors and the BLM.  The Sheriff had the Constitutional authority to ask the BLM to put down their weapons for safety reasons as well as submit to the will of the people by demanding they release the cattle and leave the land.  He did no such thing.  He abandoned his people and they were met by heavily armed BLM agents and other killing agents of the federal government.
Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj7h2W4H5TM

17) The peaceful protestors pushed forward, and despite the BLM's lethal threats and absence of Sheriff intervention, they prepared to die in their efforts of restoring their Constitutional rights.  The protestors were backed up by a disciplined citizens militia which intended to do one thing: protect the lives of the protestors.

The BLM knew they were outnumbered and outgunned — as every single federal agency needs to know —- and not one shot was fired.  The cattle were released and the BLM vacated the area, but unfortunately, they left with their assault rifles thanks to the negligence of the Sheriff.
LINK: (one of the most inspiring videos you will ever see) http://youtu.be/v8HTP7aGGcM

18) Americans were one trigger pull away from a bloody massacre.  The reason for dangerous set of circumstances we were all in was directly due to the negligence of the Sheriff himself.

For that, we believe he should go to jail and tried for treason, especially since he was siding with a man named Harry Reid who has sold U.S. interests to a foreign entity.  The Sheriff has personally aligned himself with a foreign communist government through his allegiance to Harry Reid, and we believe he has committed treason against the people of the USA.

It is not only clear, but it has become a present danger if left unchecked.

19) During the standoff, I personally witnessed LV Metro PD and State Troopers directing traffic on the 15 freeway, and doing their best not to escalate the situation.  Although their superior authorities were negligent, they were doing their best not to enflame the volatile standoff.  Fortunately it ended well, and none of them were hurt. In fact, their Constitutional interests were served as well, and some of them actually gave thanks.

19) After the standoff, the media propaganda war ensued.  It was very obvious that what I have personally described as the "state run media" was in full swing — softening the minds on the battlefield so as to incrementally brainwash the public to begin accepting the reality that they will one day soon retaliate for the standoff.

In order to accomplish this goal, the Feds could not come back within hours with armored vehicles, drones and guns, they had to brainwash everyone around the country into believing that the people they will one day kill soon are "racists", "militants", "radicals", "domestic terrorists".

This military tactic has not only been effective in sucking trillions from the populous for foreign wars, the USA has a very well documented pattern of doing the same to the families they set out to kill in WACO and Rudy Ridge.  It takes time to get the public fully brainwashed, and they needed time to let the media do their dirty, covert deeds on the masses.

Everyone on both sides of the political spectrum will assist in the fight, but ultimately, the people will consume themselves in social media combat, and when the time is right, the televised murders of the Bundy family and their militant, racist, terrorist supporters will then seem justified.

It takes time, and if they could also get the President of the USA to chime in on the racist narrative, maybe then the deal could be sealed on destroying popular support and outrage for the previously described tragedy I listed above.

20) On April 30th, the propaganda war took a very dark and murderous turn.  The Assistant Sheriff Joe Lombardo, as well as token black victim of the "negro" comment LV Metro PD Sgt Tom Jenkins went to the state-run airwaves to lie.

In the same fashion they typically lie to cover up numerous crimes in Vegas, they displayed some of the most disgusting methods of covert cover-up by using the media we have ever seen — all likely in favor of them receiving personal benefit and favor from their master Harry Reid.
Watch this entire video:  http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25396688/i-team-police-say-bundy-ranch-protesters-not-off-the-hook

21) I met Lombardo in the median during the standoff, and I asked him to be Constitutional and stand down in favor of peace and safety.  Moments before bullets were potentially about to fly, his response was:  "...we're talkin about cattle, not human beings....!!!!!".

Lombardo displayed exactly where his head was at, and it was clearly far from reality or near compassion towards the humans he should have been thinking about protecting.

What was in his mind could have cost lives because he say the stand off to be about cattle & nothing to do with protecting our God-given rights.  (see the 3:55 mark of this video when I approached Lombardo)
Link http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25396688/i-team-police-say-bundy-ranch-protesters-not-off-the-hook

22) The "token black guy" which the LV Metro PD propped up and exploited to support their previously fabricated racists narrative — Sgt Tom Jenkins — he was not even in the line of fire.

Not even close.

The only thing dangerous which happened near him was when I walked up to him in the median as he was acting as a traffic cop and he was faced by someone like myself who was Constitutionally determined to make sure he chose the right side; in favor of peace, safety and Constitutionality. He never received any training for how to deal with someone like me and both parties live.

He was never told how to submit to the authority and will of the people, and I am certain he didn't have the mental capacity to accept it. His only training and instinct is to kill people like us, and use every method to justify doing so, even if it means making stuff up.

The facts as I personally know and documented them: Sgt Tom Jenkins was a traffic cop that day. He could not have been scared about anything more than having his toe run over by the traffic jam we caused. If he told his wife he was in danger, then I am here to tell her the truth.

Your husband was a traffic cop with a gun, and his only dangerous role is the one he played by turning his back on even his fellow blacks in America by lying and saying he was in danger.

He was not in danger, but he is obviously Las Vegas's newest Uncle Tom for pretending that the people who were there meant to harm him.

The citizen militia were there to protect the peaceful protestors, because he was too busy directing traffic at the behest of his boss.  For him to lie on camera, to pretend as though he is the victimized black cop who was in danger of being shot by "terrorists", is something that is simply not true.

He has chosen the wrong team.

Maybe someday he will wake up and realize that he is being used as a tool in the media propaganda war.   Link (regarding whistleblower discusses corruption in LV Metro PD) http://www.resurrecttherepublic.com/gordon-martines-exposes-major-corruption-in-clark-county-nevada/

23) Both Lombardo and [who they have made to be] Sgt. Uncle Tom Jenkins probably believe what they have said on TV.  Of course they have to believe it, so as to get totally pumped up for when they go in and kill the Bundy Family and their supporters.  That's exactly what they do to these minion police officers and Sheriff's, otherwise they feel guilty about what they are doing.

Ultimately, the truth comes out after everyone is dead, and they end up discovering they were used — and they commit suicide.  Not from the pressure —- From the shocking reality after they find out the truth.

Lombardo and Jenkins have a chance — BEFORE THEY KILL EVERYONE — to snap out of their brainwashing and try to save lives.

24) The whole narrative; from start to finish; is for the government to have absolute control for the benefit of people like Harry Reid and his friends.  Everything & everyone thereunder serves that narrative and goal.

Even law enforcement is brainwashed and convinced that what they are doing is right; constitutional; lawful, and if people die as a result, at least they were doing their job.

The reality is:  Nobody needs to die. Period.

Law enforcement needs to do some due diligence that we the people are doing and start investigating the real criminals who are using all of us as pawns in their scam.  Harry Reid, Rory Reid, China, rich billionaires with financial interests in the land, etc. are the criminals and terrorists.

25) Daniel P. Love of the BLM has already demonstrated a pattern of belief and action on his tainted beliefs that his job results in deaths and brutality towards humans.

He is directly responsible for the death of Dr. James Redd, and I believe Love has no compassion whatsoever, because if he did, he would put a gun to his face and pull the trigger in the same fashion that his informant did when he discovered the truth about what they did to Dr. Redd and his family.

Daniel Love not only lives for another day, but he lives among us dangerously as one of the men who has brutalized and almost killed the Bundy Family and their supporters, and is likely plotting for involvement in the retaliation that is being planned by the feds.

Daniel P. Love wants one of the little trophy token atta-boys they give murderous agent for a mission accomplished when people like Dr. Redd die under his command and authority.

Jay Redd is now offering to share all of his evidence which is now being heard in court with the Bundy Family.  The evidence is overwhelming and will come to haunt the BLM and especially Daniel P. Love https://www.facebook.com/guerillamedia/posts/518955118215689?stream_ref=10

26) There is indisputable, factual evidence which exists proving that the BLM under Daniel P. Love has committed crimes in the Bundy Crisis.  A Judge must issue a restraining order against him personally until a full investigation is completed and he is indicted; jailed; tried; convicted and executed for betraying the American people for a living.  Not just against the Bundy Family, but throughout his entire career.

There is a 100% certainty that this evidence will prove this statement, and Daniel P. Love should not be allowed to help kill the Bundy Family and their supporters.  If any individual in law enforcement kills anyone related to the Bundy crisis, they should suffer the ultimate legal penalty for their negligence at the hands of the American people.

27) The Feds have told the media that they intend to "move on the Bundy's", but they want to wait even a couple months for things to "die down"....obviously so that they can "die-up" or kill everyone in their path towards serving China, Harry Reid and their cronies.

I will publicly document my intentions well in advance.  If any of you in law enforcement elect to "move on the Bundy's" before you complete a thorough investigation on Sheriff Gillespie, the BLM, Daniel P. Love, Harry Reid, Rory Reid, Chinese companies and investors, as well as others with financial interests in violation of all of our Constitutional rights, then I want you to please reconsider what you are about to do here.

You will NOT get away with another WACO or Ruby Ridge, and I will spend every waking moment exposing the truth about what you have done and seemingly are preparing to do by betraying our country and our people.

28) Saving lives is extremely simple, the federal government must be restrained from doing ANYTHING whatsoever to the Bundy Family or their supporters before a full public hearing is conducted.

Each of us should ask for a formal injunction by a Constitutional court to prohibit the government from doing anything to the Bundy's and their supporters — INCLUDING THE CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED MILITIA — before a formal investigation is completed which includes the top of the power structure.  There is 100% proof which cannot be ignored, covered up, concealed, etc.

You cannot even kill every one of us and have this information kept from the public; I will stake my life on this and my personal decision is made.  The decision is now in the hands of local Sheriff's and Judges to do the right thing and not one life has to be taken.

STOP the government from "moving on the Bundy's".

29) Stop relying upon the "FBI" and deferring to the BLM because they are federal authorities.  The FBI is one of the most corrupt organizations on the planet earth, and if any of you question that, please sit down with me and I will prove it to you with facts.

The BLM has committed crimes in the Bundy crisis, and there is overwhelming evidence that they will do to the Bundy Family what they did to Dr. James Redd.

This is not speculation or conspiracy theory.  These are facts which will be exposed with or without cooperation from so-called law enforcement.


We The People want justice, and none of you are above it or immune from it because you have a badge. The only thing the FBI should be doing is conducting an internal investigation to find out who was in charge of covering up the JFK assassination, Oklahoma City Bombing, WACO, Ruby Ridge, TWA Flight 800, 9-11, Boston Marathon Bombing and Benghazi.

Once they have a truthful report provided to the American public about those crimes, then maybe we will consider them credible in the Bundy Ranch crisis.  If any of you in law enforcement thinks this claim is radical or inaccurate, then it proves my point that you are all dangerously brainwashed and it's time to snap the hell out of it so you can live through what is absolutely coming when the truth is exposed.

30) The entire event was concocted by a powerful, gluttonous entity.  Do I know who they are?  Not exactly, but I am smart enough to know that if we get some help, the investigation will reveal who they are.  Killing people before that investigation is conducted is called murder.

Do you want to become a murderer, or an American hero you are now only pretending to be?  The media propaganda is overwhelmingly obvious; from the "tax dodger" story to "domestic terrorist", "racist", etc.

Every single technique being employed in the Bundy Ranch Crisis is exactly what they did in WACO, and today we now know from the investigations after WACO that this is a statement of fact.  WACO was a crime perpetrated by the federal government against people who we now have sworn testimony before Congress who were nothing they described them to be.

WACO Davidians were all burned, shot and executed in the same exact fashion the Bundy's are about to be — after many weeks and months of propagandization and public demonization.  It allows the public to accept the reality of their murders if they at least have been brainwashed to believe that the Bundy's deserved it.

STOP and think about what is happening.

They are literally trying to justify what they eventually want to do to a bunch of beautiful people — kill them.

31) If any of you "move" on the Bundy's, there is a 100% certainty people there will die.

Millions of people know the truth, and you will likely set off the second American Revolution.  Those who consider this a threat are too brainwashed to recognize that people are waking up to the truths I have detailed in this article.

If you are in law enforcement and think this is a radical concept; please know that you brainwashed to believe this.  You are conditioned not to seek the facts about the FBI, WACO, etc.  You are robotized to kill people like us who know what is best for our country — people who will lay our lives on the line to defend it from the brainwashed police state.

32) There are people who have been physically harmed. Dave Bundy, Margaret Bundy and Ammon Bundy.  Please help them get a restraining order to prevent the government from killing people before justice can be served, and the investigation can be completed.  Lives are imminently in danger.  Please save them by stopping the deadly advancement towards the Bundy Family.

33) By the Feds telling the media they are going to act, that can be translated to one thing:  MANY MANY PEOPLE WILL DIE.

There is no negotiating away the truth.  The truth will set us free and a massive raid it will not stop the truth from coming forward.  Someone in authority needs to be the hero and stop this potential massacre. Step forward. Be brave and realize that there are millions of us like myself who are absolutely determined  take a stand so that future generations — even your family's future generations — can be free from what is happening to our country and people.

Are you going to choose to ally with the system we are about to crush, or are you going to become a leader in the new one which will emerge as a result?  If it's money you seek, there is plenty of money available to those who choose the side of the U.S. Constitution, liberty, freedom and absolute protection of our God given rights.

Choose to be the brave hero.

Set down your badge and pick up the U.S. Constitution.

Raise the muzzle of your weapon and lawfully point it with us in defense of our domestic enemies.

We know who they are.

If you haven't figured out who they are, then stick around and you will see.  We are going after them with truth and we will not stop until our nation is defended from them.

No matter what your political persuasion, whether or not you think Mr. Cliven Bindy is or isn't a racist, whether or not you beleive we are all "terrorists", or whether or not you think Harry Reid is a man of the people or a criminal.

One thing we can all agree on is that a full public investigation before any action is taken will save lives.

This is indisputable, and no bias matters.  Anyone who disagrees with that and moves forward against the Bundy's and their supporters could be guilty of mass murder.

Semper Fi & God Bless Us All,
Pete Santilli
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 09, 2014, 07:20:01 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfbvLn87ZI

Shocking New Video Of Destruction After Standoff At Bundy Ranch - The Kelly File - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfbvLn87ZI)

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Elvis Hendrix on May 09, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
Wow, I've never seen Fox cover something like this in such a manner.
Then again there's never been something like this.
Rise like lions.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 09, 2014, 07:47:42 PM

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/armed_bundy_supporter.jpg)

FBI investigating Bundy supporters (http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/report-fbi-investigating-bundy-supporters/?cat_orig=us)

Claims weapons were pointed at federal officers triggers criminal investigation

8 May 2014

The FBI has launched a formal criminal investigation into the events surrounding last months standoff between the Bureau of Land Management and Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy.

Agents have been interviewing BLM agents and law-enforcement officers who had been onsite, focusing on charges Bundy supporters and militia members who joined them pointed weapons at the authorities and made threats on their lives, reports KLAS-TV, Las Vegas.

FBI agents have interviewed Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillispie, Assistant Sheriff Joe Lombardo and a squad of Metro police officers who served as a buffer between Bundy's supporters and the BLM forces. A second squad is to be interviewed this week.

"The federal authorities are conducting an investigation and I am pretty confident it is going to go into the future," said Lombardo, who was interviewed by the FBI earlier this week.

Asked if there would be consequences for somebody recorded on video tape or a news camera pointing a gun at a Metro officer or a federal ranger, Lombardo said yes.

"There is definitely going to be consequences, definitely. That is unacceptable behavior. If we let it go, it would continue into the future," he said.

Sheriff Gillispie confirmed he was asked what he observed, but declined to give details.

KLAS reported earlier that Metro members claimed they had feared for their lives because of so many armed supporters standing with the Bundys, who had "pointed weapons at officers, taunted them, told them they should be ready to die."

"When we first got out there and made a left to divide I-15, that is all you saw. You saw kids and women and horses in the backdrop and then men with guns, laying on the ground, in the back of pickup trucks. We're going, 'Wow, this would never happen in Las Vegas,' But it was there. That is not a rumor. It is reality and I saw it with my own eyes," said Metro Police Sgt. Tom Jenkins, who has been interviewed by the FBI.

Bundy supporters have insisted in emails and calls to KLAS that no one in the crowd pointed weapons at BLM or Metro officers and that BLM rangers were the ones pointing guns at them.

WND reported last week that Bundy's supporters have filed a long list of complaints with police about the behavior of federal BLM agents – essentially accusing the government of thuggery.

Government agents blocked roads, loosed attack dogs, threatened people and pointed weapons and even harassed photographers, Bundy supporters alleged, according to an AP report about the complaints.

But Bundy told WND that he wasn't there to tell police – or supporters – what they need to be doing, he was just trying to assess damage to his ranch and cattle herd from the partial roundup, and move forward.

Bundy said he and his wife didn't file the complaints with the Las Vegas police, but he knew some of those supporting him did visit with officers to raise about 40 complaints over BLM activities.

Associated Press reported the complaints against the federal officers, which were being investigated, were filed by three of Bundy's sons and about a dozen other people.

He said he hasn't heard yet from the federal government about any of the disputed issues.

Actually, he told WND, he has gotten a couple of certified letters, but hasn't opened them, saying he's going to "give them to my attorney."

At the time, Metro Police Sgt. Tom Jenkins had already made statements to the press indicating he had feared a situation could have developed "that would have left a lot of dead officers," but Bundy's assessment seemed to minimize the risk faced by the police.

Bundy told WND, "They kept themselves pretty safe."

He said the only time he really noticed them was when they formed a barrier so BLM rangers could depart.

Bundy said it would be really nice if those certified letters were apologies for the damage to his operation.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 12:44:33 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSNaNL3Gp0

Patriots At Bundy Ranch Being Droned - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSNaNL3Gp0)

@1:30 :"...drones capable of firing "heart-attack" guns at patriots..."

@ 2:55 "...they have cancer radiation rays that can be dispensed from drones..."
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 12:59:12 AM
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Hi,

Please make your way to Blanding Utah this Saturday May 10th 9AM to protest the BLM Closure of Recapture Canyon.

Blanding has been the site of many BLM overreach efforts, including the horrific BLM SWAT team raids that resulted in the deaths of three Blanding residents.

County Commissioner Phil Lyman has organized a peaceful ATV ride into "Recapture Canyon".  This Canyon was "temporarily" closed over 7 years ago by the BLM. 

You do not need an ATV to participate.  

We need to help the people of Blanding re-establish who is in control of the land. 

This is your next stand.  Will you be there to help them like you helped us?


From Commissioner Lyman:

"I apologize that the protest on May 10th is not perfectly defined. That is kind of the nature of a protest. The main thing is the 9:00 AM assembly at Centennial Park In Blanding Utah on May 10th." The Park is at 900 South 300 West (https://maps.google.com/maps?t=m&ll=37.6048168,-109.468032&z=13&q=900+S+300+W&output=classic&dg=ntvb).

At that meeting we will have information on the many trails on which people may ride legally. Also remember the tailgate social Friday night starting at 6:30 pm, also at Centennial Park. For my part, I plan (as of this writing) to come into Recapture from the North end. About two miles down the road you come to the BLM closure sign.

The road continues on from there in the closed area about a mile or 1.5 miles until you come to where the water pipeline leaves the canyon. At that point the trail starts to wind through thick willows. I expect to turn around at that point and drive back to the closure sign and head out of the Canyon on a trail going West.

That trail, which is legal and open, goes up on top of the Canyon. It is pretty steep, but if you have a 4 wheel drive machine or a horse, you should be fine.

Side-by-Sides are no problem on this open road. Once on top, there are many legal trails that head south. You can come back into town or keep going south until you get to a major gravel road known as Perkins Road.

This road marks the South Boundary of the closed area. When you get to that point you can head south down the creek bed and you will be on the historic trail which leads all the way the the San Juan River. About 10 miles down this trail you will come to the old Stone Ruins of the Shumway Homestead.

A few miles further and you will be on on Hwy 262. There are a lot of options for you to be 100% part of this very needed protest without riding on any closed trails. Thank you all for your strong support of local jurisdiction over local interests. I hope to see you on Saturday."

PLEASE make the trip to Blanding, we need to keep sending the message loud and clear wherever the BLM is illegally asserting its power.

Thank you,
-Carol




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PS - If you want to know more about the situation click HERE. (http://thepetroglyph.com/the-truth-about-the-recapture-protest/)

PPS - Here is the Map to the meet up location. Click Here. (https://maps.google.com/maps?t=m&ll=37.6048168,-109.468032&z=13&q=900+S+300+W&output=classic&dg=ntvb)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 01:07:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZByJ5z0LaLs

Can Our Government Problems be solved? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZByJ5z0LaLs)



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Describe the Proper Form of Government - Part 1 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRds0_71a8M)



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Describe the Proper Form of Government - Part 4 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U94A5SmTUOo)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 01:18:38 AM
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"You trained us, so have at it!"

Jerry DeLemus
True American Patriot (http://www.meetup.com/rochester-912-project/members/9270878/), IMHO
Semper Fi, Jerry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS7EoIFZcs8

12:40 Bundy Ranch: We Came Risking Never Coming Home Jerry DeLemus by NextNewsNetwork 20,351 views (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS7EoIFZcs8)

Published on Apr 15, 2014
In this Next News exclusive Stewart Rhodes speaks to Jerry DeLemus, one of the Marine Veterans who traveled over 3000 miles to defend the Bundy Ranch from Federal Tyranny in Nevada.

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The Bundy Ranch With James Yeager and Reid Henrichs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YyDTBm_puI)
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Oath Keepers Bundy Ranch Debrief - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HkSAewoESg)
Published on Apr 30, 2014
This is the official statement from the Oath Keepers regarding the Bundy Ranch Situation.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 01:53:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXzHj9MbKU

Exposed- BLM Contractors Abuse a Donkey NBC News 04/12/13 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXzHj9MbKU&)

Published on Apr 19, 2014

Here is the Video & Article Found @ NBC Website
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_ne...

Battle over burros
Criticism of roundups is not limited to wild horses. The BLM also annually removes "excess" wild burros from public lands, mainly in Arizona, Nevada and California.

In this video, wild burro advocates document "aggressive" roundup practices. As with horse roundups, the BLM defends the operations as humane and says such incidents are isolated and contrary to guidelines.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news...
BLM contractors Routinely Abuses a Donkey NBC News.

These sub Contracted Thugs the BLM are actually a sub-corporation of UNITED STATES INCORPORATED, a private foreign owned off-shore corporation since its last incorporation in 1925, copyrighted, trademarked and registered in Puerto Rico). Under the Reorganization Act of Washington District of Columbia, by it's own private business charter, neither the BLM, nor any other federal/corporate agency has lawful/legal authority, jurisdiction or interstate nexus within the 50 state geographical landmass.

BLM, is actually classified as an: "Agent of Foreign Principle", under the?intergovernmental Personnel Act. In other words, they don't represent the Constitutional Republic or the interests of the American People but rather, a foreign-owned principle i.e., the international banking/military corporate cartel of London City, England known as Crown Corporation as their supreme authority.

This has been openly admitted and exposed through Supreme Court cases since and even before 1938.

Please Contact and Help Support The Wild Horse Education
http://wildhorseeducation.org/

BLM Abuses of Wild Horses
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/n...
http://www.wildhorsepreservation.org/...
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/whbp...

Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/tex...

BLM Energy Page
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/ener...

Oregon Clear Cutting
http://org.salsalabs.com/o/1780/p/dia...
http://www.blm.gov/or/plans/rmpsweste...
http://kswild.org/get-involved/blm-pr...

Misuse of Funds
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/86...

The Truth About the BLM - Bundy Ranch Dispute Explained
BLM Selling Out America
http://usawatchdog.com/blm-selling-ou...

They developed Agenda 21 on purpose to make us SERFS (Slaves) so we're dependent on them so they can then Control Consumption !!
http://cnsnews.com/node/75388

The FEDERAL does not have jurisdiction to take fees from STATE LAND OWNERS , they would pay the state or county fees but why is the BLM asking for money? it is not federal land this media lie needs to stop. As for TAXES the federal working for the crown claims they OWN IT ALL, This opens up a BIG secret the fed doesn't want you to learn our money goes to Queen Elizabeth controls and has amended U.S. Social Security
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/queen.htm

Search::?BLM to kill hundreds of desert tortoises
https://www.google.com/#q=blm+to+kill...

Sun, August 25 2013 at 17:45
The U.S. Bureau of Land Management announced it will kill hundreds of threatened desert tortoises it's been caring for at a Nevada conservation facility. The slaughter is being blamed on a lack of funds by the agency.

http://www.kingsnake.com/blog/archive...

BLM killed hundreds of desert tortoises in 2013 as its conservation center ran out of money?http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport...?

Bureau of Land Management pdf
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/mediali...

If You are American you need to watch this.
The truth about the United States, law & YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP9ZK...

What BLM is Doing at The Bundy Ranch Nevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeDCe...

EXECUTIVE ORDER, NATIONAL DEFENSE RESOURCES PREPAREDNESS in Words
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-o...

Flood the White House and DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE INVESTIGATION OF THE BLM
Comments: 202-456-1111.
Switchboard: 202-456-1414.
TTY/TTD. Comments: 202-456-6213
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on May 10, 2014, 02:36:35 AM
Maybe they are the ones running area 51.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on May 10, 2014, 03:37:43 AM
Oh! WOW! Who is running this place anyways?

Quote

These sub Contracted Thugs the BLM are actually a sub-corporation of UNITED STATES INCORPORATED, a private foreign owned off-shore corporation since its last incorporation in 1925, copyrighted, trademarked and registered in Puerto Rico). Under the Reorganization Act of Washington District of Columbia, by it's own private business charter, neither the BLM, nor any other federal/corporate agency has lawful/legal authority, jurisdiction or interstate nexus within the 50 state geographical landmass.

BLM, is actually classified as an: "Agent of Foreign Principle", under the?intergovernmental Personnel Act. In other words, they don't represent the Constitutional Republic or the interests of the American People but rather, a foreign-owned principle i.e., the international banking/military corporate cartel of London City, England known as Crown Corporation as their supreme authority.

This has been openly admitted and exposed through Supreme Court cases since and even before 1938.


Since 1925? A few years!
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: burntheships on May 10, 2014, 04:35:02 AM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 10, 2014, 01:53:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXzHj9MbKU

Exposed- BLM Contractors Abuse a Donkey NBC News 04/12/13 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXXzHj9MbKU&)

Published on Apr 19, 2014


Thor,

Thank you for your diligence in this coverage.

The video you have posted speaks volumes
about the employees who are in that "agency".

I can not think them human after seeing that.

:'(

ETA: Found entire story from NBC
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/14/18248044-its-not-just-about-mustangs-the-battle-over-burros

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on May 11, 2014, 07:45:38 AM
Quote from: deuem on May 10, 2014, 03:37:43 AM
Oh! WOW! Who is running this place anyways?
 
Since 1925? A few years!

I have been saying that We have no governance of, for and by Us.  That what is controlling Us, with the reigns (reign) of money, is a corporation.  It does not have the Bill of Rights, and the original republic stands with all offices empty.  Few listened.

I vote for a solutocracy, M'self (Link for visitors: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5607.0 )

Hope the vid links are still good:


UNITED STATES THE CORPORATION:THE TRUTH FOX NEWS WILL NOT TELL YOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgyztsj7O6M

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgyztsj7O6M


USA is a Corporation, not a Country

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UajWQbXDblI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UajWQbXDblI


Corp. U.S. - the Columbia Organic Act of 1871

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/813840/posts


Government no longer, We are ruled by a corporation

http://expose1933.weebly.com/44-the-act-of-1871.html


District of Columbia Act of 1871 Defacto formed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPkauG6qE8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPkauG6qE8k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzmUuKd6ucM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzmUuKd6ucM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMMnJWExNU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMMnJWExNU
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 11, 2014, 11:04:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNMhlxmkshU

Pete Santilli With Tom Lacovara at Bundy Ranch - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNMhlxmkshU)

Published on May 4, 2014
Tom Lacovara website: http://ResurrectTheRepublic.com
Twitter: @TomLacovara
Podcast Download: http://petersantilli.com/feed/
GuerillaMediaNetwork.com http://ow.ly/o7pRT
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 11, 2014, 11:09:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1gJw8LFf4I

Obama's 50 Wounded Knees? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1gJw8LFf4I)

Published on Apr 20, 2014
Message to President Obama from Members of the Great Sioux Nation and many other Indigenous Relatives and Allies!
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 12, 2014, 12:53:40 AM
Mr. Bundy, don't hold your breath waiting for 'President' Obama to come a'riding to your rescue.

Take a look at this revelation.   :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sywLXEPdVNY

Chief Shares His Dream of President Obama - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sywLXEPdVNY)

Uploaded on Feb 23, 2011
Chief Golden Light Eagle shares his dream of President Obama.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 12, 2014, 08:58:12 PM
For your consideration:

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: deuem on May 13, 2014, 02:18:24 AM
I am glad they held back but I guess if there were shots fired the drones would have ended it in a few seconds and then there would be big trouble. Droning USA people on USA Tera firma. That would have made things much worse and country wide instantly. Glad they held off but very scared they got permission.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on May 13, 2014, 03:12:55 AM
I can personally guarantee droning usa citizens with weapons would be the end of this government.
But i would have to see it with my own eyes and smell and see the death .tv or yt would not convince me to look for revenge.to much propaganda in the media to risk my life over something possibly staged.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: robomont on May 13, 2014, 03:54:59 AM
That sounded kinda like bragging but the truth is some of the folks on here know the usa achilles heels but because this site is not secure at the level needed to discuss such options,it would suffice to say ,those weeknesses are known by the wise.ive lived all over the usa and have seen them.

This country could be brought to its knees in three days,in thirty days its possible to kill off ninety percent without a nuke or bullets.with just one guy.
And theres absolutely no way to stop it currently available.but now you have to live with that knowledge.
And that goes for almost any country.spend an hour thinking about it and its obvious.its through great patience that society exist.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 21, 2014, 10:00:38 PM
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http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/

Fellow rancher's viral letter explains so much about why ranchers support 'hero' Bundy.

With debate raging over whether the Bureau of Land Management is overstepping its authority in stopping rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle from grazing on public land, one of Bundy's neighbors offered to settle the question.

In an open letter, Bundy's neighbor, Kena Lytle Gloeckner, explained why ranchers are supporting Bundy.

Her letter, which has been posted on numerous blogs, said:

There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years. The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not.

What you people probably do not realize is that on every rancher's grazing permit it says the following: "You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due."

The "mandatory" terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc.

The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to. Every rancher must sign this "contract" agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment.

In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher's permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years.

As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%.

For those of you who are non-ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM.

Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay.

Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us.

He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away.

Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow – – not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land.

Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price.

If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand. Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are "suspended," but not removed.

Unfortunately, my family has thousands of "suspended" AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen.

This is the very thing that Clive Bundy singlehandedly took a stand against.

Thank you, Clive, from a rancher who considers you a hero.




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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on May 21, 2014, 10:22:45 PM

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From Google "BundyGate"   :P

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This is Zorgon's fav rag...:P

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Alex Bieniecki shows his "We The People" tattoo at a camp near Bunkerville Tuesday, April 15, 2014. (photo courtesy lasvegassun)



The world through militia eyes - Las Vegas Sun News (http://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/20/world-through-militia-eyes/)

[...]
As several militia members put it, they came to the Bundy ranch to prevent another Waco — the 1993 standoff between federal agents and David Koresh that left 76 men, women and children dead.

That incident helped spawn the modern militia, which is not an official force but a collection of armed citizens who believe the government is out to destroy the nation and enslave the American people.

So they came to the desert to protect Bundy.

They brought heavy weaponry — including a .50-caliber rifle that fires the same bullets that World War II fighter planes used to down enemy aircraft.

They brought night-vision goggles.

They brought their beliefs — some would call them delusions — that they are the last true patriots, fighting an oppressive government.

These are the extremists in what they say is a campaign to preserve American freedom and fight the federal bullies.

Bundy's fight provided the airtime for their message.[...]



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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2014, 03:17:58 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xueLR6-Dur0

'The Last Rancher' - Documentary (Trailer) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xueLR6-Dur0)


Published on May 26, 2014
This is a concept trailer we've created to raise awareness and educate people about our new project designed to raise many key issues facing America today. What happened this past spring in Nevada is an incredible story which needs telling. With your help, we hope to make it happen...

The Last Rancher Film by Patrick Henningsen - GoFundMe (http://www.gofundme.com/freestatefilms)

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Created by Patrick Henningsen on May 26, 2014
BUNKERVILLE, NV
Creative Arts, Music, Film

We're looking to raise at least $15,000 to fund both pre-production and location filming for our feature-length documentary film about the stand-off at the Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada.

We hope you enjoyed our short trailer, and sincerely hope it conveys our heart-felt and passionate approach to this project.

The provisional working title for this film is 'The Last Rancher', a 90 minute documentary film telling the inside story of this past spring's standoff at the Bundy Ranch. We believe this event is an important part of American history, one that has not only captured the attention of the national media, but also the imaginations of millions of people worldwide – it's an incredible story which we saw unfold and now it's time to assemble all the principle participants to retrace their steps and record their personal testimonies, opinions, feelings and emotions.

As soon as we begin to raise any funds, location shooting will begin ASAP. To get the project started off on the right foot, and to secure on-location film production as soon as possible, we have travel, accommodation, equipment, media and skilled professionals labor expenses – all of which are essential in the first legs of the project. We plan to shoot this in the highest quality possible, and have already secured a great Director of Photography, and are working closely with key participants from this event, as well as independent/citizen journalists who covered it closely. We'll need all the help we can get to make it all happen.   

After we are successful in this round of funding, we will produce another new high quality trailer, and move ahead to fund the biggest nut of the project – the post-production of the film, including editing, effects, original soundtrack, computer hardware, licensing, graphics, and adding any breaking updates to the story which might take place during the post-production phase, as well as acquiring any key major network and government footage which serves as documentation for this historic Bundy-BLM stand-off.

If fundrasing goes better than expected, we will use additional resources to extend the conversation to other regions - reaching out to other farmers, landowners and communities who've found themselves in a similar situation as the Bundy Ranch - to hear, and tell their stories too. We expect post-production to extend into autumn and we will shoot for a pre-release before Christmas 2014.

If all goes well, we plan to premier this film at least at one American and one European film festival, and release a shorter version of the film online (1 hr) to a wider audience, and the full feature-length on DVD. We also hope to air this documentary on TV if any channels express a serious interest in it.


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SUPPORTER APPRECIATION

- If you donate $25 or more to any round of funding for this project, you will receive a special DVD gift of the final production before the official scheduled release on DVD. How comprehensive the final DVD is (e.g. double disk plus extras, deleted scenes, interviews, etc.) depends on how well we do in our second and final round of funding.

- If you donate $100 or more you will appear on the film's production credits (tiers and titles TBA).

- If you donate $500 or more you are virtual production crew and we'll provide you with an official crew shirt and hat with film logo and 'crew' embroidered.

- If you donate $1,000 or more you are an 'Associate Producer' and will appear at this level on the film's production credits.

- If you donate $1,500 or more you are an 'Executive Producer' and will appear at this level on the film's production credits. Based on availability, we'll also arrange an interview with you about the Bundy Ranch event to be included on DVD feature.

This is well and truly a team effort. We hope to add more 'thank you' gifts to this as we hit each of our goals - so watch this space!

DOCUMENTARY SYNOPSIS

On April 12th, 2014 something historic and significant took place – but much of it was not covered by the mainstream media. Many of the central characters in this real life drama will have a chance to tell their story – including the Bundy family, ranchers, cowboys, protesters, law enforcement, elected representatives and local residents, as we explore events which led up to the crisis, followed by a minute by minute recounting of events on the day, and finally, reflections of events and how this connects to the lives of everyday citizens.

Alternative media also played a pivotal role in elevating this story to national status and we will also be interviewing a number of commentators and journalists who covered the story when it broke. We aim to do justice to this story and will leave no stone unturned, telling the full story to the best of our ability.

Thank you in advance - if you are able to donate this project! EVERY penny helps. If you're not able to donate on this round, we hope that you will be encouraged by our progress and meet us further down the road! Introduce your friends to our project by sharing our official website and share our pre-production trailer.

DIRECTOR/PRODUCER PROFILE

Writer and Director Patrick Henningsen is founder and associate editor of the news website 21st Century Wire (http://21stcenturywire.com/), a host on GMN (http://gmn.is/), and contributor to UK Column. He's an independent journalist, filmmaker and TV/radio commentator whose work appears globally online, on radio, in magazines, film and on TV. He is a strong advocate for independent media and free speech and dedicated to bringing as much information and insight on a wide range of issues to the widest possible audience.

Free State Films
freestatefilms.tv (http://www.gofundme.com/freestatefilms)
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 09, 2014, 11:24:56 PM

FOR THE RECORD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEX2eBGipdE

Bundy Ranch Federal Land Grab Motive Revealed - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEX2eBGipdE)

Published on Apr 11, 2014
Who is behind the Bundy Ranch Federal Assault?
Why are they targeting the Bundy Family?
Where is the mainstream media?
Why are they silent?
Gary Franchi and Mike Adams tackle these questions and reveal the truth behind the Federal Land grab.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Amaterasu on July 10, 2014, 07:53:12 PM
So...  What's going on now?  Surely They didn't just drop it and go home.  What has happened since the conflict with BLM subsided?
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: Littleenki on July 10, 2014, 09:06:20 PM
On topic in some odd way....
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/africa/police-officer-shoots-aggressive-tortoise-dead-30419096.html

Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 03, 2015, 10:34:25 PM
Greetings:

For those who might not been as involved as some of us during the actual event, here is an EXCELLENT photo montage
of the BundyGate encounter - set to great music! What more can one ask for?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRK_TMaWJ0Y

Tyranny to Victory: a Bundy Ranch Montage - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRK_TMaWJ0Y)

Published on Apr 18, 2014
A photo montage of images captured by Shannon Bushman of the complete Bundy Ranch timeline of events that transpired from the protests at the cattle auction, to the standoff, to the cattle release.
Music donated by http://JordanPageMusic.com
Please support artists who love Liberty.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: space otter on January 03, 2016, 04:13:05 PM

I couldn't believe the headline..


A Militia Has Taken Over A Federal Building In Oregon


01/02/2016 10:33 pm ET | Updated 1 hour ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oregon-ranchers-occupy-national-wildlife-refuge_56888a61e4b0b958f65be382

BURNS, Ore. (AP) — A protest in support of Oregon ranchers facing jail time for arson was followed by an occupation of a building at a national wildlife refuge led by members of a family previously involved in a showdown with the federal government.

Ammon Bundy — the son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a standoff with the government over grazing rights — told The Oregonian on Saturday that he and two of his brothers were among a group of dozens of people occupying the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page asking for militia members to come help him. He said "this is not a time to stand down. It's a time to stand up and come to Harney County," where Burns is located. Below the video is this statement: "(asterisk)(asterisk)ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED."

In an interview with reporters late Saturday night that was posted on Facebook, Bundy said he and others are occupying the building because "the people have been abused long enough."

"I feel we are in a situation where if we do not do something, if we do not take a hard stand, we'll be in a position where we'll be no longer able to do so," he said.

Bundy said the group planned to stay at the refuge indefinitely. "We're planning on staying here for years, absolutely," Ammon Bundy said. "This is not a decision we've made at the last minute."

tweet here with pic

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward told people to stay away from the building as authorities work to defuse the situation, the Oregonian reported (http://is.gd/bK7d4E).

"A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation," Ward said in a statement.

An Idaho militia leader who helped organize the earlier march said he knew nothing about activities after a parade of militia members and local residents in Burns walked past the sheriff's office and the home of Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son Steven.

Beth Anne Steele, an FBI spokeswoman in Portland, told The Associated Press the agency was aware of the situation at the national wildlife refuge. She made no further comment.

Some local residents feared the Saturday rally would involve more than speeches, flags and marching. But the only real additions to that list seemed to be songs, flowers and pennies.

As marchers reached the courthouse, they tossed hundreds of pennies at the locked door. Their message: civilians were buying back their government. After the march passed, two girls swooped in to scavenge the pennies.

another tweet here

Ammon Bundy's father, Cliven Bundy, told Oregon Public Broadcasting on Saturday night that he had nothing to do with the takeover of the building.

Bundy said his son felt obligated to intervene on behalf of the Hammonds.

"That's not exactly what I thought should happen, but I didn't know what to do," he said. "You know, if the Hammonds wouldn't stand, if the sheriff didn't stand, then, you know, the people had to do something. And I guess this is what they did decide to do. I wasn't in on that."

His son Ammon told him they are committed to staying in the building, Cliven Bundy told Oregon Public Broadcasting.

"He told me that they were there for the long run. I guess they figured they're going to be there for whatever time it takes_and I don't know what that means," Cliven Bundy said. "I asked him, 'Well how long can ya, how long you going to stand out there?' He just told me it was for long term."

A few blocks away, Hammond and his wife, Susan, greeted marchers, who planted flower bouquets in the snow. They sang some songs, Hammond said a few words, and the protesters marched back to their cars.

Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to peacefully report to prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge.

Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires.

The two were convicted of the arsons three years ago and served time — the father three months, the son one year. But a judge ruled their terms were too short under federal law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each.

The decision has generated controversy in a remote part of the state.

In particular, the Hammonds' new sentences touched a nerve with far right groups who repudiate federal authority.

Ammon Bundy and a handful of militiamen from other states arrived last month in Burns, some 60 miles from the Hammond ranch.

In an email to supporters, Ammon Bundy criticized the U.S. government for a failed legal process.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 04, 2016, 01:42:01 AM
Check out the perspective of the local newspaper:
"The strangers carrying the whisper of danger arrived..."


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Ryan Payne, an Army veteran and electrician, practices with his gun outside his Montana home in 2014. He recently moved to Harney County in Oregon to join other militiamen to protest the imprisonment of two prominent ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son Steven. Payne and others want a local sanctuary created to shield the men from surrendering for federal prison, a move the Hammonds don't support. (Cathrine L. Walters, Special to The Oregonian/OregonLive)

Militiamen Gather To Prevent Jailing Of Ranchers (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/12/militiamen_ranchers_in_showdow.html)

30 December 2015
By Les Zaitz | The Oregonian/OregonLive

BURNS – The strangers carrying the whisper of danger arrived in the vast territory of the Harney Basin just before the holidays.

Ammon Bundy once helped his father repulse the government in an armed showdown on a Nevada desert. He was Tasered for his effort.

Ryan Payne, an electrician from Montana, joined that same standoff and boasted of organizing civilians into sniper squads that drew a bead on federal agents.
And not long ago, Jon Ritzheimer worried the FBI with his threatening rants against Muslims in Arizona and elsewhere, according to press reports.

Now, the men say, they are in Burns to help Dwight and Steven Hammond.

The Hammonds are father and son ranchers, due to report to federal prison on Monday. They were convicted in 2012 of arson for lighting public land on fire adjacent to their ranch land south of Burns. They have been imprisoned once and must return for an additional term after federal appellate judges said they had been illegally sentenced the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m2UpdOxmp0
AMERICA STAND NOW FOR THE CONSTITUTION BECAUSE IT MATTERS. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m2UpdOxmp0)

Self-styled patriots and militiamen gathering in Burns don't want that to happen, declaring the Hammonds' imprisonment illegal under the U.S. Constitution.

They have latched on to the Hammonds as their latest cause to stand against the federal government.

"I am here now trying to empower and motivate the people of this community to take a stand against tyranny and show them that I will gladly stand with them," Ritzheimer said.

The Hammonds don't want to be part of the outsiders' cause, and neither do many in Harney County.

But that hasn't stopped the strangers from summoning help from militia groups across the country. They are vague about their intention and their plans, unsettling the community and putting law enforcement on edge. The militia plan a rally and a parade on Saturday, circling the county courthouse that houses the sheriff's office.

The militia members have been insisting that Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward create a sanctuary so the Hammonds will be immune from surrendering. Ward met with the militiamen and rejected that demand. The militia has since labeled him an "enemy of the people." Ward said he has received emailed death threats among thousands of messages from across the country regarding the Hammonds. [...]
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 04, 2016, 02:56:05 AM
Yikes!
Check out the perspective of Rolling Stone Magazine:

"Dozens of white, armed American militants have gathered in the state to take a stand against government "tyranny.""

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Cliven Bundy's son, Ammon — pictured here, in 2014 — appears to be leading the takeover of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. (George Frey/Getty)


WTF Is Happening in the Oregon Militia Standoff, Explained | Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/wtf-is-happening-in-the-oregon-militia-standoff-explained-20160103)

BY TIM DICKINSON
January 3, 2016

On Saturday night, dozens of white, armed American militants stormed a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon seeking to take a "hard stand" against federal government "tyranny." It's a wild story. Here's what you need to know.

Q: Where is this?
A: The building seized by the militants is at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge (http://www.fws.gov/refuge/malheur/) — a remote, marshy oasis in Oregon's high desert famed for its spectacular migratory bird populations. The standoff is in the remote southeast of the state — far closer to the Nevada line (124 miles) and Boise, Idaho (217 miles), than to Portland (305 miles). The closest city is Burns, Oregon, population 2,800, 30 miles to the north.

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Burns, OR - 43.600070,-119.053400

Q: What sparked the militia takeover?
A: The answer here is complicated. In short, the militants are outraged about a mandatory minimum sentence received for arson by a local rancher and his son.

The ranchers, Dwight Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son Steve, 43, were convicted of federal arson charges, stemming from a pair or fires on federal land near their ranch. The first was reportedly set in 2001 to cover up their illegal poaching of a deer on government property. It burned 139 acres.

The second was reportedly set in 2006 as a defensive measure, to protect the ranch from an approaching lightning-sparked wildfire. That arson reportedly endangered volunteer firefighters camped nearby. The government would seek $1 million in damages. (For a deep dive of the backstory read this piece in The Oregonian (http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/12/ranchers_fight_with_feds_spark.html#incart_story_package).)

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Members of the Hammond family post outside a ranch building on their property in Harney County in this undated photo. Steven Hammond, second from left, and his father, Dwight Hammond Jr., center, are due to report to federal prison on Monday, Jan. 4, 2016, to serve additional time for their conviction for arson.

Q: So some Oregon ranchers got busted for arson. Where's the tyranny?
A: The ranchers' case became a cause celebre in the patriot/militia movement because the pair were sentenced for their arson crimes under a provision of a law called the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-104publ132/pdf/PLAW-104publ132.pdf).

And they were oddly sentenced twice.

The federal law in question doesn't just deal with terrorism. It created a five-year mandatory-minimum sentence for arson on federal land: "Whoever maliciously damages or destroys... by means of fire...any...real property...owned or possessed by...the United States...shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years..."

The first federal judge to handle the case concluded that the mandatory sentence was too stiff and gave the pair far lighter sentences, which they served. But the U.S. attorney in the case called foul; the federal government took the rare step of appealing the sentence. In October 2015, the Ninth Circuit imposed the mandatory minimum, ruling that: "given the seriousness of arson (http://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison), a five-year sentence is not grossly disproportionate to the offense." The ranchers are due back in federal prison Monday to serve out their five years each.

But this odd re-sentencing, under a statute that makes it sound like the cattlemen were being prosecuted for terrorism, inflamed the paranoid passions of the anti-government patriot and militia movements, and brought the militants to Burns for a rally on Saturday.

Q: The Bundys are involved in this, aren't they?
A: Yup. Tensions between Western ranchers and the federal government have been running at a fever pitch since an armed standoff between supporters of Cliven Bundy and the federal Bureau of Land Management.

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(TFW NOTE) Notice how CNN infers that Cliven Bundy is 'an armed protester occupying Federal land'...same old, same old)

Recall that Bundy does not recognize the claim of the federal government to the land that his cattle roam in Nevada. He owes more than $1 million in unpaid grazing fees and fines. The feds briefly seized his cattle back in 2014, leading to an armed standoff that the feds chose to de-escalate rather than risk provoking another deadly showdown like occurred at Waco or Ruby Ridge in the 1990s.

Q: So Cliven Bundy is in Oregon?
A: No, but at least two of his sons are. Ammon Bundy appears to be leading the takeover. In a video posted to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/sarah.d.sandell/videos/1112061878804653/), he declares: "We have basically taken over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge.

And this will become a base place for patriots from all over the country to come and be housed here and to live here. And we're planning on staying here for several years." Calling his group "the point of the spear," Ammon Bundy called on like-minded militants to "bring your arms."

Q: What do the militants want??
A: In a phone in interview with The Oregonian, another Bundy son, Ryan, laid out the militants' demands: that the Hammonds be released and that the surrounding federal lands be ceded to local control.

"The best possible outcome is that the ranchers that have been kicked out of the area... will come back and reclaim their land, and the wildlife refuge will be shut down forever and the federal government will relinquish such control," Ryan Bundy said.

He added, "What we're doing is not rebellious. What we're doing is in accordance with the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land."

Q: Has the federal government reacted to this latest Bundy provocation?
A: Not yet.
Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on January 04, 2016, 04:30:52 AM
Thank you, Space Otter for the hat tip here on Pegasus.

The separate thread from BundyGate is now here:
Militias take over Eastern Oregon refuge building during protest, standoff (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8968.msg120800#msg120800)

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Title: Re: Fed Showdown In Nevada Over Desert Tortoise
Post by: thorfourwinds on March 08, 2016, 11:48:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uch1qHPWYQM

Judge Jeanine Connects the Dots of the Bundy Ranch Invasion to 'Dirty Harry' Reid - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uch1qHPWYQM)