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Where On Earth Are NASA's Rovers Sending Pictures From? Devon Island, Canada.

Are the Mars Images also another NASA  Hoax ?


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Check Article for more images and videos..

http://www.anonews.co/nasa-mars-hoax/

There is an increasing number of people who believe that NASA's rovers never left the Earth in the first place, and the pictures they are allegedly sending back from Mars are taken in remote areas of our planet.

But if NASA's rovers are not on Mars, then where exactly are they?

First of all, evidence suggests that the pictures that we see on NASA's website are not even taken by the Curiosity and Opportunity rovers.



It is very possible that by now, both rovers are stored in a hangar, somewhere at NASA's JPL headquarters, and have been replaced by their smaller and more practical baby brothers.

Sure, if needed, they can always be taken out for a spin, but other than that, the smaller rovers are more convenient to work with.

One of the known locations where NASA is playing around with these small rovers is Devon Island, Canada.

(It's worth noting that Devon Island is "the largest uninhabited island on Earth," which seems like a pretty good location for a fake Martian photo shoot).

Just take a look at these pictures:

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NASA base in Devon Island, Canada — even without the color filters, it's strikingly similar to Mars, isn't it?

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NASA's "baby rovers" taking pictures in Devon Island, Canada

Sure, one could think NASA just needed a place where they can simulate the conditions on Mars, but what's the point of simulating those conditions with miniature rovers, that look and work almost nothing like their bigger brothers?

Their shape, size and weight are different and the wheels are worlds apart. It's really impossible to make even remotely accurate tests.

They also don't have the on board laboratories, so what's there to simulate? Except for taking pictures, the "baby rovers" look useless.

Check out the following video for further evidence (please notice the identical terrain as that from NASA's pictures):



(The video says Greenland, but it's in fact Devon Island, Canada)

The cameras mounted on the "baby rovers" have color filters already applied, but the final images — those that we get to download from NASA's website — are color-corrected even further, until they get that fake, reddish color that is so familiar to us.

We have been tricked into believing the myth that Mars is the "red planet" (even though all amateur telescope pictures show otherwise), so NASA is now only perpetuating the lie.

The following is an amateur telescope picture of Mars taken on 2014, 03, 21 (source):

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As you can clearly see for yourself, Mars is not read. It's light and dark brown, similar to what Earth would look like without all the water and vegetation. Here are more amateur pictures of Mars:

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The following is an image compilation from Antonio Cidadao (1999):

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Please notice that Mars has clouds and a blue atmosphere, very similar to that of our planet (source for the above and below images here — where you can see more examples of Mars' true colors):

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Now I'm not saying that we could breath on Mars like we do on Earth, but where are the blue skies in NASA's pictures? That reddish sorry excuse of an atmosphere is obviously fake.

NASA admitted on numerous occasions to alter the colors of their pictures before posting them online, so that they look more like what we would see, if we were on Mars.

Here's something straight from NASA's website:

"Getting the colors right is not an exact science," says Bell. "Giving an approximate view of what we'd see if we were there involves an artistic, visionary element as well – after all, no one's ever been there before." However, great pains are taken to be as accurate as possible, short of going there ourselves.

To give people a sense of being on Mars, scientists combine views through telescopes, data from past Mars missions, and new information from the current mission to create a color-balanced, uniform scene. Color-corrected mosaics simulate the view a person would see if all the images in the mosaic were taken on the same day, at the same moment.

In addition, the rovers can take three pictures in a row of the same surface area on Mars using three different primary color filters – red, green, and blue – to make one color image. "It works a little like an inkjet color printer, which combines primary colors to create various shades on paper," explains Eric De Jong, Lead for the Solar System Visualization Team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "Then, we can tweak the color just like you can adjust the color balance on a TV screen at home." —NASA, JPL

So, there you go. NASA is clearly admitting to "color correcting," "color balancing," and even "tweaking the colors" of their images, so you can see whatever they want you to see.

Does it make any sense to you? Why not simply taking pictures of the environment AS IT IS? Why changing its color into something else?

It's the same old "the government knows what's best for you" rhetoric, and the people have been tricked into blindly believing and obeying it without question.

I mean, you haven't heard anyone complaining about the "color tweaking," have you?

But the "color tweaking" is not all they are doing to the original pictures. NASA has been caught, more than once, faking entire environments of — allegedly — Mars.

In the following video (in Spanish), we can clearly see evidence of blatant tampering with the original environment (blurring specific areas and copy-pasting the same rock again and again, in over 75% of the image):



Here are a couple of pictures, for better reference (source):

Mars fake image - rocks blurred

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"Martian" anomalies

Taking all of the above into consideration, it is now easier to understand why enthusiasts find so many inconsistencies and anomalies in NASA's pictures. Let's take the following picture for example:


The media called it the "Mars rat", but this is actually an arctic lemming and it is commonly found on— you've guessed it — Devon Island.

Here is a picture of the arctic lemming, taken on Devon Island:

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(This picture is taken in an area with vegetation, but as you can see in the first two pictures of this article, there are plenty of barren landscapes on Devon Island).

NASA's technique of coloring the whole ground so to make it look like Mars (as you will see), made the small creature look like a rock — until someone with a sharp eye spotted it.



In the following video, from minute 3:18 to 5:30, you can see just how easy it is to make any environment look like a Martian desert.

The author of the video, Danny Wilten, takes a random picture from Earth (Ireland, to be more specific), where there is a fair amount of vegetation and even has a road with a white van on it.

In only five minutes of work, he manages to remove the car and the road, and turn all the vegetation into a barren, reddish landscape, similar to NASA's pictures of Mars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5_Il2tAT7U
As a final touch, he even adds a portion of the rover in the lower left corner of the edited picture, making it almost almost indistinguishable from the pictures released by NASA:


Now just imagine what a Photoshop expert can do with a picture that already had color filters applied to the camera, and was taken in a controlled environment (location, lighting, exposure, etc.).

I'm sure everyone remembers the following famous photo, in which we can see the rover's shadow and, right next to it, the shadow of a man in a space suit, seemingly making some adjustments:


Of course, this either means that there are already humans on Mars (which I will talk about later), or that this image was taken on Earth.

Here's a picture of NASA scientist Pascal Lee, wearing an astronaut suit on Devon Island, Canada:

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Quick recap: On Devon Island there's an identical landscape as the one from NASA's pictures (presented to us as Mars), they have permanent bases there, rovers fitted with cameras roaming around, and people fully geared up in astronaut suits. Corroborate this with NASA's admission about editing the pictures before releasing them to the public and the fact that they have been caught more than once faking the landscapes, and the connection becomes crystal clear: the pictures are NOT from Mars!

NASA's mission to Mars is a sad joke (as you will see later on), the rovers have never left the Earth and The Powers That Be have stolen yet another $2.5 billion from the taxpayers' money, to use for their black projects.

(You should know that NASA has also used a secondary location on Earth for simulating the Martian environment, in the Mojave Desert.

In that location, they train astronauts to walk around and do their daily jobs dressed up in space suits.

It is also possible that NASA is sending their teams to various remote locations around the world, to take pictures of the barren environment — which they will later edit to look like Mars. They can even create fake environments altogether, by combining two or more images, or by adding/removing rocks, hills or even mountains).

NASA's rovers took some really strange pictures in the past — the bright orb changing position,hieroglyphs with pyramids in the background (personally, I suspect this image to be a composition from two or more pictures, and not an original landscape), a dome, etc., — so the following image was received as a yet another piece of evidence that Mars was not only inhabited in the past, but it continues to be even today.

Here's a recent picture, allegedly taken on Mars by the Curiosity Rover, that has caused quite a stir in the UFO community. Posted online by NASA, the following image clearly shows a disc-shaped object flying across the horizon.


Unfortunately for NASA, they cannot discard this as a weather balloon, plane, or even a bird, as they usually do, because the picture was allegedly taken on Mars. So, they either have to admit that flying saucers are real, or that these pictures are taken on Earth. A truly impossible choice!

NASA is a smokescreen for an advanced secret space program

As I have presented in a previous article that you can read here, NASA is just a smokescreen for the real space program, which falls in the military domain, especially the US Navy. These guys are flying extremely advanced "anti-gravitational" space crafts, capable of very fast interstellar travel.

Gary McKinnon is a hacker that managed to break into the computers of the Army, Air Force, Navy and NASA. Among other interesting things, he found out that the US Navy has a fully operational fleet of spaceships.

In his own words, here is what he found out:

"I scanned and looked for documents, I found an Excel spreadsheet which said, 'Non-terrestrial officers'. It had ranks and names. It had tabs for 'material transfer' between ships. I took that to be, they must have a ships based in space – the names started with U.S.S."

McKinnon is now facing a ten-year legal battle that could end up with life in prison. You can watch his interview here.

And the evidence to support McKinnon's claims is truly overwhelming. For example, Ben Rich, CEO of Lockheed Skunk Works, has famously stated in 1993:

"We now have the technology to take ET home." (Read more)

Ben Rich also admitted that the extraterrestrial flying saucers are real, and our space program is built with alien technology:

"There are two types of UFOs — the ones we build and the ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual 'hand-me-downs.'"

His colleague, Don Phillips, Lockheed design engineer, CIA and USAF backed his claims. (Read more)

Another Senior Scientist for Lockheed Martin and Area 51 scientist, Boyd Bushman, has openly talked about aliens stationed in Area 51 and "anti-gravity" technology, just before passing away in 2014. You can watch his testimony here.

'Captain Kaye' claimed to have spent 17 years on Mars and three years aboard an enormous space carrier.

Andrew Basiago also claimed to have been on Mars 40 times, and corroborates Captain Kaye's claims that there is an established human colony there.

Whistleblower Corey Goode claims to have been recruited through one of the MILAB programs at the age of six and personally traveled on Mars, where the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC)...

"...has an entire industrial infrastructure that includes bases, stations, outposts, mining operations and facilities on Mars, various moons and spread throughout the main Asteroid Belt (where a "Super Earth Planet" once existed). They have facilities to take raw materials and turn them into usable materials to produce both complex metals and composite materials that our material sciences have not dreamt of yet." (Source)

Laura Magdalene Eisenhower, the great-granddaughter of former US President Dwight David Eisenhower, has gone on record and testified that she was targeted for recruitment for a secret space program that would have allowed her to go on Mars, where there's a secret colony of humans. (Source)

Now, corroborating all these accounts, it becomes obvious that 'they' really have an advanced secret space program going on for decades and NASA is just a smokescreen for the public. Do you really think that the previously mentioned ICC would allow NASA to roam around with their rovers, taking pictures?

As an alleged, anonymous, "anti-gravity" insider, known as CaptainS, stated in 2011:

"NASA is just a front for the public. (...) The real space program falls in the military's domain, mainly Air force and Navy. But the nice chemical rockets sure are fun to watch... Very few people from NASA are actually in the loop. They don't know anything."

So, basically, NASA's role is to keep us distracted with their fake pictures from Devon Island,while the big boys have already established human colonies on Mars and who knows on how many other planets.

(On a happier, sarcastic note, I guess NASA's Photoshop experts will have a bright career in tourism, when NASA will eventually be shut down).

Before concluding this article, I leave you to watch NASA's absolutely ridiculous press conference about the alleged touch down of the rovers on Martian soil.

It has bad acting, fake excitement, lots of sweat and numerous in-your-face statements about this being just a movie that you paid for ($2.5 billion, to be specific).

These guys have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, they are unable to answer any scientific questions whatsoever and the journalists definitely know volumes more about this phony mission, but hey, as the guy says, it only cost you $7/person, so you might just as well enjoy it:


http://www.anonews.co/nasa-mars-hoax/

The problem with that theory is that things are only relatively similar at some distance, a close up of the rocks on Earth would show signs of water erosion that are not visible on Mars rocks.

Also, where are the mountains and craters on Devon Island?

Quote from: ArMaP on May 11, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
The problem with that theory is that things are only relatively similar at some distance, a close up of the rocks on Earth would show signs of water erosion that are not visible on Mars rocks.

Also, where are the mountains and craters on Devon Island?

base bricks and a flat horizon your problem ? whats wrong with using cgi to enhance ? seems like it would be entirely plausible to me

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 11, 2016, 02:07:19 PM
base bricks and a flat horizon your problem ?

What do you mean by "base bricks"? ???

Quotewhats wrong with using cgi to enhance ? seems like it would be entirely plausible to me

Enhance, yes, but are you ignoring what I said about the shapes of the rocks? Do you think that enhancing all the rocks in 3D would be plausible? It was easier to have an all CGI environment.

ignoring?

funbox

sorry , I just could resist

base bricks , consider some plasticine or a canvas

enhancing the rocks in 3d is entirely plausible .. give me any rock you want and ill enhance it with cgi

funbox

although something tells me they had problems masking the bits of wood that would occasionally pop up , I suppose you know the ones of which I speak, no need for pictures, they happened :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 11, 2016, 09:02:49 PM
enhancing the rocks in 3d is entirely plausible .. give me any rock you want and ill enhance it with cgi

I know that enhancing one rock is no problem, what I meant was that they would need to enhance all the rocks and in 3D, so they would match when seen from different cameras, with different focal lengths and from different points of view.

QuoteI know that enhancing one rock is no problem, what I meant was that they would need to enhance all the rocks and in 3D, so they would match when seen from different cameras, with different focal lengths and from different points of view.

whats so difficult ? none of those conditions ,focal length or perspective or even whether there's color or not, would be a problem . even 3dsmax and middling business 3ds packages can handle and use multiple types of camera , any focal length you choose , many have camera matching tools that can make alignments a synch.

funbox

as an expert in ufo craft,i believe ops post to be 99% factual.my research has shown these craft are real and the germans had the best working models in the 40s.for that era.its all mhd and i always get banned from certain air force psyop ct forum when i mention mhd.which is basically proof its mhd.if the stories of nazis on mars are actual stories from that era then i believe the nazis were there first because the craft designs could have easily made the voyage.the more recent release of the usa arv"alien reproduction vehicle ",is actually a primitive craft to the nazi vril designs butbasic functions are the same.falling in line with mhd technology theory.

Quote from: funbox on May 12, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
whats so difficult ?

That part you ignored in your answer, as usual: changing all rocks.

maybe because "changing all the rocks" is meaningless, if by that you mean their geometry ,  faces, edges, and vertices , and changing them ... again, no problem whatsoever


it's quite amusing the different things you could change a rock from,  and vice versa

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 12, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
maybe because "changing all the rocks" is meaningless

How is that meaningless?

When you have a photo taken on Earth that shows, for example, 200 rocks that need to be changed to remove signs of water erosion, how is that meaningless?

QuoteI know that enhancing one rock is no problem, what I meant was that they would need to enhance all the rocks and in 3D, so they would match when seen from different cameras, with different focal lengths and from different points of view.

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That part you ignored in your answer, as usual: changing all rocks.

so then you're referring to material change , giving a different texture to the environment and the rocks within,

it matters not whether the photos were taken here on earth or mars , altering them and using them to create a 3d environment, which you can then alter the content on both a 3d geometry level and a texture level to alter or mask is entirely feasible

ide imagine they have programmes and algorithm that don't even need human input. to alter the picture in the sequence at which anomalies  arrive in the landscape  and continual modify any subsequent picture where said anomaly appears, *mars*

same applies if the rover was here on earth and driving around on Devon island, alter the environment removing plastic and coke cans , then applying colour filter etc etc , then reducing the entire picture to the equivalent  qualities that a piece of chewing gum, under a desk, evokes

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 13, 2016, 01:01:50 AM
so then you're referring to material change , giving a different texture to the environment and the rocks within,

It's not a question of texture, it's more the general shape, as rocks shaped by water erosion have a different shape, more rounded or, at least, without any sharp edges or corners, while rocks shaped by wind erosion may have smooth faces and even some strange curves but may have sharp edges.

Quoteit matters not whether the photos were taken here on earth or mars , altering them and using them to create a 3d environment, which you can then alter the content on both a 3d geometry level and a texture level to alter or mask is entirely feasible

Sure it's feasible, but then why even have physical rovers? The work they would need to make Earth photos look like they were taken on Mars would more more or less the same as if they created a whole CGI version of Mars, no physical rovers needed.

Quoteide imagine they have programmes and algorithm that don't even need human input.

I am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs. :)

QuoteIt's not a question of texture, it's more the general shape, as rocks shaped by water erosion have a different shape, more rounded or, at least, without any sharp edges or corners, while rocks shaped by wind erosion may have smooth faces and even some strange curves but may have sharp edges.

then its a question of edges faces and vertices as ive already mentioned, geometry can be extrapolated and then manipulated

QuoteSure it's feasible, but then why even have physical rovers? The work they would need to make Earth photos look like they were taken on Mars would more more or less the same as if they created a whole CGI version of Mars, no physical rovers needed.

true , but then you have to consider convincing the  scientific community *those outside of black ops * a huge group*. there has to be the false  process of creation of the rover , launch etc etc. quite a job , but one that's necessary. unless you want them to blow their cover , two missions operating in tandem one to cover the other

QuoteI am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs. :)

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field? 

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 10:54:02 AM
then its a question of edges faces and vertices as ive already mentioned, geometry can be extrapolated and then manipulated

I never said it couldn't.

Quotetrue , but then you have to consider convincing the  scientific community *those outside of black ops * a huge group*. there has to be the false  process of creation of the rover , launch etc etc. quite a job , but one that's necessary. unless you want them to blow their cover , two missions operating in tandem one to cover the other

And what about the published results? Photos are just a small part of the data gathered, the one that common people understand (maybe), but there are also the spectrometry results, chemical analysis results, etc., etc..
Are they faking the photos and publishing real results from the other experiments or are they faking everything?

And what about the orbiters? We have photos from those that show the rovers, are those also fake?

In my opinion, it would be almost as big a task to fake everything as to really make the missions.

Quoteyou think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

Do you have any experience in this field?

QuoteAnd what about the published results? Photos are just a small part of the data gathered, the one that common people understand (maybe), but there are also the spectrometry results, chemical analysis results, etc., etc..

and what of them ?.. why would everything need to be faked? wouldn't it be easier just to take out the things you don't want from the patsy mission and feed the rest to the scientific community?

QuoteAnd what about the orbiters? We have photos from those that show the rovers, are those also fake?

In my opinion, it would be almost as big a task to fake everything as to really make the missions.

do you think that as a species we've ever been bothered about waste, history is resplendent with examples of material and human expenditure on massive levels ..

what makes you think such colossus efforts are not being made now ?

especially concidering the magnitude of the secret and its effects upon us as a species

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Do you have any experience in this field?

would observing the multitude of cattle mutilations, and the scars left behind by such unknown tools constitute experience of the field ?

or just observations of a very efficient mobile medical veternary unit ?

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 01:55:29 PM
and what of them ?.. why would everything need to be faked? wouldn't it be easier just to take out the things you don't want from the patsy mission and feed the rest to the scientific community?

Are you thinking about parallel missions, one real on Mars and one fake on Earth? If you do, what do you think could be the reasons for that?

Quotewhat makes you think such colossus efforts are not being made now ?

especially concidering the magnitude of the secret and its effects upon us as a species

I suppose that's because I don't really see a reason for doing it.

Quotewould observing the multitude of cattle mutilations, and the scars left behind by such unknown tools constitute experience of the field ?

or just observations of a very efficient mobile medical veternary unit ?

What's that got to do with programming?

QuoteAre you thinking about parallel missions, one real on Mars and one fake on Earth? If you do, what do you think could be the reasons for that?
Quote

if they are, its because the environment up there at times is so busy with stuff they don't want us to see, they deem it easier to use studio Devon island to fill in, whilst the rover passes on by whatever extremity its passing... maybe

QuoteI suppose that's because I don't really see a reason for doing it.

neither do you lie, which might leave you vulnerable to those that choose to, not only because they see it necessary  , but also  because they have no choice

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What's that got to do with programming?

what has programming got to do with requests to your thinking on this question

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

so , ArmaP you must have access to experimental technologies that havnt been made public

care to explain?

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 12, 2016, 09:24:52 PM
That part you ignored in your answer, as usual: changing all rocks.

McMurdo Dry Valleys could account for some Chile's Atacama Desert.

If humans had a base on Mars they could use some real pictures also right.

One added bonus all the money supposedly spent could be taken to help run Mars City.

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
McMurdo Dry Valleys could account for some.

you've seen as many mars pictures as me matey, do you recall the endless rocky fields we've seen already , then there would be intermission of features ,like  dingo gap etcetc , then rocky fields then feature etcetc.. but there would always be periods of rocks and that infamous picture of mount sharp in background..

but ive not seen McMurdo .. I go look for comparison

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 03:39:12 PM
you've seen as many mars pictures as me matey, do you recall the endless rocky fields we've seen already , then there would be intermission of features ,like  dingo gap etcetc , then rocky fields then feature etcetc.. but there would always be periods of rocks and that infamous picture of mount sharp in background..

but ive not seen McMurdo .. I go look for comparison

funbox

Also this
(http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/files/2015/10/martian-gallery11-gallery-image-1024x550.jpg)
It's hard to tell where real locations end and CGI begins in The Martian. For the real part, mountains in Jordan stand in convincingly for their counterparts on Mars; a farm vehicle plays the part of the Mars rover. Those robust wheels are necessary to withstand Earth's surface gravity, which is nearly three times that on Mars.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2015/10/16/the-designer-behind-the-greatest-fake-mars-mission-ever/#.Vzc77exViko
McMurdo (red mine)
(http://s20.postimg.org/ry66ao9rh/beacon_valley_moraine.jpg)
http://serc.carleton.edu/vignettes/collection/37807.html
(http://s20.postimg.org/sdm1hfl2l/beacon_valley_moraine_1.jpg)

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 03:43:10 PM
Also this
(http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/files/2015/10/martian-gallery11-gallery-image-1024x550.jpg)
It's hard to tell where real locations end and CGI begins in The Martian. For the real part, mountains in Jordan stand in convincingly for their counterparts on Mars; a farm vehicle plays the part of the Mars rover. Those robust wheels are necessary to withstand Earth's surface gravity, which is nearly three times that on Mars.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2015/10/16/the-designer-behind-the-greatest-fake-mars-mission-ever/#.Vzc77exViko

indeed . these days massive environments can be modelled and made to breathe, take the gaming industry for massive environments , mmpog's etc .. add existing earth environs to the mix and anything can be recreated.. I recently heard of a game that infinitely propagates whole worlds and environments and animals fauna etc  in real time.. ill go see if I can find it

funbox

ahh yes here it is

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/529136/no-mans-sky-a-vast-game-crafted-by-algorithms/


interview with one of the creators
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uMFHoF8VA

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 02:56:10 PM
if they are, its because the environment up there at times is so busy with stuff they don't want us to see, they deem it easier to use studio Devon island to fill in, whilst the rover passes on by whatever extremity its passing... maybe

Then they would need for Devon island to look more like the two locations where they have rovers now, so they could mix real images with fake ones.

Quoteneither do you lie, which might leave you vulnerable to those that choose to, not only because they see it necessary  , but also  because they have no choice

There's always a choice, even if you don't like it.

Quotewhat has programming got to do with requests to your thinking on this question

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

I thought it had, as you posted as an answer to my "I am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs".

Quoteso , ArmaP you must have access to experimental technologies that havnt been made public

care to explain?

Only my own experimental software, like the image search engine that I have neglected for too long.

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
McMurdo Dry Valleys could account for some Chile's Atacama Desert.

Both those places have the same signs of water erosion, and Atacama desert has vegetation.

QuoteThen they would need for Devon island to look more like the two locations where they have rovers now, so they could mix real images with fake ones.

why ?, when they could just add geometry to it to make it so ,, think canvas as ive already mentioned

if it looks like it and its accessibility makes it a good location to use as a base , why not ?

QuoteI thought it had, as you posted as an answer to my "I am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs".

see what confusion happens when you answer a question with a question ?

QuoteOnly my own experimental software, like the image search engine that I have neglected for too long.

indeed , you put 'negating unpopular thoughts' before your own personal ambitions,, how unselfish of you :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 03:57:38 PM
ahh yes here it is

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/529136/no-mans-sky-a-vast-game-crafted-by-algorithms/

Too bad I can't play it, it looks interesting.

But those type of thing is not as hard to make as it may look, as the code that creates the environment only has to follow a fixed set of rules and apply those to the randomly generated data.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 04:20:13 PM
Too bad I can't play it, it looks interesting.

But those type of thing is not as hard to make as it may look, as the code that creates the environment only has to follow a fixed set of rules and apply those to the randomly generated data.

yes the gaming industry .. all just for a bit of fun really , make a shed load of cash too.. now apply a real cause, and try to imagine what more could be achieved

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 04:16:20 PM
why ?, when they could just add geometry to it to make it so ,, think canvas as ive already mentioned

Then why the need for a physical location? Why not do it all in a computer?

Quotesee what confusion happens when you answer a question with a question ?

It's worse when people quote something and then act as if they didn't.

Quoteindeed , you put 'negating unpopular thoughts' before your own personal ambitions,, how unselfish of you :D

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 'negating unpopular thoughts'. ???
As for my ambitions, I don't really think I have any.

QuoteThen why the need for a physical location? Why not do it all in a computer?

ide imagine that has something to do with day night cycle. having the sun and atmosphere flooding from the horizon makes too realistic a backdrop than one can achieve via cgi, from my own understanding of creating sun cycles and atmospheres.

not to say they cannot be achieved and achieved well in pure cgi , but .. to me they don't hit the button of ultra realistic.

QuoteIt's worse when people quote something and then act as if they didn't.

I asked you a question and you answered with a question .. that made you fair game :D

now answer the intial question and ill be more considered :D

Quote'negating unpopular thoughts'

you don't see much about mars being faked by cgi and earth locations on the news , so ide hardly call it popular thougts

funbox

Easily removed the sparse vegetation and ice. there are iceless locations no person ever gets to see they are like this area the driest places on earth.
Also valley of the Moon in Jordan is Mars like.

Mars
(http://s20.postimg.org/t4ern7nfx/metal_object_mars_sol_107.jpg)
Earth
(http://s20.postimg.org/5sqny4965/ventifact1_1.jpg)

Friedmann valley
(http://s20.postimg.org/9dmjhcdpp/friedmann_valley.jpg)
Jaros beacon valley
(http://s20.postimg.org/c8zmo7hpp/jarosbeaconvalley_940_520_c1.jpg)
Taylor Glacier
(http://s20.postimg.org/upu1f0xnx/2_Taylor_snout.jpg)
(http://s20.postimg.org/gxfmje6wd/0705_Feature1.jpg)

QuoteWind is an important mechanism of erosion in the Dry Valleys. Strong, cold "katabatic" winds from the polar plateau blow down the valleys and pick up dust, which abrades the rocks and carves them into bizarre shapes.

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/htmlsite/master.html?http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/htmlsite/0705/0705_feature.html
Not really a question of could it be done now days only if it is or has been done I think.

(http://s20.postimg.org/vhwpe81v1/upper_wright_valley_above_don_juan_pond_near_lak.jpg)
(http://s20.postimg.org/w8pfk048d/DSC00866.jpg)
http://matt-waydownsouth.blogspot.com/

Jordan Wadi Rum
(http://s20.postimg.org/3x8h0p9pp/2015_jordan_wadi_rum_nomads9521.jpg)

we even have many places with "blueberries"
(http://s20.postimg.org/5qbdp0uwd/con_20110111124458_b.jpg)

My pick is the Asgard Range
(http://s20.postimg.org/4pb4zwdwt/157401_max.jpg)

There is weird dunes here in the glaciers areas also  :)
Mars
http://s20.postimg.org/xg7ypyjql/dune.jpg
EARTH
http://s20.postimg.org/lfmip8cbx/IMG_3404.jpg

Quotekawelch in Antarctica
kawelchinantarctica.blogspot.com400 × 300Search by image
We had a great flight over the Asgard Range and Wright Valley and then flew into Victoria Valley. It seems like a strange combination to see sand dunes

http://kawelchinantarctica.blogspot.com/

This post seems to me to be an absolute waste of time and energy for you intelligent guys!! I suppose there is nothing that somebody cannot propose to be an act of conspiracy! There is absolutely no value to ANYBODY anywhere to fake the Nasa Mars Rovers. Maybe Mars is not even a real planet  - HUH?? And of course, if the Rovers do not exist, then should we not assume that the Mars Orbiters are also a figment of someone's imagination for conspiracy reasons??

Of course "rocks and hills" look like "rocks and hills" most everywhere they are photographed, so should we be surprised that similarities in natural stuff can possibly be found on different planetary bodies?

No, I wil continue to assume that the Rovers are in full operation, as advertised by NASA! And I do say that, even with my also assumption that NASA et al does "screw" with the actual Rover photos. My assumption of the reality of the Rovers is, I have still "seen" too much "stuff" in the Rover photos to know they are not faked!

One other point - if the Rovers are not real, then the Mars Orbiter photos which actually show the Rovers on the surface of Mars must be faked too - HUH??

                                                                        (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/ying-yang.gif)

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
I asked you a question and you answered with a question .. that made you fair game :D

I answered with a question because programming is relatively independent from the computer technology in which it runs.

Quoteyou think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

I don't know, I haven't seen any black op software, but if I did then there isn't much difference.

Quoteyou don't see much about mars being faked by cgi and earth locations on the news , so ide hardly call it popular thougts

Well, I was never a fan of popularity contests. :)

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 05:09:20 PM
Easily removed the sparse vegetation and ice. there are iceless locations no person ever gets to see they are like this area the driest places on earth.
Also valley of the Moon in Jordan is Mars like.

As I said before, although those areas are similar, all of them show signs of strong water erosion, while Mars shows almost none.

do you believe we have and are currently being visited by advanced Alien being rdunk ?

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 06:13:55 PM
I answered with a question because programming is relatively independent from the computer technology in which it runs.
I don't know, I haven't seen any black op software, but if I did then there isn't much difference.
Well, I was never a fan of popularity contests. :)

sorry about that , I thought you was being evasive , but you did answer in the next quote down,

QuoteI don't know, I haven't seen any black op software, but if I did then there isn't much difference

difference.. to know difference is to understand each part .. or do you mean something else

QuoteWell, I was never a fan of popularity contests. :)

what has your ego got to to do with mass trains of thought

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 06:49:51 PM
difference.. to know difference is to understand it part .. or do you mean something else

What I mean is that if I didn't think of it as black op software then it's not much different from common software. Unless it was made to look like common software. :)

Quotewhat has your ego got to to do with mass trains of thought

What I meant was that as I never thought much of popularity it's natural that I don't mind having unpopular thoughts/opinions.

Quote from: rdunk on May 14, 2016, 06:06:01 PM
This post seems to me to be an absolute waste of time and energy for you intelligent guys!! I suppose there is nothing that somebody cannot propose to be an act of conspiracy! There is absolutely no value to ANYBODY anywhere to fake the Nasa Mars Rovers. Maybe Mars is not even a real planet  - HUH?? And of course, if the Rovers do not exist, then should we not assume that the Mars Orbiters are also a figment of someone's imagination for conspiracy reasons??

I have always been fascinated by how strongly each person feels toward their pet beliefs-disbeliefs.

The ones who can spend time looking for grounded saucers but not imagine a conspiracy involving mars, persons who can believe what some find outlandish but bulk at chemtrails  :)

Personally I believe nothing, I think about everything, and investigate everything in the hopes that in the end some of us can find proof one way or another.
Until such time I will keep an equally open mind to any possibility and I don't see how that can be a bad thing with so many proven secrets and lies that have been perpetuated against the public over the years.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 06:15:33 PM
As I said before, although those areas are similar, all of them show signs of strong water erosion, while Mars shows almost none.

Dry places on earth look the same as Mars. Mars was once bathed in water.
Mars does have water erosion.

QuoteDry processes – especially on Mars, where large regions have been bone-dry for many millions of years – can often create the same effects on the landscape as those caused by running water. Windblown Martian sand and repetitive dry landslides can etch rock in much the same way as liquid water, given enough time. But the feature seen above in Terby seem to planetary scientists to be most likely the result of liquid erosion...

http://www.universetoday.com/85479/more-evidence-of-liquid-erosion-on-mars/

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Dry places on earth look the same as Mars.

That's what I have been trying to say, the places look similar, but when we look at the rocks up close we see the difference in how they were eroded.

QuoteMars was once bathed in water.
Mars does have water erosion.

Yes, Mars has signs of water erosion in some places, that's why I said that "Mars shows almost none", and I was talking about the rocks, not about large areas, I should have been clearer about that. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 07:56:02 PM
That's what I have been trying to say, the places look similar, but when we look at the rocks up close we see the difference in how they were eroded.
Yes, Mars has signs of water erosion in some places, that's why I said that "Mars shows almost none", and I was talking about the rocks, not about large areas, I should have been clearer about that. :)

But what I just read is that they are indeed eroded the same way and by the same processes.

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Dry places on earth look the same as Mars. Mars was once bathed in water.
Mars does have water erosion.
http://www.universetoday.com/85479/more-evidence-of-liquid-erosion-on-mars/

Dunes

QuoteThe rover will face the desolate Atacama Desert in northern Chile, one of the most similar to Marte.Siendo one of the dry land Earth lugaresmás landscapes, this desert devoid of any vegetation and soils of reddish-brown and stones, make it look even more like Mars.

(http://s20.postimg.org/6716p7819/Atacama_Desert_Otherworldly_places.jpg)
Another one of the dry valley mars looks :D
(http://s20.postimg.org/y4lemn7u5/dry_valleys_antarctica.jpg)
http://www.startres.net/el-rover-que-la-esa-enviara-a-marte-sera-probado-en-el-desierto-de-atacama/

AhHa Found it! ;D
(http://s20.postimg.org/w1azez819/ventifact_mars1.jpg)
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/3772663434/photos/1886295/

http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-06.html

The driest parts of Chile's Atacama desert get rain once every few
decades, yet microbial life exists a mere 8 to 12 inches below the
parched terrain. Researcher Jay Quade, shown here in a test pit,
samples the Mars-like landscape for soil carbonates.  Credit:
Julio L. Betancourt, U.S. Geological Survey.

In truth, the similarities between the Atacama and Mars are striking.
The surface of Mars has apparently been dry for millions or even
billions of years.  But the driest "absolute desert" region of the
Atacama is not much moister; it rains there maybe once every other
decade, though nobody bothers to measure it.  In fact, the desiccated
vista of dirt and rocks is so Mars-like that NASA uses the area as a
model for the Red Planet.
.
Yet despite its inhospitable qualities, a team of Arizona scientists
has discovered microbial life about a foot below the rough
terrain. "We found life, we can culture it, and we can extract and
look at its DNA," said Raina Maier, an environmental microbiologist at
the University of Arizona in Tuscon and co-author of the work.
.
This finding, published as a letter in the November 19, 2004 issue of
the journal Science, contradicts a previous report asserting that the
Atacama's absolute desert is too dry to support life and is
essentially sterile.


(http://s20.postimg.org/r57cna7vx/usgs_atacama_quade.jpg)

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 06:37:31 PM
do you believe we have and are currently being visited by advanced Alien being rdunk ?

funbox

What do I believe??..............

........I believe there is considerable proof on Mars for the existence for what we would term aliens, much of which I have posted here

........I believe there is "seemingly" proof of intervention on the Earth by ones far more advanced than were the Earthlings of the time.

........I believe evidence does exist on Earth for proof of either aliens having been here, or proof for the designer of this Earth having done it         
         in a way to "confound the wise"!!

The situation for many with aliens is maybe much like the conversation between the two caterpillars:

           One caterpillar said to the other caterpillar, "Hey guy, what are those colorful things that we see fluttering about above our heads 
           and all around us"?? And the other caterpillar replied. "Aw you dummy, those are nothing more than some sort of flying bugs"!!     


                                                                        (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/bugs/confused-caterpillar-smiley-emoticon.gif)
                                                                 

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 08:06:50 PM
But what I just read is that they are indeed eroded the same way and by the same processes.

Yes, but that article was talking about macrosscale erosion (I suppose I can call it that, I don't know if it's the right name), the erosion that creates gullies like those on the walls of some craters like the one in the article, Terby crater.

For example, in the image below (image G09_021900_1756_XN_04S222W from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's Context Camera) you can see what clearly looks like water (or other liquid) carved channels, both coming from the north into Gale crater and coming from Mount Sharp (at the bottom of the photo).
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/G09_021900_1756_XN_04S222W.jpg)

That (and the finding of clay, that needs water to appear) was one of the reasons they chose Gale crater as the target of Curiosity's mission.

Now, if you look at the image below, taken in the Atacama desert during tests of an ESA self-sterring robot, it does look like Mars, right? But if you look closely at the rocks you will see that they haven't any sharp edges or points.
(http://cdn.phys.org/newman/gfx/news/hires/2012/esatestsself.jpg)

Compare those rocks with the rocks from Curiosity's photos, like the one below, and you can see what I mean, photos from Mars lack signs (on the rocks) of water (and chemical, something I forgot but saw mentioned while I was looking for photos from the Atacama desert) erosion.
(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00844/mcam/0844MR0037530430500995E01_DXXX.jpg)

But, having said that, I must also point that when they got the first photos from Curiosity they were happy to see that there were signs of water erosion, as there were pebbles on the ground, like we can see in the photo below.
(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00013/mcam/0013MR0000120070100046E01_DXXX.jpg)

So, what I have trying to explain, is that when I look at photos from Earth I see that there are types of erosion that are not seen (or seen as weaker) on photos from Mars, where even the wind erosion appears to be weaker, despite the strong Martian winds.

Another difference, Mars rocks appear more porous than Earth rocks of similar type.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 07:02:02 PM
What I mean is that if I didn't think of it as black op software then it's not much different from common software. Unless it was made to look like common software. :)
What I meant was that as I never thought much of popularity it's natural that I don't mind having unpopular thoughts/opinions.

I don't remember seeing you dip out of the mainstream ? can you highlight some instances ?

funbox

Quote from: rdunk on May 14, 2016, 09:05:00 PM
What do I believe??..............

........I believe there is considerable proof on Mars for the existence for what we would term aliens, much of which I have posted here

........I believe there is "seemingly" proof of intervention on the Earth by ones far more advanced than were the Earthlings of the time.

........I believe evidence does exist on Earth for proof of either aliens having been here, or proof for the designer of this Earth having done it   in a way to "confound the wise"!!

The situation for many with aliens is maybe much like the conversation between the two caterpillars:

           One caterpillar said to the other caterpillar, "Hey guy, what are those colorful things that we see fluttering about above our heads 
           and all around us"?? And the other caterpillar replied. "Aw you dummy, those are nothing more than some sort of flying bugs"!!     
                                                               

so , do you believe were being visited now ? the recent past ? do you also believe we have alien technology at our disposal ?

if so , why are we using fossil fuelled crafts and robots to visit planets for scientific study ?
could it be that the vast majority of the scientific community need appeasing , that going about it in any other way would reveal dangerous technologies/ideologies to the wider  scientific community, technologies that would make our planet that bit more dangerous. yet, at the same time earths space programmes slowly trickle the idea we are not alone in the universe.

fort had a parable like your caterpillas
we're all deep sea fish, and what would a deep sea fish know, if some flotsam from above came down and bumped it on the nose ?

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 10:02:14 PM


But, having said that, I must also point that when they got the first photos from Curiosity they were happy to see that there were signs of water erosion, as there were pebbles on the ground, like we can see in the photo below.

So, what I have trying to explain, is that when I look at photos from Earth I see that there are types of erosion that are not seen (or seen as weaker) on photos from Mars, where even the wind erosion appears to be weaker, despite the strong Martian winds.

Another difference, Mars rocks appear more porous than Earth rocks of similar type.

Thanks :)
I think for photo comparisons it would be very difficult to tell the difference.

http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx06058/Publications_files/PHX_Morph.pdf
The process is so similar low humidity, high wind, salt

"[13] Strong morphological similarities exist between
245 landforms observed at the Phoenix landing site and those
246 observed in the stable upland zone, ADV [Marchant and
247 Denton, 1996; Marchant et al., 2002; Marchant and Head,
248 2007]. The Phoenix assemblage of landforms includes
249 pitted boulders, puzzle rocks, perched cobbles, and subli-
250 mation polygons [Marchant et al., 2002; Levy et al., 2008],
251 an assemblage also found in the coldest and driest regions
252 of the ADV, but atypical of the coastal thaw zone. This
253 diagnostic assemblage of landforms may be indicative of
254 equilibrium climate conditions driving geomorphic process-
255 es [Marchant and Head, 2007]. For comparison, the mean
256 annual temperature in Beacon Valley (stable upland zone) is
257 251 K, with a mean water vapor pressure of 40– 50 Pa
258 [Marchant and Head, 2007, Table 1]. In contrast, the mean
259 summer temperature in the coastal thaw zone is 268 K,"

Quote
Personally I believe nothing, I think about everything, and investigate everything in the hopes that in the end some of us can find proof one way or another.
Until such time I will keep an equally open mind to any possibility and I don't see how that can be a bad thing with so many proven secrets and lies that have been perpetuated against the public over the years.

not a bad thing at all , one of the reasons ive always liked you :)

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 11:06:07 PM
I don't remember seeing you dip out of the mainstream ? can you highlight some instances ?

That depends on the topic. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 11:57:33 PM
That depends on the topic. :)

humour me :D

funbox

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 11:44:22 PM
Thanks :)
I think for photo comparisons it would be very difficult to tell the difference.

Difficult, maybe, but not impossible. :)

The comparison between Phoenix's landing site and Antarctica is a better comparison, as Phoenix landed on a location that, on Earth, corresponds to the north of Canada, close to Alaska.

PS: a test to try to identify which photos are from Earth and which are from Mars would be interesting. :)

This discussion has drifted into the question of alien intervention (or the lack thereof).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive

I think Star Trek fiction has value in thinking about our situation on earth. There are so many inconsistencies about non-intervention that I do wonder if all "aliens" are linked minds.  Otherwise, how could "they" control the situation? The idea that we are the center of some sort of "war" seems absurd because there would be no enforcement of non-interference.  ET's could sneak stuff in, pick sides, expose free energy technology or just Do Disclosure whenever they get bored. 

Next question, what is the explanation for why ancient civilizations were directly friendly with ET's (supposedly)?

Quote from: Eighthman on May 15, 2016, 12:24:52 AM. 

Next question, what is the explanation for why ancient civilizations were directly friendly with ET's (supposedly)?

cause generally humans are a good natured friendly bunch or were back then ?:D

a more pertinent question would be to ask why so much of history is being blown up and stolen, im not buying jihadi fanatics, way to book depository for my liking
and money motive is such a fickle bore

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 11:58:47 PM
humour me :D

I think that on the topic of Mars exploration there was something with which I did not agree in the official explanation, but I can't remember what it was.

I think it was related to those dark streaks that appear flowing down some dunes near the Martian south pole, but I'm not sure.

As to history, I think we are drifting into more accurate truth about our past.  Decades afterward, it is now easier to see British guilt in pushing the world into WW2.  There was no need to declare war because of Poland.  The 'Blitz' and naval war with Germany was unnecessary - Hitler wanted an armistice and his target was Russia, not Britain.  Churchill pushed his nation into a pointless war that led directly to the end of their Empire.

I could go on - the Confederacy had every right to leave, already established by the Declaration of Independence. Pearl Harbor was preceded by bold headlines in Honolulu newspapers that said "Japs To Attack".

I think that any Prime Directive is simply a rewording of respect for evolution.  If Aliens were to 'pick sides', i would say that their viewpoint would be closer to Taoist influenced China and international law obsessed Russia.

Quote from: Eighthman on May 15, 2016, 01:48:25 AM
As to history, I think we are drifting into more accurate truth about our past.  Decades afterward, it is now easier to see British guilt in pushing the world into WW2.  There was no need to declare war because of Poland.  The 'Blitz' and naval war with Germany was unnecessary - Hitler wanted an armistice and his target was Russia, not Britain.  Churchill pushed his nation into a pointless war that led directly to the end of their Empire.

I could go on - the Confederacy had every right to leave, already established by the Declaration of Independence. Pearl Harbor was preceded by bold headlines in Honolulu newspapers that said "Japs To Attack".

I think that any Prime Directive is simply a rewording of respect for evolution.  If Aliens were to 'pick sides', i would say that their viewpoint would be closer to Taoist influenced China and international law obsessed Russia.

the only thing Churchill was taking us to, was to see his padded cell, it was Neville chamberlin that dragged us in no doubt with a Rothschild hand up his ass


funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 15, 2016, 01:31:41 AM

I think it was related to those dark streaks that appear flowing down some dunes near the Martian south pole, but I'm not sure.

I know the ones of which you speak, seasonal appearances .. so what did you think about them that was so unpopular? ski tracks for Blue-its ?

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 15, 2016, 04:12:25 PM
I know the ones of which you speak, seasonal appearances .. so what did you think about them that was so unpopular? ski tracks for Blue-its ?

As I said, I don't remember what it was, but whatever it was it was something I didn't give much importance, seeing that I forgot about it.  :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 15, 2016, 04:49:01 PM
As I said, I don't remember what it was, but whatever it was it was something I didn't give much importance, seeing that I forgot about it.  :)

ah not to worry , lay back on your Lillo and drift along in that comfortable middle stream , steady as she goes, no eddies or whirlpools, just easy sailing.


keep an ear out for any large roaring noises though :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 15, 2016, 05:21:30 PM
ah not to worry , lay back on your Lillo and drift along in that comfortable middle stream , steady as she goes, no eddies or whirlpools, just easy sailing.

What's a "lillo"? ???

As I said in another thread, my opinions are my own, I don't care if they are in "middle of the stream" or not.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 15, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
What's a "lillo"? ???

sorry to many L's , im surprise that threw you though

https://www.google.com/#safe=strict&q=inflatable+lilo+argos

QuoteAs I said in another thread, my opinions are my own, I don't care if they are in "middle of the stream" or not.

good for you, although I still find it fascinating someone so straight  laced , would spend so much time dipping their toes into the fringes . then there's no end to the frivolity of my contemplations :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 15, 2016, 05:39:53 PM
sorry to many L's , im surprise that threw you though

https://www.google.com/#safe=strict&q=inflatable+lilo+argos

I only knew LILO, the Linux Loader, and Lilo from Lilo & Stich (only by name, never watched it)

Quotegood for you, although I still find it fascinating someone so straight  laced , would spend so much time dipping their toes into the fringes . then there's no end to the frivolity of my contemplations :D

As I said before, it depends on the topic. In the topic of space exploration my opinions are mostly the same as the official explanations from the scientists, not from the "public relations" people, but that doesn't mean that I'm not open to other ideas, and the best place to see new ideas is the "fringe" area, where we sure to see new ideas (or recycled old ideas). The fact that I think most (if not all) of those ideas are wrong doesn't mean that I'm think that nobody will ever appear with a different but correct idea/opinion/theory that will become mainstream in the future, as all mainstream ideas were once new. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 15, 2016, 06:11:43 PM
I only knew LILO, the Linux Loader, and Lilo from Lilo & Stich (only by name, never watched it)
As I said before, it depends on the topic. In the topic of space exploration my opinions are mostly the same as the official explanations from the scientists, not from the "public relations" people, but that doesn't mean that I'm not open to other ideas, and the best place to see new ideas is the "fringe" area, where we sure to see new ideas (or recycled old ideas). The fact that I think most (if not all) of those ideas are wrong doesn't mean that I'm think that nobody will ever appear with a different but correct idea/opinion/theory that will become mainstream in the future, as all mainstream ideas were once new. :)

so I take it you don't believe we're being visited by advanced alien civilisations then?, now or in the distant past..

or do you ? :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 15, 2016, 06:26:05 PM
so I take it you don't believe we're being visited by advanced alien civilisations then?, now or in the distant past..

I don't think we are or were visited by alien civilisations, as I haven't seen any data that points only to that explanation, and, in case of doubt, I always choose the most simple explanation.  :)

what was the simple conclusion you arrived at to explain the animal mutilation phenomena? what did you conclude the simple reason for 'exploded nodes' in some crop formations. I take it you are familiar with these subjects

do these phenomena show  symptoms of not so explainable and sometimes bizarre secondary evidence, that when accumulated these evidence's , and under the rules of Occam's razor, point to an unusual but simple answer ?

and what of secondary medical evidence that has accumulated through the years, being familiar with the ufo phenomena im sure I don't need to single any particular case out , no doubt they're like little needles at the back of your mind :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 16, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
what was the simple conclusion you arrived at to explain the animal mutilation phenomena?

None, I never looked much into that subject.

Quotewhat did you conclude the simple reason for 'exploded nodes' in some crop formations. I take it you are familiar with these subjects

The same as above, I never looked much into it either.

Quoteand what of secondary medical evidence that has accumulated through the years, being familiar with the ufo phenomena im sure I don't need to single any particular case out , no doubt they're like little needles at the back of your mind :D

You do need to single out one particular case, as I don't have the slightest idea of what you have in mind.  :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2016, 09:39:05 PM
You do need to single out one particular case, as I don't have the slightest idea of what you have in mind.  :)

ill have a look ,
here's one for you ,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-Landrum_incident

funbox

as for animal mutilations

http://www.mufon.com/animal-mutilations

I find it strange that there's no mention of Linda Moulton Howe on the site.. hmmm

but she was a reporter who covered the 80'ss epidemic, a strange harvest

I know you don't like videos , but this one is a classic :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYPH0pEqsM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i35zVZ7UKFg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRCgrovLlDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFC7KmeF9oo

my apologies I cannot find part one :D *found*

as for exploding nodes, this video should explain the difference found between crops circles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfEuhmR5bzk

all small parts that show a larger pattern , try if you like to use more *fuzzy logic*>> to paint in the links , as a programmer im sure you know what I mean by that

funbox

The UFO cases with physical evidences are the best ones, and those that had/have physical effects on the witnesses are the more interesting, but does that really means that they can only be explained by extraterrestrial visitors?

I find it funny that some people like to point out that people should "think outside the box" (I never liked that expression) but appear to see only one explanation for whatever they see they cannot explain.

Yes, there are dozens upon dozens of cases, but saying "it's Aliens" doesn't really explain them, it just replaces one unknown (who were they) with another unknown, seeing that saying "it's Aliens" doesn't really tells us who they were, it's like the "person or persons unknown", it gets nobody closer to the truth.

PS: I didn't watch the videos.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2016, 01:00:27 AM
The UFO cases with physical evidences are the best ones, and those that had/have physical effects on the witnesses are the more interesting, but does that really means that they can only be explained by extraterrestrial visitors?

I find it funny that some people like to point out that people should "think outside the box" (I never liked that expression) but appear to see only one explanation for whatever they see they cannot explain.

Yes, there are dozens upon dozens of cases, but saying "it's Aliens" doesn't really explain them, it just replaces one unknown (who were they) with another unknown, seeing that saying "it's Aliens" doesn't really tells us who they were, it's like the "person or persons unknown", it gets nobody closer to the truth.

PS: I didn't watch the videos.

its a case of deductive logic, seeing as you didn't watch the video, im unable to discuss the finer points , or any of the points made in the video. how can you see without viewing the actual video and photographs that where taken of these beasts,

beggars belief

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Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 01:31:32 AM
how can you see without viewing the actual video and photographs that where taken of these beasts,

beggars belief

I didn't say I wanted to see. :)

QuoteI find it funny that some people like to point out that people should "think outside the box" (I never liked that expression) but appear to see only one explanation for whatever they see they cannot explain.

how ironic, by your own admission you narrow your field of vision by not paying attention to the fields around you, how are you supposed to see the weave , if your staring at one small patterning of the rug

I never liked the expression either. I think that all things unknown and known cohabit  inside one big box that has the phrase "not to be opened until closing time" written on its exterior/interior

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Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 01:40:24 AM
how ironic, by your own admission you narrow your field of vision by not paying attention to the fields around you, how are you supposed to see the weave , if your staring at one small patterning of the rug

It's impossible to give full attention to all the topics that may be related to extraterrestrial presence on Earth, specially when some people use the extraterrestrial excuse as an explanation to all the things they do not understand. :)

Is it possible? Yes.
Is it likely that unknown beings from an unknown planet that do not leave any real sign of their presence are the responsible? I don't think so.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2016, 09:19:07 AM
It's impossible to give full attention to all the topics that may be related to extraterrestrial presence on Earth, specially when some people use the extraterrestrial excuse as an explanation to all the things they do not understand. :)

Is it possible? Yes.
Is it likely that unknown beings from an unknown planet that do not leave any real sign of their presence are the responsible? I don't think so.

well if you spent less time refuting speculations and more time researching such topics , you be able to argue your point from a solid position of understanding,

funbox

ArMaP

QuoteI find it funny that some people like to point out that people should "think outside the box" (I never liked that expression) but appear to see only one explanation for whatever they see they cannot explain.

funbox
"I never liked that expression either'

I like the expression, it makes me think of walls which have been put in place on the thinking especially of our scientists. They are taught to think withing the perimeters of accepted science conclusions only.
Outside the box describes very well what it takes to remove oneself from this narrow forced view and see the rest of the picture.

This is an interesting article on the subject

QuoteTowards the end of the 1950s, Isaac Asimov was invited to participate in an MIT creative team, commissioned by the Government of the United States. Their motto was "think outside the box" about the Arms Race that at the time was being fought by the world's two superpowers: the United States and the USSR.  The writer attended some of the meetings, but soon after decided to depart because he was not comfortable with possessing classified information. Asimov, however, established his participation in a short essay that was published this year by his friend Arthur Obermayer, who invited him to the "brainstorming" sessions in the first place.

http://www.faena.com/aleph/articles/isaac-asimov-suggests-how-to-nurture-creativity/

On the other hand I simply hate when people use and repeat repetitive terms for everything instead of using their own creative terms and descriptions.... :)

So I also am trying to think outside the melon  ;D

QuoteI like the expression, it makes me think of walls which have been put in place on the thinking especially of our scientists. They are taught to think withing the perimeters of accepted science conclusions only.
Outside the box describes very well what it takes to remove oneself from this narrow forced view and see the rest of the picture.

its a shame for some of them , they never got to that important destruction of ones ego, and are mostly then chained in the standing of others, which leaves them vulnerable to the likes of the royal society, and other such bodies or collaborative institutionalised mind rape gangs as I've fondly come to think of them.

Charles fort books delve into some of the scientific characters of yore, their dogmatic approach to the new and unusual is cleverly unearthed by him, which got him some serious backlash back in the day :D

but nevertheless , he exposed them for what they were

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armap may have his faults but if ever i was in a court,i would want his well balanced mind as judge.never have i found a more even keel.shout out to ArMaP!

Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 10:13:21 AM
well if you spent less time refuting speculations and more time researching such topics , you be able to argue your point from a solid position of understanding

How can anyone get a solid position if they don't separate the good data from the bad?

Is it better to spend years studying something just to learn at the end that it was based on flawed data or to spend some days studying the validity of the data?

Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2016, 09:40:19 PM
How can anyone get a solid position if they don't separate the good data from the bad?

Is it better to spend years studying something just to learn at the end that it was based on flawed data or to spend some days studying the validity of the data?

in this instance you wouldn't know to give each their labels :D
but anyway

hip hip ... hip hip

funbox

Quote from: robomont on May 17, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
armap may have his faults but if ever i was in a court,i would want his well balanced mind as judge.never have i found a more even keel.shout out to ArMaP!

Unless some court evidence was presented by video only!! :D ;D :D ;D ???

Quote from: Dyna on May 17, 2016, 07:05:12 PM
I like the expression, it makes me think of walls which have been put in place on the thinking especially of our scientists. They are taught to think withing the perimeters of accepted science conclusions only.

I don't know any scientists, but my elder sister knows at least two, and they don't think like that.

Quote from: robomont on May 17, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
armap may have his faults but if ever i was in a court,i would want his well balanced mind as judge.never have i found a more even keel.shout out to ArMaP!

Thanks. :)

Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
in this instance you wouldn't know to give each their labels :D

Sorry, I don't understand what that means. ???

Quote from: Dyna on May 17, 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Unless some court evidence was presented by video only!! :D ;D :D ;D ???

*swarms of mfb's guffaw in unison*

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Quote from: Dyna on May 17, 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Unless some court evidence was presented by video only!! :D ;D :D ;D ???

Touché!

I do watch videos, if I think they will be worth the time, the problem is that most videos we see on the Internet today are either made as if they were part of a TV show from the History channel (too much romancing around just a few facts) or made from static images (and many times those images were photos with a resolution much higher than the video).

Video is a tool, if used in a good way it helps, but if used wrongly it's just a waste of time, and time is more important than money, as you can get people to give you some money but there isn't a way of getting some extra time.

QuoteVideo is a tool, if used in a good way it helps, but if used wrongly it's just a waste of time, and time is more important than money, as you can get people to give you some money but there isn't a way of getting some extra time.

so what was so bad about the video's I posted, the first one *a strange harvest * was one of the first video documentary to be released on the animal mutilation phenomena , I figured it was an easy way to introduce you to a fascinating/ intriguing subject , you claimed you new nothing really of

you could have just told me you was burying your head instead

ill see if I can find it in screenplay format :D

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Quote from: funbox on May 17, 2016, 10:18:23 PM
so what was so bad about the video's I posted

The length. I have to have a strong reason to spend 1 hour watching videos.

Quoteyou claimed you new nothing really of

I didn't say that, I said that "I never looked much into that subject". :)

Quoteyou could have just told me you was burying your head instead

I didn't say that because it's not true, I just don't find this specifc subject interesting enough.

Quoteill see if I can find it in screenplay format :D

I doubt it, but it would be great, as the thing I hate the most about videos is that they force people to spend the time in the way they want. Unlike reading, that I can do at different speeds and still absorb the content, when we fast forward a video it's easy to lose part of the video and we (usually) lose the sound, so the amount of data is reduced.

PS: sometimes I download YouTube videos to be able to watch them with Media Player Classic or Avidemux, as those allow me better control of the speed at which I watch them.

" ...as you can get people to give you some money but there isn't a way of getting some extra time.'

Extra time, give someone money to do YOUR work :-)

Many of the videos have transcripts and I can do a quick scan on long ones that way if the subject is not as interesting to me.

Quote from: Dyna on May 18, 2016, 12:04:51 AM
Extra time, give someone money to do YOUR work :-)

I barely have money for myself, I cannot have that luxury.

QuoteMany of the videos have transcripts and I can do a quick scan on long ones that way if the subject is not as interesting to me.

From what I have seen of the automatic YouTube transcripts they are almost useless, specially for someone like me, that is not really used to English and has some difficulty understanding sentences that have an unusual structure.

animal mutilation is nothing but special ops sampling tissue,there was lawsuits and ranchers got paid,old x member from here linda howell still pushes it as woo on tv.so thats dead issue.

armap read your inbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 17, 2016, 11:32:06 PM
The length. I have to have a strong reason to spend 1 hour watching videos.
I didn't say that, I said that "I never looked much into that subject". :)
I didn't say that because it's not true, I just don't find this specifc subject interesting enough.
I doubt it, but it would be great, as the thing I hate the most about videos is that they force people to spend the time in the way they want. Unlike reading, that I can do at different speeds and still absorb the content, when we fast forward a video it's easy to lose part of the video and we (usually) lose the sound, so the amount of data is reduced.

PS: sometimes I download YouTube videos to be able to watch them with Media Player Classic or Avidemux, as those allow me better control of the speed at which I watch them.

i agree armap,i have to pay 15$ for one gig,im not blowing my wad on woulda coulda shoulda or some guy on an ego trip.

facts in black and white or color.that can be analyzed or science with references,speculation if science is easily linked.is my game.

Quote from: robomont on May 18, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
animal mutilation is nothing but special ops sampling tissue,there was lawsuits and ranchers got paid,old x member from here linda howell still pushes it as woo on tv.so thats dead issue.

You got yer wires crossed Robo.

Linda Howe, not Howell was never a member here.

Special ops can't afford to buy cattle for tissue sampling, so as not to arouse a ruckus among ranchers?

What ranchers got paid by whom for what?

There were plenty of cattle mutilations here in Oregon, researched by my team and these ranchers never got paid by anyone, and were never investigated by Linda Howe or anyone.

They were covered by the evening news however.

I do remember Z stating that they were a hoax, but he never offered any further explanation.

Anyone ever consider that maybe Linda Howe was approached by the AFOSI aviary (after her mutilation expose) with supposed secret Alien documents was the fact that she was exposing sensitive info and needed to be discredited?

my bad on spelling.cauterizing scalpel invented by airforce docter.found it in article from 20 years ago while doi g research at university.easily looked up under patents.dont remember ranchers names but about 10 years sgo ranchers admitted getting paid after filing lawsuit,air force settled before brought to trial.they are testing for radiation,odds are fuku radiation now since you stated oregon.

my bad i get browns daughter mixed up with linda,soo much bs over the years and i get confused.i tend to focus my attention on people who tell truth, and get liars and lies mixed up.
if ranchers are losing cattle,i recommend they class action the us airforce as cauterizing scalpel is tell.

Quote from: robomont on May 18, 2016, 01:49:39 AM
my bad on spelling.cauterizing scalpel invented by airforce docter.found it in article from 20 years ago while doi g research at university.easily looked up under patents.dont remember ranchers names but about 10 years sgo ranchers admitted getting paid after filing lawsuit,air force settled before brought to trial.they are testing for radiation,odds are fuku radiation now since you stated oregon.

Spelling mistake aside, there was never a Linda Howe OR Howell as a member here ever.

You might be thinking of Linda Brown who WAS a member here for a time, but she never had anything to do with Cattle Mutilations.

You need to steal cattle to test for radiation instead of buying them?

Not buyin it.

There was no Fuki radiation in the early 90's when this info came out.

Paying ranchers off just to shut them up about the sensitive subject I can see.

But stealing private citizens livestock to do radiation tests is a real stretch.

Possible... but not probable without a plausible motivation.

i never said nothing of them being stolen.just how mutilations happen,and whos doing it and why.they were testing for fallout from nuke test in 60s to see if math lined up with reality.

There's a lot not lining up with reality here.

51, I believe he is referring to Linda Moulton Howe of Earthfiles and her ongoing saga on cattle mutilations...edit to add: for some reason the earlier posts above your last one didn't show this am... :o I tend to agree that Ms. Howe may have stepped on the wrong toes and then tossed into the spin cycle...
just sayin...


seeker

yes seeker,thats what i meant,all these lindas and such get me mixed up some times.but the facts on mutilations are there,imho,this is all old news thats been hashed out on pegasus in the past many times.on many threads.

Quote from: robomont on May 18, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
animal mutilation is nothing but special ops sampling tissue,there was lawsuits and ranchers got paid,old x member from here linda howell still pushes it as woo on tv.so thats dead issue.

The mutilations do not just happen in the USA and they are not only done on domestic animals.

QuoteIn a few cases, trees in close proximity to the dead animal show evidence of broken boughs and branches again suggesting the carcass had been to the ground. A related observation is that occasionally, the carcasses of large wild animals like dear, elk and rams are inexplicably found in trees or entangled in high voltage power lines necessitating their removal by utility companies.

QuoteDr. Altshuler also discovered that hemoglobin located at the edge of the cutting site had somehow been cooked.

"The animal mutilation excisions do NOT show any carbon residue. But Earth life is carbon-based and all tissue exposed to the heat of a normal laser should show carbon residue that looks like black pepper grains under microscope magnification." [5]

QuoteAnother unusual mutilation pattern has been noted in foxes and small deer. Their mutilations consists of a small hole is bored through the upper skull from which the animals brains are mysteriously removed.

http://hybridsrising.com/Articles/Hybrids-Rising-Prions-Mutilations-Art.html

QuoteThe length. I have to have a strong reason to spend 1 hour watching videos.

if you had said you was short on bandwidth in the first place, I would have understood, why the run around?

QuoteI didn't say that because it's not true, I just don't find this specifc subject interesting enough.

that's ok I know its a scary subject with dark and gruesome connotations

QuoteI doubt it, but it would be great, as the thing I hate the most about videos is that they force people to spend the time in the way they want.

no joy on the transcript unfortunately

your hatred of videos is, they force you to spend the time in a way they want

by they, do  you mean the video's creator ?

QuotePS: sometimes I download YouTube videos to be able to watch them with Media Player Classic or Avidemux, as those allow me better control of the speed at which I watch them.

so you do have a darkside

funbox

the wording screems of a psychologist playground rather than a natural discussion of reason and thought, im backing out of this.

Quote from: robomont on May 18, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
animal mutilation is nothing but special ops sampling tissue,there was lawsuits and ranchers got paid,old x member from here linda howell still pushes it as woo on tv.so thats dead issue.

an issue that has not gone away, continuing still to this day , worldwide I believe, although I cannot account for every single country , but certainly as the land masses go

talking of going , have you taken a trip to the moon yet in your ufo? :D

funbox

Quote from: robomont on May 18, 2016, 10:01:17 PM
the wording screems of a psychologist playground rather than a natural discussion of reason and thought, im backing out of this.

we've not discussed much about the cattle mutilation phenomena or exploded nodes , but that only right really

the thread is about a fake mars mission being hosted on earth :D

funbox

Quotepsychologist playground

im not no psychologist, if you don't like the way I talk , tough

but if I was, ide say you was the edges first, and not to many laid out before you , jigsaw kinda guy

I might also say your not very confrontational ,

here's the jib , feel free to name me in your attacks, im not one to be coy :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 18, 2016, 09:55:49 PM
if you had said you was short on bandwidth in the first place, I would have understood, why the run around?

I don't have any bandwidth problems, my problem is time.

Quotethat's ok I know its a scary subject with dark and gruesome connotations

I don't have problems with that either, I just don't find it interesting enough.

Quoteno joy on the transcript unfortunately

That's a shame, but expected.

Quoteyour hatred of videos is, they force you to spend the time in a way they want

by they, do  you mean the video's creator ?

Yes. You can see what I mean in some YouTube videos in which the first 30 seconds or so are just a kind of presentation of the YouTube channel. Why should I spend 30 seconds watching some stupid animation, many times with just a bad designed logo moving around?

Quoteso you do have a darkside

Don't we all?  ;)

Quote from: funbox on May 18, 2016, 10:27:24 PM
im not no psychologist, if you don't like the way I talk , tough

but if I was, ide say you was the edges first, and not to many laid out before you , jigsaw kinda guy

I might also say your not very confrontational ,

here's the jib , feel free to name me in your attacks, im not one to be coy :D

funbox

no i dont want to get banned. otherwise id make you cry like a baby. im trying to play nice. but with mods blessing, i have no problem drawing excaliber. this place has special meaning to me and i use to act like an ass here, but i came back humble, and to try and breath new life into this place. its sorta my first nest.though some of the birds here dont care for me, i suspect, like you, they tolerate me, mods after a day, you are welcome to delete my post. i just dont like, what i feel to be rudeness, against my friend armap.

Quote from: ArMaP on May 18, 2016, 11:44:49 PM
I don't have any bandwidth problems, my problem is time.

it seems you have a multi reasons for not watching the video

QuoteI don't have problems with that either, I just don't find it interesting enough.

even if they found a jaw stripped cow on mars ? :D

QuoteYes. You can see what I mean in some YouTube videos in which the first 30 seconds or so are just a kind of presentation of the YouTube channel. Why should I spend 30 seconds watching some stupid animation, many times with just a bad designed logo moving around?

ide agree with you , if I had put up such videos

funbox

Quote from: robomont on May 19, 2016, 04:41:29 AM
no i dont want to get banned. otherwise id make you cry like a baby. im trying to play nice. but with mods blessing, i have no problem drawing excaliber. this place has special meaning to me and i use to act like an ass here, but i came back humble, and to try and breath new life into this place. its sorta my first nest.though some of the birds here dont care for me, i suspect, like you, they tolerate me, mods after a day, you are welcome to delete my post. i just dont like, what i feel to be rudeness, against my friend armap.

:D

funbox

Quote from: robomont on May 19, 2016, 04:41:29 AM
no i dont want to get banned. otherwise id make you cry like a baby. im trying to play nice. but with mods blessing, i have no problem drawing excaliber. this place has special meaning to me and i use to act like an ass here, but i came back humble, and to try and breath new life into this place. its sorta my first nest.though some of the birds here dont care for me, i suspect, like you, they tolerate me, mods after a day, you are welcome to delete my post. i just dont like, what i feel to be rudeness, against my friend armap.

my apologies for not being more vocal on your little declaration, been a busy one , but I have some time now.. so , brushing all the blub aside , the crux of the problem is your observations on the way I talk to ArMaP. as far as I can see he can take care of himself . I think ive been chatting like this to ArMaP now for around four years, theres not been to much complaining from him, so I ask you


why do you think ArMaP need mithering ?

as for being banned .. you think this is ats

*a tentacle rips a digital hole into the dark place and drags the ban hammer through*

banned for being a mithering git and having a broken ufo
*the ban hammer slams repeatedly on the ufo, dustification occurs , a sudden breeze then nothing. distant sobbing of robomont, the Bann hammer gently comes down again. a sudden squeak , blissful silence*

funbox

You guys are funny.    :P

Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 19, 2016, 05:50:40 PM
You guys are funny.    :P

banned for having a bigger ban hammer

an no ironic banning me ! :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 19, 2016, 05:53:56 PM
banned for having a bigger ban hammer

an no ironic banning me ! :D

funbox

On a ban meter scale of 1-10 you are a ?? :-[

We have mods here? :o

Quote from: Dyna on May 19, 2016, 06:15:05 PM
On a ban meter of 1-10 you are a ?? :-[

We have mods here? :o

unquantifiable matey ? never

as for the mods at the moment, mulnier's about so i'm treading gently

*winged mfb's skit and dance around Dyna's head, hitting her with inflatable hammers and screaming Banned in deep Scottish accents *

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 19, 2016, 06:19:56 PM
unquantifiable matey ? never

as for the mods at the moment, mulnier's about so i'm treading gently

*winged mfb's skit and dance around Dyna's head, hitting her with inflatable hammers and screaming Banned in deep Scottish accents *

funbox

Band Aid anyone?
(http://s20.postimg.org/3k04l7p7x/bandaid.jpg)

Quote from: funbox on May 19, 2016, 07:57:48 AM
it seems you have a multi reasons for not watching the video

In this specific case, just two, the most important being time.

Quoteeven if they found a jaw stripped cow on mars ? :D

That would make it much more interesting, so my interest in it would win against the time spent watching it. :)

Quote from: funbox on May 19, 2016, 05:00:48 PM
as for being banned .. you think this is ats

You can also be banned from Pegasus, if you don't behave as you should.

Quote from: Dyna on May 19, 2016, 06:15:05 PM
We have mods here? :o

Yes, and administrators too.  :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 19, 2016, 08:55:32 PM
You can also be banned from Pegasus, if you don't behave as you should.

True that :D

Hey, you're alive!

Nice to "see" you again.  :)

Quote from: ArMaP on May 19, 2016, 08:55:32 PM
You can also be banned from Pegasus, if you don't behave as you should.

so you going to allow editing notes at Pegasus ?

I could alter them when a mod writes lies in them, then you could make it the prelude to a hat trick .. but where should the third site be ? GodlikeProductions ?

is it possible to get banned from there ? :D do they even have post edit reasons

funbox

edit because of : wolves chowing down on roast moderator with a sprinkling of administrator, one wolf, perkier than the other's opens a small business supplying stationary and business ties at discount.

So much for the 'Mars rat' on Devon...sigh.    :-\

Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 19, 2016, 11:46:16 PM
So much for the 'Mars rat' on Devon...sigh.    :-\

I think the shelf life of that rat expired ages ago
hmmm got me thinking if a rat ever got a jaw strip and cored out rectum :D

funbox

Quote from: funbox on May 19, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
so you going to allow editing notes at Pegasus ?

What notes? The "reason for edit"? This forum doesn't have that and, if possible, that would be something for the owner to decide.

QuoteI could alter them when a mod writes lies in them, then you could make it the prelude to a hat trick .. but where should the third site be ? GodlikeProductions ?

You could also alter them if they had the truth.

Quoteis it possible to get banned from there ? :D do they even have post edit reasons

From what I have seen, yes, you can be banned from there, as expected.

Quote from: zorgon on May 19, 2016, 09:02:30 PM
True that :D

Welcome back you old fart!!  ;D

Quote from: rdunk on May 20, 2016, 06:51:21 AM
Welcome back you old fart!!  ;D

ditto.i was beginning to think you were just a ghost .
I've been banned about 50 times from glp in just the last month.with my new tech.isps are a dime a dozen.

Robo :)) ! I am glad to see you back here too. Actually it has been a bit slow here on meaningful stuff, but Pegasus does remain a good informative place for us to actually learn something from time to time. Look forward to your posting here what you think we need to know! Of course not too much coming out of "the inventor's group" for a while ~~ :))

I don't do GLP!!

Quote from: robomont on May 20, 2016, 05:51:24 PM
ditto.i was beginning to think you were just a ghost .
I've been banned about 50 times from glp in just the last month.with my new tech.isps are a dime a dozen.

how do you get banned 50 times in a month from there? the place is a cess pool, what was you actually saying, given that some things said on there are out and out vile.

ip spoofing tactics.. interesting..have you changed the macs though in your hardware? :D

funbox

*you weren't playing the ENJOY: YOUR BANNED  game was you?

I card I think you'll find usefull :D play it sparingly

(http://i.imgur.com/uUBPGy1.gif)

;D

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