Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?

[undo11]

bordering on factual... I guess depending on which documentation and archeological evidence you have access to. 

you have access to a different version by chance?

[Captain Dave]

you have access to a different version by chance?

No, no. I just meant that with so much documentation and evidence hidden or missing over the years, mis-translations, flat out fakes, mis-interpretations etc, that it's hard to know the real truth.

The things you've researched and stated seem to be very accurate, but I wonder what is missing due to the afore-mentioned...

Just for arguements sake, say that inhabitants of this planet once reached a point where genetic engineering was possible. The Nephelim could have been just like us but with engineered enhancements.

They could also have been individuals that found a way back from another "dimension" for a lack of better words.

They could have been "left-overs" from previous generations that evolved here.

They could have been from another planet.

They could have been created by "The Living God" and been straight from Heaven?

So I feel like you're on the right track, maybe even 80% or higher accuracy. I can't help feeling like theres so much more to the story though.

[undo11]

No, no. I just meant that with so much documentation and evidence hidden or missing over the years, mis-translations, flat out fakes, mis-interpretations etc, that it's hard to know the real truth.

The things you've researched and stated seem to be very accurate, but I wonder what is missing due to the afore-mentioned...

Just for arguements sake, say that inhabitants of this planet once reached a point where genetic engineering was possible. The Nephelim could have been just like us but with engineered enhancements.

So I feel like you're on the right track, maybe even 80% or higher accuracy. I can't help feeling like theres so much more to the story though.

yeah me too.

i keep getting little hints from the texts about a melding of man and machine.  metal and flesh.  translators have assumed that meant men in armor.  i think it's more than that. 

was interviewing a scholar of the ancient languages, named michael s. heiser.  i asked him what he made of the old testament reference to king david having access to "mighty men", one of which killed 800 men by himself.   in the video series i posted about jesus earlier in the thread, there are more videos leading up to and following the section on jesus.  in it, the lady claims to have evidence that many of the bible patriarchs were in fact, pharaohs and that the info and texts are specifically designed to hide that information, but make it obvious to people who are in the know.  king david, she says, was a pharaoh, as was solomon, joseph, etc.  really fascinating information, believably correlated, with plenty of etymological evidence as well.  it makes so much more sense to me.

like jesus referring to himself as the alpha and omega, is a direct reference to the holder of the crook and flail, which form the shapes of the greek letters for alpha and omega. pretty wild stuff. it also identifies him as the first and the last pharaoh, which is precisely who caesarian was. cleo was not the last pharaoh, caesarian was. 

ironically, he would've had political and hereditary landrights to the entire planet, including the roman empire, and religious and hereditary rights to the messiah title and the land of israel, from the house of david.   he was exactly what they were waiting for -- et.al, a ptolemy pharaoh, related by birth to the tribe of judah, fitting all their requirements for the man who would rule the nations with a "rod" of iron (a reference to the pharaoh's shepherding crook, symbol of his authority over the people as a result of lineage, according to their prophecies).

fascinating stuff. 

[Captain Dave]

In an experience I had when I was younger (1980's), I walked and spoke with a being made of light that looked very very similar to what the show Star Gate portrays as the ancients. I guess the only real difference I noticed was that the face of the being had no human flesh color and was the same color all over including the "clothing".

Now I didn't write any of that down. I spoke with different people about it, but not really that many. I can only guess that others have had similar experiences with the same beings due to the similarities.

The experience I had was down right Biblical in nature, but I never wrote it down. So how much of history is just like that?

( plus try telling people what happened in a situation like that - they think you be coo koo! I was Freaked out - right onto the straight and narrow. People for the most part don't like to be preached to - so I just stopped telling people. Plus, it isn't easy being that good either, society tends to persecute that which is unlike them. So I went back to being "normal". Every great once in awhile something would cause me to tell the tale, but for the most part I just keep it to myself. Better to be silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it lol. )

[undo11]

In an experience I had when I was younger (1980's), I walked and spoke with a being made of light that looked very very similar to what the show Star Gate portrays as the ancients. I guess the only real difference I noticed was that the face of the being had no human flesh color and was the same color all over including the "clothing".

Now I didn't write any of that down. I spoke with different people about it, but not really that many. I can only guess that others have had similar experiences with the same beings due to the similarities.

The experience I had was down right Biblical in nature, but I never wrote it down. So how much of history is just like that?

what did the "being" say?

[Captain Dave]

That it was sent to walk with me through a test of my immortal soul.

( Being of light said - I have been sent to walk with you through a test of your immortal soul. )

[rdunk]

And if I had started this thread, it would have been titled - - God's Flood -Faith or Fiction? Of course, I would not have started it anyway, because I accept on the basis of "faith", that the Biblical account of Noah, and the eventual flood (120 years Noah planned for, and waited on) did happen, just as is stated.

Noah had nothing to do with the flood, other than to prepare for it, and to go through it.

There is at least good Biblical reason for us to not base "fact" upon what can be found and "seen" in all of the ........ologys, because of various Biblical scriptures, including Hebrews 11:3:

-------------------"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.------------------ 

Doesn't that pretty much says to us that "The things that we "see", in all of our "science", may very well not be "the fact of any matter"? God spoke it all into existence, except for man, whom he did made with his hands.

I do understand we are each left to decide for ourselves, what is faith, fact, or fiction, and I do respect that for us all!

[undo11]

here's the videos about the underlying info on the egyptian connection to the bible patriarchs.  i don't agree with everything she says, but she's got some really good information here that i think explains sumerian Enki, Enlil and Anu's connection to Jesus and caesarian.  Amen (as in the egyptian god), i do believe is etymologically related to sumerian Anu.







i don't think the ring mentioned in the last video, supposedly written about in talmud ( talmud is awful ), is a magic ring.  i'll give you 3 guesses what i think it is.

[undo11]

That it was sent to walk with me through a test of my immortal soul.

( Being of light said - I have been sent to walk with you through a test of your immortal soul. )

what was the test?

[Captain Dave]

i don't think the ring mentioned in the last video, supposedly written about in talmud ( talmud is awful ), is a magic ring.  i'll give you 3 guesses what i think it is.

1. The great circle of life (rebirth/reincarnation)
2. Yin/Yang (positive/negative chasing eachother endlessly)
3. The ring of marriage

(etag rats)

[undo11]

Re: the videos i posted above and the trail i had been following regarding the "alpha and omega." if the last pharaoh was caesarian or esa, who was the first pharaoh?  I believe the first pharaoh was Enki.   and that he wasn't a human being, et. al, he wasn't a homosapian.  he was an atum.  it all fits together like a gigantic, millenia sized puzzle.

however,  secret societies think the first pharaoh was osiris because they refuse to admit that the egyptian dynasties predated the flood.  osiris was biblical nimrod, as tons of evidence, and i do mean tons, indicate.  he was also known as akkadian enmerkar and the egyptian narmer, the founder of the post flood egyptian dynasty.    he became a "mighty one" after he was already born.  the dude was genetically modified, while alive.  i don't know what they did to him, but he became a nephilim.

[Captain Dave]

what was the test?

In the test there were two paths to choose from. One a winding path, that was clean and free of obstacles (to my left). One that was straight towards the light (the one that was in front of me.)

There were quite a few different tests.

Whew, long story there. I'll have to write out the whole thing in another thread because many many many things happened.

Long story short... it was about faith & belief in God and how to increase that faith.

( I mean the type of faith where you can walk through anything. Watch your flesh be torn and instantly watch it heal...)

[hobbit]

I take it that nobody actually wants to puzzle out how and why a flood could have occured???
I thought that this thread was about such??
Hobbit

[Captain Dave]

I take it that nobody actually wants to puzzle out how and why a flood could have occured???
I thought that this thread was about such??
Hobbit

Aren't all things tied together in the fabric of the Universe?
             
                                               

I don't really think there is much debate as to whether there was a flood or not? It seems to mainly be about why or how?

What aspect do you see hobbit?

I personally feel that it was an asteroid impact. Does this occur on a regular basis? I would guess that given the spanse of all eternity that yes it happens "regularly".

Why does it happen?

Well ultimately perhaps it's Gods "reset button".  ( Perhaps it's some alien races reset button...  )

Leaving it to science I would think the sheer number of objects being affected by what appears to be violent action from other objects within the Universe that there is no clear way for us to map where/when.

To do so we would have to know all the possible outcomes of every action within a huge area around us. Based on current publicly available knowledge we can only keep our eyes peeled.

Unless "alien" influences are willing to give us their charts and or willing to irradicate any possible threats, it will IMO remain a guessing game.

If we are already advanced enough to take action against impending doom from said asteroids - say within space and at great distance, I have no proof.

The first page of this thread shows what I believe to be large asteroid impacts. If not, what are they? If indeed they are what they appear to be, then would they not cause a wordwide flood?

I suppose diving, dredging and dating materials from within those impact area's would tell us if they are indeed from the same time period as Noah's flood? They could also tell us of other possible time periods where other floods and world changing events have occured?

[hobbit]

Aren't all things tied together in the fabric of the Universe?
             
                                               

I don't really think there is much debate as to whether there was a flood or not? It seems to mainly be about why or how?

What aspect do you see hobbit?

Any flood of water will be as a consequence of a flood of the universal permeating force that enables water to both be below and above your sailing vessel.
That force operates in a duality of spin.

To flood the planet, or large areas of the planet will require a sudden alteration in the fairly constant balance of that duality We have ever in recent history experienced.
It would require either all of the above surface clouds to descend to surface, or for sub surface water to be attracted to an higher level above surface.

IMHO there is no force called gravity, what we term such is a mere local condition relative to this planets surface area presently.

The moon is the big clue in how it enables alteration relative to its location, and in tandem with other solar bodies locations.
IF another presently unknown body came onto the scene as such, then a huge electrical discharge may result in said water level alterations.
hobbit