Noah's Flood - Fact or Fiction?

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hi undo11,

Here are a couple of Mosaics showing some examples of these Glyphs.

The first attachment shows the Letter "Z" on Jesus Gown.

In ION Greek Zeta Alpha Omega as well as Zeta Omega Omega means LIFE.

In the ZION Language "Z" Means LIFE. It is a Rotation of the "N" (To do with the Dance)

The Second shows Letters or Glyphs on these ones Gowns.

There are thousands of other photos on the net showing the ZION Language
displayed in Icons ans Mosaics, in ancient churches, Monasteries, Cathedrals etc.

The written Demotic Egyptian Language also came from The ZION Language.

[undo11]

Hi undo11,

Here are a couple of Mosaics showing some examples of these Glyphs.

The first attachment shows the Letter "Z" on Jesus Gown.

In ION Greek Zeta Alpha Omega as well as Zeta Omega Omega means LIFE.

In the ZION Language "Z" Means LIFE. It is a Rotation of the "N" (To do with the Dance)

The Second shows Letters or Glyphs on these ones Gowns.

There are thousands of other photos on the net showing the ZION Language
displayed in Icons ans Mosaics, in ancient churches, Monasteries, Cathedrals etc.

The written Demotic Egyptian Language also came from The ZION Language.

what about the glyphs connects them to a language not on this planet , found in a book, not on this planet, relating to LIFE (apparently not on this planet?) ?

[1Worldwatcher]

Hello Undo and Matrix, nice to see you both playing "Nicely"!! LOL I have been following this thread with skepticism, but that is because of my personal acceptance of such trivial "Reach for the sky" answer's. There are no real winner's in this pissing contest, only self interpreted ideologies of what  is and what is not self consciously correct.
The whole Noah's ark thing has been left to the translators of such topics, though I do believe that there was something that was suppose too have taken place, and regardless of the A'dam/Adam or any of that kind of affiliation has anything at all too do with the Flood stories, other than they are recorded into religious texts, there is no real bearing of a conclusive and absolute argument.
All religions stem from one incident, that be the Apocryphal moment, it has been essentially lost to time of what had endured such self awareness for the ancients.
It would be very cool if they could produce absolute evidence of the Ark story, but, I have a feeling they never will, not definitively anyway.
Nice too see you both here though...

[The Matrix Traveller]

it's very interesting!
i understand that this flesh body is a primate.  i also understand that i have a spirit body which is not a primate.

This is why I was puzzled by you Comments...

Because you do know the Difference between LIFE and "Flesh".   

 

i still don't know what the language of zion is.

I was trying to explain this to you a few posts ago.

The ZION Language is "The WORD of God". i.e. the Communication of God.

This is why it is Written Jesus was the WORD made Flesh.

In other words God is LIVING Communication...

See "The Gospel According to John" Ch. 1 verses 1 to 13.

He tells you what GOD is.

Now go back to my post referring to The Gospel According to John Ch. 1

Look I am NOT trying to be a know it all I am just trying to share a little knowledge
I received from "The LIGHT" i.e. "The LIFE of GOD".

First here is the "Gama"  for the "G" in English for the Word God.



Second is the "Omega" for the "O"



and the Delta. or "D".



And Now the Glyphs added together to Produce the Geometric Algorithm in ZION,
which is the Root of ALL experienced is produced through
"The WORD of God"..

[The Matrix Traveller]

Hello Undo and Matrix, nice to see you both playing "Nicely"!! LOL I have been following this thread with skepticism, but that is because of my personal acceptance of such trivial "Reach for the sky" answer's. There are no real winner's in this pissing contest, only self interpreted ideologies of what  is and what is not self consciously correct.
The whole Noah's ark thing has been left to the translators of such topics, though I do believe that there was something that was suppose too have taken place, and regardless of the A'dam/Adam or any of that kind of affiliation has anything at all too do with the Flood stories, other than they are recorded into religious texts, there is no real bearing of a conclusive and absolute argument.
All religions stem from one incident, that be the Apocryphal moment, it has been essentially lost to time of what had endured such self awareness for the ancients.
It would be very cool if they could produce absolute evidence of the Ark story, but, I have a feeling they never will, not definitively anyway.
Nice too see you both here though...

Most of this I agree with.... good comments.

But regarding The ZION Language, (NOT Hebrew) now that is a different matter... 

[The Matrix Traveller]

what about the glyphs connects them to a language not on this planet , found in a book, not on this planet, relating to LIFE (apparently not on this planet?) ?

"The Book of LIFE" is found in the Libraries of EVERY Soul Construct.

My Forums are about the "Processing System" of LIFE i.e. "Awareness".

I will be showing HOW to Access "The Book of LIFE".

[undo11]

Hello Undo and Matrix, nice to see you both playing "Nicely"!! LOL I have been following this thread with skepticism, but that is because of my personal acceptance of such trivial "Reach for the sky" answer's. There are no real winner's in this pissing contest, only self interpreted ideologies of what  is and what is not self consciously correct.
The whole Noah's ark thing has been left to the translators of such topics, though I do believe that there was something that was suppose too have taken place, and regardless of the A'dam/Adam or any of that kind of affiliation has anything at all too do with the Flood stories, other than they are recorded into religious texts, there is no real bearing of a conclusive and absolute argument.
All religions stem from one incident, that be the Apocryphal moment, it has been essentially lost to time of what had endured such self awareness for the ancients.
It would be very cool if they could produce absolute evidence of the Ark story, but, I have a feeling they never will, not definitively anyway.
Nice too see you both here though...

  just curious what the criteria is for reading the text, reaching a conclusion about what you read in the text, and sharing it with others, vs.  the "non-self-interpreted" version?  how do you show that your interpretation is not bad just because you interpret it?  what happens the minute somebody interprets something? does it like automatically go bad?

[The Matrix Traveller]

It's not about proving anything at all, but rather the exchange of Knowledge.

After all... ALL comes from the same place.... LIFE NOT the Flesh.   

Sorry I need to go get some "beauty sleep" for this old, old, old body...

I will continue with this later...

Please accept my apologies...

[undo11]

It's not about proving anything at all, but rather the exchange of Knowledge.

After all... ALL comes from the same place.... LIFE NOT the Flesh.   

didn't ask you that question. 
i need to know, what qualifies some people to have interpretations but not others?  is there some super secret magic word ?

[The Matrix Traveller]

didn't ask you that question. 
i need to know, what qualifies some people to have interpretations but not others?  is there some super secret magic word ?

Sorry we got out of sync I was answering to 1Worldwatcher ...   

re... It's not about proving anything at all, but rather the exchange of Knowledge.

After all... ALL comes from the same place.... LIFE NOT the Flesh.   

[The Matrix Traveller]

Now... I neeeeeed that "beauty sleep".... 

[1Worldwatcher]

just curious what the criteria is for reading the text, reaching a conclusion about what you read in the text, and sharing it with others, vs.  the "non-self-interpreted" version?

There is nothing tangible for any texts that were written, we have to remember that these stories were once thought of as lore by the very people that covet them today. They simply took the words for what they were conveying as most religions and cults have done for century's.
Not only that, this has nothing to do with the Ark story, if it was proven to be accurate with the deluge, then the story or incident you are speaking of didn't take place during that time period, it was much, much earlier and later depending who the actor is on the stage of conversation.

how do you show that your interpretation is not bad just because you interpret it?

I have interpreted nothing. I was merely pointing out the irresistible need to be correct of such matters. Matrix has a very good idea of what is being discussed, but it still doesn't pertain to the whole Ark story. Not saying your argument doesn't or shouldn't be merited, just that the time lines are absolutely obscured from one event too another.
That's all.

what happens the minute somebody interprets something? does it like automatically go bad?

With out tangible evidence? Without full comprehension of all viable facts and evidence's too back them up? As I have said before, religions are derived from one and the same. It had a beginning, meaning 1 religion, and then from there it was distributed for the world as we know it today.
I usually don't talk religion-s, But I have been reading the posts here and wonder when we are going to get back on topic of OP thread. "Noah's Ark fact or Faked"?
What Jesus, Adam or A'dam have to do with the Ark is beyond my current understanding of such tales, but I think I know enough that the people mentioned were all related to Noah in one way or another, but weren't there for the deluge that was the new beginning of mankind.
Sorry if I came across wrong, I was merely stating my observation.
With respects,
1Worldwatcher

[undo11]

There is nothing tangible for any texts that were written, we have to remember that these stories were once thought of as lore by the very people that covet them today. They simply took the words for what they were conveying as most religions and cults have done for century's.
Not only that, this has nothing to do with the Ark story, if it was proven to be accurate with the deluge, then the story or incident you are speaking of didn't take place during that time period, it was much, much earlier and later depending who the actor is on the stage of conversation.

I have interpreted nothing. I was merely pointing out the irresistible need to be correct of such matters. Matrix has a very good idea of what is being discussed, but it still doesn't pertain to the whole Ark story. Not saying your argument doesn't or shouldn't be merited, just that the time lines are absolutely obscured from one event too another.
That's all.

With out tangible evidence? Without full comprehension of all viable facts and evidence's too back them up? As I have said before, religions are derived from one and the same. It had a beginning, meaning 1 religion, and then from there it was distributed for the world as we know it today.
I usually don't talk religion-s, But I have been reading the posts here and wonder when we are going to get back on topic of OP thread. "Noah's Ark fact or Faked"?
What Jesus, Adam or A'dam have to do with the Ark is beyond my current understanding of such tales, but I think I know enough that the people mentioned were all related to Noah in one way or another, but weren't there for the deluge that was the new beginning of mankind.
Sorry if I came across wrong, I was merely stating my observation.
With respects,
1Worldwatcher

just out of curiosity, is there a tanglible, verifiable fact, older than like 1 minute ago?

[Littleenki]

First of all, WELCOME!
Indeed, 1WW, it's a quagmire of possibilities from the first moment in creation, as like with any tale passed from mouth to ear to print by us humans, will become a totally different story when it reaches the last person.

Yet, to achieve the progression of understanding we have, to declare something"definitively impossible to know" is practically impossible itself in this particular instance, as here on Pegasus, we are all about getting answers as to WHY?

Final decisons, and ominous declarations of any phase of this conversation will cause that progression to wane, and it isnt the direction for someone who has true interest in this subject to walk in. 

As far as ancient texts and the books of whatever religion are concerned,  semantics and non- stonewritten glyphery makes it all that much more mysterious for the next translator to grasp, and the twisting of the knowledge begins right there.

Undo and Matrix are both right in their views, and with good reason, they have been doing this research for years, and have seen the truth in the writings amongst the falsehoods, and disinformation.

Stonewritten Glyphs versus texts.

Those glyphs, in their pure form, such as most any found in the world, are just as they were written when carved into the stone they imprint.

Stonewritten glyphs havent been changed at all, and you know what they say, "If you want something to mean something to the next generation...carve it in stone."

So it's in our wheelhouse to open our minds, and accept that these glyphs are the only solid scripture there will ever be.
Steer your vessel into that channel of truth, and youll never hit bottom.
Glyphs are forever. An invitation to see what the folks back then were thinking, and decipher it how we may.
The glyphs still dont change, no matter what we determine them to say.
If we make the wrong translation of them, scribes dont rewrite them into the stone, as they do with texts. Unfortunately, glyphs can mean a dozen different things geographically speaking, and many glyphs are the same for different words within closely located ancient societies.

Now, when we approach the runway of texts, we can only skid off into the field of our own poor translations, and to fully translate any ancient text, is nearly impossible without a firm knowledge of the times, and the people who wrote them.

A firm knowledge of the times?
Undo has definitely met that criteria.
As has Matrix.

This knowledge of historical past, shows the timeline of why texts may have been changed, and how theses changes were translated and integrated into their history.

Thats important to see where they changed or altered the texts for their own desires, as many societies added and removed parts of their own historical texts, when a new leader or figure became prominent, and had a different doctrine than the last.

I could bandy on about how ancient texts may as well be toilet paper for our minds, but I dont think they are totally corrupted, and I know Undo is the best person Ive met to make any sense of the Biblical scriptures, within a reality mindset.
She clearly has done her homework, and is extremely well versed in the corellations of Egyptian mythology and history, and the writings of the Bible, which if you really look hard, are one in the same.

And, as you will see through your trips on the PRC, Matrix is one person who is in touch with the purest form of life itself, the mind and it's power over everything.
Is his knowledge just something different from the rest, or is it possible he's seeing the very truth within our texts scribes have spent so much ink on scratching out and mutating from the originals, and have so corrupted, as to be useless in anyway?

That star of David is a definite indicator of good and bad, light and dark, or male and female...your choice! A perfect translation 'tis!

Wait and see 1WW, as this story has been discussed and thrown around for millenia, and we wont be solving it today. Keep that mind open, and try to allow the real knowledge bubbles to percolate to the surface.

Cheers, and welcome to Pegasus,:D
Littleenki

[undo11]

let me see, how do we connect the dots between the atum and the flood?  well, the atum are the elohim.   the torah lists them as separate.  the atum ends up being only a single human male in the text.  the elohim ends up being only a single male god, who just so happens to only like male hebrews most of the time.   

closer examination reveals, that perhaps, elohim was not a single god and that adam was more than one guy as well.  and not just more than one guy ,but an entire race of males and females, created/copied/cloned in the image of the elohim (atum).

it's even possible all the races on the planet are accounted for in the story, not as a result of descending directly from the singular adam of the torah, but as a result of descending from some adam of the torah.  more than one. which means, if you follow that line of thinking, more than one racial group would've had a noah equivalent too or there would be no racial groups other than noah's original family.  the torah is the story of ONE family tree because it just happens to be a very important family tree.

now let's tie that to sumerian-akkadian texts.
the elohim are the atum are the anunnaki.
ALL the same.  some have said, the flood has completely natural causes, so there's no need for generating angry gods to explain it.   if you say so.  there's certainly enough documentation now to verify it happened so the real crux of the argument has turned from "prove it happened" to "prove it has anything to do with a supernatural god".