Connecticut shooting and gun control debate

[ichiban]

Two points about that:
1 - today, the US looks like the only country that still uses the military to take over other countries, most countries have "evolved" to commercial take-overs.
2 - people in the US, apparently, can only feel united when they face a common enemy, when they do not have a common enemy they see enemies everywhere.

Well, in regards to #1, I think that there are other countries that are still perceived as military aggressors, but I will concede that the US and Israel are in the biggest spotlight.
As far as #2 goes, I must say that it is hard to argue with that.  It seems to be true.  However, I'd say that the media and the government are largely culpable for this.

[Eighthman]

As to US aggression, we can only hope that:  1) the world's drift towards dropping the dollar as a reserve currency,   2)  building exposure of war crimes and  3)  the decline of Israel as a trigger  all contribute to keeping this country out of other people's business.

Obama should be appreciated for his lack of enthusiasm for intervention.

[Pimander]

Are you trying to link not having guns with paedophilia? 

Europe are sinking into decay whereas our brothers over the pond who are 3 times as likely to murder than we are are just keeping it so much more civilised.  Black and white?  Come on, get a grip.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

You are 4 times, get this now, 4 times as likely to die in a car accident than you are by a gun. So stop driving and you might live longer.

[robomont]

guns rule.
its called mutual assured destruction.
plus if its a good shot ,death is quick and painless.
verses a bomb or a fatal knife wound to the back or stomach
yes americans  at least show mercy when we murder.

there is no way for even our government to truly police us.
we are an armed mob.
we are both thrilled by extreme violence and humbled by it.
all it takes is a spark.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Yes we Americans are a mob. We murder with our cars by the thousands every day. Obama drops drone bombs on Yemen & Pakistani children every day. Yes we are a mob. Please.. Stop the vehicle carnage.

[spacemaverick]

Yes we Americans are a mob. We murder with our cars by the thousands every day. Obama drops drone bombs on Yemen & Pakistani children every day. Yes we are a mob. Please.. Stop the vehicle carnage.

Sgt. Rock is right, stop vehicle carnage.  People kill other people with knives, cars, bats, fists, and on and on.  Should we ban everything?  Israeli's bomb Palestinians and vice versa.  Where does it stop; that is the question.  How can we slow it down or stop it is the next question...we are not the only mob in this world.  Human nature is the big enemy.  IMHO

[spacemaverick]

the gun is just a tool, if someone wants to kill someone else,  they'll find a way...Just a sad day....

Sgt. Rock hit the nail on the head.  If someone wants to kill, they will find another way.  Having worked in law enforcement and corrections for the past 20 years, I have been privy to working in close proximity to the worst of society.  They will find a way...believe me.  In the county I live we have School Resource Officers in some of our schools which helps.  The teachers have a specific set of procedures to follow and they are drilled in these procedures.  Does that mean nothing will happen?  No, but at least they have a plan and a procedure.

[robomont]

budgets get cut for the mentally ill and things go bad.
weekly supervision with somekind of workshops has helped my wife and i believe it is the way .
this makes them feel accepted in society and provides a since of hope.
we all need it as we are an example.
they are the natural outcast ,its easy to write them off until its too late.
living it first hand.but the best wife a man could ever want.

or we can run to the nanny state and ban butter knives and glass.

[petrus4]

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[ArMaP]

Britain (and Europe) are sinking into tyranny and decay.

Too bad we don't have a LOL smiley...

[Pimander]

Too bad we don't have a LOL smiley...

If more Americans actually left USA, many would be shocked to discover that we have everything they have - just less violence, racism, homophobia, and more liberalism.

As I say, it aint black and white.

Without Britain and the USA Western Europe would be a NAZI fascist run dictatorship.  So Europe has a lot to thank the USA for.  However, a superior culture America does not have.

[ArMaP]

Without Britain and the USA Western Europe would be a NAZI fascist run dictatorship.

Don't forget the Soviet Union.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

My last word on this.

Some nut job goes an kills innocents, and your answer to that is to take away my right to defend myself. Your answer to this madness is to make me and my family defenseless?

[Pimander]

My last word on this.

Some nut job goes an kills innocents, and your answer to that is to take away my right to defend myself. Your answer to this madness is to make me and my family defenseless?

You'll never get it will you?  You are far MORE LIKELY to be murdered in your country because of your gun laws. So are children who do not have the right to own guns.

We have few guns and few murders.  But don't worry, I know you will not grasp the fact that the solution to people being shot is NOT more guns.