America under DNS servers attack

[Gigas]

I used to hang at Alpha Tango Spookz till I discovered they were infecting visitors. I had used an old machine with windows me and it was so jazzed up from there that I finally bought a new vista computer and that was when I seen what was happening.

Vista caught them installing some software of sorts that I should have taken a screen shot but was so frantic in protecting my new machine I clicked it off and from that time I installed a firewall with the ability to see web beacons for tracking and there it was. They tracked me and some others but not all logins.

I posted a thread on it and of course septic overflow denied it and tried to turn it around by saying I was blocking their ads which was against their tos. So they obviously knew what they was a doin and tried to cover their azz'z by turning the issue into me doing the tos violation.

I had people there contact me to see if they were tracked and I told those who wanted to know whether they were or were not. Funny how many were all zombie and refused to believe me but fell right in with septic overflow as they went about business as usual.

To this day I stay away from Alpha Tango Spookz and only land there from an obfuscated link.

Along time ago I had a small little insignificant software to monitor the internet traffic into and out of my pc. The software developer went into my pc and uninstalled it, remotely.

I ran a server from home once and that got wiped clean with file deletions. That was only a honey pot to see what would happen and it happened rather quick.

Even running a firewall doesn't help.



This was when they did the John Lear purge.

[astr0144]

Thanks for further insight of your unfortunate experiences Gigas...

seems ATS were an utter ASS...Maybe they should be titled more like  "Above Secret Security  (ASS)" or something similar..

It is very annoying if Firewalls are also invalid with regards to certain things...

It appears that it is Very Hard to know what to do to try and protect ones self ! 

Just incase one missed it, I also added some comments about Keylogging monitoring on my prior post to this thread.

Even running a firewall doesn't help.

[ArMaP]

Or if one had what is known as a OPT in Form on the webpage.. that is for someone to sign up for something like further information on something... ie one would send their name and email address to ask for more information...that a hacker could just as easily send the virus through the opt in form..and I assume that this could infect everything / every webpage on the host server site...

Then if anyone was to click on that webpage their computer would become infected..like mine did..

If I understand what you are saying right, that happens when the form is not protected against things like that. An opt-in form (or any other form) on a web page sends information back to the server, so someone changes the information that is sent they can, if the site doesn't check the input data, send code instead of sending their name or email address.

If that information is supposed to be presented in a web page to other people (like comments on a blog, for example), the "injected" code will be sent to all the people viewing the page, so they may be affected by that.

[ArMaP]

I used to hang at Alpha Tango Spookz till I discovered they were infecting visitors. I had used an old machine with windows me and it was so jazzed up from there that I finally bought a new vista computer and that was when I seen what was happening.

Vista caught them installing some software of sorts that I should have taken a screen shot but was so frantic in protecting my new machine I clicked it off and from that time I installed a firewall with the ability to see web beacons for tracking and there it was. They tracked me and some others but not all logins.

Can you provide any real evidence of that?

[robomont]

Lol.gettem armap.i knew you would jump on this.
I think they run tracking cookies but im not a comp geek.
I know that i use to stop download at 90% because the last 10% was where all the "crap"was.it was so bad sometimes it would lock up my phone.the new software there has improved things but i dont go there but about once a month.

[astr0144]

Hi ArMap,

I think what you are indicating is what you think you understand with regards to the comments that I made, that you want to confirm if what I was saying refers to what you have wrote..

If so as far as I know , YES !

If I recall, when one fills in an OPT -In- Form they are connected to the web host server with some code that connects to what is known as an autoresponder....

Autoresponder companies run these to allow anyone to send pre-written messages to anyone who signs up with there Name and Email address in order to say obtain Further information , or a free book or Free report that type of thing etc..

I THINK it may have been my Web Hosting companies support team that explained that Virus codes could be sent through such a form, so say instead of inputting ones name.. a hacker may send some code instead containing the virus...

I am NOT quite sure if by doing this , if it may be able to also effect the autoresponder companies who provide such a service or they may be protected especially the more well known ones...

It may not even affect them..or they may just have them protected.

It may have been also I was using a FREE hence Cheap  autoresponder service at the time who may not have any protection... I am not really exactly sure how they operate..

Its a while since I was trying to deal with such forms.. that usually are added to ones webpage in a HTML code to add a form and link it to the autoresponder companies message sending service.

Hope this explains..

If I understand what you are saying right, that happens when the form is not protected against things like that. An opt-in form (or any other form) on a web page sends information back to the server, so someone changes the information that is sent they can, if the site doesn't check the input data, send code instead of sending their name or email address.

If that information is supposed to be presented in a web page to other people (like comments on a blog, for example), the "injected" code will be sent to all the people viewing the page, so they may be affected by that.

[Gigas]

Can you provide any real evidence of that?

Of what, John Lear was run off from spookzville, or that they were tracking certain people.

Of course, what I reported is first hand experience. Not some one said, not hear say, but as it happened, to me as I watched them shred John Lear.

Are you insinuating it never happened?

You may wanna check in with Zorgon since I alerted him to what they were doing and even he had doubt, and even then, he wanted to stay in the shadows of the high wire act till shown the door.

Those in denial, will remain true to denial, protecting their programming, no matter how conclusive, the evidence presented.

It went down just how I said it did.

[zorgon]

Can you provide any real evidence of that?

Yeah  log in to ATS without signing in and watch what all comes down those ads etc

And watch your task bar and see what all gets loaded when you view a page.

[zorgon]

Okay so update....

Connected TVs, fridge help launch global cyberattack

(CNN) -- It's bad enough that we have to fear identity thieves who are trying to scam us with malicious messages sent from PCs.

We now must worry about being targeted by our household appliances, as well.
An Internet-security firm has discovered what they are calling a global cyberattack launched from more than 100,000 everyday consumer gadgets such as home-networking routers, televisions and at least one "smart" refrigerator.

It's being called possibly the first proven cyberattack to originate from connected appliances -- the so-called "Internet of Things."

THIS explains why only some people were effected. It also explains why my daughter could get into the site and I couldn't or from wife's comp.   It targeted IP blocks on only certain devices  maybe she wasn't online when the attack cam.

It explains why the server said everything was fine.

Rebooting the router and cable modem gives me a new IP within 24 hours so when I got up in the morning everything was back to normal
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[robomont]

What i dont understand is why great britain and france are getting it harder than the rest of us.even russia and china have almost wiped it out per that website that shows attacks.

[ArMaP]

Of what, John Lear was run off from spookzville, or that they were tracking certain people.

No, that "they were infecting visitors" and that they were "installing some software of sorts".

Are you insinuating it never happened?

No, I don't do that "insinuating" thing, when I want to say something I say it, I was just asking if you have real evidence of that happening.

You may wanna check in with Zorgon since I alerted him to what they were doing and even he had doubt, and even then, he wanted to stay in the shadows of the high wire act till shown the door.

You alerted him of what?

[ArMaP]

Yeah  log in to ATS without signing in and watch what all comes down those ads etc

The ads are as much from ATS as the Amazon link on Pegasus is from Pegasus.

And watch your task bar and see what all gets loaded when you view a page.

I don't remember seeing any thing being loaded on the task bar just from visiting any site, except pop-unders and Java applets or ActiveX controls (when I accept them).

[robomont]

Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.

I dont mean this in a bad way but im curious Armap.why do you try protect atx so aggressively.do you have financial or personal interest with them?
Ive known you a few years now and they are to you like pegasus is to me.

[ArMaP]

Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.

I agree, and that happens even with other ATS members and even moderators, I never had any problems like that in the almost 11 years I have been visiting ATS, either as a visitor (at the beginning), a member or a moderator. One thing I know is different is the targeted advertising, as ATS has few Portuguese members (at the moment I remember 3 or 4 active members), and the adverts are the cause of most complaints I have seen.

I dont mean this in a bad way but im curious Armap.why do you try protect atx so aggressively.

Because, to me, those accusations are serious and not proven, saying that they are infecting other people's computers is not the same thing as stating our opinions about some of the members' personalities.

do you have financial or personal interest with them?

I wish I had financial interest, that way I could get some money, it would be very handy.

Ive known you a few years now and they are to you like pegasus is to me.

That's the funny thing, to me, ATS and Pegasus are the same, forums with topics and members that I like. Both have things I don't like, but nothing special.

[Gigas]

Its almost like armap has a different experience on ats than most of us.

I dont mean this in a bad way but im curious Armap.why do you try protect atx so aggressively.do you have financial or personal interest with them?
Ive known you a few years now and they are to you like pegasus is to me.

Doesn't he mod there still or has in the past.