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Ukrainian - Russian conflict is all over the news as I am sure you all are aware of.

I have been wondering once again, what the truth really is behind the narrative.......


One thing I keep hearing is that Putin is actually a white hat and is standing up to Deep State Cabal. 

He has no interest in a One World Government, nor having his neighbouring countries being associated with such an agenda.

so here we go down the rabbit hole.......


First thing I find is that Volodymyr Zelensky is a comedian turned puppet president for Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Agenda.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ9iHTuYnbc


So when I hear Putin say his agenda is to free the Ukraine from its Nazi occupiers it has a whole total meaning.

Other thoughts?????

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukraine-biological-weapons/

Then there are reports of a Bio weapons lab near the Russina border that was one of the first targets of the Russian military.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMVbpELXMAMFRdH?format=jpg&name=small


https://vaticancatholic.com/russian-strikes-targeting-us-run-bio-labs-in-ukraine/

The Russians also secured Chernobyl....makes one wonder if there is more to that. 

.Thank you Micjer for confirming that you could access Martins website ok..with no messages.
I think the age issue is something to do with just my network.. unless its also now a overall UK issue.

QuoteNo problem for me Astro and no mention of age to access.

In Terms of What you say about Putin and Ukraines Leader..

Having read some of Martin Armstrongs Articals the other day before my present access to his website problem.

I Thought that I managed to copy some of his articles about his views on the Situation...and one article also gave a good description about what Martin believed was occurring and why ... and also he explained in quite some detail about the Ukraines leaders Volodymyr Zelensky background..

One Article I think I did post on the other Covid thread...

But I cannot seem to find the copy of the other article.. but it was posted this Month on Martins website..maybe in the last 2 weeks.

IF I recall , yes he suggested that Putin had certain issues of how Volodymyr Zelensky was aiming to lead or control his Country and Putin made comments that many residents living there are still classed as Russian Citizens.

Then there mention of whether or not Putin wanted to turn some things back to the older ways..but not in a
negative way.. what ever that should mean... whether its to do with Communism, Markism..ways..
that either he wants to prevent occurring in Ukraine or to changes things back as they were in some ways
before the Countries in Russia split..

The other suggestions is that Putin is risking acting now as he believes that the west is much  weaker that has been for some years... ie since Trump was removed from power in the USA..
Europe with its Brexit issues... Covid etc...

That maybe he considered his risks to act now was a better time to do so.. with less chance of full strength opposition being acted against him.

Managed to find a copy of what I posted on the other Covid thread..


The Simple Solution to Ukraine

Martin Armstrong has posted some articles about the Ukraine situation ...
which many  people may not know whats really been going on...and he suggests that the
leader of the Ukraine seems to be at Fault and that some of their people still have Russian
connections of which Putin has concerns over as to why he maybe invading.so it may not
be down to some threats that may had been suggested by the media, and could be due to
somethings that we may have not known about.

Martin believes that he may have the Solution.

Quote
    COMMENT: You are wrong. Putin is the aggressor.

    SK

    REPLY: Look, the Minsk Agreement has dragged on for 8 years. You cannot simply blame Putin. Ukraine has refused to allow the people to vote on their own future. That is a denial of any democratic process and a denial of freedom. So now the propaganda that Putin is invading to deny freedom or democracy. It takes TWO to reach an agreement – not ONE!

    The solution has been staring the world in the face. Let the people vote and decide their own fate. That would remove any excuse Putin would have to protect Russians if they voted to be Ukrainians. I was with a Ukrainian friend in Greece and they refused to even take a flight home that connected through Moscow. The resentment runs very deep and it is certainly justified thanks to Stalin.

    Let me make this very clear. Zelensky is by no means doing this alone. The West desperately needs a diversion from COVID because politicians will never admit a mistake. But Zelensky is a fool. The West is willing to sacrifice even all of Ukraine if it then secures all the elections here in 2022 for those facing the public after COVID. The typical sales pitch will be you need them because now Putin is the threat, and you do not change horses in the middle of a river.

    Let the people vote and abide by their vote. That would remove ANY excuse to invade Ukraine. If Putin then invades, then you can call him the aggressor. The solution is simple. It is staring out us straight in the eye. Territorial borders are a throwback to imperialism. These regions are ethnically Russian. But politicians need war. They will lie and twist facts to create the justification for war. Ukraine is not a one-sided affair. It takes two to tango as they say.

Quote
So when I hear Putin say his agenda is to free the Ukraine from its Nazi occupiers it has a whole total meaning.

Other thoughts?????

 Finally, someone who knows what is happening in Ukraine. Putin it the good guy. We, Biden and Ukraine and
sanctions, have pushed Russia to the point of war. The pipeline and expanding nato, was just too much. We can
and must solve our differences. All news outlets want war. We have to have an agreement that works for all.
    Wes

Quote from: astr0144 on February 26, 2022, 05:40:21 PM
Then there mention of whether or not Putin wanted to turn some things back to the older ways..but not in a
negative way.. what ever that should mean... whether its to do with Communism, Markism..ways..
that either he wants to prevent occurring in Ukraine or to changes things back as they were in some ways
before the Countries in Russia split..

Putin is not a Communist, far from it, so I doubt he wants to go back to the Communism or Marxism ways.

I cannot know his real intentions, but it's a fact that there are many Russians living in Eastern Ukraine. It's also true that Ukraine never allowed a referendum regarding those regions' future. Unlike Catalonia in Spain, who isn't allowed a referendum regarding their independence either, these regions are full of people from a different country (Russia), so they can have support from that other country.

How much of what we see/read is true or lie, I cannot know, but I suspect things are not quite what they say when I see news like this:
Germany increases military spending for war against Russia (https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/02/19/germ-f19.html)
Macron tells French farmers: Ukraine war will weigh on you, and it will last (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/macron-tells-french-farmers-ukraine-war-will-weigh-you-it-will-last-2022-02-26/)
I get even more doubts about their good intentions.

This thread and the corona thread are intertwined in an agenda.

That agenda is global dominance and global de population.

Putin is not part of that agenda, but the MSM of most of the world are part of the agenda.

Lies Lies and damned lies.

Kevin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz5cNzgF1-U

Wish this man would step up to be voted for.

Kevin

 

Unfortunately, with not being able look at Martin Armstrongs website, I cannot recheck in more detail what he said.

and I was not sure if he was suggesting the the Ukraine leader may refer to maybe having some communist / marxist views... that he may have issues with.. maybe as Martin Armstrong suggests that the Ukraine people
maybe cannot vote.

It also maybe also that Putin did not like it when parts of Russia split, and when it was suggested Putin may want some things to go back to some of the old ways.. I dont think that includes Communism..
whether it ay mean rejoining some of the split countries back in the Hands of Russia or not I am not sure.
It also refers to that a lot of the Split Countries are still a lot of Russian people.

QuoteUkraine has refused to allow the people to vote on their own future. That is a denial of any democratic process and a denial of freedom.

   

QuoteArMaP : Putin is not a Communist, far from it, so I doubt he wants to go back to the Communism or Marxism ways.

Quotewhether its to do with Communism, Markism..ways..
that either he wants to prevent occurring in Ukraine or to changes things back as they were in some ways before the Countries in Russia split..

There was some suggestion I read somewhere that maybe Russia has a main oil supply to Germany that they may cut off if Germany retaliate which could create severe cold winter issues for them... and there also some suggested threats to some other countries from Russia towards, I think such as Sweden..Norway maybe.

QuoteArMaP
How much of what we see/read is true or lie, I cannot know, but I suspect things are not quite what they say when I see news like this: Germany increases military spending for war against Russia

Also suggestions that Britain may become under severe Russian cyber attacks...

QuoteRussian cyber attacks could 'sabotage' everyday life for British people.
Former head of National Cyber Security Centre said there are risks of Vladimir Putin's cyber 'bombardment' reaching the West...  I am unable to copy the full article ..

It could become a rather complex Chess Game.

I am wondering if maybe somehow Martin Armstrongs website maybe being effected somehow in relation to
such sort of things, either by the UK Gov or Russia maybe  IF I were to find out others in the UK could not
access his website..

ast0144,

I have no problems accessing that site.

Kevin in middle England.

You must have just read my mind Kevin..

IF you had not answered  just now, I was considering sending you a PM to ask if you confirm to me if you was able to access it.  So I appreciate your reply.

At least I now know.. It seems like its probably my Network creating the problem.
although they claims its the Govt requiring them to use a form of age varification system to certain websites..
even NON Adult content ones...

Other than offering me to use a facial recognition system... they offered me also another option..
which was to send me a email with a form to fill in... they said they were sending it to me..
but it has not arrived.

Why all of sudden, its occurring with this particular website.. I am not sure.. BUT also occurred on another website
I visit for a couple of days.. then things went back to normal and did not require any age confirmation.

Quote from: kevin on February 26, 2022, 10:51:22 PM
ast0144,

I have no problems accessing that site.

Kevin in middle England.

Quote from: astr0144 on February 26, 2022, 10:23:39 PM
and I was not sure if he was suggesting the the Ukraine leader may refer to maybe having some communist / marxist views... that he may have issues with.. maybe as Martin Armstrong suggests that the Ukraine people
maybe cannot vote.

They can vote, that's how their president got elected, the problem is that do not allow a referendum for the people to say their opinion about those mainly Russian areas to be independent/autonomous/remain part of Ukraine.

QuoteIt also refers to that a lot of the Split Countries are still a lot of Russian people.

That happens mostly with Ukraine and Belarus, if I'm not mistaken.

QuoteThere was some suggestion I read somewhere that maybe Russia has a main oil supply to Germany that they may cut off if Germany retaliate which could create severe cold winter issues for them... and there also some suggested threats to some other countries from Russia towards, I think such as Sweden..Norway maybe.

It's natural gas. Russia has been the main supplier of natural gas to the north-European countries for some years now. Germany stopped the certification of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, so it cannot be activated, resulting in Russia not selling that gas and Europe not getting that gas to use, mostly, in heating.
The other natural gas producing countries have already stated that they do not have the capacity to produce enough gas to supply all the demand in Europe.
As a kind of PS, Portugal and other south Europe countries get their natural gas from north Africa, but we are going to be affected by the increase in prices.

QuoteAlso suggestions that Britain may become under severe Russian cyber attacks...

As if Russians are the only hackers in the World...

QuoteI am wondering if maybe somehow Martin Armstrongs website maybe being effected somehow in relation to
such sort of things, either by the UK Gov or Russia maybe  IF I were to find out others in the UK could not
access his website..

He's not important enough for that.

.On previously reading some of Martin Armstrongs articles..

on one of them he seemed to suggest that the Ukraine people could NOT vote..
But on another article he does make ref to them having voted (At least within the last 5 years or so)

But you are probably right in them not being allowed to have a referendum.

In ref to me not being able to access Martins website... I am now even more confused...
I tried a different device and could access it... BUT the normal Laptop im using... I cannot access it..
So why that would be I dont know. unless Ive picked up some form of virus or spyware related to it.

BUT as I could access it on another device..but I am unable to post from it..
I have found ref to the article that I have been referring to on Martins website.

It was posted on Feb 22nd... and titled
Volodymyr Zelensky  :  The man intent on creating WW3
If anyone can find and  copy and paste it... Id appreciate it..

f you are willing or able to read it.. It gives quite a detailed description of whats occurred over the last few years.
which seems rather complex... with comments having been made the some of the previously leaders were set up
and removed.. or there were rumors of CIA plots.. or that the West choose who they wanted to put in power.
To the People Voted whoever in... where Putin May dispute who the leader really is or should be..

SO It may not be that straight forward.

QuoteThey can vote, that's how their president got elected, the problem is that do not allow a referendum for the people to say their opinion about those mainly Russian areas to be independent/autonomous/remain part of Ukraine.

I thought Id read it was Oil, but Nat Gas still relates to a heating energy source.
But there was nothing suggesting Germany had done as you describe.. Ill have to recheck what was said if I can.

QuoteIt's natural gas. Russia has been the main supplier of natural gas to the north-European countries for some years now. Germany stopped the certification of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, so it cannot be activated, resulting in Russia not selling that gas and Europe not getting that gas to use, mostly, in heating

NO,   but there is suggestions it could be more likely to be them if the UK was to react against them.
or other other hackers elsewhere could be acting on their side.

QuoteAs if Russians are the only hackers in the World...

Why would you say that ?

How would he compare with anyone else who discusses such things as he does.
If he was actually exposing certain things that Govts or Russia was not happy about, may target him.
He also makes out , his Cycles system is desired by various Govts...

QuoteHe's not important enough for that.

Good content in this about how corona and Ukraine are just pawns in the very richest of global games.
https://nworeport.me/2022/02/25/order-out-of-chaos-how-the-ukraine-conflict-is-designed-to-benefit-globalists/
Order out of chaos

Kevin

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 12:42:04 PM
Why would you say that ?

Because you are the only person I have seen talking about him, as far as I remember.

If he was someone whose comments appeared in the media from time to time, it would be different.

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 12:42:04 PM
In ref to me not being able to access Martins website... I am now even more confused...
I tried a different device and could access it... BUT the normal Laptop im using... I cannot access it..
So why that would be I dont know. unless Ive picked up some form of virus or spyware related to it.

That's strange. Do you use the same browser on both or are they different? That may be the source of your problem.

Meanwhile, here's a link for that article stored on the Internet Archive.

Volodymyr Zelensky – The Man Intent on Creating World War III (https://web.archive.org/web/20220222200528/https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/volodymyr-zelensky-the-man-intent-on-creating-world-war-iii/)

I am not going to post any thing from that site because I don't know what is the copyright situation on that site.

QuoteSO It may not be that straight forward.

Things in real life are usually not as straightforward as the media presents them, as "common people" are not interesting in spending enough time to understand complex situations.

Hi ArMaP,

Maybe that depends on how one may view things.
Many people who post online suggest Never trust the Media !

and the Media may not want to Post certain claimed experts material especially if they had a past background
that may have upset or tried to expose various Authorities or media in the past who may take certain views that
dont always tend to copy cat what often numerous media companies often tend to do.. which is to almost repeat
identically what another media source has said on a topic.

I am not saying he is perfect in his views or content by any means.. But I do think he does have quite vast knowledge to do do with past history and how it relates to many Worldwide Polictical issues.

I suppose most of us initially look to the media for general initial content or material for certain news stories
or topics.

BUT I dont many of us on PRC always trust what the media says !  or do we more trust other sources maybe ?
NOT ALWAYS either.... SO Do always conclude or end up  just with alternative views to consider and make our
own judgements...

CAN I ask is there anyone that you may rate who you may see as someone who stands out to be 
maybe more trusted or what ever than the general media or anyone else for that matter on certain
types of topics that we tend to discuss on PRC ?

QuoteBecause you are the only person I have seen talking about him, as far as I remember.

If he was someone whose comments appeared in the media from time to time, it would be different.

Now I am even more severely puzzled.   ???

I am using Firefox.. and normally overall it opens most websites that I visit ok.
I also have google chrome.. but For some reason in the last few Months.. something has happened with it ..
I can open certain websites with it ok... BUT I now get a lot of issues with it..where its telling me my clock time
is set incorrectly..yet its appears that the time is set correctly.

QuoteYour clock is ahead
A private connection to www.whateversite. com can't be established because your computer's date and time (Sunday, 27 February 2022 at 19:56:01) are incorrect. NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID

The other device I used to check if I could access Martins website was using safari browser  on a mobile device.
The LINK you sent me... I CAN OPEN  OK.. BUT I NOTE.. it appears somewhat different...
CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW have you managed to send me that to be able to open ok...

You mention something about Internet Archives... is that another website that stores peoples website material or
their links ? I can also see something at the top referring to "Wayback machine" or  is it some sort of website screen catcher...which if it is Its better than a screen shot which would normally only allow a capture of a small part of a website.

I just checked up about Wayback machine and can see some description of it..
I do seem to come across the name before but was not sure what it referred to or how to use it.

Quote
The Wayback Machine is a digital archive of the World Wide Web founded by the Internet Archive,  Created in 1996 and launched to the public in 2001, it allows the user to go "back in time" and see how websites looked in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine

I can also open that on Google Chrome..

If I recall I was not even able to open PRC on GC for the last few months...
but I just tried it again and it opened ok.But I also cannot open Martins website on GC.

What ever thank you for posting the link... :)

QuoteThat's strange. Do you use the same browser on both or are they different? That may be the source of your problem.

Meanwhile, here's a link for that article stored on the Internet Archive.
Volodymyr Zelensky – The Man Intent on Creating World War III

Looking at this thread that Micjer has created.. IT is listed in the General discussion area...

Which may have good or concerning issues.
Maybe good in the fact that is open to the general Public who can also read it.

But maybe concerning if one wants to post some content that maybe some read by read by certain Organisations that the poster may not want them to see..

For now the Covid thread I created was asked to become Private to PRC members only..
and I may have to post some content that Id like to post on this thread on the Covid thread..as I am concerned about some of the information being seen by certain people.

Also for what I want to post... it does not have a link direct to it. so I will have to copy and paste it.

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 08:06:26 PM
Many people who post online suggest Never trust the Media !

I said "media", not "mainstream media", as I never saw any reference to that site even on alternative media.

QuoteCAN I ask is there anyone that you may rate who you may see as someone who stands out to be 
maybe more trusted or what ever than the general media or anyone else for that matter on certain
types of topics that we tend to discuss on PRC ?

It depends on the topics, I don't have "good vs bad" list.

For example, the only news channel I watch, Euronews (in Portuguese) while I have my breakfast is good at reporting EU related news, not as good when it's about the Middle East, even less when it's about Russia or China. Also, the Portuguese version appears to have more of the "less mainstream" news than the English version, so I suppose each language has its editor, resulting in different news chosen by different editors.

What I do (and I do that to all things) is to try to understand how much can I trust something, so, on the above case, I trust Euronews some 90% when talking about EU related news, some 80% for Middle East news and some 60% for Russia and China news. That doesn't mean the news are not true, only that it looks like they are not getting the whole story, while on EU related news the news are more in dept and give me more of an idea of a "normal" news piece, without much bias.

QuoteI am using Firefox.. and normally overall it opens most websites that I visit ok.
I also have google chrome.. but For some reason in the last few Months.. something has happened with it ..
I can open certain websites with it ok... BUT I now get a lot of issues with it..where its telling me my clock time
is set incorrectly..yet its appears that the time is set correctly.

An incorrect clock may give problems with the certificates used by the HTTPS protocol, that's why Chrome, in its stupid way of trying to do things as they think should be done instead of how the user wants to do them, it blocks access to HTTPS sites.

QuoteThe other device I used to check if I could access Martins website was using safari browser  on a mobile device.
The LINK you sent me... I CAN OPEN  OK.. BUT I NOTE.. it appears somewhat different...
CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW have you managed to send me that to be able to open ok...

Yes, it's a copy of that page made by the Internet Archive, stored on what they call the Wayback Machine.

It's an archive of millions of sites as they were on specific dates. Some sites are copied more than once each day, some are copied once or twice each year, some are only copied when someone asks for a page on the Internet Archive and that page isn't archived, they ask if we want them to make a copy.

It's very useful to see changes in sites.

QuoteWhat ever thank you for posting the link... :)

You're welcome. :)

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 09:53:44 PM
But maybe concerning if one wants to post some content that maybe some read by read by certain Organisations that the poster may not want them to see..

If "they" wanted to know about member-only content they just had to register like anyone else, we wouldn't know they were from Organisation A or B.

As they say, "on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". :)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Internet_dog.jpg)

Sorry I assumed using the term media may have included all other types of media !  ???

QuoteI said "media", not "mainstream media", as I never saw any reference to that site even on alternative media.

Without having seen any Portugese TV.. I can not judge any views on it.
But some in the UK for eg believe that the BBC can untrusted on many topics that the report on.
I also see some things on other UK news Channels that I aslo question when I am made aware of
certain things from people whom I may follow.

BUT No doubt we can all question who ever may follow or may consider some of their views.
but in reality we may just using our own judgements as to what we may believe or consider could be more likely or valid.

QuoteIt depends on the topics, I don't have "good vs bad" list

YES its an Utter Pain... especially when I cannot any fault on my Time settings.. unless its out by a few seconds..
its seems OK to the Minute.

QuoteAn incorrect clock may give problems with the certificates used by the HTTPS protocol, that's why Chrome, in its stupid way of trying to do things as they think should be done instead of how the user wants to do them, it blocks access to HTTPS sites.

They MAY NOT decide to join if they could not see the Content posted in the 1st place.

Plus any that may decide to join, may not even know there are some Private threads asked to be set up..
unless they find out or get informed.

ALSO one never knows what such organisations could be capable of, when trying to spy on any website ?
or the suggested very clever hacker types.. who may be able to read private threads or PMs.

I heard of changing ones Sex, but Not Changing into another type of " Species , mammal / or  being" unless one maybe be an Alien.

As far as I know .. I am still a human !  :)

QuoteIf "they" wanted to know about member-only content they just had to register like anyone else, we wouldn't know they were from Organisation A or B.

As they say, "on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". :)

Some news articles are now suggesting that Russia / Putin is threatening Nuclear options.


Putin has raised the abhorrent spectre of a nuclear option - could it be a sign of desperation?

Quote
Russia's decision to raise the spectre of a nuclear option in the Ukraine war is a significant escalation, but also perhaps a sign of desperation.


The thinking goes that by possessing nuclear arms - and only a few countries do, including the UK, US and China, though not Ukraine - a state would never use them against another nuclear power or its allies because it would mean mutually assured destruction as they would fire back.

The balance of that calculation though is impacted if one country - in this case Russia - suddenly puts its nuclear-armed forces on high alert.

As well as aggressive signalling to the West, it is also a menace for Ukraine.
Unlike for example UK nuclear weapons policy, Russia's nuclear doctrine allows for smaller, tactical nuclear warheads to be threatened in a conventional conflict - including against a non-nuclear-armed country such as Ukraine - in the hope that the other side capitulates in fear.

    Russians blow up gas pipeline in KharkivSky News Logo 

It is referred to as "escalate to de-escalate".

If the enemy does not back down, then Russia could in theory launch a limited - in relative terms - nuclear strike to inflict such punishing damage as to force a victory.

An abhorrent thought - making for a deliberately escalatory threat by the Kremlin.
But President Vladimir Putin's invasion is not going to plan. Four days in, his forces, despite their superior firepower, have failed to capture and hold any major cities.
Instead, they appear to be incurring significant losses.

As the invading force, they will know they only have finite supplies, from weapons to rations, so they will need to meet their objectives or face the prospect of retreat.

At the same time, the Western response to the invasion has been far more powerful than even the optimists had imagined.

Russian banks are being cut off from the main international payment system, and much of Europe's airspace is closed to Russian flights. Russian planes and allies of Ukraine, including previously opposed Germany, have pledged to supply thousands of much-needed weapons.

In the biggest gamble of his extended time in power, Mr Putin chose to send his troops and missiles into Ukraine last Thursday in defiance of Western warnings to hold back.

It means he cannot afford to fail or else he knows his time in power will almost certainly be over, leaving a legacy of humiliation and defeat.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-has-raised-the-abhorrent-spectre-of-a-nuclear-option-could-it-be-a-sign-of-desperation/ar-AAUo1D2?ocid=uxbndlbing


Boris Johnson dismisses Putin's nuclear warning as a 'distraction'

The PM said the Russian leader is trying to divert attention from the fierce resistance his forces are facing in Ukraine

QuoteBoris Johnson has dismissed Vladimir Putin's announcement that he is putting Russia's strategic nuclear deterrent on high alert as a "distraction" from struggle his troops are facing in Ukraine

The Russian leader said on Sunday that he was putting Moscow's nuclear forces on a "special regime of combat duty" in response to "aggressive statements" coming from Western powers.

But in a pooled clip for broadcasters, the Prime Minister suggested his actions were more to do with the fact that his forces were meeting with "more resistance than the Kremlin had bargained for".

President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed the two sides could meet on the Ukraine-Belarus border having initially rejected an offer of talks in Belarus.

However Mr Johnson said he had seen nothing to suggest that Mr Putin was genuine in his offer.

"There's nothing I've seen so far in his behaviour that leads me to think that he could possibly be sincere," he said.

Earlier Russian television footage showed Mr Putin meeting with his defence minister and the chief of the general staff, and instructing them to put the nuclear deterrent on a "special regime of combat duty".

"Western countries aren't only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading Nato members made aggressive statements regarding our country," he said.
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But on a day when the expected assault on Kyiv again failed to materialise and the Ukrainians claimed to have driven Russian forces out of the country's second city Kharkiv, Mr Johnson said his words were "a distraction from the reality of what's going on".

"This is an innocent people who are facing a totally unprovoked act of aggression against them, and what's actually happening is that they are fighting back perhaps with more effect, with more resistance, than the Kremlin had bargained for," he said.

"You can see some of the logistical difficulties that the Russian forces are experiencing.

"The Russian defence ministry have themselves conceded that they're having casualties.

Dont Click on link unless you want to accept cookies..maybe best read from above.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-vladimir-putin-russian-ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-b984950.html

astr0144,
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/24/us-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine-what-will-russia-find-in-the-labs/

Why has America had biological weapons labs in Ukraine?

Putin is acting in the interests of Russia and it's people.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Nice find..looks quite a detailed article.. and no doubt raises further questions..

Mijcer referred to bio weapons in his 2nd post.
I have not managed to see Martins article.

I wonder what the west / USA / Europe/ Nato ,  will have to say about that if Putin indicates this is one of his main concerns.?


https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukraine-biological-weapons/

Then there are reports of a Bio weapons lab near the Russina border that was one of the first targets of the Russian military.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMVbpELXMAMFRdH?format=jpg&name=small

Quote from: kevin on February 28, 2022, 07:29:25 AM
astr0144,
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/24/us-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine-what-will-russia-find-in-the-labs/

Why has America had biological weapons labs in Ukraine?

Putin is acting in the interests of Russia and it's people.

Kevin

I agree Astro that one has to be careful now in what they post.

In this case i think we are only posting links to what is already on the web

I am certainly against war and not supporting either side.

I am just interested in finding out what is the truth and do not believe what MSM says about anything lately.

Quote from: kevin on February 28, 2022, 07:29:25 AM
astr0144,
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/24/us-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine-what-will-russia-find-in-the-labs/

Why has America had biological weapons labs in Ukraine?

Putin is acting in the interests of Russia and it's people.

Kevin

That is quite a link Kevin.

I am surprised Russia hasnt done something about lab in Georgia since they seem to be in control there

Its a bit of a tricky one really..

As there are somethings no doubt that could bring the wrong attention to certain Organisations..
especially if new Internet laws start coming in more and more in some of the articles that I had posted.

but also I would think some of the public who visit the site may also like to read them.
and it may or may not  bring in new members.

As this is your thread.. if you are also concerned... I think you would have to ask ArMaP or one of the other Mods if they could make it private.

Otherwise Maybe for Now Micjer...

I myself may still post some connected links to this thread on my other thread if I am concerned about posting them on this thread..

..which I think most present members can obtain both threads for now.

May have to discuss some further things later on PM maybe if we may not want to comment on this thread for now.  (Maybe wait to later to  see if ArMaP has any further views)

Quote from: micjer on February 28, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
I agree Astro that one has to be careful now in what they post.

In this case i think we are only posting links to what is already on the web

I am certainly against war and not supporting either side.

I am just interested in finding out what is the truth and do not believe what MSM says about anything lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWtw7edhZFs

Before ArMaP tells Me off for not adding content to the above, I did multiple times and it kept vanishing.
Kevin

Once again thanks for link Kevin

Wonderful summary of what seems to be whats going on

Need to download vid before it is taken down

This idiot of a foreign secretary is encouraging Britons to war against Russia.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-60544860

You should never kick a hornets nest, they will defend themselves to the death

Kevin

https://youtu.be/98cXig0hOVw

Beware of fake photos of war

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 11:05:41 PM
They MAY NOT decide to join if they could not see the Content posted in the 1st place.

That's true.

QuotePlus any that may decide to join, may not even know there are some Private threads asked to be set up..
unless they find out or get informed.

I have joined forums just to be able to see the members list, I suppose "they" do the same.

QuoteALSO one never knows what such organisations could be capable of, when trying to spy on any website ?
or the suggested very clever hacker types.. who may be able to read private threads or PMs.

Depending on the organisation, they may even have ways of convincing the hosting company to give them access to the database and the server, no need to hack anything.

QuoteI heard of changing ones Sex, but Not Changing into another type of " Species , mammal / or  being" unless one maybe be an Alien.

As far as I know .. I am still a human !  :)

If (when?) it's possible I'm sure someone will want to do it. As for you, stay human. ;)

Quote from: astr0144 on February 27, 2022, 11:41:08 PM
Dont Click on link unless you want to accept cookies..maybe best read from above.

You have the wrong idea about those sites asking to accept the cookies. When the sites behave as they should they give you the choice of which cookies to accept, all, just the minimum for the site to work or any configuration you may want to do yourself.
I always choose the minimum configuration and deny access from third party cookies, and I know it works because I never get targeted advertising (the whole idea behind the "cookies law" is to allow people to choose if they want their data to be visible to other sites/organisations or not).
The sites that do not ask you any thing are either only using the minimum cookies already (like the sites I manage at work) or they are ignoring that "cookies law" and get all the information they want from your device/browser.

Choosing which cookies you allow takes time but protects your privacy more.

I am not sure why one may join a forum to see a list if you only see a list usernames..
Unless you thought that you would recognise some from other forums where you are familiar with some of
the members who may use the same or similar usernames elsewhere.

I think most forums do at least show how many members they have...and maybe also list the members..
But some forums can hide the members list I believe..

I am Looking for a FREE type forum or group...( similar to what yahoo groups used to be  ) that I can use that does NOT list the amount of Members..and that allows the user to sign up and create their own forum for certain topics..and control what you do with the members list.but it seems the majority that I have looked at do not offer that option..

This lists some of the various types on offer such as https://www.proboards.com/  or some listed in these links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software.


Yes, I suspect that you are right that such organisations could do as you describe.

QuotePlus any that may decide to join, may not even know there are some Private threads asked to be set up..    unless they find out or get informed.

I have joined forums just to be able to see the members list, I suppose "they" do the same.

    ALSO one never knows what such organisations could be capable of, when trying to spy on any website ?
    or the suggested very clever hacker types.. who may be able to read private threads or PMs.

Depending on the organisation, they may even have ways of convincing the hosting company to give them access to the database and the server, no need to hack anything.

I have referred to this before... but I still Hate Cookies or having to deal with them on every website I visit. They waste my / our time.


It seems that maybe you work in Computers from what you say...so probably are much more familiar with such things.

You seems to be quite knowledgable about them or have taken more time to understand them.
To me what they ask does not really mean much to me. and I have no idea if what they may claim..
if I can trust them.

what I often manage to do now... is click on a website... say for an article.. and quickly press "Control A" to highlight.. the text and "Control C" to copy it... so I sort of grab the content quickly and paste on a word doc..
then pick out the parts I want... so I avoid accepting anything.

SOme websites take a while to load up, before any cookies messages show. , others react very quickly.. and sometimes I cannot copy the text or they use special software to protect  copying the content / text.  But I think usually I can copy maybe over 80% or more of website news type articles I click on... I tend also use  certain news websites that I know tend to load more slowly, so I can copy the content or txt. such as an MSN website for eg or certain UK news sites... maybe like the "SUN" or "Mail".

Quote from: ArMaP on February 28, 2022, 09:32:13 PM
You have the wrong idea about those sites asking to accept the cookies. When the sites behave as they should they give you the choice of which cookies to accept, all, just the minimum for the site to work or any configuration you may want to do yourself.
I always choose the minimum configuration and deny access from third party cookies, and I know it works because I never get targeted advertising (the whole idea behind the "cookies law" is to allow people to choose if they want their data to be visible to other sites/organisations or not).

The sites that do not ask you any thing are either only using the minimum cookies already (like the sites I manage at work) or they are ignoring that "cookies law" and get all the information they want from your device/browser.

Choosing which cookies you allow takes time but protects your privacy more.

To my surprise... For some reason I am now able to access Martin Armstrongs website again.

I would like to know what happened for the last few days as to why I was unable to access it.

Martin seems to have posting  quite a few interesting articles related to the War and what some of the
consequences may be to the World and its various economies.

World War III Beginning Stages Now

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/world-war-iii-beginning-stages-now/


The Foolishness of Sanctions
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/the-foolishness-of-sanctions/

Ukraine & Russia Peace Talks End

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukraine-russia-peace-talks-end/


Dividing the World Economy = Economic Decline

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/dividing-the-world-economy-economic-decline/

Quote from: astr0144 on March 01, 2022, 01:23:52 AM
I am not sure why one may join a forum to see a list if you only see a list usernames..
Unless you thought that you would recognise some from other forums where you are familiar with some of
the members who may use the same or similar usernames elsewhere.

It was something like that.
Read your messages for more details. ;)

QuoteI am Looking for a FREE type forum or group...( similar to what yahoo groups used to be  ) that I can use that does NOT list the amount of Members..and that allows the user to sign up and create their own forum for certain topics..and control what you do with the members list.but it seems the majority that I have looked at do not offer that option..

I don't like those kinds of forums because we do not have control of the forum itself, not having, for example, access to a log showing the visitor's IP addresses. When we have full control of a forum/site, we can get all that information. Also, most of them have advertising that we cannot control, with the implication that those adverts can get information about who visits the forum.

QuoteI have referred to this before... but I still Hate Cookies or having to deal with them on every website I visit. They waste my / our time.

They do waste some of our time, but by choosing which ones you allow you are in fact blocking the non-essential cookies.

Another possibility (and much easier) is to use a private/anonymous browser session that clears all cookies when we close it. The reason I usually do not use them is because I would also lose the browsing history, something I usually use.

QuoteIt seems that maybe you work in Computers from what you say...so probably are much more familiar with such things.

I have been working professionally with computers since 1995, and as a hobby 10 years before that. :)

QuoteTo me what they ask does not really mean much to me. and I have no idea if what they may claim..
if I can trust them.

See it this way:
They can either ask you to choose which cookies to accept or not. If they do not ask you a thing, then they are using all the cookies they want and you know nothing about it. If they ask you to choose which cookies to accept then it means they are at least trying to look like they follow the data protection rules, so they, theoretically, are accepting your choice and not using the cookies you reject.
Knowing they can be penalised with big fines if they are saying one thing and doing another, I suppose I can trust them. :)

Quotewhat I often manage to do now... is click on a website... say for an article.. and quickly press "Control A" to highlight.. the text and "Control C" to copy it... so I sort of grab the content quickly and paste on a word doc..
then pick out the parts I want... so I avoid accepting anything.

Most sites, if you do not specifically reject cookies, you are implying that you accept them, and cookies, being very small text files, are almost likely already on your computer when you select the text.

QuoteSOme websites take a while to load up, before any cookies messages show. , others react very quickly.. and sometimes I cannot copy the text or they use special software to protect  copying the content / text.  But I think usually I can copy maybe over 80% or more of website news type articles I click on... I tend also use  certain news websites that I know tend to load more slowly, so I can copy the content or txt. such as an MSN website for eg or certain UK news sites... maybe like the "SUN" or "Mail".

Yes, some sites use some Javascript code to prevent selecting the text. Sometimes, disabling Javascript on the site allows us to get the text, but some sites do not work without Javascript.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/terence-corcoran-putin-blows-up-netzero-and-the-green-reset/ar-AAUvOlS?ocid=msedgntp


Terence Corcoran: Putin blows up NetZero and the green reset

QuoteThere can be no greater demonstration of the massive failure — and the paralyzing contradictions and disconnect — revealed this week between two branches of the United Nations that allegedly serve to protect and assure peace and prosperity around the world. One branch is the United Nations Security Council , allegedly dedicated to international peace and security. The other UN operation is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) , which was created to "provide policymakers with regular scientific assessments on climate change, its implications and potential future risks, as well as to put forward adaptation and mitigation options."

QuoteThere can be no greater demonstration of the massive failure — and the paralyzing contradictions and disconnect — revealed this week between two branches of the United Nations that allegedly serve to protect and assure peace and prosperity around the world. One branch is the United Nations Security Council , allegedly dedicated to international peace and security. The other UN operation is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) , which was created to "provide policymakers with regular scientific assessments on climate change, its implications and potential future risks, as well as to put forward adaptation and mitigation options."

Russian President Vladimir Putin on March 2.© Provided by Financial Post Russian President Vladimir Putin on March 2.
As Vladimir Putin dropped bombs on the Ukraine and invaded its cities, the UN Security Council, along with the UN General Assembly, sank into paralysis and debate, unprepared and unwilling or simply incapable of rousing serious opposition to the Russian military operation. On Monday, the UNIPCC delivered its latest report, "Climate Change 2022," subtitled "Impacts, Adaptation & Vulnerability." A monumental 3,675-page document packed with incomprehensible science and meaningless geopolitical jargon, the report in effect outlines how the global fixation on climate policy and net zero carbon targets laid the groundwork for Putin's move to invade Ukraine.


The split UN personality was personified on Monday by UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, who said the IPCC report demonstrated that "As climate impacts worsen — and they will — scaling up investments will be essential for survival ... Delay means death." Then, on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Guterres said "civilian deaths" were totally unacceptable. "It must stop now."

But Guterres's warnings fail to acknowledge the climate/invasion links. Without the UN-led climate crusade it is highly unlikely Putin would have been in a position to launch the Ukraine invasion.

Nobody saw Putin coming, riding on the back of Germany and other European nations as they attempted to remake their energy systems to conform with IPCC decarbonization programs. Germany sought to bring in more Russian gas to offset its plans to eliminate coal power from its energy grid. In the wake of the invasion, Germany has withheld approval of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and has now begun to remake its energy strategy to include the continued use of coal.

Terence Corcoran: The imploding new world economic order
Terence Corcoran: In Canada, follow the money + the ideas
Terence Corcoran: Let's 'follow the money' in Ottawa
Terence Corcoran: Any conflicts? Nah. We're all in this together
Nations around the world, including Canada and the United States, are now under economic and strategic pressure to rethink the IPCC climate crusade toward NetZero 2050. There comes a point when the banal pursuit of the overwhelmingly complicated science of climate change becomes the source of serious geopolitical and military risk. Fossil-fuel energy, thanks to Putin, is now about to make a major comeback as a relatively inexpensive and readily available secure source of energy.

Neither Prime Minister Trudeau nor President Joe Biden can, in the wake of Putin's disruption of the world energy and political system, continue to regurgitate the Build Back Better and Green New Deal slogans that have dominated their pronouncements over the last two years. The era of the pipeline blockers is over.

Also coming to an end, perhaps, is the World Economic Forum's Great Reset movement led by Klaus Schwab. Accompanied by Vladimir Putin and other member of the WEF's Davos organization, Schwab envisioned using the climate crisis and the COVID-19 pandemic as spring boards for a new global political system that would change the way the world is governed. It took Schwab several days after Putin moved on Ukraine to announce that the WEF "deeply condemns" the aggression.

It may be too late. The damage has been done; the green reset and the great march to NetZero 2050 are now in disarray, blown to pieces by Vladimir Putin[/b].

Quote from: astr0144 on February 26, 2022, 05:40:21 PM
Then there mention of whether or not Putin wanted to turn some things back to the older ways..but not in a
negative way.. what ever that should mean... whether its to do with Communism, Markism..ways..
that either he wants to prevent occurring in Ukraine or to changes things back as they were in some ways
before the Countries in Russia split..

I don't think it really has anything to do with Marxism as such.  To the extent that Putin is nostalgic for the USSR, I think that is primarily in terms of the level of unquestioned centralised control which the Soviet government had, and also its' greater wealth and resources.  In my mind, Putin is an old hitman with an ego problem; and although fear of his own mortality, and his narcissism are both blinding him now, assassins are not generally known for ideological or sentimental motivations.

I think Putin wants the Ukraine for three main reasons.

a}  Its' agricultural output.

b}  The port in Odessa.

c}  He doesn't want either the Americans or the EU to have a potential staging area directly on his border; and given the traditional nature of Russian-American relations, I honestly don't blame him very much for that.

The first two objectives are mostly gravy; he could survive without them, so they are optional.  The third, however, is the important one.  That's the one which I could see motivating him to at least consider playing the nuclear card if he doesn't get it.

The one thing I don't understand is why the Russian conduct of the invasion has had such a surreal level of incompetence.  They should have been targetting Ukrainian logistics, first and foremost.  Power stations, freight truck depots, water treatment plants, food manufacturing, all that sort of thing.  If he had done that quickly and cleanly enough, then he essentially could have put the entire country under lockdown, and if he had also done it with minimal casualties, he could have gone to the UNSC and told them point blank that when he got a legally binding, in writing prohibition against the Ukraine joining either the EU or NATO, in perpetuity, he would pull out of the Ukraine; but that he was going to sit on it until he got what he wanted.

His targetting of civilians is stupid.  Yes, it's evil, but even more than that, it's stupid.  You can be a complete psychopath with regards to human life...you can be Tywin Lannister squared...and yet if you are not a complete idiot, you will still be able to see why keeping the civilian body count as low as is humanly possible is basic common sense.  Putin would always have to deal with the civilian population, regardless of how many nukes he might have, and he would always have to deal with the UN, even if he won.  It is therefore not in his best interests to harm anyone, because unless his plan is to literally turn the entire planet into a graveyard, those are both groups who he will unavoidably need to build long term relationships with.

Assuming this were possible, the intelligent thing to do, would have been to keep most (if not all) of his troops at home, and instead use some of those fancy non-nuclear long range missiles of his to very carefully and precisely demolish the Ukraine's logistical infrastructure.  Power stations, sewage plants, freight depots, food manufacturing, communications; all that sort of thing.

Then, assuming he had kept the body count close to non-existent, he could go to the UNSC and announce point blank that until he got a legally binding, in-writing declaration that the Ukraine would never be permitted to join either the EU or NATO, said Ukrainian infrastructure would remain offline.

Quote from: micjer on March 02, 2022, 08:01:15 PM
Without the UN-led climate crusade it is highly unlikely Putin would have been in a position to launch the Ukraine invasion.

That is just too rich.

I have customarily regarded the UN as almost completely useless; but I realise now that that is unfair.  As this incident demonstrates, one thing the institution is really fantastic at doing, is shooting itself in the foot.

https://youtu.be/Ssw9xCcMp1M?t=13

There have been some reports of people from Asia and Africa not being allowed to leave Ukraine.

Two Portuguese students (from African ancestry) were sent to the end of the line when they got to the gate at the border with Poland, and even when they showed that they were from an EU country the Ukrainian guards didn't care. The case was communicated to the Portuguese Foreign Affairs minister and, after 3 days waiting, they were allowed to leave to Poland.

An Indian woman saw several people making a barrier to prevent Africans and Asians from boarding a train, and an African man was told that they were not allowed to leave and they would fight for Ukraine.

Nice people...

Quote from: ArMaP on March 03, 2022, 01:52:40 AM
An Indian woman saw several people making a barrier to prevent Africans and Asians from boarding a train, and an African man was told that they were not allowed to leave and they would fight for Ukraine.

Nice people...

There have been times while watching videos about the invasion on YouTube, when I have gained the distinct impression that there was a lot of dishonesty and illusion associated with the whole thing, and a lot that I did not and could not know for certain, one way or the other.

You make some good points Petrus4.

I made some of my comments based on some Articles that I read .

But Since I wrote that post.. in the earlier stages of the Russian Invasion..
I have now seen quite a few other suggestions of various reasons as to why Putin has made his decision to
take war action.

If he is doing it for further chess moves against the west as  forms of further protection... and things have been
building up for some years.. then it maybe because of everything that has occurred over the last 5 to 6 years..
with the last US Election results, EU issues with Brexit and Covid.. that its being sggested that the West is now much weaker , that he has decided to act now.

In terms of the Ukraines... There seems issues with some of the Volodymyr Zelensky leadership in relation to certain people within the country. and whether an earlier leader maybe should have remained in power.
Are the people overall content with their leader .. or was he put in power thru certain means.
and Would it make  have made any difference who was in power  to what Putins aims seem to be.

Prior to the present leader.. Putin Still believe Viktor Yanukovych should be the Ukraine leader
Then there was Petro Poroshenko a Business man and leader of the opposition Viktor V. Medvedchuk who President Volodymyr Zelensky seemed to somehow manipulated his way into power by setting them up or imprisioning the opposition. Yet he appears to have still obtained a lot of votes.

If the Russians end up fighting and bombing that is killing Ukraines.... that is terrible for them.
and NO ways do they deserve to be treated like that. Its terrible for the average people..or those having to evacuate.

But No doubt some of the Ukraines are willing to take up arms to protect themseleves..and may initially be firing at the Russian army as they enter further into the Country.

The Ukraines only natural response will be to consider trying to resist.. BUT they are only a very small Country and force compared to Russia,  unless they get back up to support them,.. Its not likely they be able to hold the
Russians off if they continue to send in more troups.

Back in WW2 if I recall some some Countries did surrender with little resistance and within a short time.

Its hard to say what the outcome of all this maybe.. or will any potential other opposition hold back or take action against Russia. or will be a short or long  term thing .

Martin Armstrong seemed to suggest there are a lot of Russians living in Ukraine..and suggested that the people should have a further Vote...But is that likely to really have any effect on Putins aims even they did.
or no matter who was to get in power.

Then there are Suggestions that the USA / West may have Bioweapon facilities in the Ukraine.. which no doubt also
would be a concern to Putin.

QuoteConsequently, Zelensky is pushing not just Ukraine into war for a matter of pride, but he is trying to deliberately bring in the United States and Europe into World War III all because of what appears to be his personal hatred of Russians for the days of Stalin. Once more, we have this Eastern European crisis that sparked World War I, in a position to create World War III. The simple solution is let the people decide with an election whereas those living in Donetsk and Luhansk are entitled to decide their own fate.

QuoteI don't think it really has anything to do with Marxism as such.  To the extent that Putin is nostalgic for the USSR, I think that is primarily in terms of the level of unquestioned centralised control which the Soviet government had, and also its' greater wealth and resources.  In my mind, Putin is an old hitman with an ego problem; and although fear of his own mortality, and his narcissism are both blinding him now, assassins are not generally known for ideological or sentimental motivations.

I think Putin wants the Ukraine for three main reasons.

a}  Its' agricultural output.

b}  The port in Odessa.

c}  He doesn't want either the Americans or the EU to have a potential staging area directly on his border; and given the traditional nature of Russian-American relations, I honestly don't blame him very much for that.

Quote from: astr0144 on March 03, 2022, 07:44:08 AM
If he is doing it for further chess moves against the west as  forms of further protection... and things have been
building up for some years.. then it maybe because of everything that has occurred over the last 5 to 6 years..
with the last US Election results, EU issues with Brexit and Covid.. that its being sggested that the West is now much weaker , that he has decided to act now.

He is also 69 years old.  He has been consolidating and preparing for this, at least to a degree, for the last two decades, but I think he definitely has the attitude that it is now or never.

QuoteIn terms of the Ukraines... There seems issues with some of the Volodymyr Zelensky leadership in relation to certain people within the country. and whether an earlier leader maybe should have remained in power.

I have found the level of romanticism surrounding Zelensky disturbing, to be honest.  I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there is something about him that feels stage managed, and not quite real.  I think there is something we don't know, there.  The John Connor image is extremely seductive, but it's also just a little too on the nose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgCNKhtZYks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7bSYG0qL3Y

QuoteThe Ukraines only natural response will be to consider trying to resist.. BUT they are only a very small Country and force compared to Russia,  unless they get back up to support them,.. Its not likely they be able to hold the
Russians off if they continue to send in more troups.

As I have said before, the other thing about this invasion which feels artificial and out of place, is the level of stupidity that has been displayed by the Russian military.

With the background that I at least thought he had, Putin should know much better than this.  He openly put his cards on the table while the Ukraine was still almost completely untouched, and the amount of the Ukrainian regular military which seems to have still been intact at the time of the invasion, implies to me that he did not engage in black operations to try and remove their command structure, before he sent his own forces in.

It also needs to be emphasised here that this is not merely incompetent in twenty first century terms, or me being an armchair general.  I have read enough Sun Tzu to know that he would have slapped Putin in the face for it.  You always send the Mandalorians in first.  This is the way. ;) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HgRXwMozEY

It's like trying to grow a hydroponic weed crop when you haven't put in grow lights or the proper nutrient solution first. Of course it will fail.

a}  Send in the Mandalorians to get rid of all the specific VIPs, in a manner which is sufficiently fast, quiet, and precise that hardly anyone has time to even know that it is happening, let alone resist.

b}  Use planes, missiles, rail guns, and other fancy long range stuff to blow everything up which either produces or supports the country's economy. preferably without risking any of your own people's lives.  Power stations, truck depots, airfields, water treatment plants, food production, Internet/phone exchanges.

c}  Use tanks or short range stuff to make sure that said infrastructure does not go back up again, once you have initially knocked it down.  In most cities I know of, industrial infrastructure is generally in a different area to either the CBD or the residential areas, which means that you should have no excuse for butchering civilians.

d}  Go before the United Nations Security Council, and tell the delegates to form a nice, orderly queue in front of your throne, in order to provide you with fellatio.

e}  Sit quietly, and wait for a genuine member of the military (bonus points if they're somehow a senior officer) to respond to you in whichever forum you have posted this, and inform you that you are a pathetic, contemptible, infantile poseur, that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you are talking about, and that you should immediately STFU and never post or speak anywhere ever again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdRQCQQqzik

Putin is for Russia.
WHY NOT?

Kevin

Interesting post Petrus4.

Again you make some good analysis and good points.

I am still really sure however, whether Putins plans are just to be aimed at Ukraine or does he have further plans.
and if its just Ukraine based...

Ukraine broke away from Russia in 1991 and Putin became President of Russia in May 2000.
So whether he was consider this in early stages or from some later time.. I dont really know.

But yes it could be some sort of power aim he wants to achieve before he is too old..
BUT I would Guess its more than likely something that maybe a weakness within Ukraine thats a threat to him

Quote
He is also 69 years old.  He has been consolidating and preparing for this, at least to a degree, for the last two decades, but I think he definitely has the attitude that it is now or never.

I myself and I assume most people did not even know much about Ukraine or who their Leader Zelensky was
From some of the things I have read... he seems to have had some sort of appealing personality...from his background.. But I doubt he is really very astute in the areanas of Polictics and War compared to some leaders.

Quote
I have found the level of romanticism surrounding Zelensky disturbing, to be honest.  I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there is something about him that feels stage managed, and not quite real.  I think there is something we don't know, there.  The John Connor image is extremely seductive, but it's also just a little too on the nose.

I have not watched the news or read up on certain other things in great detail to try to observe what or how the Russian Military is behaving...and their actions and agendas seem to be.
BUT you make some very good points as to other things and actions that Putin could have considered.

Quote
With the background that I at least thought he had, Putin should know much better than this.  He openly put his cards on the table while the Ukraine was still almost completely untouched, and the amount of the Ukrainian regular military which seems to have still been intact at the time of the invasion, implies to me that he did not engage in black operations to try and remove their command structure, before he sent his own forces in.

You may know more than most if you have such knowledge to be an airchair general... and MAY have been able to
be Putins ,Zelensky or who evers advisor.

I recall the title of the Sun Tzu book..was it "The Art of War" ! which I have never got around to reading.
Whether those gudielines apply to all these leaders or not... you think they would all be aware if such a book
gives the guidelines of what to consider in war..

But if you are a Sardine against a Shark.. unless you have other species to aid you.. knowing the rules of war..
For such cases.. one has to consider the odds which psycologically alone may determine the decisions that get made.

But the tactics you describe could certainly be used VERY effectively for Putin I would have thought.
and it could help avoid direct conflict to Ukraines people at least in the initial earlier stages to prevent direct physical confrontations..

I had to look up what Mandalorians referred to...
I seen the Movie a long time ago, but did not observe such things as I tended to mainly watch it for the action..
rather than noting some of the descriptions of the details of the names of Aliens or soldiers / robots species  in the film...(Other than R2D2 and CP3PO)

I am finding life somewhat of a drain over last 2 to 3 years...

In the UK .. all we heared about was Brixit for months... THEN comes along Covid for 2 years... and NOW we have
The Russia / Ukraine issues..and WW3.

Has peoples Life's always been like this, where you can feel all this stuff just takes over our life's.
or is it now more on us due to the Internet ?  I assume maybe it appears that way...but prior to the Net it
would have been TV , or newspapers..  but now we have so much information... it just overloads us.


May the Force Go with Ukraine and all of us !

Quote
It also needs to be emphasised here that this is not merely incompetent in twenty first century terms, or me being an armchair general.  I have read enough Sun Tzu to know that he would have slapped Putin in the face for it.  You always send the Mandalorians in first.  This is the way. ;) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1W5o3Xz5OI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHXuHpaEwgE&t=269s

Quote from: petrus4 on March 03, 2022, 10:56:06 AM
I have found the level of romanticism surrounding Zelensky disturbing, to be honest.  I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there is something about him that feels stage managed, and not quite real.  I think there is something we don't know, there.  The John Connor image is extremely seductive, but it's also just a little too on the nose.

Personally, I don't like Zelensky, and I have a natural distrust of professional liars, and that includes actors and politicians. He is both.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/satellite-images-suggest-worlds-largest-plane-may-still-be-intact-20220302

Not sure if world's largest plane is still ok or destroyed

Quote from: ArMaP on March 04, 2022, 01:05:43 AM
Personally, I don't like Zelensky, and I have a natural distrust of professional liars, and that includes actors and politicians. He is both.

Armap, I woke up earlier to the sight (on YouTube) of Zelensky yelling frantically into a camera about how the evil Russians were currently shelling a six node nuclear reactor, and how the military of the entire rest of the planet supposedly, urgently needed to get involved.  Then I saw another video from someone else who I have trusted for years, telling people that there was no reason to panic from said incident; and in the comments of that video, someone said that it was merely the administrative building of the reactor that was shelled, and not the reactor itself, but that the resulting fire had now been put out.

So this makes me think that as you say, Zelensky is a liar, and for some reason he desperately wants other countries to get involved in the Ukraine.  I do NOT want that, because I think Putin is mentally unstable, and I do not want to see him given ANY pretext for even thinking about using nuclear weapons; which, if any other countries get directly involved, he will.

Quote from: Ellirium113 on March 04, 2022, 12:58:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1W5o3Xz5OI

I am very surprised that YouTube still allows videos like these.  Thank you though, Ellirium; that was enlightening.

At a Guess..

I wonder if the attack on the Nuke plant is an attempt to put severe fear into Zelensky to try a much quicker
submission... as that is probably any leaders / countries / peoples  worse fear.
It does not mean Putin actually plans to hit the actual reactor.

But it may also risk further concerns from other Countries who may consider taking similar action against Russia,
if they started to believe that Putin has taken a step too far...

The other thing I was thinking about ... in ref to some past Russian invasions... and whether or not other smaller
countries can try to stand up against Russia..

Was when they tried to invade Afganistan..that the Afgans managed to stand up against Russia and it was over at least 10 years between 1979 and 1989 .But Afganistan is as far as I know a different type of terrain that was maybe harder for the Russians to deal with..But even then as far as I recall the Russians tried to take over control or remain even after the main war.One may wonder if such Countries as Afganistan may consider aiding the likes of the Ukraine.

That sort of things may take some time to think about in more detail..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War

QuoteI woke up earlier to the sight (on YouTube) of Zelensky yelling frantically into a camera about how the evil Russians were currently shelling a six node nuclear reactor, and how the military of the entire rest of the planet supposedly, urgently needed to get involved.  Then I saw another video from someone else who I have trusted for years, telling people that there was no reason to panic from said incident; and in the comments of that video, someone said that it was merely the administrative building of the reactor that was shelled, and not the reactor itself, but that the resulting fire had now been put out.

So this makes me think that as you say, Zelensky is a liar, and for some reason he desperately wants other countries to get involved in the Ukraine.  I do NOT want that, because I think Putin is mentally unstable, and I do not want to see him given ANY pretext for even thinking about using nuclear weapons; which, if any other countries get directly involved, he will.

I dont know why but when I look on Bings main news articles I cannot see any obvious articles towards the Nuke Plant attack as I look at the moment..

BUT I can ref to these headlines..

QuoteSen Lindsey Graham calls on Russians to assassinate President Putin

QuoteBoris Johnson Does Not Want Russians To Assassinate Vladimir Putin, Says No.10
Boris Johnson does not want someone in Russia to assassinate Vladimir Putin, Downing Street has

I have managed to earch elsewhere to find this article that refers to the Nuke plant attack.

What happened at Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant? What Russia's attack on Ukraine facility means for Europe

Quote
Russia-Ukraine war latest news: Putin's forces seize nuclear power plant after...
'The threat of nuclear annihilation hasn't gone away' – the timely return...
In the early hours of Friday, a fire broke out at Europe's largest nuclear plant, in south-east Ukraine, after it was struck by Russian shelling.

The Russian troops then seized the power station, Zaporizhzhia, sparking global alarm.

The plant in Enerhodar, built between 1984 and 1995, is the ninth-largest in the world with six reactors generating 950MW each. It produces enough energy to supply four million households, or one fifth of Ukraine's 44 million-strong population.

It accounts for half of the energy generated at Ukraine's nuclear power facilities.

What is a nuclear power plant?
Nuclear power plants use nuclear fission to heat water to produce steam, which is used to spin large turbines that create electricity. In nuclear fission, atoms are split apart to form smaller atoms, releasing energy.

This takes place inside the reactor of a nuclear power plant, which contains fuel such as uranium. Once the heat has been converted to steam to create electricity, it is then cooled back into water in a separate cooling tower.

What happened on Friday morning?
At about 1am on Friday, the UN's nuclear monitor, the International Atomic Energy Agency, tweeted that it had put its Incident and Emergency Centre "in full 24/7" due to a "serious" situation at the power plant.

It emerged that Russian troops, who eight days ago forced their way into Ukraine in a land, air and sea invasion, had seized the power plant and set one building ablaze.

Andriy Tuz, the spokesperson for the nuclear plant, said Russian shells were falling directly on the facilities. The reactor is under renovation and not operating, but there is nuclear fuel inside, he said on Ukrainian television.

Firefighters were unable to get near the flames because they were shot at, he said. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted a plea to the Russians to stop the assault and allow fire teams inside.

"We demand that they stop the heavy weapons fire," Mr Tuz said. "There is a real threat of nuclear danger in the biggest atomic energy station in Europe."

Rafael Grossi, the IAEA's Director General Rafael Grossi, spoke to Ukrainian authorities and called for the fighting to stop as he warned of "severe danger" resulting from one of the reactors being hit.

The assault renewed fears that the invasion could damage one of Ukraine's 15 nuclear reactors and set off another emergency like the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the world's worst nuclear disaster, which happened about 110 kilometres (65 miles) north of the capital.

The incident prompted a call at 1.30am between Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which the PM said he would seek an emergency UN Security Council meeting to discuss the attack on the plant.

Mr Johnson said the UK would do "everything it could to ensure the situation did not deteriorate further" after Mr Zelensky released a video warning Europe the whole continent would suffer from a reactor being hit.

"Europeans, please wake up. Tell your politicians – Russian troops are shooting at a nuclear power plant in Ukraine," Mr Zelensky said.

Russia had already captured the defunct Chernobyl plant north of Kyiv, which spewed radioactive waste over much of Europe when it melted down in 1986. The Zaporizhzhia plant is a different and safer type, analysts said.

The fire, identified at a training building, has now been extinguished.

What is the threat of nuclear reaction?
The International Atomic Energy Agency said the fire had not affected essential equipment and that Ukraine's nuclear regulator reported no change in radiation levels. The American Nuclear Society concurred, saying that the latest radiation levels remained within natural background levels.

Several scientists sought to quell fears raised by Mr Kuleba after he claimed in a tweet that an explosion "would be 10 times larger than Chernobyl".

Jon Wolfsthal, who served during the Obama administration as the senior director for arms control and nonproliferation at the National Security Council, said the plant's reactors have thick concrete containment domes that should protect them from tank and artillery fire.

A thread on Twitter explains the difference between the VVER reactors at Chernobyl and the RBMK ones at Zaporizhzhia, which are considered much safer.

But Mr Wolfsthal expressed concern about a potential loss of power at the plant, which could imperil its ability to keep the nuclear fuel cool.

Dr Graham Allison, a nuclear security expert at Harvard University, told the BBC the "worst case" would be the surrounding area at the plant being contaminated by radioactivity caused by a meltdown.

According to James Acton, a nuclear expert, the fire could cause a Fukushima-style meltdown caused by the plant being unable to cool down due to the loss of power.

Why is Russia doing this ?
Mr Acton said he would speculate Russia did not intend to strike the plant, and that it was just "collateral damage".

According to Dr Allison, it was more likely that Russian forces were trying to "close down the supply of electricity to the surrounding area", rather than attack the plant.

Speaking to the BBC when Russia got hold of Chernobyl last week, Dr Taras Kuzio, a research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society, noted that the explosion of Chernobyl is often linked to the fall of the Soviet Union just five years later, which Mr Putin deeply regrets.

The seizing of the plant by Russian troops is therefore a symbolic win for Mr Putin, she said.

"Putin has the mindset of somebody who cannot get over the fact the USSR disintegrated 30 years ago, and it all began to disintegrate after Chernobyl," said Dr Kuzio, who is of Ukrainian descent.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/what-happened-at-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-what-russia-e2-80-99s-attack-on-ukraine-facility-means-for-europe/ar-AAUBqse?ocid=uxbndlbing

It is very important at this time as the world watches the movie to watch for the Trojan horse agendas.

There are huge issues being talked about that people should be aware of, like digital banking passes, and health dictatorship, for examples.

Quote from: micjer on March 04, 2022, 05:45:35 PM
It is very important at this time as the world watches the movie to watch for the Trojan horse agendas.

There are huge issues being talked about that people should be aware of, like digital banking passes, and health dictatorship, for examples.

This man who is best in small doses is saying exactly that.
The hypocrites who are calling for demonstrations and so called freedom fighters to go and fight against Russia are busy voting in bills to stop the right to protest here in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQ9WtP-97w

Kevin

Several of the people that we tend to follow have made references to various things that maybe going on behind the scenes... and may depend if one believes them    such as things to do with Agenda 21... But I am sure some are likely to be right.

Along with Banking Passports etc.. this is another that I was dreading.

But has been suggested that they have plans to have all our various information on some form of connected system... be it financial, banking  , health, wellfare benefits, tax earnings etc...so we wont be able to hide anything from them...

Some would say its a 1984 nightmare scenerio..

I posted this earlier on another thread. if you have not seen it..


The W.H.O Is Developing an International Vaccine Passport.

Reading this has even spoilt my day even further...
Next to being Chipped, it the next thing that concerned me..which I have been expecting was likely to happen.

I only hope that enough people can revolt to resist this !
Maybe Vaxed People favor it, but there are concerns for them according to the article.

Quote
    The World Health Organization (WHO) has signed a deal with T-Systems (a Deutsche Telecom subsidiary) for the production of a global QR system to produce an international vaccine passport. The company noted has already implemented vaccine QR codes for over 60 countries, despite the intense resistance by the people. T-Systems is also responsible for implementing the European Federation Gateway Service (EFGS), and Germany's COVID warning app, which has been downloaded over 43 million times.

    The WHO said further information is coming "soon," but we already know the implications. This will provide governments with a tool to track and control our movements both domestically and internationally. Even if you have received the COVID shots and booster, you are only one vaccine away from becoming part of "the unvaccinated" population; you will be banished into the shadows of society. France recently repealed four million vaccine passports, halting lives instantaneously. Countries such as Israel and Australia are calling for four or five vaccines. If the people do not push back, the government will have us on a tight leash with full control over our lives.

    THE WHO is using this Ukrainian Crisis to now justify "papers please" to use these passports to also "weed out" Russian spies. There might be a lot of people who would actually cheer if Putin invaded Geneva as a threat to the world economy. But why should he do that? This is the decline and fall of the West and all he has to do is cheer on Schwab and the WHO to achieve the end of Western Sovereignty.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/vaccine/the-who-is-developing-an-international-vaccine-passport/

Quote from: micjer on March 04, 2022, 05:45:35 PM
It is very important at this time as the world watches the movie to watch for the Trojan horse agendas.

There are huge issues being talked about that people should be aware of, like digital banking passes, and health dictatorship, for examples.

Quote from: micjer on March 04, 2022, 02:28:11 AM
https://www.ladbible.com/news/satellite-images-suggest-worlds-largest-plane-may-still-be-intact-20220302

Not sure if world's largest plane is still ok or destroyed

update on this....

Doesn't look good.

https://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-charred-wreck-worlds-123528554.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACErjfbAPVxjZB71dqjjaXMJMDEqFm_i3W-ZAIQRe6DNDlH5fWjmNudgYDF-0Q5Y9eTthLb7cbFzfsb5aEVxPvJqrrcBNjmztwYsDEGSf74FEe8cA3G03mPZpAs8eNRHkgrZa4EsgQPtAVW2g4iElGFNuh3u5B9_ePKWvtlcmUvx

Quote from: petrus4 on March 04, 2022, 07:03:50 AM
Armap, I woke up earlier to the sight (on YouTube) of Zelensky yelling frantically into a camera about how the evil Russians were currently shelling a six node nuclear reactor, and how the military of the entire rest of the planet supposedly, urgently needed to get involved.

He likes to ask for "immediate" reactions, like when he asked for "immediate" entry into the EU, something that takes several years.

https://youtu.be/KfaAyiP8Wuc

Zelensky didn't like that NATO doesn't want to impose a no fly zone, as that would mean a direct confrontation between NATO and Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTrseK8CvXc

https://youtu.be/5ESiqANzNpk

Quote from: micjer on March 06, 2022, 11:21:16 PM
https://youtu.be/5ESiqANzNpk

Didn't you know that we are not supposed to believe RT or any Russian source, they only broadcast propaganda.  ::)

https://youtu.be/LNBc8X_7i34

Price of oil is going to sky rocket

Part of the plan?

Oil, Gold and even now Silver has made large gains in Price the last few weeks...

Precious metals are often something expected to be in demand in war situations.

Theres threat of rising food prices if war continues.

while the USA Stock market indexes (Dow Jones , S&P 500) has been declining since the top formed as a new all time ever high on around  Jan 5th 2022.

Based upon some Stock Time Cycles that I have been observing, so far the markets seem to be reasonably  copying them in a similar way.  IF this continues  or the last main created Pivot turns hold..it suggests...that :

I think there is a possibility of short term bottom in the stock market followed a 2 to 3 weeks sharp reversal rally occuring maybe by around March 14th/16th upto the end of March early April.
IF we see that occurr...

Then there could be a further severe decline for a couple of weeks into Mid April. and we may see another low in May.

IF it continues to follow in a similar way... the Markets may have a long term reversal for a large rally.

HOWEVER :I think or  I suspect if the markets INVERSE...such as we find a another High pivot between Mar 14th/17th.. the decline for the Stock market may decline to the end of the month / early April. then rerally back to either Mid April or May.. and then they may decline for some months, or maybe even  years.

Thats two possible scenerios that I think could happen.

For those who have certain knowledge how to trade the markets, there could be a great opportunity to greatly profit from it in the next few weeks. IF the Markets move in a similar way to what the past cycles did that I am observing.

Back in Feb 2020.... we saw a HUGE decline for one month into March and then the Markets had a HUGE rally
and did so from March 2020 to Jan 5th 2022.

They have been the best moves ever in the History of the Stock market.

Again if one knows what to do... ones fortunes can change very quickly.

Quote from: astr0144 on March 08, 2022, 07:40:32 PM
Theres threat of rising food prices if war continues.

Considering Russia is the world biggest exporter of wheat and Ukraine is the fifth, a relatively long war may affect food production globally.

This may offer some further info in ref to the Ukraine / Russia situation.

Martin make some comments to suggest Russia could have used air strikes if they intended a quicker full  take over if that was Russia's aim,  where he believes that they could have took over the Country or won the war within a short period if that had been Putins main intention, which so far he claims that they have not used  air strikes.

But I had thought that I had seen something on TV news that had suggested that Ukraine had been using air strikes against Russian forces.

So , it still seems a bit uncertain as to what maybe really going on !

Comment from Inside Ukraine & Lack of Peacemakers.

QuoteDear Martin,
In addition to the 4 demands listed in your blog "Putin offers peace..." there is a fifth; Ukraine must repeal its "Ukrainian only" law and accept Russian as an equal official language. About 50% of all of Ukraine's population has Russian as their mother tongue. Most of them are ethnic Russians or of mixed Russian and Ukrainian origin. The Ukrainians would probably continue to create an apartheid state if any agreement with them doesn't give the Russian-speaking citizens iron-clad guarantees ensuring equal social, cultural, linguistic, and political rights with the ethnic Ukrainians.
Yours Sincerely,
BH, MSc

REPLY: Zelensky is by no means a hero. People really need to understand the history of Ukraine which is really a modern nation-state. Nevertheless, Zelensky's language law is indeed intended to create discord rather than unite the people much like the BLM movement to separate and divide which the West also carried out between the vaxed & unvaxed.

Despite all the hatred hurled at Putin, he is NOT trying to flatten Ukraine nor is he trying to conquer the nation-state. His airforce could flatten Ukraine and probably win the war in a matter of days. Even the Economist has noticed the absence of the Russian airforce. When Putin stated he wanted to defeat the Nazis of Ukraine, most people never heard of them but they were part of the German Nazis but were never prosecuted only because the West used them against Russia.

The Ukrainian Nazis followed the philosophy of ethnic cleansing of Stepan Bandera  (1909-1959) a leader in the OUN nationalist Ukrainian movement where they exterminated Poles, Jews, and Russians. The Nazi Ukrainians executed up to 200,000 Jews but were exempted from prosecution.

Documents have surfaced that were previously classified that showed that the CIA protected the Ukrainian Nazis. By the British MI6 was the main agency using the Nazis despite the warning of the CIA.


There is another side to Ukraine that is not being told. From many real sources, all I hear is the image of Zelensky as a puppet is amazingly noticed by people with experience. Zelensky has put the people of Ukraine at risk for what he has been moving to tear up the Minsk Agreement. The press is raising him as a hero fighting the evil bear of Russia without any investigation whatsoever. Most of what is coming out from Zelensky's side is propaganda. Putin is not flattening Ukraine as the West did in Iraq. His actions clearly do not display an intent to conquer and occupy Ukraine. The power grid is still up as is the water supply. Putin has not moved to take those down.

Russia is in firm control of the East which was the stated objective from the outset. Russia will most likely take the city of Odessa now because of the sanctions. Odessa supplies the world with Neo Gas needed for computer chip production. Because this city in southern Ukraine is considered the capital of a crucial element for manufacturing these computer chips, purified neon gas is critical and Russia can disrupt the technology of the West by taking Odessa.

There is much more to the story than the press is reporting for they only are putting out propaganda. I have Ukrainian friends from both sides – Kyiv and Donestk. Throughout my life, since I have lived in Europe as well as Asia, I have had both Russian and Ukrainian friends and we still keep in contact by email and text. I have understood the deep feelings on both sides. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, in July 1990 a declaration of sovereignty was passed by the Ukrainian parliament, and in August 1991 Ukraine was declared to be at last an independent nation-state. Leonid Kravchuk became the first president of Ukraine in December 1991. So when Putin says that the USSR created Ukraine, he does know his history.

Following the Minsk Agreement in 2015, Merkel thanked the other participants of the negotiations – French President Francois Hollande and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. She said Poroshenko "did his utmost to stop the bloodshed," in his country.

"Finally, even President Putin exerted pressure on the separatists, so that they would agree that as of midnight on Saturday night or Sunday morning, there is a ceasefire," Merkel said, commenting on the results of the talks.

We should not be Cheering war like this is a sports or video game. If Russia was really near its downfall, then there is no risk in pushing the button. We desperately need a peacemaker. Biden still runs home to Delaware in the middle of a crisis. Harris is probably even worse than Biden. There is absolutely nobody in the West even willing to talk. All they do is spew hatred. This clearly suggests that they WANT war – not peace. I am asked China to try to step in here and adopt the role of the peacemaker. There is no such person in the West and without one, full-blown war is rapidly approaching. Even the Bible talked about the peacemaker of where there are none today.
Matthew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.



A List of measures to fulfill the Minsk Agreement

February 12, 2015

1. An immediate and comprehensive ceasefire in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine and its strict implementation starting at 0000 (Kyiv time) February 15, 2015.

2. The withdrawal of all heavy weapons by both parties at equal distances in order to create at least a 50 kilometer security zone for 100mm or larger caliber artillery systems, a 70 kilometer security zone for Grad multiple rocket launcher systems and a 140 kilometer security zone for the Tornado-S, Uragan, and Smerch multiple rocket launcher systems and Tochka (Tochka-U) tactical missile systems:

– for the Ukrainian troops: [withdrawal] from the actual contact line;

– for the military units of individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine: [withdrawal] from the contact line in accordance with the Minsk memorandum of September 19, 2014

Withdrawal of aforementioned heavy weapons shall begin no later than the second day of the ceasefire and end within 14 days.

The OSCE will contribute to this process with the support of the Trilateral Contact Group.

3. Starting the first day of such withdrawal, ensuring the effective monitoring and verification by the OSCE of the ceasefire and the withdrawal of heavy weapons with the use of all necessary technical means, including satellites, UAVs, radar systems, etc.

4. On the first day after the withdrawal, to begin a dialogue on the procedures for holding local elections in accordance with Ukrainian law and the Law of Ukraine "On a temporary order of local government in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions," as well as on the future regime of these areas, according to this Act.

Immediately, no later than 30 days from the date of signing of this document, to adopt a resolution of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine with the specification of a territory subject to the special regime in accordance with the Law of Ukraine "On temporary order of local government in some regions of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions" based on the line set in a Minsk memorandum of September 19, 2014

5. To provide pardons and amnesties by the enactment of a law prohibiting prosecution and punishment of persons with regard to the events that took place in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine.

6. To ensure the release and exchange of hostages and illegally detained persons based on the principle of "all for all". This process must be completed no later than the fifth day after the withdrawal.

7. To provide secure access, delivery, storage and distribution of humanitarian aid to the needy on the basis of an international mechanism.

8. Determination of the procedure for the full restoration of the socio-economic relations, including transactions of social payments, such as pensions and other payments (takings and income, timely payment of all utility bills, renewal of taxation within Ukraine's legal framework).

To this end, Ukraine shall regain control over the segment of its banking system in conflict-affected areas, and an international mechanism to facilitate such transfers will probably be created.

9. Restoration of full control over the state border of Ukraine by Ukraine's government throughout the whole conflict area, which should begin on the first day after the local elections and be completed after a comprehensive political settlement (local elections in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions on the basis of the Law of Ukraine, and a constitutional reform) by the end of 2015, on condition of implementation of paragraph 11 – with consultations and in agreement with the representatives of individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in the framework of the Trilateral Contact Group.

10. The withdrawal of all foreign armed forces, military equipment, as well as mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under the supervision of the OSCE. Disarmament of all illegal groups.

11. Conducting constitutional reform in Ukraine, with the new constitution coming into force by the end of 2015, providing for decentralization as a key element (taking into account the characteristics of individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, agreed with representatives of these areas), as well as the adoption of the permanent legislation on the special status of individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in accordance with the measures specified in Note [1], until the end of 2015. (See Notes)

12. On the basis of the Law of Ukraine "On temporary order of local government in individual areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions" the questions regarding local elections shall be discussed and agreed with the individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in the framework of the Trilateral Contact Group. Elections will be held in compliance with the relevant standards of the OSCE with the monitoring by the OSCE ODIHR.

13. To intensify the activities of the Trilateral Contact Group, including through the establishment of working groups to implement the relevant aspects of the Minsk Agreement. They will reflect the composition of the Trilateral Contact Group.

Notes:

Such measures, in accordance with the Law "On the special order of local government in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions," include the following:

– Exemption from punishment, harassment and discrimination of persons associated with the events that took place in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions;

– The right to self-determination with regard to language;

– Participation of local governments in the appointment of heads of prosecutors' offices and courts in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions;

– The possibility for the central executive authorities to conclude agreements with the relevant local authorities on economic, social and cultural development of individual areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions;

– The state shall support socio-economic development of individual areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions;

– Assistance from the central government to cross-border cooperation between the individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions and regions of the Russian Federation;

– The creation of people's militia units [police] upon the decision of local councils in order to maintain public order in individual areas of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions;

– The powers of local council deputies and other officials elected in snap elections, appointed by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine according to this law, cannot be terminated.

The document is signed by the members of a Trilateral Contact Group:

[OSCE] Ambassador Heidi Tagliavini

Second President of Ukraine L.D. Kuchma

The Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Ukraine M.Yu. Zurabov

A. V. Zakharchenko

I. V. Plotnitsky

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/comment-from-inside-ukraine-lack-of-peacemakers/

It is difficult to know the exact truth about what is really going on.

One thing is that the Deep State have been doing everything they can to create an energy crisis.  First thing Biden did when sworn in was cancel the Keystone pipeline in western Canada that would have supplied much needed reserves.
Also Michigan has been trying to shut down a line that supplies refineries inmany states and provinces in Canada.
They have cancelled new permits for well exploration and so on.....

Now this war is playing right into this agenda.....hmmmmm

Yes, the situation right now could be concerning for us all.
even if we are not at war.

Suggestions of fuel and food price hikes..
or maybe even energy cuts altogether.

It certainly could be worth stocking up on supplies and also looking for alternative fuel or heating supplies.

If they start doing power cuts...it may be mainly electricity... so if one has gas heating , they may be ok.
but if they were to cut both supplies off...

Then depending upon peoples individual situation or circumstances... it maybe a case of obtaining candles, matches,Torches,  various batteries inc a car one/s , some sort of flammable fuel, maybe a Camping stove with gas or butene or propene canisters , Tilley lamp & Fuel for it such as with paraffin (kerosene) , wood or coal to burn. or a generator and fuel for it if one is able to obtain one. Warm clothes and warm bedding.

Some of the gurus who we follow , are suggesting that part of what is going on is to rise prices or make energy
too expensive for people to afford, esp for the elderly. in which they suggest more people will die.

In the and maybe many of the European countries, the weather and temperatures have been general mild for the winter months of the year so far, but it is still cold enough to require reasonable heating.
But providing what happens in the next 2 to 3 months...where its still to have cool later March / April..

Also so at least the Clock changes (Go or Spring forward an hour ) occur over this weekend in the USA and two weeks later in the UK at the end of Sunday March 27th . so we will have an extra hour day light in the evening.

Hopefully if we get past into May.. at least we may have missed the worst of cooler temperatures at least for most of the rest of the year. In which time we have to hope the war ends and other things will change for the better.

Quote from: micjer on March 10, 2022, 01:13:16 PM
It is difficult to know the exact truth about what is really going on.

One thing is that the Deep State have been doing everything they can to create an energy crisis.  First thing Biden did when sworn in was cancel the Keystone pipeline in western Canada that would have supplied much needed reserves.
Also Michigan has been trying to shut down a line that supplies refineries inmany states and provinces in Canada.
They have cancelled new permits for well exploration and so on.....

Now this war is playing right into this agenda.....hmmmmm

The agenda all along is about compliance, with huge population reduction.

Know the agenda then all is clear.

They will force a different lockdown where only essential workers can travel, then it will be the banks closing their doors and access to funds, they are showing their hand with taking the Russians assets.

Don't focus upon the media false reporting, see the consequences.

Their objective is to break any resistance, then total compliance.

Kevin

If the Stock Markets start to crash (probably it would take further declines than present ), then they will quite possibly have or show concerns over the banks and pesion funds , financials etc or controlling the money supply.

Then that really will trap people.  which they have done this in the past if I recall in the 2007/ 2009 crash at least for a while they did create banking issues.

The thing is if people have not with drawn sufficient money... that could really put them in a bad way in the worst case scenerio.

The question is then what does people then do about it.
Not to mention food panics in the shops again and lack of supplies.

IF such a thing should happen and one does NOT  have enough money or supplies in store , they then no doubt will be caught in the trap and in trouble.

IF a market crash is going to continue... I am honestly expecting it from about March 27th to April 10th.

I would be suspecting that we may see a rally start  from a low point IF IT FORMS..due anywhere between Mar 11th, 14th or 18th to rally to the end of the month..   and then a possible Large decline into April or maybe May. that may be what they call a double bottom... ie two low points in the market.

I think if the market still declines below any Low pivots made in the next week, then if those lows break after Mar 18th, anything could happen..but id suspect it could maintain its decline to the end of the Month. and that could turn out to be a overall severe decline since the Jan 5th 2022 high.

This could be similar to what we seen in the Feb to March HUGE decline.

If you recall tha caused MASS panic and was the largest decline EVER in History of the stock market.

I doubt it will be as bad as in 2020.. but I suspect it will create panic if it occurs.

Quote from: kevin on March 10, 2022, 02:59:20 PM
The agenda all along is about compliance, with huge population reduction.

Know the agenda then all is clear.

They will force a different lockdown where only essential workers can travel, then it will be the banks closing their doors and access to funds, they are showing their hand with taking the Russians assets.

Don't focus upon the media false reporting, see the consequences.

Their objective is to break any resistance, then total compliance.

Kevin

QuoteA must see Tucker Carlson segment on the Ukrainian bio labs and the lies coming out of the current Deepstate administration..
Statements from Russia and China.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EHhrwFWWAPXu/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/EHhrwFWWAPXu/)

And here comes this piece of garbage PREDICTING that this will come next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4a5bWDNLSg
Blame the Chinese for releasing a pandemic, now blame the Russians.

Handy if that's in the planning all along.

https://youtu.be/0IZQJyk3L58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkJ7XLUMV7A

And they said it wasn't gene therapy.
Kevin

Quote from: kevin on March 10, 2022, 10:54:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkJ7XLUMV7A

And they said it wasn't gene therapy.
Kevin

Wrong thread?

It's becoming difficult to separate current events between war and biological war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flIkGpjR0g&t=992s

Kevin

Quote from: kevin on March 11, 2022, 08:55:00 AM
It's becoming difficult to separate current events between war and biological war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flIkGpjR0g&t=992s

Kevin

Just because of that let's try to keep things in their places and do not make cross posts, right?

https://youtu.be/tieyI65766Y

Probably want them to destroy evidence of what they were doing also

How the media is used to create wars, so called pandemics also.
https://rumble.com/vhkk3x-busted-media-crimes-exposed.html?mref=7ju1&mrefc=3&fbclid=IwAR1y_eJUYaBRUDgccMTLpBRFYuMT-O2sfqJ0DBJF9hgusWg12xE3AkfIrn0

Kevin

US & its Secret Biological Weapons Labs & Neocons.

QuoteThere are Biolabs in Ukraine funded by the US. There was never any real question if they existed or not. The rumor two days after the Russian invasion began, the claim was that Russia was targeting them for destruction. I wrote on February 26, 2022, that such a rumor was false and I pointed out that Russia would never target those labs for destruction. Instead, they would prefer to capture them to illustrate that people like Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland, a notorious Neocon, who just wants war has for decades played the Neocon agenda of offensive war against everyone other than the United States – yes even Europe.

Victoria Nuland is a strategic player in government for the Neocons who have led US foreign policy from one disaster to another for the past 30 years while avoiding accountability. Nobody really understands that these people are directing the country without Congressional knowledge or the approval of the people.

(https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Nuland-Victoria-2-440x300.jpg)

They pretend America always wears the white hat when in fact their objectives are offensive and not defensive. They lie awake at night dreaming how they can destroy Russia and China for they wallow in hatred and never accepted that communism actually fell for they demonized Chinese and Russians where politics became irrelevant. The Neocons sabotage any effort whatsoever to further world peace. It was shocking that President Joe Biden has nominated Victoria Nuland for the third-highest position at the State Department, Under Secretary for Political Affairs with her history of manipulating the endless policy of war that the American people are against.

Yes, I know Bill Kristol and he even spoke at our WEC I believe back in 1996. Once upon a time, we were friends until I came to see his true colors. Bill has become a hard-core Neocon and his book on Iraq provided the blueprint for the overthrow of Saddam. Bill Tweeted that Russia would stage a filmed invasion to justify invading Ukraine. That was total nonsense and the Neocons will NEVER admit to the dark history of supporting Ukrainian Nazis or the false flag of shooting down the Malaysian passenger flight and blaming Russia to try to support WWIII. Neocons are notorious for making up BS that can be anything to support war as they did about the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq that never existed.

Bill Kristol was against Trump because Trump was against the Neocon agenda of endless war. People have to know that there is a sub-element inside the US government that is NOT elected and always pushing their own hateful agenda regardless if it is Republican or Democrat. They are a unique force all their own and people fall for their manipulation techniques to demonize their enemy to cover up their own hatred and covert agenda. Speak against them and they will paint you as a traitor, yet nobody even gets to votes on their agenda.

Back then, US Senator Rand Paul urged President Trump not to choose neoconservative Elliott Abrams to serve in the No. 2 spot at the US State Department. In an op-ed published in the libertarian website Rand Paul argued:

"Elliott Abrams is a neoconservative too long in the tooth to change his spots, and the president should have no reason to trust that he would carry out a Trump agenda rather than a neocon agenda."

From 2003 to 2005 Victoria Nuland was THE principal foreign policy advisor to VP  Dick Cheney who in fact helped to both plan and manage the war to overthrow Saddam Hussein. Nuland was advising and assisting the Bush administration's case for a preemptive military strike against Iraq for what they alleged were weapons of mass destruction. She argued that removing Saddam Hussein and installing a US "ally" would be simple and secure the Middle East – WRONG!. Nuland was also for the occupation of both Iraq and Afghanistan. Both were to be a strategic acquisition for her neocon agenda.

During the spring of 2011, Victoria Nuland became State Department spokesperson under Hillary Clinton. It was Nuland who pushed for "regime change" to also overthrow Moammar Ghaddafi of Libya. UN Security Council resolution 1973 authorized a "No Fly Zone" for the protection of civilians so she claimed. Then Nuland turned to try to do the same in Syria. Instead of looking at how dangerous Nuland was becoming to world peace, the Clintons retained Nuland for she argued to overthrow Ghaddafi who they always paint as the devil just as she did with Saddam.  Demonizing these heads of state, Nuland turned the same strategy on Assad of Syria. She has always demonized her opponent to justify sending in arms to insurgents seeking to overthrow this time the Syrian government. In January 2012, Nuland claimed that the US is "on the side of those wanting peaceful change in Syria." She has lied to the people every time to support her neocon agenda that people of the United States are never allowed to vote on. While professing she wanted a peaceful overthrow of the regime, she was supplying weapons for the violent overthrow. This was confirmed in secret DOD documents which state:

"During the immediate aftermath of, and following the uncertainty caused by, the downfall of the [Qaddafi] regime in October 2011 and up until early September of 2012, weapons from the former Libya military stockpiles located in Benghazi, Libya were shipped from the port of Benghazi, Libya to the ports of Banias and the Port of Borj Islam, Syria."

This brings us to Ukraine and the Biolabs. In September 2013 Victoria Nuland was appointed Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs. While the people were rising up against Yanukovich on their own, she and Senator John McCain, another Neocon, passed out food and McCain made a speech to the crowd saying that the US stands behind them. Nuland worked hard to push for the overthrow of Yanukovich and I can confirm that the people were being told to accept the replacement government selected with the approval of Nuland or they would lose the support of the West. It was in early February 2014 when an audio recording of Nuland talking to the US Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, was leaked to the public. The conversation showed the world just how ruthless Nuland truly is for she then said "frig the EU." It is always her neocon agenda which neither Congress nor the people are ever informed even exists.

While John McCain may be dead, the other hardcore Neocon in politics is Lindsey Graham who is also on that agenda. McCain and Graham were actually addressing the Ukrainian Nazis troops against Russia. They promised them support and the Neocons were in fact always supporting their internal civil war against the Russian-speaking Ukrainians in Donetsk and Luhansk. They pushed for sanctions against Russia for Crimea.


Lindsey Graham has called for a Russian to assassinate Putin which is insane. Facebook suddenly suspends its rules against violence as long as it is directed at hating Russians. Of course, Zuckerberg is a Young Global Leader of Schwab calling into question the integrity of the World Economic Forum. However, assassinating Putin and Russia will respond with someone far more nationalistic. Is Graham also just trying to start World War III? But this is the crisis we have with these Neocons who have dug in deep into the bowls of Washington. They are just hateful people that do not reflect the American people.

So when Biden then promoted Nuland, it has been VERY disturbing for what she does is always hidden from the truth and I would not put it past her for one minute to stage a Biological Attack in Ukraine and blame Russia. Anything to start WWIII. I have long suspected that she may have been behind the Ukrainian firing of an old Russian missile that shot down the Malaysia flight for which the US immediately blamed Russia and imposed sanctions when in fact Russia no longer used those missiles and the plane was shot down in Ukraine, not Russia. This idea of killing Americans any used that to justify invading Cuba by the Neocons back in the 1960s was rejected by President Kennedy and they probably killed him for it.

The Neocons hated Trump because he would not carry out that agenda. Just Google and you will see the hatred Bill Kristol had for Trump and it was all about his refusal to follow their agenda. Why did Obama follow the Neocons as is Biden? The rumor is they are afraid of Neocons for they most likely removed Kennedy from office. They did a good job of stabbing Trump in the back as well. They were afraid if they killed him, his picture would be on a new $1 coin.

The US has Biolabs, 130 according to sources, and has REFUSED to allow international inspections. This is NOT the type of government we voted for regardless of whether you are Democrat or Republican. Nuland has worked there clandestinely through all administrations and the tactic is always the same – demonize your opponent to justify war even when the facts are total bullshit – i.e. Weapons of Mass Destruction that never existed, just move on. They will always claim that their opponent will accuse them of what they themselves are doing. Their motto – always deny.

The famous Colan Powell speech to justify the war against Iraq at the United Nations was a defining moment on the credibility of the Neocon agenda that nobody ever seems to expose. Colan Powell explains how the Neocons use the mantle of patriotism to hide their objectives by waving that flag to get people to trust them in their leadership which they know is essential to waging their endless wars.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/us-its-secret-biological-weapons-labs-neocons/


Trump Warned NATO of Europe's Reliance on Russian Energy.

QuoteEveryone criticized Trump for condemning his NATO allies in 2018. At the time, only five nations were meeting their 2% GDP spending requirement on NATO defense, with the US paying around 5%. Trump suggested that everyone contribute 4% to build a stronger alliance. He never wanted to back away from NATO to support Putin, rather, he wanted to back away from NATO because he felt the US had been taken advantage of by its European allies.

Trump called Ukraine the wall between Russia and Europe and stated that America had become the "sucker country" by shelling out millions to Ukraine when they received far less in return. He warned Europe that their reliance on Russian imported energy would spell disaster and went as far as declaring that Germany was "totally controlled by Russia." Instead of looking for energy alternatives, Germany went through with the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline and wasted billions as sanctions were implemented before the pipeline was fully functional.

Western world leaders failed us by using Russia as the easy solution for energy while simultaneously failing to have any diplomatic relationships with the country. The energy crisis was preventable.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/energy/trump-warned-nato-on-europes-reliance-
on-russian-energy/

Ukraine the Real Story

QuoteCOMMENT: Former national security adviser John Bolton that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin was "waiting" for a possible United States withdrawal from NATO, claiming former President Donald Trump would have likely made such a move had he been reelected, The Hill reports.
I also see that Steve Bannon is going after Hannity for jumping off the Putin wagon and also Pence letting the orange turd know he is also. They eat their own in the republican party...
CN

REPLY: Bolton was a plant in the Trump Administration. The Deep State selected Trump's cabinet. I am not speculating. I myself was asked to take the position of Chief Economic Adviser during the Bush Jr. Administration and declined. Bolton is a warmonger. He came out against Trump because he wanted to exit Afghanistan. I went to Mar-a-Lago for a private dinner and I was shocked. It was the very first time I EVER heard a president say it bothered him to send letters to parents and received bodies of American soldiers who died in Afghanistan and he said for what? "They have been fighting over borders for a thousand years. What difference are we going to make." Never have I ever heard any president concerned about American life.

You may hate Trump, but what you have voted for is the start of the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization. You can deny everything and Bolton can spin his BS. Biden is now blaming Putin for the rise in gas prices when from the outset he promised to "end fossil fuels" and immediately took that position. These sanctions against Russia are also to accomplish the same ends – terminating fossil fuels because these people really think there are only 7 years left and that was 2 years ago.

Remember Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17/MAS17) which was a scheduled passenger flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur? It was shot down on July 17, 2014, while flying over Eastern Ukraine. All 283 passengers and 15 crew were killed. Immediately the US accused Russia and then imposed sanctions on them. It was shot down by the Ukrainian Nazis with an old Russian missile that Russia was no longer using. They did so trying to get the US to enter their revolution against Russians living there in Donestk. Why has Zelensky refused to allow those people to vote? Russia had no motive to shoot down that flight and it was not over Russian territory. It was a false flag to try to blame Russia by the very Ukrainian Nazis who support Zelensky.

You should watch the film Ukraine on Fire by Oliver Stone before you make assumptions. People are clueless as to the real story of Ukraine. They too joined the German Nazis and also engaged in the genocide of Poles, Jews, and Russians. They were notorious but BECAUSE they also hated Russians. For this reason, the Ukrainian Nazis were NEVER put on trial for the very same war crimes that the Germans carried out. So your enemy is my friend as they say. You are cheering for Zelensky who is also trying to create World War III not just because he hates Russians allowing the civil war to continue against them, but he is also in league with Schwab and his World Economic Forum seeking to destroy the world economy so they can BUILD BACK BETTER under the economic theories of Schwab.

They used psychological warfare to make sure you hated Trump and voted for Biden not on issues, but solely on your hatred. They are carrying out the very same psychological warfare to get you to also now hate Putin and therefore you will NEVER look at the facts.

This is not an issue of supporting Trump or Putin. This is an issue of supporting humanity against those who think they are God and can reshape the future into the design that they have in their wild imaginations. These people are DESPERATELY trying to create World War III stirring your hatred so you become a mindless pawn in the war games. You might as well wear an explosive vest and blow yourself up for Allah, for they use the very same tactics on young Arab kids to die for their political games as well. Leaders of such movements never blow themselves up – it is convincing others to do so.

The "orange turd" as you say was demonized and his controller was said to be Putin. To accomplish this agenda, they needed to remove Trump, then Putin, and then they will turn on China. Soros, who I believe is behind the funding of Zelensky, is already out starting to demonize Xi Jinping in China where Soros has declared "the greatest threat that open societies face today." To support their agenda, they have to get you hating China, Russia, and Trump. I believe COVID was created in a lab and deliberately leaked in China and then they call it the CCP virus.

You have no idea what is really going on and if anyone tries to expose it, they dismiss it as conspiracy theory so they never have to answer questions. You probably are also one of those people who couldn't wait to keep getting vaccine boosters and wore your mask in your car while driving alone. Do you also sleep with a condom on at night when alone just in case?

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/ukraine-the-real-story/

UN Head: 'BONE-CHILLING Nuclear War A Possibility'

"This war will have no winners, only losers"

Quote
The Secretary General of the United Nations became the latest globalist figure to state that a nuclear war is on the horizon Monday, describing it as a "bone-chilling" development.

UN head Antonio Guterres warned that the escalation of war in Ukraine "whether by accident or design" threatens the existence of life on Earth, noting that "The prospect of nuclear conflict, once unthinkable, is now back within the realm of possibility."

Guterres added that "this war will have no winners, only losers," further stating that "This war goes far beyond Ukraine."

Guterres' comments come days after the head of the European Council Charles Michel told reporters that if NATO enters the conflict between Russia and Ukraine it will almost certainly lead to a third world war, which will be nuclear.

"Russia is a nuclear power and we are well aware that if this conflict turns into [a conflict] between NATO and Russia, we will roll down into the Third World War," Michael said, further warning it would be a "dimension of a different nature."

A fortnight ago, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that if a third World War were to take place, it would be "nuclear" and "destructive," as Moscow put its nuclear forces on a "special regime of combat duty".

Last week, U.S. intelligence officials claimed that Vladimir Putin is 'desperate' to end the conflict over Ukraine, with some privately suggesting he could set off a tactical nuclear weapon in a Ukrainian city to get the job done.

There were even wild claims that Putin has moved his family to a secret Siberian underground city in preparation of nuclear war.

The warnings came after the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that Ukrainian intelligence conspired with anti-Russian extremist militants to stage a false flag attack on a nuclear reactor in the Ukrainian city of Kharkov.

The Ukrainian government also announced last week that they had detected "elevated levels of radiation" after claiming Russia deliberately attacked a nuclear plant, calling for NATO to impose a no fly zone, but IAEA officials later clarified that no leak had been detected.

People in the U.S. and multiple different European countries are panic buying iodine pills in fear of nuclear fallout caused by the conflict in Ukraine.


A Rasmussen Reports survey released Monday found that three-quarters of Americans are worried Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.


Meanwhile, the Pentagon has warned that "If China does choose to materially support Russia in this war, there'll likely be consequences."

(https://cdn.summit.news/2022/03/GettyImages-640338168.jpg)

I wonder why this picture shows a Nuclear explosion that appears to be near a built up area / some city of town and where it occurred ?

https://summit.news/2022/03/15/un-head-bone-chilling-nuclear-war-a-possibility/


I was watching a TV program earlier on called "River |Monsters", that was about a Well Known UK Fisherman who travels the world fishing for Very Large Freshwater fish. Often in ref to cases of Large fish that have done damage to  or even killed people.

and on this episode he visited Chernobyl... and I had not realised it was in the Ukraine and it will be 36 years ago on April 26th since  the Nuclear plant disaster occurred.

He had heared of stories of people having seen some large strange fish in the water  areas of the plant.
and he did manage to catch something from it.. and had wanted to see how the radiation may had effected the fish.   Well seeing him catch something proved that the fish in the enclosed area  have managed to survive.
(I wonder if water has any effect on reducing radiation ?)

https://river-monsters.fandom.com/wiki/Chernobyl

https://chernobylstory.com/blog/chernobyl-giant-catfish/#:~:text=Two-headed%20wolves%2C%20enormous%20snakes%2C%20mutant%20fish%20from%20Chernobyl,and%20animals%20that%20live%20in%20the%20contaminated%20areas.

where as thousand of people were said to have died or suffered bad effects.

I assume we can all remember some of the worst days of our lifes... Well April 25th/ 26th have been two of the worst days in my life now on two occasions.. and  one included back in 1986.. and I had not realsied that was when the Chernobyl disaster occurred.

Its to hope that we / I do not see another bad day in April coming up that relates to anything Nuclear !.

QuoteThe Chernobyl disaster was a nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986 at the No. 4 reactor in the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, near the city of Pripyat in the north of the Ukrainian SSR in the Soviet Union.[1][2] It is considered the worst nuclear disaster in history both in cost and casualties.[3] It is one of only two nuclear energy accidents rated at seven—the maximum severity—on the International Nuclear Event Scale, the other being the 2011 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in Japan. The initial emergency response, together with later decontamination of the environment, involved more than 500,000 personnel and cost an estimated 18 billion Soviet rubles—roughly US$68 billion in 2019, adjusted for inflation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-human-traffciking-416319

Interesting article about human trafficking in Ukraine written in 2015

https://americascivilwarrising.org/exclusive-the-russians-have-videos-of-me-doing-crazy-fing-sex-hunter-biden-is-seen-in-unearthed-footage-telling-prostitute-that-russian-drug-dealers-stole-another-of-his-laptops-biden-cri/
Warning on link.... explicit content


Hunter Biden says Russians stole 3 of his laptops.

Wonder what kind of dirt they got on him....

Quote from: astr0144 on March 16, 2022, 12:00:27 AM
UN Head: 'BONE-CHILLING Nuclear War A Possibility'

"This war will have no winners, only losers"

I find it interesting that they never mentioned that many references of a third World War (and use of nuclear weapons) have been a response to Ukraine's asking for a no-fly zone over Ukraine created by NATO.
All serious answers have been "no" because it would most likely have a much worse consequence.

I am not sure specifically what you mean or how I may interpret what you have wrote , do you ref to the actual article  or something wrote in it that refers to something, such as Ukraine ref to no-Fly Zone in ref to  Nato for eg  or do you refer to Paul Watson who posts the article/s on his website who may have not posted many other articles related to WW3 ?

https://summit.news/

I am doubtful that Nuke weapons would occur at least at this stage so far...

I think it would only occurr if Other Countries were to retaliate direct against Russia or get involved to side  militarily with Ukraine.

Those suggesting such things or posting articles about the possibilities, hopefullly are just fear mongering.

Is it still just an early stage of a chess Game with a few casualities or building up for a much more indepth outlook ?

The thing is you could understand Putin taking action if he is aware of USA / or Nato having Bioweapons within or near by the Borders of the Ukraine or he he believed that that Russian Type Nazi's were involved in some plan to oppose Russia or create some major problem to Russia or the World.

But its terriible at some of the things that have occurred so far at the Cost to the Ukraine people. in terms of deaths and injuries to them and them having to act against them or the people having to leave their Country.

Its hard to say if someone is aiming to create a diliberate war as some Gurus have been indicating !
or If it could be some part of a conspiracy plan in reality.

The thing is.... The Like of the Superpowers have managed to avoid such types of Nuke wars, knowing the consequences. and it would be hard to believe that some Country would attempt to risk to start one.

Quote from: ArMaP on March 16, 2022, 12:47:09 AM
I find it interesting that they never mentioned] that many references of a third World War (and use of nuclear weapons) have been a response to Ukraine's asking for a no-fly zone over Ukraine created by NATO.
All serious answers have been "no" because it would most likely have a much worse consequence.

Everybody should probably start stockpiling toilet paper and learn to make bread. That worked so well at bringing the pandemic to a screeching halt. Personally, I'd rather go out side and howl at 8 o'clock in the evening.

During the Pandmic in the UK... the Govt / media persuaded many of  the public become sheep like by clapping for the NHS at about 8 Pm if I recall each week. ad yes it was being suggested that the Pubic were buying and stocking up on Toilet paper and pasta and flour to bake bread.

Howling maybe a better option to along with the feline chorus to show their concern to the war / World Concerns to the Powers that be, (as long as the people dont turn to become werewolves) or rather consider bahing like sheep,

Quote from: Shasta56 on March 16, 2022, 02:53:47 AM
Everybody should probably start stockpiling toilet paper and learn to make bread. That worked so well at bringing the pandemic to a screeching halt. Personally, I'd rather go out side and howl at 8 o'clock in the evening.

Quote from: astr0144 on March 16, 2022, 01:21:42 AM
I am not sure specifically what you mean or how I may interpret what you have wrote , do you ref to the actual article  or something wrote in it that refers to something, such as Ukraine ref to no-Fly Zone in ref to  Nato for eg  or do you refer to Paul Watson who posts the article/s on his website who may have not posted many other articles related to WW3 ?

https://summit.news/

I am doubtful that Nuke weapons would occur at least at this stage so far...

I think it would only occurr if Other Countries were to retaliate direct against Russia or get involved to side  militarily with Ukraine.

Exactly, and that was the answer given by several people to Zelensky when he asked NATO to implement a no-fly zone over Ukraine. That would imply NATO forces shooting down Russian aircraft, and that would only escalate the war.
All the occasions I saw with people talking about a possible World War were based on a direct military NATO/US intervention against Russia.

QuoteBut its terriible at some of the things that have occurred so far at the Cost to the Ukraine people. in terms of deaths and injuries to them and them having to act against them or the people having to leave their Country.

As we say in Portugal, "when the sea hits the rocks, it's the mussel that gets screwed", meaning that those that suffer the consequences are always the smaller and most fragile.
All wars affect more the people that didn't have a saying in the decision making while those making the decision suffer very little or nothing.

Quote from: Shasta56 on March 16, 2022, 02:53:47 AM
Everybody should probably start stockpiling toilet paper and learn to make bread.

Toilet paper bread must have a strange taste...  :P

Herr Schwab will be so happy to see one of His little puppies Z-burger allowing praise of the Ukranian Azov nazi's., on His meta.
Kevin

Quote from: kevin on March 16, 2022, 10:59:15 PM
Herr Schwab will be so happy to see one of His little puppies Z-burger allowing praise of the Ukranian Azov nazi's., on His meta.
Kevin

Could you please write that in English? I don't understand a thing of what you are trying to say.

I wondered about Kevins Comments,

I think he was suggesting that Swabb has some connection with Zelensky in ref to the Ukraine Nazis  plans or to create some further issues maybe could negaively effect any peace talks to mintain a WW3 if thats Swabbs plan,
in which Zelensky may have been defending them which is to support Swabbs and his  suggested agendas.

Quote from: ArMaP on March 17, 2022, 12:32:43 AM
Could you please write that in English? I don't understand a thing of what you are trying to say.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10618543/Putins-daughters-home-Surrey-revealed-amid-hunt-billions.html

Putin probably is the richest man on earth.

Sure looks like a mob boss the wsy he demands a cut from the wealthy business men that he controls.

He looks after his daughters quite well accorfing to this report

Facebook, meta now a owned by zburger.... zuckerberger is now allowing praise of the Nazi's in Ukraine.

All of these young global leaders are acting for Schwab, to implement the fourth reich ...technological revolution.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/roscosmos-zuckerberg-dorsey-nazis-facebook-instagram-policy-change-b2033653.html
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/ygl-wef-young-global-leaders/
Kevin

NATO Calls up Hundreds of Thousands of Troops Ready to Begin WWIII

QuoteThe pressure to start World War III is on. NATO now expects that there will be a major war with Russia and the confrontation may come even in a few weeks. The NATO Secretary-General announced an increased war alert for hundreds of thousands of soldiers. Stoltenberg issued a joint statement with US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, stating that hundreds of thousands of NATO troops were placed on high alert along with 100,000 US troops.

The problem with war is that BOTH sides lie and twist the facts to support their own agenda. They paint their adversary as evil to stir up the troops to go fight and risk their lives typically for fake stories and agendas.

The Press is deliberately trying to create World War III and is engaged in using photos of children hurt and others from events unrelated to Ukraine. This is all to beat the war drums to create World War III without any honest understanding of what that will mean.

Despite the hatred and demonization of Putin, he has been trying to take the high road. Zelensky has been following his orders and refusing to compromise on anything.

We may see this crisis turn into a confrontation as soon as the week of April 18th going into the first week of May based upon our computer models. But the real crisis may come in August and turn global in 2023. I am glad I spent a fair portion of my life in Europe to see all the historical monuments before these people feel the need to destroy the world over two provinces in Ukraine. I fear this time, the monuments will not survive.

Pray for civilization for we have madmen leading the West into World War III all so they can Build Back Better as they did following World War II with Bretton Woods II, but this time we are facing a completely different war with biological and nuclear weapons.

Unfortunately, the press will NEVER tell us the truth or explain just why people are expected to lose their lives for some noble cause that is always some propaganda to support a political agenda. This time, the bombs will be wiping out American cities unlike World War I and II not to mention Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or other clandestine operations. You may not be watching it on TV but out your own window.

Well, we get what we deserve. America voted for Biden, Britain for Johnson, Canada for Trudeau, and Ukraine for Zelensky. There is no peacemaker and certainly no statesman among the crop of world leaders today. To even question what is going on they cancel you now as a Putin supporter to once more not have to explain the truth. There is NEVER truth to be found in the propaganda of war for either side.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/nato-calls-up-hundreds-of-thousands-of-troops-ready-to-begin-wwiii/


The Scheme behind the Great Reset.

QuoteAs the press covered Zelnensky's professional speech carried out by his acting training, he continued to try to pull on the heartstrings of the American people to further the hatred of Putin and to wage World War III. He knows what he is asking for and he is not stupid. Zelensky said on March 16 that World War III may have already started amid the Russia–Ukraine conflict. He is desperately trying to create World War III. This will end up nuclear and he is no hero, and the press had better start doing some real investigative work before it is too late.

The National Hero of Ukraine in Zelensky's mind is Stephan Bandera who was a Ukrainian Nazi in whose name they massacred hundreds of Jews, Poles, and Russians with the same philosophy of ethnic purity. The Ukrainian Nazis were protected by the CIA and the Neocons BECAUSE they also hated Russians. The German Nazis were put on trial but the US covered up the Ukrainian Nazis because they hated Russians and that warranted their partnership.

Bandera's monument stands in Ukraine not as a Nazi war criminal, but as a national hero. The Jews who hunted down Nazis who fled never knew the full story about the Ukrainian Nazis who the US protected.

The money that was behind Zelensky for his career came from an oligarch linked to George Soros who did what he could to make sure Zelensky knows that his repeated call for the U.S. to enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine will not spare his country – it will result in its total destruction. That will be an all-out war between the United States and Russia which will drag in China and North Korea as well as in the Balkans from Serbia and Belarus just for starters. Iran will love to join the party against the West and you can bet that will result in bombs falling on Israel.

Even the latest James Bond movie was about bioweapons that can target an individual or a specific ethnicity. This is why Macron refused to take a COVID test in Russia because that would give them his DNA. The Biolabs the US has been running on the border of Russia in Ukraine and China are alleged to be engaged in creating such bioweapons. The US denies that but they also refuse to allow international observers to inspect these facilities – 130 in total.

George Soros in fact acknowledged in an interview with CNN that he actively contributed to the overthrow of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. He said:

"I created a foundation in Ukraine before it became independent from Russia. The foundation has functioned since then and has played an important role in current events,"

Soros supported  Volodymyr Zelensky for President and his friend secretly financed Zelensky – the Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. It was Kolomisky whose name surfaced in the Pandora Papers investigation, which was uncovered tracing money laundering by more than 600 journalists. The worldwide probe by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), included work by journalists from the Ukrainian as well. They connected the financial dealings of Zelensky's television production company Studio Kvartal 95 to the Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. Today, Kolomoisky is a person of interest in investigations in Ukraine, Britain, and the United States. However, now that Zelensky is being portrayed as a hero standing against Putin, none of this will see the light of day.

Now we have Soros out in force claiming that China in league with Russia will "destroy our civilization" when in fact Zelensky is the puppet pushing desperately for World War III so the Neocons can wage war against China and Russia and they think they will get to then usher in the Great Reset and restart the world monetary system all over again with the United Nations as the one-world governing body.

So while everyone cheers Zelensky, they have no idea what cost there will be in getting involved in Ukraine. Zelensky could have easily saved his country by just ending the idea of joining NATO, allowing the two provinces to vote on the separation as was in the Minsk Agreement of 2014, and end all claims to Crimea which was historically Russian territory that was simply assigned to Ukraine for governorship under the Soviet Union. Ukraine was never its own country before the Soviet Union.

This is all being well played and they are desperate for the people to plead for war and that will be the crowning glory for the Great Reset – a completely new world order they get to create with their BUILD BACK BETTER agenda which by definition requires destroying the status quo first

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-scheme-behind-the-great-reset/





Putin Claims US Has Network of Coronavirus Bio-Warfare Labs in Ukraine

"They are now trying to sweep up the traces of these secret programs."

https://summit.news/2022/03/17/putin-claims-us-has-network-of-coronavirus-bio-warfare-labs-in-ukraine/

Arnold Schwarzenegger speaks to Russians in emotional plea against war in Ukraine

Arnold's made a online speech condemning the Ukraine war. Giving his view on it..
and making ref to how his father was misled to fight for Germany  and describes his involved activities
and how he was very badly effected by working for the "S.S" NAZI's in WW2.

He claims its nothing to do with Zelensky !

Its suggested that he has done an 8 to 9 min video.. I am not sure if the whole video is  in the
article as I am unable to see the video if its within it... or if easily found online

but I found some parts of it that I have posted links below.

QuoteHe asked Russian President Vladimir Putin, "Why would you sacrifice these young men for your own ambition? ... To President Putin, I say: You started this war. You are leading this war. You can stop this war."

Schwarzenegger said the Russian government's claim that it's attempting to "de-Nazify" Ukraine was completely untrue, pointing out that Ukraine's president, Volodymir Zelenskyy, is Jewish and lost relatives in the Holocaust.

"The Russian government has lied not only to its citizens but to its soldiers," he said, before returning to the story of his father.

QuoteArnold Schwarzenegger posted a heartfelt nine-minute video message on Twitter in an attempt to punch through propaganda and speak directly to the Russian people about the war in Ukraine. The legendary bodybuilder, action star and former California governor said he wanted his message to reach "my dear Russian friends."

"I'm speaking to you today because there are things that are being kept from you," he said. "Terrible things that you should know about."

He prefaced his condemnation of the Russian government's actions by speaking of his love and admiration for the Russian people — starting with his childhood hero, the weightlifting champion Yuri Petrovich Vlasov.

He said his father urged him to find a different hero. "We argued back and forth," Schwarzenegger said. "He didn't like Russians because of his experience in World War II." He spoke of his father's time fighting for the Nazis in Leningrad during the war — which he also raised in a powerful video he posted after the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

Schwarzenegger's comments, subtitled on screen in both Russian and English, then turned to focus on the grim reality of the situation in Ukraine, where deadly bombardments have forced 3 million Ukrainians to flee their homes.

    I love the Russian people. That is why I have to tell you the truth. Please watch and share. pic.twitter.com/6gyVRhgpFV
    — Arnold (@Schwarzenegger) March 17, 2022

He asked Russian President Vladimir Putin, "Why would you sacrifice these young men for your own ambition? ... To President Putin, I say: You started this war. You are leading this war. You can stop this war."

Schwarzenegger said the Russian government's claim that it's attempting to "de-Nazify" Ukraine was completely untrue, pointing out that Ukraine's president, Volodymir Zelenskyy, is Jewish and lost relatives in the Holocaust.

"The Russian government has lied not only to its citizens but to its soldiers," he said, before returning to the story of his father.

"When my father arrived in Leningrad, he was all pumped up on the lies of his government. When he left Leningrad, he was broken — physically and mentally. He lived the rest of his life in pain — pain from a broken back, pain from the shrapnel that always reminded him of those terrible years and pain from the guilt that he felt."

"To the Russian soldiers listening to this broadcast: You already know much of the truth that I'm speaking. You've seen it in your own eyes. I don't want you to be broken like my father," he said.

He ended the video by speaking to Russians who have protested their country's invasion of Ukraine.

"We know that you've suffered the consequences of your courage. You have been arrested, you've been jailed and you've been beaten. You are my new heroes. You have the strength of Yuri Petrovich Vlasov. You have the true heart of Russia."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arnold-schwarzenegger-russia-ukraine-nazi-father/?msclkid=f22f2025a6a711ec806d736301c66713

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=71&v=wQy0OdqYbGI&feature=emb_logo

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=arnald+Schwarzenegger+++ukraine+war&&view=detail&mid=1816DD0E0971F7E6F4C31816DD0E0971F7E6F4C3&&FORM=VRDGAR



Germany to Begin Confiscating Guns

QuoteGermany is repeating its past mistake from 1938 when Hitler authorized the Gun Control Act that banned "enemies of the state," such as liberals and Jews, from owning firearms. A few weeks later Kristallnacht (night of broken glass) occurred and the people were unable to defend themselves. As we know, it was only a downhill battle from there where the German people were utterly helpless against the Third Reich.

At a time when the world is praising Zelensky for arming citizens and praising the people for protecting their country, the rest of the Western world continues to condemn private gun ownership. Germany will begin disarming 1,500 people who they suspect (not confirmed) are extremists. Germany already has strict requirements for citizens to obtain firearms, but this measure could ensure that people with dissenting opinions are unable to defend themselves.

Trudeau, Putin, Biden, and most world leaders have recently decried citizens as far-right Nazi extremists without valid proof. Anyone could be declared an extremist if they disobey. Germany is taking it to a new extreme by potentially categorizing the entire Alternative for Germany Party (AfG) as dangerous extremists. This group has been vehemently opposed to COVID restrictions as well.

This will begin the trend of allowing governments to disarm people based on their political beliefs. They only want citizens to have guns when they are used to promote the government's agenda. Any dissenters will be labeled dangerous extremists who post a threat to national security. This exact event has happened numerous times throughout history and resulted in the government murdering millions (e.g., The USSR in 1929 and China in 1935).

Then we have this article  that refers to what Kevin said about Zucker and Facebook helping Zelensky.
What does one believe ?  Arnie / Zelensky / Zucker  version  or Putins (or gurus who dispute Zelensky)  ?


Zelensky Thanks Zuckerberg For Helping Him Win the Propaganda War
"It is also a fierce battle in the informational space."

QuoteUkrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Facebook for its role in helping him win the propaganda war after the platform announced it would permit calls for violence against Russians.

Following its move to allow praise for the pro-Ukraine neo-nazi Azov Battalion last week, Facebook said they would permit 'calls for violence against Russians'.

"As a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine we have temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that would normally violate our rules like violent speech such as 'death to the Russian invaders.' We still won't allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians," a Meta spokesperson said in a statement.

Moscow responded by banning both Facebook and Instagram in Russia.

President Zelensky took to Twitter to thank Zuckerberg for standing with Ukraine in the "informational space."

"War is not only a military opposition on UA land. It is also a fierce battle in the informational space," Zelensky tweeted. "I want to thank @Meta and other platforms that have an active position that help and stand side by side with the Ukrainians."

In other words, Facebook is directly aiding Ukraine by allowing pro-Ukraine propaganda to spread while banning any pro-Russia propaganda.

This despite the fact that there have been numerous huge fabricated stories in just a few weeks alone, including the Snake Island hoax and the supposed attack on a Holocaust memorial in Kiev that never happened.

"Facebook has helped Zelensky himself spread endless disinformation to try and con NATO into World War III," comments Chris Menahan. "Most recently, they helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant with tanks and it was leaking radiation and could lead to a nuclear holocaust wiping out all of Europe (if NATO doesn't immediately get involved in the war and start WW3)."

"They also helped Zelensky spread the lie that Russians attacked the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and were trying to trigger a meltdown."

Facebook's decision to allow its platform to be used to advocate for violence against Russians was also made despite actual real world violence being directed towards Russians.

A Russian cultural center in Paris was firebombed last weekend, while a man in Dublin also drove a truck into the gates of the Russian embassy.

https://summit.news/2022/03/14/zelensky-thanks-zuckerberg-for-helping-him-win-the-propaganda-war/

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Facebook, meta now a owned by zburger.... zuckerberger is now allowing praise of the Nazi's in Ukraine.

All of these young global leaders are acting for Schwab, to implement the fourth reich ...technological revolution.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/roscosmos-zuckerberg-dorsey-nazis-facebook-instagram-policy-change-b2033653.html
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/ygl-wef-young-global-leaders/
Kevin

https://youtu.be/Uz2gF7ydsco

It appears things are about to get interesting.

For the Deep State to be admitting this there must be something else that is about to be exposed and this is a distraction imho.


https://youtu.be/12ZmvTqrV-o

I cannot recall all the past details with  re researching the details.
Was that to do with Hillary Clintons emails ? and how it could had effected the election if it was proven she had
made up some conspiracy accusing Trump have having deallings with Russia ?

What are your thoughts on what may now happen ?

Do you believe that who ever has investigated it has now managed to certify the truth behind it.
and are suggesting that the Ukraine / Russia war is created by the USA as a form of distraction to this ?

QuoteIt appears things are about to get interesting.

For the Deep State to be admitting this there must be something else that is about to be exposed and this is a distraction imho.

His laptop shows tax fraud and money laundering with ties to his dad


They didnt want this out prior to election.

In a normal world I would assume Hunter may be in big trouble.

Not sure if there are ties to Clintons and perhaps Obama on this laptop or not.

On a quick search browse,

I think there  were two seperate issues in relations to one of Hilarys email scandles and another issue where she  may have accussed Trump of having been involved with having some concerning  connections with Russia.
So, They may not had been connected to Hunter Biden. unless there is something mentioned in any of these articles about him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

I dont think that I was aware or could not  recall  of the Hunter Biden issue  until you posted this today.
I did not even realise who he was until I just checked and found hes the son of Joe Bidden. !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden

Being in the UK I knew very little about  the Biddens...or their family, / background.

Quote from: micjer on March 18, 2022, 10:50:25 PM
His laptop shows tax fraud and money laundering with ties to his dad

They didnt want this out prior to election.

In a normal world I would assume Hunter may be in big trouble.

Not sure if there are ties to Clintons and perhaps Obama on this laptop or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsI0zshzFnI

https://youtu.be/6mWDWBDqjEI

My question is.....What has changed for this to be coming out now as being the truth?

Is the Deep State throwing the Bidens under the bus as scapegoats for what is taking place in the US economy and in the war in Ukraine?

If the NWO  or Agenda 21 plan really exist..as Alex Jones has suggested in the past...
(Although he once sugggested that the various World Leaders were selected by the NWO and put in power)
This article may suggest diferently.

But This also  may be something similar as to what could be going on .

A very Clever ploy by the leaders of the Elite (Almost like a Bond like Movie  Secret Concerning Organisation) to had taken out USAs leader  "Trump", Then to target Russian leader "Putin", and then to target  China's Leader "Xi Jinping" .

(https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022_03_16_10_42_52_Soros_Worries_Putin_Xi_Partnership-600x698.png)

Quote
This war has really nothing to do with Ukraine for this country has been used as cannon fodder to overthrow Putin – the second target in this New World Order. The first was the removal of Trump and the last will be the removal of Xi Jinping. This is a major effort to cause regime change in Russia. The sanction has been so outrageous that they are indeed an act of outright war. The strategy to remove all three has been in play and you can tell the very same tactics are used. They DEMONIZE the leader in order to defeat him and to cause people to hate him.

In the case of Putin, they have been doing that in the United States when Hillary, a Neocon herself, manufactured the entire Russia Conspiracy that Putin interfered in the 2016 election.  It was Hillary who allowed the bankers to intervene in the Russian 2000 election which backfired and Yeltsin turned to Putin once he discovered the plot.

Lindsey Graham is also a Neocon who has outright called for Russians to assassinate Putin. All we are getting now is propaganda pushing the agenda of regime change in Russia. The story being put out by Ukrainian Intelligence is that a group of Russian elites are allegedly now conspiring to overthrow Putin and "restore economic ties" with the West. They are posting this on Facebook post from the Chief Directorate of Intelligence for the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. This is clearly propaganda for if there was truly a plot, they would not be warning Putin. Instead, they are creating an imaginary plot in hope for forming one and to create discord in the politics of Russia. It is a ploy as old as history.

Facebook has changed its guidelines to allow for the posting of violence against Russia and calling for the death of Putin. Zuckerberg is also one of these Young Global Leaders of the WEF. As many are praying, his stock should keep going down for the plots that have been hatched in Facebook.

The Ukrainians are even naming Alexander Bortnikov, the Russian Director of the Federal Security Service and a member of Putin's inner circle, as a successor to the president. They are seeking the conquest of Russia but forcing the people to rise up and overthrow their government because of the sanctions. Biden even threatened China according to the White House stating that serious "implications and consequences" will follow if Beijing decides to give material aid to Russia to support its war in Ukraine. The White House claimed that Biden laid out for Mr. Xi the punishments the United States will inflict upon China and it too would pay a similarly heavy price if it supported Putin.

"He made clear what the implications and consequences would be if China provides material support to Russia as it conducts brutal attacks against Ukrainian cities and civilians," Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Friday afternoon. She declined to say how Mr. Xi responded or give details on the costs the United States has threatened to impose on Beijing, as reported in the New York Times.

China released the transcript of the phone call between Biden and Xi on Chinese state media. Xi expressed opposition to the broad sanctions the United States, European and Asian nations have imposed on Russia, warning they could trigger crises in the global economy. In this score, he is absolutely right. These very same tactics will be turned on China after they are finished with regime change in Russia. Xi referenced a Chinese saying, "Let he who tied the bell on the tiger take it off," which is an idiom that the responsibility for solving a problem should fall on the person who created it. The transcript does not indicate that Xi would play a role in ending the war.

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was a "turning point for the world," arguing that a victory for Russian President Vladimir Putin's forces would herald "a new age of intimidation."

We are looking at the beginning of World War III. In order to pull off this Great Reset, they needed to remove Trump, Putin, and Xi in hopes of then subordinating both China and Russia to the New World Order with the United Nations in control.

We live in very interesting and dangerous times. The Climate Change people have pushed that the world has only 7 years left and the Neocons have usurped this agenda to make their dreams come true.

After the Covid lockdowns, Is this whats coming next ?

BACKLASH As Media Says Let Pets Die And Don't Eat Meat, While Globalist Energy Agency Calls For Climate Lockdowns.

You'll own nothing, go nowhere, live in a pod, eat lentils and bugs, let your dog die of cancer, and enjoy it.

https://summit.news/2022/03/21/media-says-let-pets-die-eat-lentils-while-globalist-energy-agency-calls-for-climate-lockdowns/

https://youtu.be/zlXXTj1NcaQ

Very intetssting discussion of Hunter s laptop and its information that has been found in the deleted files
Also talks about world evonomic issues involving currencies

Worth a listen

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2022, 01:10:56 PM
Very intetssting discussion of Hunter s laptop and its information that has been found in the deleted files

It says that the video is private.  ???

I see that it has been taken down

https://youtu.be/N06A44a0zBI

BesogonTV Ukraine special

QuoteTo fully understand the genesis of the current situation in Ukraine, how the rise of Neo-Nazism came to be and how the far-right Russophobic ideology and groups gained power over a brotherly nation one must take a retrospect view.

World renowned filmmaker and actor, Academy award winner Nikita Mikhalkov tells and explains just that, with proven facts and archival footage to show the truth, in an emergency hour-long episode of his author's programme BesogonTV.

The Western mainstream media will never report on these facts, sweeping under the rug anything that damages the current anti-Russian narrative, hoping the audiences have no recollection of the sequence of the events. Watch to jog your memory.

https://odysee.com/@Apachechief:f/BegogonTV:e (https://odysee.com/@Apachechief:f/BegogonTV:e)

Full Putin Speech: Says Western Elites Are Responsible For Infaltion and Supply Chain Shortages
https://banned.video/watch?id=6238ba3fdfa4f00e1de6dd32 (https://banned.video/watch?id=6238ba3fdfa4f00e1de6dd32)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1udDZIByHd4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1udDZIByHd4)

Trudeau talks of unity, tells EU to stand up to Putin
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.5694208 (https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.5694208)
Vomit inducing hypocrisy warning!

Quote from: micjer on March 24, 2022, 01:14:54 AM
I see that it has been taken down

https://youtu.be/N06A44a0zBI

Could you tell us what that video is about?

The video talks about what wad found on Hunter Bidens laptop, including what was found on "deleted" files..

they found....

Disgusting Porn
Child porn
Emails that implicate many high profile folks in money laundering and tax evasion
Shows how 17 agencies (FBI, CIA, ETC) knew about this information and kept it hidden for election

Hunter is currently on trial in Delaware on tax evasion charges and MSM is not reporting

https://youtu.be/kNiL5ZivqAk

I don't think JT is very welcome in Europe to tell them how to do their business.in the Ukraine war

https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/22/8-joe-biden-scandals-inside-hunter-bidens-macbook-that-corporate-media-just-admitted-is-legit/

8 scandals on Hunter Bidens laptop that implicates Joe

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44842/russian-invaders-north-of-kyiv-are-mired-in-flooded-terrain

If you are interested in viewing what is happening in Ukraine there are many uploaded vids in this link

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44925/russian-navy-ship-that-exploded-in-ukrainian-port-seen-totally-destroyed-in-satellite-image

https://youtu.be/KGaUO72cgr8

This guy is the scary one

https://tulsi.locals.com/upost/1914082/2-images

Roman Abramovich 'suffered peeling skin, red eyes and constant crying after being poisoned.

I wonder what is going on with this in ref to Roman Abramovich the Russian Billionaire and UK Cheslsea Football club owner who had seemed Friends with Putin and had tried to negitiate past peace deals with him, who is now  claiming he has been poisioned in which they believe its from a Russian Source as has occurred in the UK in the Past to two other UK based  Russians  on at least two other occasions .

QuoteThe Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich was poisoned along with Ukrainian negotiators, it has been claimed.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the Vladimir Putin ally and Chelsea FC owner was hit by symptoms after a suspected poisoning at a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month.

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Abramovich, and two senior Ukrainian officials, are said to have developed peeling skin on their faces and hands, red eyes, and constant and painful tearing, the paper reported.

Quoting 'people familiar with the matter', it added that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who has met with Abramovich, was not been affected.

The lives of the Chelsea owner – who has been sanctioned by the UK government – and two male peace negotiators are not thought to be in danger from the apparent poisoning, blamed on an 'unidentified chemical weapon'.

The incident is likely to raise serious safety questions about the continuation of peace talks between Russia and Ukraine and President Zelensky's involvement.

Experts believe the suspected attack was intended to scare its victims, rather than cause life-threatening damage.

Widespread reports have previously suggested Russian forces are attempting to assassinate Zelensky, but it is unclear who the target of the alleged poisoning was.

Roman Abramovich's peacemaker flights as he avoids sanctions Metro Graphics

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Roman Abramovich's recent flights

Abramovich has previously passed a handwritten note from Zelensky to Putin and is widely believed to be acting as a go-between for the two leaders.

Russia has been widely blamed for a series of poisonings around the world, including a Novichok incident in Salisbury, the death of Putin critic Alexander Litvinenko and near fatal poisoning of opposition figure Alexei Navalny.

The investigative media group Bellingcat said the latest incident took place overnight from March 3 to 4, with three people experiencing 'symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons', including the Russian oligarch turned negotiator Abramovich.

That was ten days before he was spotted waiting for a private jet at an Israeli airport on Monday, March 14.

'Abramovich, along with another Russian entrepreneur, had taken part in the negotiations alongside Ukraine's MP Rustem Umerov', Bellingcat tweeted.
Sanctioned Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich sits in a VIP lounge before a jet linked to him took off for Istanbul from Ben Gurion international airport in Lod near Tel Aviv, Israel, March 14, 2022.
Abramovich at an Israeli airport on March 14 – ten days after the incident (Picture: Reuters)

The site said the three men had only consumed water and chocolate – while another man who ate and drank the same things did not experience symptoms.

It continued: 'The negotiation round on the afternoon of 3 March took place on Ukrainian territory, and lasted until about 10 pm.

'Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later that night and felt initial symptoms – including eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in the eyes – later that night.

'The symptoms did not abate until the morning.'

President Zelensky's spokesman said he had no information about any suspected poisoning, according to the WSJ.
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It cited western experts suggesting it was difficult to confirm if the symptoms were caused by a chemical or biological agent or by an electromagnetic-radiation attack.

Bellingcat claimed the most likely cause of the symptoms was an 'international poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon', adding that 'microwave irradiation' was another possible theory.

It cited two chemical weapons experts and a doctor suggesting the symptoms were 'most consistent with variants of porphyrin, organophosphates, or bicyclic substances'.

'The experts said the dosage and type of toxin used was likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage, and most likely was intended to scare the victims as opposed to cause permanent damage', Bellingcat tweeted.

A person familiar with the matter told Reuters that Abramovich had not allowed it to stop him working.

The Kremlin has said the oligarch played an early role in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine but that the process was now in the hands of the two sides' negotiating teams.
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/28/russia-ukraine-war-roman-abramovich-poisoned-along-with-ukrainian-negotiators-16359662/#:~:text=The%20Russian%20oligarch%20Roman%20Abramovich%20was%20poisoned%20along,at%20a%20meeting%20in%20Kyiv%20earlier%20this%20month.

On the News earlier it is said that Abramovich's mother is Ukraine.. and as I mentioned he was seen as if he
had been friend or connected to Putin.

So it maybe he was trying to negotiate some sort of peace talk.

Its also suggested that he may have only been mildly poisioned as a Warning to Back off !

as they said if he would have been fully poisoned, he would have ended up deseased !
This is another related article with some other opinions.

Roman Abramovich 'was the TARGET of peace-talk "chocolate poisoning" that left him temporarily blind and shedding skin

Attack was 'a warning not to betray the Kremlin', investigator behind shocking revelation claims
Bellingcat investigator Christo Grozev said Abramovich was the poison target
He said none of the three affected were intended to die from low dosage attack
The chemical weapons hit serves as a warning to antiwar dissent, he added

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The lead investigator who exposed the poisoning of Roman Abramovich has said the chemical attack was a warning to the billionaire and others not to betray the Kremlin.

Christo Grozev, lead Russia investigator for the investigative news outlet Bellingcat, said the billionaire oligarch was not supposed to die in the poisoning which also affected two Ukrainian negotiators.

He told Times Radio: 'The dosage was not high enough to kill any of the three, the most likely target would have been Abramovich. And it kind of makes sense.

'I mean, he volunteered to play... this role of (an) honest broker, but other oligarchs had... declared certain independence from the Kremlin position and criticise(d) the war.

'So it could well be seen as a warning sign to them to not join the ranks of those who dissent, and to not be too much of an honest broker.'

Roman Abramovich was the target of a poisoning earlier this month, investigators believe. Pictured: Abramovich sits in a VIP lounge before a jet linked to him took off for Istanbul from Ben Gurion international airport in Lod near Tel Aviv, Israel, on March 14

Roman Abramovich was the target of a poisoning earlier this month, investigators believe. Pictured: Abramovich sits in a VIP lounge before a jet linked to him took off for Istanbul from Ben Gurion international airport in Lod near Tel Aviv, Israel, on March 14

Christo Grozev (pictured), lead Russia investigator for the investigative news outlet Bellingcat, said the billionaire oligarch was not supposed to die in the poisoning

Christo Grozev (pictured), lead Russia investigator for the investigative news outlet Bellingcat, said the billionaire oligarch was not supposed to die in the poisoning

A source close to Volodymyr Zelensky told The Financial Times: 'People became totally blind... the next day.

'We did not identify the substance. No idea who was behind [the attack] but it looks like Roman was the main target.'

Another said it was 'definitely not Novichok', adding: 'They couldn't work out who did it - the Ukrainians or the Russians.'

The Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) said the poisoning attempt during peace talks in Kyiv on March 3 was 'very concerning'.

It said the UK will 'continue to assist' by implementing tough sanctions on Russian President Vladimir Putin's regime as well as by providing defensive and humanitarian support to put Ukraine 'in the strongest possible negotiating position'.

A representative for Abramovich confirmed yesterday the oligarch had suffered the reported symptoms after eating chocolate and drinking water but refused to give any further details.

The Chelsea owner as well as two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that included red eyes, painful streaming eyes as well as peeling skin on their faces and hands.

Abramovich, who accepted a Ukrainian request to help negotiate an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, also 'went blind for several hours' and was treated at a hospital in Turkey, a source told The Guardian.

Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov (pictured) had been taking part in the negotiations, with the talks lasting until about 10 pm, investigative news site Bellingcat said

Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov (pictured) had been taking part in the negotiations, with the talks lasting until about 10 pm, investigative news site Bellingcat said

Sources told the PA news agency Mr Abramovich had now recovered and was continuing to try to help with the negotiations.

It is understood the oligarch had been involved in talks about securing humanitarian corridors to allow Ukrainians to leave as well as bringing other countries to the negotiating table.

The WSJ reported it was believed the suspected attack was orchestrated by hardliners in Russia who wanted to sabotage the talks.

Asked about the allegations on BBC Newsnight, Sergiy Petukhov, the former deputy minister of justice of Ukraine, said: 'It's really hard to make any conclusions out of (the) information that we have.

'Remember previously one of the Ukrainian negotiators was murdered in Kyiv under unknown circumstances.'

He said the situation makes 'the atmosphere of the negotiations very tense and nervous, definitely not contributing to success'.

'I think we will have to wait until further information comes out to be able to reach a conclusion (on) whether it was an intentional attack on the negotiation process or something else that just happened,' he added.

Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov had been taking part in the negotiations, with the talks lasting until about 10pm according to Bellingcat.

When Roman Abramovich was pictured looking grey, thin and anxious in an Israeli airport a fortnight ago, it was assumed he was suffering in his new status as a global pariah

When Roman Abramovich was pictured looking grey, thin and anxious in an Israeli airport a fortnight ago, it was assumed he was suffering in his new status as a global pariah

The investigative news site said it had known about the suspected poisoning for some time but chose not to publicise the information 'due to concern about the safety of the victims'.

The revelation comes just days after Abramovich reportedly travelled to Poland to act as a negotiator between Putin and US President Joe Biden, who visited the Polish town of Rzeszow mere miles from the Ukrainian border last week.

Asked about the suspected poisoning, Ukrainian negotiator Mykhailo Podolyak only said: 'There is a lot of speculation, various conspiracy theories'. 

Umerov meanwhile urged people not to trust 'unverified information'.

The three members of the delegation left the talks on 3 March to an apartment in Kyiv later that night.

Whilst there, they were all suffering from eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in their eyes until the next morning. The three men had consumed only chocolate and water in the hours before the symptoms appeared.

A fourth member of the team who also consumed the same food and water did not experience symptoms.

The next day - on March 4 - Abramovich, Umerov and the other negotiator drove from Kyiv to the Ukrainian city of Lviv whilst on their way to Poland, still experiencing symptoms.

They then moved on to Istanbul, where they are believed to have received treatment before continuing negotiations.

Chemical weapons specialists and a Bellingcat investigator carried out examinations of the three men and concluded the symptoms are 'most likely the result of intentional poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon'.   

The symptoms experienced by Abramovich and the two other negotiators subsided by the end of the following week.

The Kremlin acknowledged for the first time last week that Abramovich was officially involved in early peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, but spokesman Dmitry Peskov insisted on Thursday the oligarch was no longer part of the negotiation team.

'He did take part at the initial stage,' Peskov said Thursday. 'Now the negotiations are between the two teams, the Russians and Ukrainians.'

Chemical weapons experts said the dosage and type of toxic used in the March 3 attack was 'likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage' and instead intended 'to scare the victims as opposed to cause permanent damage'.

Sources told WSJ they blamed the suspected poisoning attack on hard-liners in Moscow who wanted to ruin talks to end the war. The victims meanwhile said they were not aware of who would have an interest in the attack. 

Roman Abramovich (left) and producer Alexander Rodnyanski (right) attend a RuArts Foundation cocktail party in Sochi, Russia, in 2017

Roman Abramovich (left) and producer Alexander Rodnyanski (right) attend a RuArts Foundation cocktail party in Sochi, Russia, in 2017

Lord Ricketts: Russia have 'morbid fascination' with poisonings

What is Bellingcat?

Bellingcat is an investigative journalism site ran by British journalist and blogger Elliot Higgins.

Higgins rose to prominence for his investigations of the Syrian Civil War in 2012 and 2013, in which he used open-source intelligence and geo-location to prove the Syrian regime's use of chemical and cluster weapons.

Off the back of his success, he launched Bellingcat in 2014, and along with a small group of fellow journalists and volunteers discovered that the MH17 disaster, which claimed the lives of 298 civilians, was caused by a Russian missile.

Higgins continued to fund Bellingcat's investigations with crowdfunding via Kickstarter, and the organisation began to expand overseas and take on more investigations.

The organisation now has roughly 20 full time staff and dozens of contributors around the world, and is funded entirely by crowdfunding, grants and revenue generated via its training programmes.

Bellingcat specialises in using open-source intelligence (OSINT) and social media research to fact-check and verify information, and provides training to journalists looking to develop their research skills. 

Higgins described Bellingcat as 'citizen investigative journalists using open source information to investigate, collaborate, and report on worldwide issues that are being under-reported and ignored'.

The Chelsea FC owner has reportedly been jetting between Istanbul, Moscow and Kyiv to relay messages between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky.

But when handed a note from the Ukrainian president outlining peace terms, the Russian despot reportedly erupted with fury.

Abramovich has been trying to rescue his reputation after being slapped with sanctions by the UK and EU over his closeness to Putin.

His assets have been frozen across Britain and the Continent and he started a fire sale of London property as well as Chelsea football club.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/23/19/55527253-10644711-Abramovich_s_luxury_lifestyle_is_being_squeezed_by_EU_and_UK_san-a-1_1648062738798.jpg)

But his yachts and jets, which are worth hundreds of millions of pounds, remain out of bounds as they dodge sanctioned waters and airspace.

Meanwhile Zelensky reportedly pleaded with President Joe Biden for the US to hold off bringing measures against the oligarch due to his role in negotiations.   

Abramovich left Ataturk airport in Istanbul on a private Hawker 800XP jet last Wednesday, heaving across the Black Sea towards Sochi.

Its flight tracker went dark near the city of Mineralnye Vody, with the plane later popping up leaving Vnukovo airport in Moscow and returning to the Turkish capital.

The oligarch had flown in to meet Putin and hand him a handwritten note by Zelensky outlining Ukraine's peace terms position.

According to the Times, the Russian president said to the oligarch: 'Tell him I will thrash them.'

He returned to Istanbul and linked up with Ukrainian politician Rustem Umerov, who is said to be acting as Kyiv's negotiator.

They met at five-star hotels in the Turkish capital, having been set up by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's spokesman Ibrahim Kalin.

Abramovich and Umerov have visited the Ukrainian President in war-torn Kyiv after travelling on private jets routed through Warsaw, Poland.

The businessman has been flying on one owned by a Turkish firm due to his being under EU sanctions.

He is one of at least 20 oligarchs in Turkey as they toe the line between Putin and Western restrictions.

He has two of his yachts moored in Bodrum on the south west coast despite the presence of Ukrainian protesters.

Turkey has not sanctioned Abramovich and appears to have allowed him to help in the negotiations surrounding the war.

Erdogan hopes Russia and Ukraine can agree ceasefire in peace talks

Abramovich is pictured left with Putin at a meeting with top businessman in Sochi in 2016
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Abramovich is pictured left with Putin at a meeting with top businessman in Sochi in 2016

Investigative journalist: Poisoning could be a warning for Abramovich

Abramovich's luxury lifestyle is being squeezed by EU and UK sanctions - and now the US has moved to prevent his Gulfstream plane from making international flights

Abramovich's luxury lifestyle is being squeezed by EU and UK sanctions - and now the US has moved to prevent his Gulfstream plane from making international flights

Ukrainian minister: Do not eat or drink when negotiating with Russia

Insiders said he was determined to draw the war to an end after seeing the horrors in Ukraine, where his mother Irina was born.

Meanwhile another set of negotiations in Turkey were being held between the Russian and Ukrainian foreign ministers.

Sergey Lavrov and Dmytro Kuleba met in Antalya on March 10, with Turkey's foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu overseeing the chat that ultimately failed.

He also met with ex-German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder to try to broker peace with Putin earlier this month.

They are believed to have met at one of the Russian capital's luxury hotels where the former premier was staying, according to multiple sources.

The billionaire oligarch entered and left via a side door to avoid being spotted, according to German newspaper Bild.

The meeting was believed to have been in the same suite where Schröder's wife, Soyeon Schröder-Kim, prayed for peace with the Kremlin on Instagram.

The talks lasted 'several hours'  and later in the evening Schröder is said to have met with Putin at the Kremlin.

No further details were released but Reuters said an insider told them the oligarch wanted to find a way to stop the conflict.

Abramovich who is a Russian–Portuguese–Israeli billionaire, was close to the Kremlin during the reign of Boris Yeltsin.

He is said to have been the first person to recommend Putin to Yeltsin as his replacement.

Russian President Vladimir Putin (R) speaks as billionaire and businessman Roman Abramovich (L) looks on during a meeting in 2016

Russian President Vladimir Putin (R) speaks as billionaire and businessman Roman Abramovich (L) looks on during a meeting in 2016

During Putin's time in power, Abramovich was the governor of the Chukchi Autonomous Okrug for eight years.

After Russia's attack on Ukraine, the UK imposed sanctions on Abramovich, who has been the owner of Chelsea for almost 20 years since buying the club in 2004.

The west London team is now for sale and is currently under the hammer in a bidding process.

Abramovich has pledged to write off Chelsea's £1.5billion debt and the bidding frenzy for the club could see the eventual deal hit £3billion.

The Russian billionaire made his fortune buying up discounted state assets after the collapse of the Soviet Union and owns billions of pounds pf assets in the UK.

In the past month he has been hit by a string of sanctions in the UK and EU due to his close relationship with Putin, and scrambled to divest before the asset freeze hit.

It comes as Boris Johnson pledged to 'co-ordinate closely' with the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky in the days ahead, reiterating the UK's commitment to strengthening economic pressure on Moscow.

Meanwhile, British defence intelligence analysts warned more than 1,000 Russian mercenaries are expected to deploy to eastern Ukraine to undertake combat operations.

In an intelligence update on Twitter, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) said Russia had 'highly likely been forced to reprioritise' personnel from the paramilitary Wagner Group, at the expense of operations in Africa and Syria, 'due to heavy losses and a largely stalled invasion'.

The Wagner Group, seen as Mr Putin's private army, was among the latest tranche of entities sanctioned by the UK Government over the Russian invasion last week.

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said Mr Putin's forces were abducting Ukrainian politicians, activists and journalists as Russia failed to meet its military objectives.

She condemned the 'abhorrent tactic' following work by Ukrainian human rights group ZMINA, which claimed to have identified dozens of individuals who had been abducted, with thousands more deported to Russia.

Ms Truss said Mr Putin was resorting to 'desperate measures'.

'Putin continues to use abhorrent tactics against the Ukrainian people, including abducting innocent civilians,' she said.

'He is not achieving his objectives and is resorting to desperate measures. Putin must fail in Ukraine.'

Ms Truss, in a statement to the House of Commons, later told MPs: 'We know that Putin is not serious about talks, he is still wantonly bombing innocent citizens across Ukraine and that is why we need to do more to ensure that he loses and we force him to think again.

'We must not just stop Putin in Ukraine but we must also look to the long term. We need to ensure that any future talks don't end up selling Ukraine out or repeating the mistakes of the past.'

In their call on Monday, No 10 said Mr Zelensky provided Mr Johnson with an update on negotiations, adding that 'the two leaders agreed to co-ordinate closely in the days ahead'.

The Ukrainian president has signalled he is prepared to offer a series of concessions to Russia to end the fighting.

Ukraine could declare neutrality and offer guarantees about its non-nuclear status as part of a peace deal, Mr Zelensky suggested, but he stressed the desire to ensure the country's 'territorial integrity'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10662651/Roman-Abramovich-TARGET-chocolate-poisoning-warning-not-betray-Kremlin.html

Two articles from Martin Armstrong,

this 1st one could be rather concerning
IF this was happen GOD Help Us !

The Doomsday Jet .

QuoteThe people surrounding Putin are FAR MORE aggressive than Putin – that is the truth! Putin has his own Neocons and they are pushing for a nuclear attack. They may just nuke Kyiv and hope the West backs down if Putin was removed. Or they go all-in and use supersonic missiles and take out NYC, Washington, Denver, Chicago, and LA simultaneously. If they did that without warning, they could even prevent a Doomsday Jet from taking off. This is what the Pentagon is arguing against   

Quote

The Neocons have accomplished their objective. They dethroned Trump and installed the senile president who will go down in history as the President that began World War III. His name will be remembered in infamy because it is always the president who history remembers – not the dark figures behind the curtain prodding him on every action and dragging him around by his diapers. They know the risks that have now been unleashed upon the world and the clash with the Pentagon is the only this in their way. Biden's trip to Warsaw to convince the Polish people to surrender their lives for the dreams of the American Neocons was interestingly marked by Biden flying on the "Doomsday" jet. At the same time, Biden tells the American people there is no risk of nuclear war. Their actions say differently.

There are four Doomsday Jets in the US's fleet. One is with the Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin as part of his boss's delegation meeting with NATO and European leaders. These jets are supposed to be "highly survivable" in the case of a nuclear attack and are to be "mobile Pentagons" from which they can direct nuclear war. All the American nuclear weapons can be controlled from anywhere in the world from one of these Doomsday Jets and that even includes in the middle of a nuclear attack.

Obviously, they know that pushing Russia to the brink may lead to nuclear war. They stupidly think removing Putin will somehow cause Russia to collapse into the arms of the West. NEVER do these people ever think beyond their nose. They removed Saddam and created ISIS. They armed the Taliban to defend against Russia and then they turned it against the Great Satin. It was the US feeding arms to the Rebels to take down Libya and Syria which backfired and that involved Hillary.

The people surrounding Putin are FAR MORE aggressive than Putin – that is the truth! Putin has his own Neocons and they are pushing for a nuclear attack. They may just nuke Kyiv and hope the West backs down if Putin was removed. Or they go all-in and use supersonic missiles and take out NYC, Washington, Denver, Chicago, and LA simultaneously. If they did that without warning, they could even prevent a Doomsday Jet from taking off. This is what the Pentagon is arguing against.

They would not be sending a Doomsday Jet to Europe if they did not know that Nuclear War is now possible. Perhaps the REGIME CHANGE is seriously needed right here at home dragging these Neocons out by their necks to face the public in the open.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/the-doomsday-jet/

Do you Prefer Lies or the Truth?

QuoteQUESTION: You seem to be anti-American. Are you on the right side of history?

DL

ANSWER: Over 50,000 Americans died in vain for the Neocons and their lies in Vietnam when Communism was collapsing all by itself. I suppose you are the type that is your best friend is having sex with your partner, you prefer not to know because it would mean you have to accept the fact that you are a fool. It gives me no pleasure whatsoever to have to report what is really going on. For whatever reason, I have been put on this earth in a rather unique position where whatever the crisis has been, somehow I know all the players.

Early on, my model seemed to attract the rich and the politically powerful from around the world. I was even in Australia and the India Guru who started the whole TM movement sent a private jet and two chaps who tried to hypnotize me to get on the plane. For a stroke of fate, I had a friend who taught me the tricks of how to "influence" people for your desires as a defense.

You speak to them in a conversation and you ever so gradually keep lowering your voice. Next thing you know, you have them hypnotized. In speaking with these two professionals they were talking about controlling the world and they thought with my model this would be their missing piece and wanted me to get on this plane for a meeting in India. Fortunately, thanks to the training I had from a friend that at the time seemed far-fetched, I caught myself starting to go under and pulled out and accused them of this was how they induced so many followers. They said they were only trying to "relax" me. I threw them out.

That is only one such incident. I have had people try everything from sending in women to trying to install a plant on my staff. I have turned down offers of piles of money and always the objective has been the same. I have been tortured, imprisoned, but I was born with the strength to endure. I have often asked myself – WHY?

They make you think being against Putin is patriotic. They are selling WORLD WAR III to you and you will cheer being their pawn thinking you will sacrifice your life or someone else's child typically, so you can cheer the death and carnage on TV.  Sorry to tell you, this time it will not be on TV.

Every single war has begun on lies. Just in my lifetime, Vietnam was all started because the Neocons simply wanted to defeat communism. The Vietnamese never fired upon US ships and President Johnson lied to the American public and knew it. The Iraq invasion was all BS and far worse than Putin going into Ukraine. American tactics are it destroy everything and then hand them $1 trillion to rebuild. Putin could do the same, but he has not so they spin the story he is losing for this should have been over in days. That is ONLY true if he wanted to conquer Ukraine which he has said from the outset was not his objective.

The United States has ZERO national security at stake in Ukraine any more than we had in Vietnam or Iraq. The Neocons just like war. You are a total fool to think you are going to wage war for God and your Country. I lost most of my high school friends who were denied life simply so the Neocons could wage their disputes. They took out Kennedy and they removed Trump from office. In both cases, they were again engaging in their endless war games.

So wrap yourself in the flag when you sleep at night thinking you are defending America when in fact you are just a pawn to be sacrificed in the real-world chess game for power and vengeance. This will not end well. Remember one thing – EVERY empire, nation, and city-state also dies an unexpected death. None has ever survived.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/geopolitical/do-you-prefer-lies-or-the-truth/

Quote from: astr0144 on March 29, 2022, 08:10:25 PM
The people surrounding Putin are FAR MORE aggressive than Putin – that is the truth! Putin has his own Neocons and they are pushing for a nuclear attack. They may just nuke Kyiv and hope the West backs down if Putin was removed. Or they go all-in and use supersonic missiles and take out NYC, Washington, Denver, Chicago, and LA simultaneously. If they did that without warning, they could even prevent a Doomsday Jet from taking off. This is what the Pentagon is arguing against

I doubt they will do it, the prevailing winds move from West to East, taking most of the fallout to Russia.

Using the Russian forces' "Z" symbol could lead to prosecution in two German states (//http://)

QuoteThe usage of the Russian forces' symbol "Z" can lead to prosecution in two German states, officials have said.

"Whosoever is publicly expressing their consent to the war of aggression of Russian President Putin must expect criminal prosecution," Boris Pistorius, the interior minister of the state of Lower Saxony, said in a news release.

Nothing like a little censorship to protect Democracy...

Good to hear someone talking common sense.
From hobbit land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJe5l4SGi8g

Kevin

This is on the right thread, as He discusses war, biological war, and Putin is resisting such on His countries doorstep.

Trump calls on Putin to release damaging information on Hunter Biden

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/trump-calls-on-putin-to-release-damaging-information-on-hunter-biden/ar-AAVEU7a?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3c5a25d7c011448c9c48df5e97eec177

Washington — Former President Donald Trump pushed Russian President Vladimir Putin to release information about Hunter Biden, President Biden's son and his alleged business dealings with oligarchs in Eastern Europe in a new interview published Tuesday.

Trump made the remark in an interview with the "Just the News" television show on Real America's Voice, during which he cited a 2020 report from Republicans on two Senate panels that investigated allegations of corruption against Mr. Biden and Hunter Biden's business dealings in Ukraine.

Senate Republicans claimed that in 2014, an investment firm co-founded by Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, whose late husband Yury Luzhkov was the former mayor of Moscow.

"As long as Putin now is not exactly a fan of our country, let him explain ... why did the mayor of Moscow's wife give the Bidens, both of them, $3.5 million? That's a lot of money. She gave them $3.5 million," Trump said in the interview from his South Florida property, Mar-a-Lago. "So, now I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/federal-investigation-of-hunter-biden-heats-up/ar-AAVDLLx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3c5a25d7c011448c9c48df5e97eec177

Federal investigation of Hunter Biden heats up


Ukraine business dealings
Biden's involvement in Ukraine has been a major source of his legal and political issues. He served on the board of Burisma, paid as much as $50,000 a month, from 2014 to 2019, according to a Republican-led Senate report on Biden's business activities released in 2020. That partly overlaps with a period during which his father was vice president and tapped by then-President Barack Obama to handle Ukraine issues. The overlap raised concerns about a conflict of interest among some Obama administration officials at the time.

Joe Biden has said his son's work in Ukraine had no influence on his decisions at the time, and State Department critics of Hunter Biden's Ukraine ties say they were never influenced improperly, according to transcripts of Senate testimony.

Federal prosecutors from Justice headquarters in Washington and in Delaware have focused at least in part on whether a lobbying firm working with Burisma called Blue Star Strategies approached US government officials in an attempt to burnish the Ukrainian firm's reputation after State Department officials criticized the oligarch who founded it.

The firm's founders have testified to Congress previously that they were merely interested in understanding the US government's views of the foreign company.

The Justice Department requires lobbyists and public relations firms working on behalf of foreign entities to disclose their ties, and in recent years national security investigators expanded the Department's initiatives to prosecute groups and people who don't publicly disclose their international connections.

Curious what is on Hunter's laptop?

Need to watch this video of the guy that turned it over to authorities after looking through the contents.

https://rumble.com/vycyay-bombshell-info-jack-maxey-on-hunter-bidens-laptop.html

Hunter Biden Bio Firm Partnered With Ukrainian Researchers 'Isolating Deadly Pathogens' Using Funds From Obama's Defense Department

QuoteThe revelation surrounding President Joe Biden's son's financial involvement with Ukrainian biological laboratories experimenting with pathogens, animals, and anthrax follows The National Pulse unearthing Metabiota's ties to EcoHealth Alliance, a key entity in the origins of COVID-19 and cover-up efforts.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/03/25/hunter-biden-bio-firm-partnered-with-ukrainian-researchers-isolating-deadly-pathogens-using-funds-from-obamas-defense-department/#more-264297 (https://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/03/25/hunter-biden-bio-firm-partnered-with-ukrainian-researchers-isolating-deadly-pathogens-using-funds-from-obamas-defense-department/#more-264297)

EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden DID help secure millions in funding for US contractor in Ukraine specializing in deadly pathogen research, laptop emails reveal, raising more questions about the disgraced son of then vice president

QuoteMoscow's claim that Hunter Biden helped finance a US military 'bioweapons' research program in Ukraine is at least partially true, according to new emails obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com.

The commander of the Russian Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Forces, claimed there was a 'scheme of interaction between US government agencies and Ukrainian biological objects' and pointed to the 'financing of such activities by structures close to the current US leadership, in particular the investment fund Rosemont Seneca, which is headed by Hunter Biden.'

Intelligence experts say the Russian military leader's allegations were a brazen propaganda ploy to justify president Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine and sow discord in the US.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html)

Biden refuses to rule out first-strike use of US nuclear weapons under 'extreme circumstances' in dramatic reversal of his campaign vow after Putin's invasion of Ukraine

QuotePresident Joe Biden is abandoning a campaign vow to alter longstanding US nuclear doctrine, and will instead embrace existing policy that reserves America's right to use nukes in a first-strike scenario, according to multiple reports.

As Russian forces continue their bloody assault on Ukraine, Biden is under pressure from NATO allies not to abandon the right to use nuclear weapons to deter conventional attacks.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10654341/Biden-refuses-rule-strike-use-nuclear-weapons-extreme-circumstances.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10654341/Biden-refuses-rule-strike-use-nuclear-weapons-extreme-circumstances.html)

What is Biden willing to do to avoid going to prison is the scary thing.

Got to be feeling the heat.   if only there were people in the USA that were willing to proceed in bringing the evil cabal to justice.

CIA FBI Justice department all seem to bought off.

I'm back ing the USSR boy.
The Ukraine girls leave the west behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS5_EQgbuLc

Kevin

Gas taps turned off tomorrow unless You pay in rubbles.
https://www.energylivenews.com/2022/03/31/vladimir-putin-threatens-to-turn-the-tap-off-tomorrow/

The west has confiscated bank accounts, taken Yachts and properties, supplied massive amounts of weapons against Russia.

They do not want to play games with this man.

Kevin

QuoteThey do not want to play games with this man.

On the contrary they have been doing nothing but playing games with him. They are playing Hungry Hippos while he is playing Chess.

Sanctions are only hurting the west countries.

Putin has lots of customers for his oil, NG, grain etc.

The Rouble has rebounded in its value  indicating a strong economy

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/45043/ukraine-situation-report-kyiv-region-now-fully-in-government-control-according-to-defense-official

Looking at the latest pics from Ukraine, makes me wonder WHY???

What is the purpose of blowing up apartment buildings, stealing contents and then leaving.....🤬

Today, a co-worker told what happened with an Ukrainian man to whom she has been renting a room for several months.

The Ukrainian man, worried with this whole situation, decided to go to Ukraine to see if his mother and his two daughters were OK, and after several complications (finding the best place to cross the border, getting an aeroplane ticket, getting a negative CoViD-19 test 48 hours before departure, etc.) he finally left for Ukraine on Friday.
Today, my co-worker said that he was back on Sunday, because any man that enters Ukraine is taken to be part of the military, without the possibility of seeing his family. Entering without the authorities knowing may result in being killed by the Russian army. His only solution was to return as fast as possible, and he could only do it because he took some 4000 Euros in cash with him.
One thing he said was that the Polish refugee camps we see on TV are a lie, as the one he saw close to the border was full of people without food or water and only with a small tent for the camp staff.
My coworker said that when he came back he was all bruised, but I don't know what happened to him, there was no time for more explanations.

PS: his family is OK.

US MARINE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER TELLS FUELLMICH RUSSIA'S ALREADY BEATEN NATO & THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Scott Ritter - Former UN Weapons Inspector / US Marine Corp Intelligence Officer interviewed by the Coronavirus Investigative Committee with discussions around the current state of affairs in the Ukrainian / Russian conflict.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RnpZndYTvVJe/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/RnpZndYTvVJe/)

Twitter bans ex-UN weapons inspector over Ukraine

QuoteTwitter "permanently suspended" the retired US Marine Corps officer Scott Ritter on Wednesday, accusing him of engaging in prohibited behavior by questioning the claims of Ukrainian authorities that Russian soldiers had massacred civilians in Bucha near Kiev. Ritter is best known as the former UN weapons inspector who doubted US claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, invoked by Washington as a pretext for the 2003 invasion.

"So apparently I've been suspended from Twitter for the crime of challenging the orthodox narrative of the so-called Bucha massacre,"Ritter said on his Telegram channel, sharing a screenshot of the message he received from the Big Tech platform.

"I've appealed, so who knows what the future will bring," Ritter said, adding that "Freedom of speech in America today is an endangered concept."

According to the screenshot, Twitter's censors had decided that Ritter violated their rules against "harassment and abuse" by saying the Ukrainian police had committed crimes against humanity in Bucha, and were trying to shift blame onto Russia with US help.

Ritter's tweet did not contain calls for abuse or harassment, or wish physical harm on anyone, Shadowproof journalist Kevin Gosztola pointed out, arguing that his ban "shows how Twitter Rules can be twisted to silence US foreign policy critics."

The rules were recently updated to include "denying mass casualty events took place," Gosztola noted, but he said Ritter hadn't done that, either.

In an op-ed published by RT on Monday, Ritter had examined the Ukrainian allegations that the withdrawing Russian troops had massacred civilians on their way out of Bucha, pointing out a number of inconsistencies and "red flags" with them and putting them in the context of the propaganda war raging parallel to the ongoing military conflict.

Grayzone's Aaron Mate also pointed out that there was nothing that fit the definition of "targeted harassment" in Ritter's flagged tweet, and asked Twitter to "please undo" the ban.

"You're suspending a decorated Marine Corps veteran and former chief UN weapons inspector who bravely warned the world about the Bush [administration's] Iraq WMD lies. Silencing voices of dissent will make your platform un-usable," Mate tweeted.

Ritter is a retired US Marine who had inspected Soviet weapons under the now-defunct INF treaty, worked as the chief UN weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, and served on the staff of General Norman Schwarzkopf during the first Gulf War.

His "suspension" comes just days after Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk took a seat on Twitter's board of directors, having become the platform's largest single individual shareholder on hints that he would dial back its censorship.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/twitter-bans-ex-un-weapons-inspector-over-ukraine/ (https://www.infowars.com/posts/twitter-bans-ex-un-weapons-inspector-over-ukraine/)

https://www.newsweek.com/scott-ritters-twitter-reinstated-after-suspension-over-ukraine-remarks-1695834

Unbanned....

Wonder if Elon had anything to do with this

While looking for something completely different, I got to a page with lots of ads, and one of them was for the "International Legion of Defence Of Ukraine".

I clicked it and got to a page that asks people with combat or weapons knowledge to join the International Legion of Defence Of Ukraine in the fight against the Russian forces.

They have a list of countries with volunteers fighting in the International Legion of Defence Of Ukraine:
Denmark
Israel
Poland
Latvia
Croatia
UK
Netherlands
Canada

As usual, the site has a cookie selection section, and I clicked the "Cookie policy" link to see what it said.
In it they have a list of the cookies they use, and while most are common cookies, the "Marketing cookies" are something a little out of place for a site like this (or maybe not, it depends on their intentios).

Quote

Name	Purpose	Expiry
_fbp	Used by Facebook to deliver a series of advertisement products such as real time bidding from third party advertisers.	3 months
_gcl_au	Used by Google AdSense for experimenting with advertisement efficiency across websites using their services.	3 months
fr	Used by Facebook to deliver a series of advertisement products such as real time bidding from third party advertisers.	3 months
VISITOR_INFO1_LIVE (USA)	Tries to estimate the users' bandwidth on pages with tegrated Youtube videos.	179 days
YSC (USA)	Registers unique ID to keep statistics of what videos from Youtube the user has seen .	Session

I find the last one particularly interesting, as it will register which YouTube videos the user has seen. It's only a session cookie (which means it will be deleted when the browser is closed), but most people today open several tabs on one browser, so the cookie will probably be active when the user thinks it's not.

Quote from: micjer on April 08, 2022, 12:02:29 AM
Wonder if Elon had anything to do with this

I saw a site yesterday saying that upper management does not make those decisions, but I add that they sure may influence them.

Sinking of the Moskvas russian battleship.

Discussion is how many crew members were killed.
Secrets of combat.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-shows-survivors-moskva-ukraine

Martin Armstrong suggests that Macron who won the French Election this weekend could have an effect for him
to  want to create  a European army and he really believes that the EU can defeat Russia which could lead to WW3.

Macron Won – One Giant Step toward World War III

QuoteOf course, Macron won amid allegations of vote tampering. If a ballot was torn in any way, which seems to have been those of Le Pen, they were just discarded. There was NO POSSIBLE WAY that the EU would have allowed Le Pen to win for she would have upset the EU and gone against this madness of creating a war with Russia to cover up the collapse in the monetary system thanks to 8+ years of negative interest rates.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/macron-won-one-giant-step-toward-world-war-iii/



The French Elections This Weekend & Fate of the World

QuoteThe French election this weekend really does hold the fate of the world in balance. The victory of Macron will set the fate of Europe on its course with destiny and the end of the West as we know it. Macron wants a European army and he really believes that the EU can defeat Russia. A Macron victory will indeed set Europe on course for war and 2023 will not look very bright. From a realistic model projection, Le Pen should win, but from a practical perspective, Macron will win because Europe must simply face its destiny.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-french-elections-this-weekend-fate-of-the-world/

Any decision about an EU army (that has been talked for some years) will need more than one country's intentions.
From what I have seen, it's even possible that it needs unanimity to be created, so any country can stop it from being created.

I would had thought what you say ArMaP should be the case.

and I hope what you say proves correct, ie that other Countries would oppose it or at least not to suggest that
such an army should be soon created to challenge Russia in the present Conflict.

I do not know why Martin Armstrong suggest that Macron or France could have such an effect to create an European Army in acting as the EU.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 25, 2022, 03:03:40 PM
Any decision about an EU army (that has been talked for some years) will need more than one country's intentions.
From what I have seen, it's even possible that it needs unanimity to be created, so any country can stop it from being created.

Quote from: astr0144 on April 25, 2022, 04:40:41 PM
I do not know why Martin Armstrong suggest that Macron or France could have such an effect to create an European Army in acting as the EU.

I see two reasons:
1 - He is an ignorant that thinks he's smart and assumes that everything is as he thinks they are;
2 - He wants people to think that an European Army is just around the corner.